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    difference between first gen b16a and b16a1 ?

    hey pplz
    i knoe d main difference between the first gen b16a is dat its a single cam vtec and the newer ones have double
    yet the power output is pretty much the same ?
    116 kw or 160 hp
    was wondering what are the main differences ?

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    hmm to my knowledge all B16a's are DOHC VTEC's with two camshafts.

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    theyre mainly the same, the earlier B16's to my knowledge have more webbing on the short block, making for better cooling properties over the 2nd gen B16.

    Apart from that, not sure what the other differences are, perhaps cam profiles and other slight changes, such as sensor locations etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay
    hey pplz
    i knoe d main difference between the first gen b16a is dat its a single cam vtec and the newer ones have double
    yet the power output is pretty much the same ?
    116 kw or 160 hp
    was wondering what are the main differences ?
    Hey Jay,

    What you are refering to as first gen B16a and B16A1 is one and thesame thing - B16A1 is the first 1.6l DOHC Vtec motor.

    the D16AY on the other hand is the 1.6 SOHC vtec motor.

    Generally:
    B16A1 comes out of Honda Civics SiRs and SiR CRXs from 1989-1991 (correct me if Im wrong)
    B16A2 came out in the Gen3 CRXs and later on in the VtiR civics (once again correct me if im wrong)
    d16Ay came in a Civic Vti in the EG series...

    hope this clears it up a little for ya..

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay
    hey pplz
    i knoe d main difference between the first gen b16a is dat its a single cam vtec and the newer ones have double
    yet the power output is pretty much the same ?
    116 kw or 160 hp
    was wondering what are the main differences ?
    bahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    B16a1 or B16a2 they both are DOHC

    B16a1's are found in the early model JMD SIR CRX&the EF9 SIR CIVIC

    B16a2's are found in the EG SIR EK SIR (VTIR) EK coupe VITR and the CRX del SOL

    Aus spec have 116KW (160hp) and the JDM spec have 122KW (170HP)

    the main diff for the power increase is the diff compression ratio
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    haha - isn't that what I just said??? :P hahaha!!! cheers Danny

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    The short blocks are different also

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    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 'B16A1'

    show me a block stamp with 'B16A1' on it please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 'B16A1'

    show me a block stamp with 'B16A1' on it please!
    i dont have a pic available - maybe someone else does...

    but i think generally whats refered to as b16a1 is a b16a simply because the B16A2 acually have the '2' stamped into the number.

    So even though there might not be a b16a1 stamp on the actual block you can easily refer to the generation as '1' because the '2nd' generation has the '2' - if that makes sense?

    unless someone has a pic to show...

    I personally refer to the engines as b16a1 and b16a2 as its much easier to distinguish the differenced - whereas if you say to somoen I have a b16a they will ask - cable or hydro.... saying 1 or 2 makes the difference quiet clear in my opinion...

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    LOL, yeah might make sense, but it is still inncorrect...
    B20VTEC - since 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by SINISTR
    I personally refer to the engines as b16a1 and b16a2 as its much easier to distinguish the differenced - whereas if you say to somoen I have a b16a they will ask - cable or hydro.... saying 1 or 2 makes the difference quiet clear in my opinion...
    that's what i though too
    Last edited by [[d a n n y]]; 15-11-2004 at 01:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

    B16a1 or B16a2 they both are DOHC

    B16a1's are found in the early model JMD SIR CRX&the EF9 SIR CIVIC
    Is that what u thought too , Danny ?

    lol.

    *back on topic*

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