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keep OEM lip spray back to factory silver yes
4-1 is good for hi end
4-2-1 mid to hi
im currently running (xforce) 4-2-1 would like a better quality set though
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i think im gonna go 4-2-1, i think you would loose torque with the 4-1. And man all the exhaust places reckon as long as the headers are made from good steel the difference in headers is just not worth the price differences.
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just remember ppl like hytec rmf toda etc put alot of money into r&d. i got 91kw atw with stock internals, cai, 2.25inch custom exhaust xforce 4-2-1's and a tuned crome ecu. im looking to do some cams and prob itb or just a larger throttle bodie with skunk2 intake mani.
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Originally Posted by blabla
just remember ppl like hytec rmf toda etc put alot of money into r&d. i got 91kw atw with stock internals, cai, 2.25inch custom exhaust xforce 4-2-1's and a tuned crome ecu. im looking to do some cams and prob itb or just a larger throttle bodie with skunk2 intake mani.
The difference between a expensive one like Spoon an say xforce one as said, comes down to R&D, the types of metal used, the flow factor, heat resistant... alot of places may say all exhaust system are the same, crap talkers, they jus wanna sell there junk to you, research is the key to a well flowing, and performing exhaust system,it can be the difference between 10-20hp..... How the headers are designed will effect ur overall power band than any cat back system, so choose the right one for the application
id opt to go for a slighty larger TB, way less hassle over ITB, an much cheaper
ITb on a stock motor is as useless as a bigger turbo on a stock motor, to make every bit of it count, u really needa rebuild the whole engine, top to bottom, which can get $$$$
Go 4-2-1 for a street car, the low end torque will still be there
and also, stick to no foggies, as every em1 has em1 lol
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Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
The difference between a expensive one like Spoon an say xforce one as said, comes down to R&D, the types of metal used, the flow factor, heat resistant... alot of places may say all exhaust system are the same, crap talkers, they jus wanna sell there junk to you, research is the key to a well flowing, and performing exhaust system,it can be the difference between 10-20hp..... How the headers are designed will effect ur overall power band than any cat back system, so choose the right one for the application
id opt to go for a slighty larger TB, way less hassle over ITB, an much cheaper
ITb on a stock motor is as useless as a bigger turbo on a stock motor, to make every bit of it count, u really needa rebuild the whole engine, top to bottom, which can get $$$$
Go 4-2-1 for a street car, the low end torque will still be there
and also, stick to no foggies, as every em1 has em1 lol
(xforce = bang for your buck) my extractor back system cost more then the headers lol.. I would love to change them to like better. I have herd that 5ziegen headers are on pare with the xforce headers.
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hey bro ur car is beautiful...
only paint ur lip to factory silver...
and please dont tint ur tail lights....
respect!
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Originally Posted by Shalz_Em1
This is my first thread ive ever posted and i was wondering if i could get suggestions to the following:
*whether to get fog lights
*light black tint on rear lights
*inovative engine mounts
*4-1 or 4-2-1 headers
*keep OEM lip black or spray back to factory silver
Don't get foglights unless it's foggy where you live. WOTAM.
Light tinting is illegal isn't it?
Innovative engine mounts - I don't see the point unless your OEM ones are cracked. WOTAM.
4-2-1 header for daily driving. If you're going to do 1/4 mile racing then get 4-1 otherwise it's not worth the low-end loss and clearance issues.
Lip I think is fine either way
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Originally Posted by dougie_504
Don't get foglights unless it's foggy where you live. WOTAM.
Light tinting is illegal isn't it?
Innovative engine mounts - I don't see the point unless your OEM ones are cracked. WOTAM.
4-2-1 header for daily driving. If you're going to do 1/4 mile racing then get 4-1 otherwise it's not worth the low-end loss and clearance issues.
Lip I think is fine either way
I want fog lights merely for the look, and my engines mounts are cracked hence why im considering the upgrade. I do plan to run the car down the track but its my daily driver in the end. And if i was to go with the fog lights i wll spray the lip silver as there would be too much black at the front.
Im goin for that look
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Originally Posted by Shalz_Em1
I want fog lights merely for the look, and my engines mounts are cracked hence why im considering the upgrade. I do plan to run the car down the track but its my daily driver in the end. And if i was to go with the fog lights i wll spray the lip silver as there would be too much black at the front.
Im goin for that look
Thumbs up. Good look to aspire to and if you have the money to spare then go for the foglights.
4-2-1 header will be fine for daily with occasional track.
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Originally Posted by Shalz_Em1
I want fog lights merely for the look, and my engines mounts are cracked hence why im considering the upgrade. I do plan to run the car down the track but its my daily driver in the end. And if i was to go with the fog lights i wll spray the lip silver as there would be too much black at the front.
Im goin for that look
I approve of this look
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What do you watn from this car in the end?
Will you be tracking it regularly? Do you appreciate super sound quality?
and no don't tint ur tails, and yes, spray your front lip. Car looks great as it is.
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