Cannon or Oval or Twinloop Muffler?

**adoumii** · 20-05-2011 03:36 PM

heyy everyone i know this topic has been talked about earlier but there hasnt been a clear answer or something even close.

what would be a better choice performance wise for low, mid and high end revs?
currently fitted is 2.5'' piping, h-f cat and 2 resonators.

im looking more for performance than overall sound as im sure its going to be loud enough either way

and if so what branding would be best?

**TheSaint** · 20-05-2011 04:35 PM

too many variables
depends on brand, type, design

a quality product of one variant is going to be better than a low quality of another
therefor you are only limited by funds

the best quality / peforming mufflers on the market are offered by mugen, spoon, buddyclub and fujitsubo
but they are rather expensive - and most of them you can only buy as a complete catback

the apexi WS2 should get a considerable mention - although it is quiet

if you are looking to cheap out on a replica or ebay unit - the twinloop option will give you the best of both canon and oval barrel

**mocchi** · 20-05-2011 04:36 PM

adoumii,

you should read this.

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/bl...ing-guide.html

This article is designed to be a last step in choosing which exhaust will fit your needs. If you have not read our previous exhaust articles please check these out in order to help you choose the right exhaust system.

Exhaust Basics
Advanced Exhaust Tech
Advanced Exhaust Tech II: Backpressure and Area
Exhaust design effects on noise

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Will an exhaust made for a different model Integra fit my car?
Please view the Common Topic: Exhaust size differences in the Generation 3 forum for information on this.

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Main Article:
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**mugen_ctr** · 21-05-2011 12:19 AM

For track work, straight through pipes, no cat, no resonators, maybe a high end muffler and mandrel bends, for ultimate flow and performance, but i do believe some tracks have noise limits

**BennyH** · 21-05-2011 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheSaint

too many variables
depends on brand, type, design

a quality product of one variant is going to be better than a low quality of another
therefor you are only limited by funds

the best quality / peforming mufflers on the market are offered by mugen, spoon, buddyclub and fujitsubo
but they are rather expensive - and most of them you can only buy as a complete catback

the apexi WS2 should get a considerable mention - although it is quiet

if you are looking to cheap out on a replica or ebay unit - the twinloop option will give you the best of both canon and oval barrel

Hey, don't mean to bombard your thread, but as you mentioned The Saint, WS2 is a tad quiet. Have you heard much about the Apexi N1 ?

**eren** · 21-05-2011 03:46 PM

Dont get a cannon Cause there loud and sound like its farting my experience i have 1 now im trying to get twinloop

**mugen_ctr** · 21-05-2011 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by eren

Dont get a cannon Cause there loud and sound like its farting my experience i have 1 now im trying to get twinloop

farting???? unless ur running a ebay one, or monza one, i think u are very wrong here.... the proper cannons like HKS, Apexi, Vision etc etc have a subtle tone, roar, drone to em, nothing like those cheap arse cannons that sound like shit house

If u ever seen the internals of one of those aftermarket JDM mufflers, u will see why, compare em to the crappy ones, an u will under stand why they all have a certain sound to em

Any muffler thats has a oval designed, is bound to be quite.... and the best one ive seen is the apexi ws2, as for apexi n1, its also a cannon designed, so its bound to be loud

It seems the honda ppl in general are against the cannons, i see no problems with it, infact i love my cannon, got a great roar to it, an sounds like a worked up engine, even though its a stockie hehehehhe

**TheSaint** · 21-05-2011 11:34 PM

i had a brand name canon on my subaru - gave me the shits so i changed to to an oval barrel

on the other hand a couple of my mates had different brand name canons on thier subis and they were quieter than the oval barrel i got lol

iv heard alot of different exhausts on a lot of different cars and i personally just dont like the way the canons sound on honda engines - duno what it is lol

**kimang** · 21-05-2011 11:38 PM

branded cannons have a more deep sound. my cousin had a HKS cannon n it was quiet n deep sounding.

atm i have a dc5r mugen twinloop on my 2.5 piping with res. looks stock but a bit loud when acc. idle is dead quiet tho..

**mugen_ctr** · 21-05-2011 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by kimang

branded cannons have a more deep sound. my cousin had a HKS cannon n it was quiet n deep sounding.

atm i have a dc5r mugen twinloop on my 2.5 piping with res. looks stock but a bit loud when acc. idle is dead quiet tho..

thats the thing though, my idle is dead quite as well, pays to get a good muffler, cannon or oval shaped, ive heard some oval shaped mufflers that sound much louder than mine on idle

**charliebrown** · 21-05-2011 11:55 PM

Why is it desirable to have quiet on idle? isnt it cool to have rumble lol

**mugen_ctr** · 22-05-2011 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by charliebrown

Why is it desirable to have quiet on idle? isnt it cool to have rumble lol

cops man LOL, when u clutch in, or sitting at a booze bus, the last thing u want is them the be standing around wondering where that rumble is coming from....

One of the baddest an loudest idle ive heard was on a R33 GTR, standing next to it, it literally shook ur body lol.....

And also ppl say non-turbo exhaust are loud, pffffttttt as if, turbo cars are so much more louder, clearly those ppl never experienced it before hand