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  1. #721
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    Quote Originally Posted by destrukshn View Post
    change the cat to a 200/100cell cat too.
    and get a tune.
    you'll get better fuel economy, more power through the whole rev range and more response.
    i got a low reading from the dyno day too.
    Hmm yeah dunno if I can justify hondata + tune haha...

    100cell is def on the way...

    Tbh I was actually amazed that it broke triple figures...

    Also Very curious to see what people think about how at the top of the curve it's still rising linearly till it hit redline... More power to be had if I raise the rev limit?

  2. #722
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    looks like you'll get more midrange, as it dips there.
    it would be a much nicer power curve.
    once you pay for it, you won't look back.
    no one ever does. lol
    you'll get better fuel economy.
    so eventually it'll pay it self, the standard ECU can only compensate so much.

  3. #723
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    Quote Originally Posted by destrukshn View Post
    you'll get better fuel economy.
    Depends on who's tuning it and what you ask for, both my tunes have reduced economy (not that I am worried about fuel economy). I'm fairly sure that's the cost of getting that bit of extra power from adding fuel and timing.

    Eeko, that looks like a pretty normal power output for a B16A with those mods to me. Good stuff.
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  4. #724
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super-DA9 View Post
    Depends on who's tuning it and what you ask for, both my tunes have reduced economy (not that I am worried about fuel economy). I'm fairly sure that's the cost of getting that bit of extra power from adding fuel and timing.

    Eeko, that looks like a pretty normal power output for a B16A with those mods to me. Good stuff.

    A good tuner will both maximise power while retaining fuel economy
    Kermit EGK20A
    Winton: 1:35.08
    Wakefield: 1:08.8

  5. #725
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super-DA9 View Post
    Depends on who's tuning it and what you ask for, both my tunes have reduced economy (not that I am worried about fuel economy). I'm fairly sure that's the cost of getting that bit of extra power from adding fuel and timing.

    Eeko, that looks like a pretty normal power output for a B16A with those mods to me. Good stuff.
    while cruising, you should get more fuel economy.
    but more power mid range and flat out.

  6. #726
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    Quote Originally Posted by eeko View Post
    Think I could actually get something worth it from tuning?
    Tune will definitely pull a bit of power out of it. Afr is quiet rich, which is to be expected with the oem map
    part time potato

  7. #727
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    Quote Originally Posted by eeko View Post

    Excuse the crap scaling... was done at a dyno day over the weekend....

    B16A2

    B18C2 Intake Cam
    ITR Intake Mani
    ITR Throttle Body
    ITR Fuel Rail
    Ebay CAI
    5zigen 4-2-1 Headers
    400 Cell Cat
    T1R 2.5" Catback
    J's 60RR

    Stock ECU

    Thoughts? Not sure what to make of it tbh...

    Strongly recommend you revert the IM back to the P30 from the B16A2. Will make better power up until 8,000 where the ITR one will be better until cut.

    And go a 100CEL cat.

    Easy/cheap power there.

  8. #728
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    is there any back to back tests on the IMs dougie

  9. #729
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    When you compare the length and diameter of the runner, along with plenum sizes of the P30 vs P73, the P73 is too big for a 1600cc

    All the P73 does is slow air speed = loss in power
    Kermit EGK20A
    Winton: 1:35.08
    Wakefield: 1:08.8

  10. #730
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    Here's a stock B16A2 for comparison purposes:



    Only utilizing oem honda mods:

    B18C Airbox & Intake Arm
    JDM ITR 4-1 Header, 2.5 JDM ITR Cat, ITR B-pipe, Stock EK4 muffler

    AFR tuned with APEXi VAFCII
    I SiR = Sport injection Racing

  11. #731


    B18c7
    Mugen Headers, 2.5" exhaust
    pod filter
    ID600 injectors
    Hondata

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