ek 00 sway bars.

[bennjamin]

The EK4 front LCA's are also beefier to compensate for the thicker swaybar which means you'll also need EK4 forks.

a point I overlooked / forgot about !

Another option is a white line front swaybar kit - which includes front mounting joints for a swaybar.
This suits eks without front swaybars

[senna]

Whiteline only sell a front swaybar for cars WITH a factory bar

http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segue...cle=10%2F95-99

[bennjamin]

Whiteline only sell a front swaybar for cars WITH a factory bar

http://www.whiteline.com.au/do_segue...cle=10%2F95-99

Yeah - but they also sell ( or did sell?) a mounting kit for cars without front swaybars :0)
Plz look it up for all of the non-FSB eks out there !

[senna]

They may have at one point, but i don't believe they are anymore.

You aren't getting mixed up with their rear bar are you? http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...number=BHR83XZ

I would love it if they did one for the front since my daily is a CXi

[bennjamin]

They may have at one point, but i don't believe they are anymore.

You aren't getting mixed up with their rear bar are you? http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...number=BHR83XZ

I would love it if they did one for the front since my daily is a CXi

Perhaps they no longer - but I installed 2 kits into cxi's around 2009/2010 - the kit literally was a U bolt with backing plate , and a sort of offset mounting plate which emulated the standard front mounting for a swaybar end links.

*EDIT* here is a "suspension techniques" branded variant -
anti sway bar adapter kit #55360

[senna]

OH yeah, i can see why they don't do it anymore...would've been horrible...hahaha

I can see it sliding back and forth bending the u-bolts once the bushes get a little bit of wear on them.

[dmad_dood]

Btw guys eibach also make a f / r kit 17mm rsb 26mm fsb and i THINK it comes with all mounting hardware and i assume you don't need any extras like lcas and what not does anyone have an experience with the eibach kits, or no anything about them. Yhey seem to be quite good.

Cheers

[bennjamin]

just to correct your post alittle - the eibach kit suits EG/EH/DC/EK/EM/EJ chassis (92-95 for Eg/EH , 96-00 for EK/EM/EJ and 93-00 for DC2/4) and is 26mm front and 17mm rear.

[mugen_ctr]

Just to add to this, Standard EK1/EJ8 all use a 22mm fsb, where as ek4/ek9 is 26mm, so if u go 22mm rear swaybar, i think its gonna give un easy handling if u decide to go 22mm fsb

IMO if it works out cheaper to get a swaybar thats already made for the car get it, and less hassle n parts to remove.....

Ive yet to decide on a bigger sway bar as im running 22mm fsb and 20mm white line rsb

AND remember white line is solid swaybars, so they are 50 percent rigid than the oem hollow bars so that also has to be factored in.

[dmad_dood]

Im going to try stick with oem stuff, but mainly at the end of the day, i want a car thats fun to drive i.e. sharp turn in, little body roll grippy and neutral and this is also on a budget.

And now can someone clear things up. I've been reading and everyone seems to go one way or another about sway bar effects. As an example ill use the rsb. Some people say that increasing size of the rear sway bar helps get rid of oversteer i.e. more grip at the back, this would mean that you tune the rear sway bar for the rear of the car where as some say it helps get rid of understeer i.e. more grip at the front, which would mean you tune the rear sway bar for the front of the car. WHICH ONE IS IT!!!

[mugen_ctr]

Im going to try stick with oem stuff, but mainly at the end of the day, i want a car thats fun to drive i.e. sharp turn in, little body roll grippy and neutral and this is also on a budget.

And now can someone clear things up. I've been reading and everyone seems to go one way or another about sway bar effects. As an example ill use the rsb. Some people say that increasing size of the rear sway bar helps get rid of oversteer i.e. more grip at the back, this would mean that you tune the rear sway bar for the rear of the car where as some say it helps get rid of understeer i.e. more grip at the front, which would mean you tune the rear sway bar for the front of the car. WHICH ONE IS IT!!!

Thicker rsb means more over steer, BUT! depends also how the front end of the car is setup... just because its a thicker rsb doesnt mean its gonna over steer

Dont just look into swaybars, but a overall package.. just like how ppl have coilovers... Its only one side of things.. in reality u need everything to make the most of it. Swaybars are only part of a bigger equation at the end of the day

But with our cars, ek 1996 - 00 Having a front 22mm swaybar and rear 22mm means more of a over steer nature, but u can always counter that with tuning or buying a set of coilovers to combat it... but prbs easier to just get the correct swaybar size for the coilover as they are cheaper than 1.5k coilover setup.

at the end of the day its down to how u drive and how u setup the car.. Some want over steer car some prefer neutral feel to the car

[bennjamin]

Just to add -

(on a road car / non race car) The most influence on a cars handling comes from upgrading F/R swaybars.

A car on standard height and shocks/springs with upgraded swaybars will be a much better ride and better handling than any coilovers