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Thanks for all the input guys 
 Originally Posted by BG-33P
Could you actually comment on your coilovers again in a few months or something to see how you're finding them?
Still, I'm not sure about what to get - budget is a very big factor. I suppose I could trade in all sense of comfort for a drop in height and a small increase in handling while we're at it. What kind of coilovers would I be looking at then?
And does anyone have any thoughts or opinion on Megans? They're a bit cheaper and they seem somewhat popular. Anyone have any experiences with them?
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yellow racing coil overs from wholesale suspension sir, 12 month warranty.
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 Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
Many in the states swear by that setup, an use it alot in autoX so it must be good lol
But OP remember the main difference from coilover vs spring/shock, is for the simple fact that coilovers use a linear spring rate, which is great on track, piss poor on dd car.... which might explain the bumpy ride but than again its also down to the damper settings, where as on all oem and aftermarket springs like teins, kings and eibachs u will find they are the same design, progressive spring rate, fantastic on dd, but also can be just as good as coilover on track.
Considering that comfort is of a priority and adjust-ability and height isnt of importance, best off spending the dough on quality gear than not so good coilovers 
Cheap coilovers use Linear, Expensive ones use single/dual digressive [Bilstein/QRS/etc] which give you all the handling you want without the harshness =)
Toda Racing AU | Shen * Speed Works | Jesse Streeter
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I got 6kg fronts and 4kg rear coilovers, think they costed me $900. Didn't want anything harsh, since our roads are shit
3 guys walk into a bar. The first guy told the D to get a B series.The second guy told the B to get a K series. The last guy told the K to fk off just get a V8 mate.
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6k/4k is alright for double wishbone and average shocks but try that setup in say an EP3/DC5 [Macpherson] and all hell breaks loose unless the shocks are top notch but even then the ride won't be as compliant =(
Toda Racing AU | Shen * Speed Works | Jesse Streeter
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macpherson struts that bad?
S P A M | W O R K S
hehe.
PHC
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Pedders shocks + spring combo, around $1k including install
Imo they're industry standard, so you can't go wrong
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 Originally Posted by curtis265
macpherson struts that bad?
Macpherson strut is pretty bad...
Its difficult to get much handling increase out of it without reverting to a 'race only' setup. However unlike double wishbone, the compliance isn't up to the standard of double wishbone... The car will skip off imperfections sometimes so bad that it won't compress/rebound [I found out in a nice way with my car's rear breaking out suddenly... Brown pants] =| The forces subjected on the driver/passengers is quite rough too =( I had to go to a very very mild setup [JIC FLT TAR2 7k/5k ---> Shocks and Springs 3.8/3k] and be happy with that increase in handling potential which was adequate when combined with PU bushes, slightly thicker swaybars and RE001s but nothing that would make you go "Oh my".
That's my experience though but seems to be the concensus amongst my old group...
When it comes to tuning, you can get away with harder setup in Double Wishbone unlike Macpherson which with even 1 step incorrect will go from ok to ouch that hurt my pelvis...
Last edited by DreadAngel; 05-08-2012 at 08:36 PM.
Toda Racing AU | Shen * Speed Works | Jesse Streeter
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Oh i see, how interesting. So that twitchyness is all to do with the camber control..?
so thankful i've got double wishbones lol
S P A M | W O R K S
hehe.
PHC
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That's a part of it, camber and roll center adjustment is limited at best with camber changing from positive - negative during suspension loading/movement in real 'basic' terms. But there is a lot to do with the inherit design differences which seem to give harsh feedback [both force and noise] from the road.
I can survive with harsh setups [My EG had 12k/8k and that was only a little harsh for me but otherwise still ok] but the JIC setup was quite painful on Aussie roads...
Toda Racing AU | Shen * Speed Works | Jesse Streeter
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cusco 1 or 2 is good for the street
tien ss is also good
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 Originally Posted by DreadAngel
Macpherson strut is pretty bad...
Its difficult to get much handling increase out of it without reverting to a 'race only' setup. However unlike double wishbone, the compliance isn't up to the standard of double wishbone... The car will skip off imperfections sometimes so bad that it won't compress/rebound [I found out in a nice way with my car's rear breaking out suddenly... Brown pants] =| The forces subjected on the driver/passengers is quite rough too =( I had to go to a very very mild setup [JIC FLT TAR2 7k/5k ---> Shocks and Springs 3.8/3k] and be happy with that increase in handling potential which was adequate when combined with PU bushes, slightly thicker swaybars and RE001s but nothing that would make you go "Oh my".
That's my experience though but seems to be the concensus amongst my old group...
When it comes to tuning, you can get away with harder setup in Double Wishbone unlike Macpherson which with even 1 step incorrect will go from ok to ouch that hurt my pelvis...
This is true. you have to build you suspension to be like a race car or it just will be a decent handling car, not a great handling car. The whole suspension setup is a compromise even when its a full on race setup as you have to put a band aid roll centre issues, yet need to have the CoG as low as possible, so stiff and low with an aggressive alignment is the way to go!
Considering my car is approx 900 kilos and I run 6/4k rates, the springs are pretty stiff.. crazy thing is i want to go stiffer! haha
It does pay to have a good set of coilovers though, I know of people with fortune auto's in their corollas with 10/8k springs and they say the ride is fairly compliant...
Also, on a hot version dvd i think there was a DC5R with 16/26k springs which is friggin mental !!!
Last edited by Rolla_Kid; 05-08-2012 at 11:17 PM.
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