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    going for an older motor than vehicle

    Hi All,
    Is there any problems with me swapping in an engine that is older than my vehicle chasis build date? RTA etc? (i heard in the past you need a newer motor, but i dont know if its true)

    thanks dan

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    Yes it is true. It is not legal to swap in an older engine. You won't be able to get an engineer's cert.
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    yes its very much illegal sux you owning a 2000model car hay haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng
    Yes it is true. It is not legal to swap in an older engine. You won't be able to get an engineer's cert.
    thanks for all you responses

    what happens if i dont need an engineer cert?


    cause i currently have doch vtec 1.6 and wanting to go doch vtec 1.8...
    for for the extra .2 i worked it out with the RTA formulae.. i dont need an engineer cert... i just need blue slip

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTi_b0i
    yes its very much illegal sux you owning a 2000model car hay haha
    damnit.... it doesnt make sense if i was to rebuild a 1989 b16a to new spec and use it and cant..! argh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitZ
    thanks for all you responses

    what happens if i dont need an engineer cert?


    cause i currently have doch vtec 1.6 and wanting to go doch vtec 1.8...
    for for the extra .2 i worked it out with the RTA formulae.. i dont need an engineer cert... i just need blue slip
    afaik i thought any kind of engine swap would require an engineer's cert cos they need to check it for safety issues, etc...

    wot rta formula u talking about?
    arrowz

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK9
    afaik i thought any kind of engine swap would require an engineer's cert cos they need to check it for safety issues, etc...

    wot rta formula u talking about?
    Nah its not..
    I called the RTA they said if its only a difference in capacity(there a forumulae - ill try dig it up somewhere) and all configuration are the same and from same manufacturer its ok...

    same goes for insurance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK9
    afaik i thought any kind of engine swap would require an engineer's cert cos they need to check it for safety issues, etc...

    wot rta formula u talking about?
    found it..
    you are allowed a 15% increase in capacity provided no structural mods needed


    Last edited by BlitZ; 09-06-2006 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitZ
    thanks for all you responses

    what happens if i dont need an engineer cert?


    cause i currently have doch vtec 1.6 and wanting to go doch vtec 1.8...
    for for the extra .2 i worked it out with the RTA formulae.. i dont need an engineer cert... i just need blue slip
    Extra .2 means you need cert and it is street legal. If you go above .2 you can't get a cert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng
    Extra .2 means you need cert and it is street legal. If you go above .2 you can't get a cert.
    nope..
    its considered a minor owner mod under the RTA rules..

    for road worthiness they go by TAR weight and not original capacity

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    ADRs and RTA (NSW) guidelines indicate you can as long as the engine will pass emmisions standards for the year of the vehicle.

    contact an engineer dude.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EK9
    afaik i thought any kind of engine swap would require an engineer's cert cos they need to check it for safety issues, etc...

    wot rta formula u talking about?
    i did an engine swap (b18a -> b16a) and didnt need an engineers certificate..
    only got a blue slip to change the engine number

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