Recent CU prices?

[HVF00T]

...The crazy thing is my local dealer said if i don't use Honda FEO (a cheap mineral oil) I will void my warranty & they wont stamp my log book. Something to consider.

You need to watch out for that. The standard factory warranty and factory extended warranty does not dictate the use of Honda FEO (i'm sure yfin will disagree with me), just the API grade and viscosity. You need to be careful with a dealer extended warranty though as they tend to have very stringent conditions; eg you can only service the car at the dealer you bought it from.

I suggest you (and everyone else reading this) read the conditions of your warranty and especially any extended dealer warranty conditions and come to your own conclusion. Don't just take the word of the dealer (or me or yfin) because obviously they want you to spend all your money with them.

If you don't have an extended warranty with that dealer, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.

[buddah51au]

I never said unqualified. I said you don't need a license.

A "qualified" person in this case is someone that knows how to remove and replace a sump plug, remove and replace an oil filter, fill an engine with oil and check the level. You don't need to be licensed to do this nor will it void your warranty.

I expect you and others in this forum to use a bit of common sense. If I change my oil, forget to tighten the sump plug properly and the engine seizes, of course I don't expect Honda to cover the repairs under warranty.

But if I change the oil using an API service SL or higher grade oil, fit an OEM Honda oil filter, tighten the sump plug to the correct torque and ensure the oil level is correct, and the engine seizes, I would expect Honda to repair under warranty because a licensed mechanic would have done exactly as I did when changing the oil.

You need to give others in this forum some credit and assume they have some common sense and basic intellect. If some people are not comfortable changing their own oil, then by all means go and pay someone to do it.

Knowing how rarely Honda have warranty issues with engines most people would never have to worry if they are unlicensed & done their own servicing. However if something did happen to go wrong I would hate to to be the one to test that comment.

Being self taught in any field does not make you qualified in that particular field. In saying that I know Basic Servicing on Modern Cars is very straight forward, but I believe any Manufacturer would have a right to refuse a warranty repair where an unlicensed or non trades person has done their own servicing.

[tony1234]

The crazy thing is my local dealer said if i don't use Honda FEO (a cheap mineral oil) I will void my warranty & they wont stamp my log book. Something to consider.
Your dealer is telling you crap.I know for a fact of 3 Honda service centres in Sydney that use Castrol Magnatec.

[buddah51au]

Your dealer is telling you crap.I know for a fact of 3 Honda service centres in Sydney that use Castrol Magnatec.

I know it's crap Tony. I guess the Dealer knows the only way they can make money out of me is through buying genuine parts

[tony1234]

I know it's crap Tony. I guess the Dealer knows the only way they can make money out of me is through buying genuine parts
I wouldn't be confident in getting a dealer like that to service my car and look after me.

[denot]

buddah, that similar to what day said after I complained when they make swirl marks all over my car from the "courtesy car wash" on the 1st service... I told them I will not come to service my car on this dealership anymore becoz they treat me badly, and they said "but it will void your warranty". Bleh... BS!!!!

[primetimex]

I told them I will not come to service my car on this dealership anymore becoz they treat me badly, and they said "but it will void your warranty". Bleh... BS!!!!

Hahhaah yeh just go to another dealer Denot to service your car! my Black CU2 is notorious for getting marks and it's driving me insane trying to keep it nice and shiny!

Got my Luxury Navi Black for $54.7k and sold my other car privately. In the $54.7k price I got nearly $2k worth of accessories (accord euro mats, front aero bumper, sports grille, blue accent lighting, ipod connector, luggage tray mat, and door handle films!)

Still have not done any tinting as I don't think I'll need it (coming to Autumn here) - and car's too new to let ppl open it up and stuff for tinting.

[Type R Positive]

You need to watch out for that. The standard factory warranty and factory extended warranty does not dictate the use of Honda FEO (i'm sure yfin will disagree with me), just the API grade and viscosity. You need to be careful with a dealer extended warranty though as they tend to have very stringent conditions; eg you can only service the car at the dealer you bought it from.

I suggest you (and everyone else reading this) read the conditions of your warranty and especially any extended dealer warranty conditions and come to your own conclusion. Don't just take the word of the dealer (or me or yfin) because obviously they want you to spend all your money with them.

If you don't have an extended warranty with that dealer, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.
I went one step further and called Honda Australia. ;)
I used to live in Port Hedland, no Honda dealers up that way. You can get it serviced by who ever you want, as long as they are registered and you use genuine parts.

You need to have a licensed mechanic stamp for warranty.

[buddah51au]

I wouldn't be confident in getting a dealer like that to service my car and look after me.

Tony, after spending years in dealerships I know for a fact most servicing goes to apprentices. Personally I have no confidence in ANY DEALER when it comes to servicing. I doubt that policy has changed over the years.

Add to that most Dealerships in this town employ Filipino mechanics on short term contracts......what is their knowledge base.....if any?

[primetimex]

Tony, after spending years in dealerships I know for a fact most servicing goes to apprentices. Personally I have no confidence in ANY DEALER when it comes to servicing. I doubt that policy has changed over the years.

Add to that most Dealerships in this town employ Filipino mechanics on short term contracts......what is their knowledge base.....if any?

You're now making me worry about servicing my car at the dealership buddah, if this is the case then what are the senior mechanics doing? I'd rather not service my brand new 50k+ Euro at the hands of apprentices thanks and is it common practice?

[buddah51au]

You're now making me worry about servicing my car at the dealership buddah, if this is the case then what are the senior mechanics doing? I'd rather not service my brand new 50k+ Euro at the hands of apprentices thanks and is it common practice?

In my time in dealerships the senior mechanics did the more technical repairs, eg - engines, g/boxes, clutches, suspension & brake hydraulics & so on.

But i must admit i haven't worked since substaining a severe injury in 1991 & cars have become a lot more reliable since that time. In saying that though I have kept myself fairly well up to date with current technology.

As for Filipino mechanics working in dealerships, I don't know how widespread that is in other areas. After several trips to the Philippines I have seen how they work in their own country & they have no formal apprenticeships there.

[buddah51au]

Basically, the service you get comes down to the individual doing the job, not the dealership or private repair shop. After running several workshops in my time and taking flak for other peoples stuff ups, I got out of that area altogether & finished up working for Lubemobile in Sydney. but once again they had a few workers in those days i would not have recommended although most of the mechanics were well qualified.

[primetimex]

Thanks for your replies buddah. I have been servicing my Honda's through the dealers for the past 20 years odd and have suspected that at time a less than well qualified mechanic is working on the car.

I don't know whether it is a good idea to make it a point for the Service Advisors that no apprentices to work on the car because after all we are paying our hard earned money on it.

[buddah51au]

I personally think that to make such a comment would be a waste of breath, once the car is in the workshop you have no control over who works on the car.

These comments today have got me thinking on what would be the best advice I could post, so here is what i would do personally if I was paying for others to service my car considering the $$$$$$ Dealers charge. For intermediate servicing i would probably use Ultra Tune. Then maybe consider using the dealer for major services only (every 40,000km), but if you were happy with the service you were getting stick with Ultra tune permanently.

The other thing many are not aware of is if you read the fine print in your service manual it recommends oil changes every 5,000km under severe conditions. Severe conditions for engines is stop start city driving and short trips. And don't forget your Auto Trans - service (change oil) once a year or every 20,000km, whichever comes first. Note that when you change Auto Trans oil you can only drain around 33% of the oil.

[primetimex]

Thanks for your tips buddah, much appreciated. I'll keep a reminder on that Oil Change under severe conditions. I've done around 600km's in about 2 weeks since I picked up my Euro'09 so I'll hit 1000km's very soon.

[SPQR]

....I don't know whether it is a good idea to make it a point for the Service Advisors that no apprentices to work on the car because after all we are paying our hard earned money on it.

I would vote for 'not a good idea'. Apprentices have to be trained otherwise there would not be any experienced mechanics in future. I would only suggest that an experienced mechanic should be looking over their shoulder. And really, changing oil is not rocket science.

[denot]

anyway...... whats the "Recent CU prices"? :p

[primetimex]

anyway...... whats the "Recent CU prices"? :p

See my post at #257 for Recent CU Prices. Let me know what you think of the deal that I've got.

[rodericb]

Is it manual or Auto? According to Redbook the 2009 Auto Navi is $46,990 + on road costs. You paid $7710 in on road costs.... how much is stamp duty and rego in WA?

[denot]

2 weeks ago my friend got 09 Lux Manual with tint and mat for $42k drive away, Still got the extras (5 yrs warranty, free rego n stamp duty)

[primetimex]

Is it manual or Auto? According to Redbook the 2009 Auto Navi is $46,990 + on road costs. You paid $7710 in on road costs.... how much is stamp duty and rego in WA?

It is Auto - and in WA here the base price for 2009 Auto Navi is $48,980.00 (which means dealer delivery cost of $1,990 is included) and WA on road costs total $2,842.85 plus rego 6 months $306.15 = total $52,129.00 driveaway.

Accessories total $4123 and I paid $54,794 in the end which works out to be a saving of around $1458 all inclusive.

Accs: Floor Mat, Boot Liner Tray, Door Handle Protector, Accent Lighting, Door Sill Garnish Set, Speaker Ring Garnish Set, Sports Pedals, Ipod Adaptor Cable, Sports Grille and Front Aero Bumper

[albii]

It is Auto - and in WA here the base price for 2009 Auto Navi is $48,980.00 (which means dealer delivery cost of $1,990 is included) and WA on road costs total $2,842.85 plus rego 6 months $306.15 = total $52,129.00 driveaway.

Accessories total $4123 and I paid $54,794 in the end which works out to be a saving of around $1458 all inclusive.

Accs: Floor Mat, Boot Liner Tray, Door Handle Protector, Accent Lighting, Door Sill Garnish Set, Speaker Ring Garnish Set, Sports Pedals, Ipod Adaptor Cable, Sports Grille and Front Aero Bumper

DAMN......you got smoked.....that's alot of money for a euro.

[SPQR]

Yeah. People in remote from east-coast universe-central; in far-flung colonies, always get ripped-off!

[primetimex]

Yeah. People in remote from east-coast universe-central; in far-flung colonies, always get ripped-off!

Well, I have absolutely no idea why here in far West we always get ripped! :eek:

[tony1234]

DAMN......you got smoked.....that's alot of money for a euro.
Yeah,i was thinking the same thing.

[albii]

Would have been cheaper to fly to Melb ,Syd or Bris 1st class and get a full police escort back.

[primetimex]

Anyone else here from Perth WA want to post their CU2 prices for comparison???

[buddah51au]

To the best of my knowledge all Honda's sold in WA are transported from the east coast, so transport costs are passed on to the buyer.

[rodericb]

To the best of my knowledge all Honda's sold in WA are transported from the east coast, so transport costs are passed on to the buyer.
Not really and it's just another gouge by the dealer. I guess some dealers will try it on and some buyers will accept it.

[denot]

Is it true that theres only 4-5 dealers in Perth? That according to a friend who live in Perth... That makes sense why the price is higher there...

[SPQR]

There's only one in Darwin. In fact, only one of each (but not all) brands. And most dealers sell more than one brand but they are the only dealer for that brand. The market is sewn-up here. No competition if you want a particular brand and if you're prepared to buy a Volkswagen instead of a Honda, then just turn around the other way to talk to the Volkswagen sales-rep! No need to leave the Honda dealership!

[primetimex]

Is it true that theres only 4-5 dealers in Perth? That according to a friend who live in Perth... That makes sense why the price is higher there...

Correct we have only 3 major Honda dealers here in Perth!
Everyone of them has the same price list for the Honda so it's up to each buyer's negotiation skills to max up discounts during a the buying process.

[albii]

should have flown elsewhere..would have saved a truckload.

[SPQR]

should have flown elsewhere..would have saved a truckload.

And that could be a problem too: Airfares from Perth-to-East coast > East coast-to-Perth. And after you buy the car, you can pay up to $1,500 in freight to get it to Perth as most trucks coming to Perth are full but return part-empty.

[denot]

And that could be a problem too: Airfares from Perth-to-East coast > East coast-to-Perth. And after you buy the car, you can pay up to $1,500 in freight to get it to Perth as most trucks coming to Perth are full but return part-empty.

also the time spend on the trip etc (if you dont have anything else to do in east coast after purchasing the car)