Recent CU prices?

[MKI4EVA]

Heya...........wondering if anyone has bought a CU in the last couple of weeks since the car market started to cut prices to move stock?

imported cars are so screwed.........no room on margin side and cost side just increased by heaps..........

[Type R Positive]

Aussie dollar dieing in the ass doesn't help. I can't see them dropping the price.

[nesterjester]

hey MKI4EVA
i bought my black euro standard cu2 last week, and there wasn't much give on price.
Southside Honda in Brisbane was really busy when I was there, so busy that I had to book a time to come in.
Since I was there, 3 people had bought Jazz's and two others bought the new Accord Euro.
And that's in the same WEEK!
It must be used cars that are feeling the crunch...

Tried other dealers, they are just as busy.
So as far as I'm concerned the car market hasn't really budged in regards to Honda's in brissie.
Dunno about Sydney, but I only managed to shave a couple of grand of the final price.
Which was decent.

As Type R Positive said the Aussie dollar is giving us less bang for our buck, and so all I can say is if you like it, and you have enough money, buy it. Sure look around, and get some prices, but I can only see a few hundred or a grand being cut of the final price over the next 12 months. If your lucky you might persuade them to throw in some floor mats, boot liner, 12 month rego, and a full tank of petrol...
At least its a start right?

Things look like they have sorted peaked at the moment. Thats my opinion.

[Type R Positive]

If your lucky you might persuade them to throw in some floor mats, boot liner, 12 month rego, and a full tank of petrol... That's what I did. I think I got my 6mt base for $35k drive away too?

[MKI4EVA]

interesting.........looks like theres no diff buying early then..........koolies......was just curious.

[bigdongers]

they are lucky that the CU2 is a new model. Hondas generally don't discount much anyway.

I just bought a Turbo Jetta and got $9000 off the rrp drive away price. Awesome deal!

[Type R Positive]

Got the car serviced yesterday, Honda is doing the '08 run out sale thingy, but didn't ask what price for the CU2. Honda website says nothing....

[nesterjester]

oh yea was that your 1000km service?

Gonna get mine next sat.

[Type R Positive]

nah, 10,000. I had my car for like nearly 6 months now.....

[nesterjester]

may i ask how much was your service if you dont mind.... ?

[Type R Positive]

$160. Ridiculous for just an oil change......

[aaronng]

$160. Ridiculous for just an oil change......

They usually charge 240 in sydney for 10,000km

[Type R Positive]

They usually charge 240 in sydney for 10,000kmWow! 4 litres of oil and a filter......

[Sensei]

Anyone else managed to get a good deal on the CU2? I'd like to see what others are paying to get a good idea of where to start bargaining at.

[SteveH]

A Honda dealer in Melbourne quoted me 'less than $40,000- on the road' for a new CU2 Luxury manual over the phone yesterday. Only problem was that it was only a red or white model as that was what they had in stock.

[tritty]

A Honda dealer in Melbourne quoted me 'less than $40,000- on the road' for a new CU2 Luxury manual over the phone yesterday. Only problem was that it was only a red or white model as that was what they had in stock.

Go Milano Red!! Best colour!!!!!!

[carmen]

Just saw the new price list for CU2 Euros, they increase in price by $2k on 6 Jan 09 onwards accross the whole range. Wonder if this means bigger discounts?

[nesterjester]

Just saw the new price list for CU2 Euros, they increase in price by $2k on 6 Jan 09 onwards accross the whole range. Wonder if this means bigger discounts?

or smaller discounts!?

[Sensei]

A Honda dealer in Melbourne quoted me 'less than $40,000- on the road' for a new CU2 Luxury manual over the phone yesterday. Only problem was that it was only a red or white model as that was what they had in stock.

Thats a really good deal, I'm after a a standard 6spd and can't find anyone willing to go under $34,000 in SYD :(

[buddah51au]

Just got a CU2 standard Auto for $37,400 drive away. Full tank of fuel and floor mats was all i could get them to throw in, tried for window tint as well but no luck. I also believe i got top $$$$ on trade.

[Type R Positive]

Thats a really good deal, I'm after a a standard 6spd and can't find anyone willing to go under $34,000 in SYD :(
Mine was $36k with mats, boot liner, 12 month rego.

$34k is bloody cheap. ;)

[yfin]

This is weird - you guys are paying more than what many paid for the CL9 when it was first released. And the CU2 is cheaper with its $32,990 entry + ORC! Sounds like dealers are trying to protect margins at all cost.

[Atjo]

I paid $40276 drive away when i bought my CL9 lux manual back in 04 and the retail price was $40800. You just need to speak to the manager straight away :)

[UNLS1]

lol if the cars are going up in price i would say discounts would remain the same, only 2k more than now.

[ZYL11A]

I paid $43,500 for my 05 lux auto which included:
- paint protection
-enviro shield
- underbody sound deadning
- mats
- boot tray liner
- boot lip matt
- aftermarket navman supplied and fitted by honda with a custom cradle and second cigarette lighter output installed behind the centre console
- all on road costs paid as well
I think I got a pretty good deal

[Sensei]

Mine was $36k with mats, boot liner, 12 month rego.

$34k is bloody cheap. ;)

Update:
I got quoted $34,500 out the door for a Standard Euro Auto....starting to look better.

[devilians]

I paid $43,000 for my 07 Jan(1st shipment for black on black) lux auto which included:
- paint protection
-enviro shield
- underbody sound deadning
- mats
- boot tray liner
- boot lip matt
- tints
- all on road costs
- 5 years wannrenty
- 5 roadside assistant
- leather & vinal protection
- Honda sports pedals
- Full Tank of petrol
- and they deliveried to my house on truck with a bottle of champeng

[Crapdaz]

I paid $43,000 for my 07 Jan(1st shipment for black on black) lux auto which included:
- paint protection
-enviro shield
- underbody sound deadning
- mats
- boot tray liner
- boot lip matt
- tints
- all on road costs
- 5 years wannrenty
- 5 roadside assistant
- leather & vinal protection
- Honda sports pedals
- Full Tank of petrol
- and they deliveried to my house on truck with a bottle of champeng

rofl damn!
good catch!

[Type R Positive]

but alas, not a CU2....

[Mike Star]

Unfortunately while it looks good the resale is rubbish on Milano Red. Dealers pay really low for the Milano Red. If you want to sell later you have to go private and hope for a buyer who wants the color specifically.


Go Milano Red!! Best colour!!!!!!

[Type R Positive]

Unfortunately while it looks good the resale is rubbish on Milano Red. Dealers pay really low for the Milano Red. If you want to sell later you have to go private and hope for a buyer who wants the color specifically.
I don't see too many MR around. Best resale would have to be silver wouldn't it?

[El Diablo]

I paid $40500 for CL9 Lux AUTO NAVI Euro, tinted windows, Bluetooth Phone, Matts, Boot liner, Paint protector all included.

Build date of the car is MY08. January 08. Bougth it in May, great car. CU2 was coming out but i figured this was as good a dela as i was going to get anywhere for a car of this quality :)

[SpeedBird]

Just saw the new price list for CU2 Euros, they increase in price by $2k on 6 Jan 09 onwards accross the whole range. Wonder if this means bigger discounts?

Well look at it this way, From 1st Jan 2010 there is a Import Car Tariff REDUCTION from the current 10% down to 5% duty.

So wait until next year and the Deals will just be a little bit better than now. What do you guys think?

[tony1234]

Well look at it this way, From 1st Jan 2010 there is a Import Car Tariff REDUCTION from the current 10% down to 5% duty.

So wait until next year and the Deals will just be a little bit better than now. What do you guys think?
Hi Phillip how are you?:wave:.The dealers don't seem to pass on tariff reductions,they usually add a few more options to the car and keep the price the same.

[SPQR]

I don't see too many MR around. Best resale would have to be silver wouldn't it?

I think you're right!



Hi Phillip how are you?:wave:.The dealers don't seem to pass on tariff reductions,they usually add a few more options to the car and keep the price the same.

I think you're right!

[buddah51au]

I don't see too many MR around. Best resale would have to be silver wouldn't it?

Expeience tells me silver & white have the best resale values, but in saying that, condition also plays a large part.

[SPQR]

IMO, the CU2 Buran Silver is a much nicer silver than the CL9 Alabaster Silver but the CL9 Arctic Blue is nicer than the CU2 Cobalt Blue.

[Bobjones]

Well I got my rattling CU2 Auto Lux, with mats, bootliner, bluetooth, 5 year warranty etc, in silver, on road, $43,700...in August with a bonus free rattle in the engine, then the parcel shelf due to a weld going, then a rattle in the speaker, which they fixed, but left a screw out and loose under the passenger side window control, that I fixed myself rather than get the Honda muppets to waste more of my time...anyone want to buy my car??

[SPQR]

You make it sound like it's only worth $15K now. It's taken a long time for the CU2 to come on sale in Japan. As I've said before, the rest of the world is Honda's guinea pig. Once sorted, they started selling in Japan where any defects would have required Honda bosses to commit Harikiri.

[arthhtra]

33.2K Drive away black manual base model 08 euro. northside brissy. with mats and peds and nothing else

[Type R Positive]

33.2K Drive away black manual base model 08 euro. northside brissy. with mats and peds and nothing else
That be a great price mate! :)

[Bobjones]

You make it sound like it's only worth $15K now. It's taken a long time for the CU2 to come on sale in Japan. As I've said before, the rest of the world is Honda's guinea pig. Once sorted, they started selling in Japan where any defects would have required Honda bosses to commit Harikiri.

Well the rattle is in the parcel shelf again, so back to Honda for the 4th time in 4 months...so yes the time it takes to take it to Honda at a business cost point of view makes this a very expensive POS.

Oh and also the rattle in the passenger front door, could not be "found" by my local Honda dealer, but alas, I removed the power window controls after locating the approx source of the problem, and low and behold a screw was just sitting there, obviously NOT screwed in, seems the morons, or as they like to be called "technicians" left this off after checking the passnger side speaker...

In all my years of owning cars, this car is a bigger POS than my 1985 VK commodore that was put together by monkeys and not machines. To say that the new CU2 that I own is worth $15K is probably close to how much you would expect to pay for a car with this many issues, but alas, Honda has rested on its laurels for a while and now its coming to fruition, what happened to if we don't race crap all through indy, and now they are out of F1...its all bullshit, the whole organisation and the products it produces are a joke, and I will endevour to ensure that ALL potential customers become aware of this!!

[buddah51au]

Well the rattle is in the parcel shelf again, so back to Honda for the 4th time in 4 months...so yes the time it takes to take it to Honda at a business cost point of view makes this a very expensive POS.

Oh and also the rattle in the passenger front door, could not be "found" by my local Honda dealer, but alas, I removed the power window controls after locating the approx source of the problem, and low and behold a screw was just sitting there, obviously NOT screwed in, seems the morons, or as they like to be called "technicians" left this off after checking the passnger side speaker...

In all my years of owning cars, this car is a bigger POS than my 1985 VK commodore that was put together by monkeys and not machines. To say that the new CU2 that I own is worth $15K is probably close to how much you would expect to pay for a car with this many issues, but alas, Honda has rested on its laurels for a while and now its coming to fruition, what happened to if we don't race crap all through indy, and now they are out of F1...its all bullshit, the whole organisation and the products it produces are a joke, and I will endevour to ensure that ALL potential customers become aware of this!!

I find your posts are becoming more humorous by the day, trying to compare a VK dunnydore with a CU2......get real.

OH.....and Honda withdrawing from F! has absolutely nothing to do with the world financial crisis, or for that matter talk of F1 using a controlled (1 make)
engine in the near future. Heaven forbid even Ferrari is talking about withdrawing from F1.

I wonder what your reaction would be if you had a major problem.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101747

[devilians]

I find your posts are becoming more humorous by the day, trying to compare a VK dunnydore with a CU2......get real.

OH.....and Honda withdrawing from F! has absolutely nothing to do with the world financial crisis, or for that matter talk of F1 using a controlled (1 make)
engine in the near future. Heaven forbid even Ferrari is talking about withdrawing from F1.

I wonder what your reaction would be if you had a major problem.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101747

You might want to check that again

"We had no choice in the current financial conditions."
HONDA CEO Takeo Fukui said it in press realse

Honday Spend over $300M in 2008

[buddah51au]

You might want to check that again

"We had no choice in the current financial conditions."
HONDA CEO Takeo Fukui said it in press realse

Honday Spend over $300M in 2008


That was my point, Honda withdrawing from F1 has to do with the world financial crisis and nothing else.

[steve88]

OH.....and Honda withdrawing from F! has absolutely nothing to do with the world financial crisis,

That was my point, Honda withdrawing from F1 has to do with the world financial crisis and nothing else.

D:

5 chars

[Type R Positive]

Sarcasm....... I picked it up.

[buddah51au]

Sarcasm....... I picked it up.

I probably shouldn't of posted, but couldn't help myself.....lol

[Bobjones]

I find your posts are becoming more humorous by the day, trying to compare a VK dunnydore with a CU2......get real.

OH.....and Honda withdrawing from F! has absolutely nothing to do with the world financial crisis, or for that matter talk of F1 using a controlled (1 make)
engine in the near future. Heaven forbid even Ferrari is talking about withdrawing from F1.

I wonder what your reaction would be if you had a major problem.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101747

Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.

As it stands my 1985 Group A SS currently has no rattles, has never had a rattle and has never had an engine problem, and this from a car that is now 23 years old, so yes it is a GOOD comparison, why, well I will spell it out for you seeing as it appears you need it...

The Euro will be back on Honda 4 times in 4 months, I am very reluctant to see how many more problem occur in the next 4 years let alone the POS even lasting 23 years...

Yes I agree horses for courses, but I was of the belief that Honda had a good repuation for build quility and also being at the forefront of small capacity engine technology including reliability. This is now somewhat quesitonable. I will also follow you to your post in other threads and answer them in more detail, but alas, if this is not a major problem then what is, does the car have to have the engine cease with my wife driving it before some intellectual pimy such as yourself will call it a major problem...please, go back under your rock and stay there.

[The X Man]

The Euro will be back on Honda 4 times in 4 months

Is that all? Mine went back seven times in less then 3 months



I am very reluctant to see how many more problem occur in the next 4 years let alone the POS even lasting 23 years

Me too and i am already seriously considering getting rid of it. There is no way i would classify my Honda as a "quality" car.

Subaru here i come.....

[buddah51au]

[QUOTE=Bobjones;2058187]Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.

As it stands my 1985 Group A SS currently has no rattles, has never had a rattle and has never had an engine problem, and this from a car that is now 23 years old, so yes it is a GOOD comparison, why, well I will spell it out for you seeing as it appears you need it...

The Euro will be back on Honda 4 times in 4 months, I am very reluctant to see how many more problem occur in the next 4 years let alone the POS even lasting 23 years...

Yes I agree horses for courses, but I was of the belief that Honda had a good repuation for build quility and also being at the forefront of small capacity engine technology including reliability. This is now somewhat quesitonable. I will also follow you to your post in other threads and answer them in more detail, but alas, if this is not a major problem then what is, does the car have to have the engine cease with my wife driving it before some intellectual pimy such as yourself will call it a major problem...please, go back under your rock and stay there.[/QUOT

Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.
I can't help it if many didn't read this the way it was intended....but Type R did...... it was an off the cuff sarcastic remark and i am surprised more didn't pick it up.

The bottom line Bob is we are buying budget cars and expect them to be faultless. It doesn't matter if we buy a budget Kia Rio or spend several hundred thousand dollars on an exotic, all cars have faults and they always will.....I would love an F430 Ferrari as i am sure many would, but there have been several cases of these cars catching fire while being driven......yet i would still buy 1 if I had the $$$$.

There is an old saying that no one should buy the first of a new model as it takes time to iron out any bugs, but we still do. Manufacturers give warranty for a reason.....that being to fix any problems that may occur. Unfortunately in our case we have imported cars, therefore a fix has to be approved by the parent company and this takes time (Honda Australia has to wait for an answer from Honda in Japan). Your complaint has been registered with Honda Australia who have apparently received several complaints, yet for the time being their hands are tied. Once they receive a fix (however long it takes) you will be notified.

If this turns out to be a timing chain rattle as i suspect, it is something that has effected a very small percentage of "K Series" engines throughout the Honda range & there are many variations of this Engine. The Cylinder Head on the K24Z3 Engine fitted to the new CU2 Euro is a completely new design, so any minor problems with it will filter back to Honda Japan who will find a remedy, It is not a major problem that will effect engine life.

As for body rattles, they are not generally a warrantable item, however dealers generally try to rectify them as goodwill. Unfortunately these repairs are generally given to apprentices to try and sort out which is rarely successful. I have no idea if you had your windows tinted, but if you did consider that door trims, speakers, and rear parcel shelf are removed for the tinting to be done. They are rarely reassembled to factory standard as often retaining clips are broken, screws left loose or not replaced etc. 1 reason I would never have windows tinted.

When I buy a car the important things i kook for are build quality, reliability, economy & resale value. For the price there is very little on the market that comes close to Honda & you can definitely discount falcadores along with many other makes.

Let me tell you about a crazy old man in my family who owned a Toyota Prado in concourse condition. He wanted to downsize due to fuel costs even though he only did 5000k a year. I told him he was crazy to think about it, but if he wanted a sub $40K car he could not go past a Euro. So he got 1, only to trade it again after 1400km because it was too small. What did he buy? A 66K Subaru Tribeca. 600km later he lost the engine, as it turned out the crown of number 4 piston separated from the little end. That is what I consider a problem and he is now into his 4th week without a car.

I am the proud owner of a CU2 Euro and regardless of what you might say i don't believe i could buy a better car for the money. It is the 4th Honda i have owned - the previous 3 have done over 1 million trouble free km. Oh by the way i do not work for Honda.

[godiva]

It is not often i visit this forum these days, but read several postings today. I know nothing at all about the new Accord Euro. I just wanted to give my thoughts on Buddah's Postings. Several years ago i knew him personally when he modified my 93 Prelude SI. 1 thing i do know is that he was well known in Sydney for Honda servicing and performance Modifications.

Hey Buddah, I thought you had a current model Civic, how come you got rid of it so soon? Looks like you have ANOTHER Accord eh. PM me your email pls

[Type R Positive]

Buy a current model Holden Bob, and then see how good the Honda is.
They don't make em like they used too..........

[tony1234]

I'm with Buddah on this one.I too believe it's a timing chain and or tensioner issue.

[Type R Positive]

But seems weird that it is only with the auto?
Mines been nothing but awesome, just like my CL9 used to be.

[buddah51au]

Buy a current model Holden Bob, and then see how good the Honda is.
They don't make em like they used too..........

Type R.....that would be like comparing Apples (Euro) with Cow Dung (Dunnydore), but then again probably more suited to Mr Jones

[buddah51au]

It is not often i visit this forum these days, but read several postings today. I know nothing at all about the new Accord Euro. I just wanted to give my thoughts on Buddah's Postings. Several years ago i knew him personally when he modified my 93 Prelude SI. 1 thing i do know is that he was well known in Sydney for Honda servicing and performance Modifications.

Hey Buddah, I thought you had a current model Civic, how come you got rid of it so soon? Looks like you have ANOTHER Accord eh. PM me your email pls

Hey Godiva, Long time no hear. I did Have a FD civic for a few years. Unfortunately i Parked it in the wrong place and it became filling for a Commodore Sandwich.....some stupid female reversed into it after lighting up her rear tyres in reverse. I was worried about transmission damage after being pushed backwards while in park so decided to get another Accord. PM sent

[m0nty ITR]

they are lucky that the CU2 is a new model. Hondas generally don't discount much anyway.

I just bought a Turbo Jetta and got $9000 off the rrp drive away price. Awesome deal!

Perhaps you neglected to mention that you got Corporate Plus and the additional factory support on fleet purchases. Let's not lead people to believe that you get that off retail shall we?

[Type R Positive]

Perhaps you neglected to mention that you got Corporate Plus and the additional factory support on fleet purchases. Let's not lead people to believe that you get that off retail shall we?
But what he says is true....

Honda don't discount. I get fleet discounts and stuff through work, but get stuff all for Honda.

It is nearly embarrasing the discount I got off my Toyota Prado VX TD, like $15k+ :)

BTW, anyone can go through a car broker and get fleet discount. ;)

[m0nty ITR]

BTW, anyone can go through a car broker and get fleet discount. ;)

No they can't. Brokers are middle men that tell you they have buying power. They charge both the buyer and the seller and EVERY SINGLE TIME you can buy it cheaper dealing direct with the dealer. Brokers do NOT get fleet discounts. The buyer does. Most manufacturers offer corporate business because it encourages incremental sales through word of mouth. They do require some form of doucment that states employment.

[Type R Positive]

No they can't. Brokers are middle men that tell you they have buying power. They charge both the buyer and the seller and EVERY SINGLE TIME you can buy it cheaper dealing direct with the dealer. Brokers do NOT get fleet discounts. The buyer does. Most manufacturers offer corporate business because it encourages incremental sales through word of mouth. They do require some form of doucment that states employment.
try again....

[m0nty ITR]

try again....

Thanks in advance for elaborating. :thumbsup:

[Type R Positive]

Thanks in advance for elaborating. :thumbsup:
OK, I will elaborate.
Anyone can buy a car through a car broker and get fleet discount pricing. ;)

[m0nty ITR]

OK, I will elaborate.
Anyone can buy a car through a car broker and get fleet discount pricing. ;)

No they can't. I hope my 6 years industry experience has more weight than your unsubstantiated heresay.

[ok2]

I would agree with m0nty ITR with respect to car brokers in my limited experience.

When buying my Euro (was 3 years ago) tried a couple of brokers and they quoted me nothing special at all (and one seemed to be pi**ed off he had couldn't close the deal in one call). Was able to get a far better deal by simple negotiation with the dealer direct.

The impression I formed was that Honda don't do fleet discounts, versus Toyota, Holden etc. do.

[MKI4EVA]

not too long now before we place our oder............fark to think it's been almost 6months of tyre kicking.........hahhaha.

gonna get TOW BAR y'alllllllllllllllllll. : ).

[Type R Positive]

I would agree with m0nty ITR with respect to car brokers in my limited experience.

When buying my Euro (was 3 years ago) tried a couple of brokers and they quoted me nothing special at all (and one seemed to be pi**ed off he had couldn't close the deal in one call). Was able to get a far better deal by simple negotiation with the dealer direct.

The impression I formed was that Honda don't do fleet discounts, versus Toyota, Holden etc. do.
I already said Honda don't do stuff all...... read my post.

[Type R Positive]

No they can't. I hope my 6 years industry experience has more weight than your unsubstantiated heresay.
What as? Used car salesman?

Unsubstantiated with my missus working for Toyota. ;)

[m0nty ITR]

What as? Used car salesman?

Unsubstantiated with my missus working for Toyota. ;)

Sales manager at a Volkswagen dealer for 4 of those years. Childish retorts just make you look the bigger fool.

My dealer principal has had a Toyota dealership for over 20 years and before that Ford for 10 years. He owns the largest and most successful Lexus dealership in the southern hemisphere (that includes the factory owned Sydney City Lexus) and would spend his time playing Golf with people like John Rocka. But I'm sure you're wife knows who he is. ;)

What exactly does your "missus" do for Toyota when you live in Perth?

[Rudy]

Please lets not veer into personal attacks. With my limited experience with brokers I also say they are useless. Got way less than he could just by talking with dealer.

[SPQR]

Brokers might work on "common" brands willing to discount but Honda doesn't discount much. Brokers don't work at all in Darwin because there is only one dealer for each brand and most dealers sell more than one brand; so no competition. I contacted a broker once and all he did was call my local dealer because there was no advantage for him to sell me a car sourced from Sydney that then had to be freighted 4,000km.

A lot of people here go south to buy something like a Landcruiser because they can get an instant discount of around $8K; which also pays for their holiday to get the car and they have change left over.

[tony1234]

Brokers might work on "common" brands willing to discount but Honda doesn't discount much. Brokers don't work at all in Darwin because there is only one dealer for each brand and most dealers sell more than one brand; so no competition. I contacted a broker once and all he did was call my local dealer because there was no advantage for him to sell me a car sourced from Sydney that then had to be freighted 4,000km.

A lot of people here go south to buy something like a Landcruiser because they can get an instant discount of around $8K; which also pays for their holiday to get the car and they have change left over.
Yeah i agree,brokers work best on the more common brands that offer fleet discounts.

[UNLS1]

lol well done Type R positive u got ownd.

now wat does ur mrs do at toyota? regos?

[Type R Positive]

Owned?
Google "car broker fleet discount" mate, and you just might learn something.

Missus was a finance manager before going to westpac if you must really know.
And no, she didn't play golf with anyone, if that matters as well.

[m0nty ITR]

Owned?
Google "car broker fleet discount" mate, and you just might learn something.

Missus was a finance manager before going to westpac if you must really know.
And no, she didn't play golf with anyone, if that matters as well.

Because a car broker tells you the get fleet discounts you believe them? Imagine if they posted the truth. Would you use them?

Here at XYZ car brokers we charge the dealers a referral fee, sometimes up to $2,000 and in some instances the customers too. That means the "fleet discount" we get you is eaten up and you could've bought it cheaper from the dealer anyway.

For the record, John Rocka is CEO of Toyota Australia. But I wouldn't expect a former business manager to know that, or how car broker services work. Both UNLS1 and myself have years of motor sales experience between us. Every other sales person in the industry will tell you the same. They'd rather sell direct to customers than to brokers and they could get it cheaper without a broker anyway.

[SteveH]

For the record, John Rocka is CEO of Toyota Australia. But I wouldn't expect a former business manager to know that, or how car broker services work.

Who is John Rocka? According to the Toyota Australia website, the Australian CEO is Max Yasuda. The Lexus CEO is John Roca. Maybe with all of the experience, you have gotten confused somewhere?

[m0nty ITR]

For the record, John Rocka is CEO of Toyota Australia. But I wouldn't expect a former business manager to know that, or how car broker services work.

Who is John Rocka? According to the Toyota Australia website, the Australian CEO is Max Yasuda. The Lexus CEO is John Roca. Maybe with all of the experience, you have gotten confused somewhere?

One and the same. John Roca was the MD of Toyota before Lexus from memory.

At the end of the day I do know how car brokers work because they have bought cars from me. they DO charge referral fees and do NOT get fleet discounts regardless of what they tell people on their websites.

[dilanja]

Hi Guys,
I’m quite new to the forum. I am currently in the process of closing the deal on a brand new Accord luxury. I got a quote for $37,489 drive away. This is on a company fleet deal.
Cheers,
Dilan

[Rudy]

Hi Guys,
I’m quite new to the forum. I am currently in the process of closing the deal on a brand new Accord luxury. I got a quote for $37,489 drive away. This is on a company fleet deal.
Cheers,
Dilan


Hmm strong 1st post and join date.

[MiSloVic]

saw euro prices has gone up by $1k... but you get free CTP, Rego, 5 yr warranty, 5 yr roadside assist for now.

[Rodjah]

I have found an 2008 manual silver accord euro (new shape) in silver, which is an ex-demo with 6000km on the clock for 32k drive away. Is this a good deal? what price were people able to bargain the new cars down to? I also got a good price for my trade in.

[shakkas]

I have found an 2008 manual silver accord euro (new shape) in silver, which is an ex-demo with 6000km on the clock for 32k drive away. Is this a good deal? what price were people able to bargain the new cars down to? I also got a good price for my trade in.


to be honest i know that u can get a manual euro for 33k driveaway brand new. i got my auto euro for 35k driveaway, and the dealer said usually 2k in difference between manual and auto.

i think pretty expensive esp the kms it has on it

[buddah51au]

That is virtually New Price for a demo. With 6,000km i would expect you would pay around 30K maximum.

[drydenim]

Hi everyone, first post here :)

I'm looking to get a new car soon-ish, will start hunting around in February.

The Accord Euro is one of the cars I'm considering. Just wondering, with the recent increase in prices, what kind of price will I be paying for a base model, either auto or manual?

Thanks for the help :wave:

[Type R Positive]

Hi everyone, first post here :)

I'm looking to get a new car soon-ish, will start hunting around in February.

The Accord Euro is one of the cars I'm considering. Just wondering, with the recent increase in prices, what kind of price will I be paying for a base model, either auto or manual?

Thanks for the help :wave:
same as before, but with another $1k discount! ;)

[drydenim]

Which post are your referring to as 'before' :confused: Care to elaborate? Thanks :)

I'll probably go for the cheapest I can get, with not much add-ons except rear-parking sensors.

[Type R Positive]

Which post are your referring to as 'before' :confused: Care to elaborate? Thanks :)
Have you bothered to read this thread? :confused:

[drydenim]

Yeah I did,read about 33k driveaway for a manual brand new? So with the extra 1k discount you mentioned, I should expect to pay 32k?

[Type R Positive]

Yeah I did,read about 33k driveaway for a manual brand new? So with the extra 1k discount you mentioned, I should expect to pay 32k?Nah, still aim for $33k. I payed $35k or $36k for my 6mt base ages ago. I was the first in WA to get one. Back when they said heaps of sales, heaps of interest, blah blah blah.

The extra $1k discount comes from Honda increasing the prices $1k.
You still have to try and get it though. :p

Times are tough for Honda, they got '08 runouts too. Screw them hard..... ;)

[drydenim]

Ahh I see, so 33k driveaway is for 09 models?
Btw any links to threads with bargaining tips?

Thanks for the quick reply.

[tony1234]

Ahh I see, so 33k driveaway is for 09 models?
Btw any links to threads with bargaining tips?

Thanks for the quick reply.
Any car 08 build and complianced bargain HARD,HA are keen to shift them.Technically they are 1 year old now.If you want a 09 build AND complianced then you're not in such a good bargaining position.either way call in to 3 honda dealers(with trade if you have 1)tell them you're ready to buy now for the right changeover figure.When they ask you how much pick a figure bordering on the ridiculous.Ask for their best price.Wait a few days then call the other 2 dealers that gave you the 2nd.and 3rd.best price and tell them the changeover price of the dealer gave you the best price.Then sit back and wait.You should start to get phone calls within a few days.Play them off against one another.You can do this for as long as you want but be carefull that you don't piss them off too much.At all times during the negotiation let them all know you will buy NOW at the right price.Doing the above 2 times should be enough to get you a reasonably good deal.If you can sell your car privately even better,that places you in a really good position to bargain hard.As a rough guide if you can get the car drive away for the advertised price NOT including on roads you're doing well.Lastly when you shake hands and agree on a price be prepared to sign a contract and leave a reasonable deposit.Have fun!!!

[SteveH]

Have to agree with Tony. The only way to guarantee a good price is to be prepared to pay a deposit there and then. Also need to keep letting them know that you will buy the car today for the right price.

Good luck.

[Type R Positive]

Yeah, work out what you want, for how much you want first. Very important.
Stuff like 12 month rego instead of 6. They are doing free 12 month rego, CTP, and 5 year warranty now on them anyway.
Get stuff like boot liner and carpet mats thrown in for free. You said you wanted rear parking sensors. Make sure you get them thrown in for free too. On the accessories list, these are about $600 fitted.

Now for bargaining, write all this down. I do the call around first, and see who wants to play. When you go in to the dealers, hand them your list and credit card for deposit. Be prepared to walk if you don't get what you want.

If you got a trade in, you're going to get screwed.......

[Mickazee]

Just FYI I signed the contract on an Accord Euro Lux on Tuesday this week for $40k with trade in on a 98 Camry.

Don't know if this is the absoloute "best" price I could have got, but, first time buying a new car and having to go through this so I'm hoping I did alright.

Pick it up next week :)

[tony1234]

Initially it's best to negotiate price on a car with NO accessories as the accessories have huge markup.when you're getting down to the nitty gritty then you can start on throwing in accessories to sweeten the deal.

[drydenim]

Wow thanks to all for the tips, very very helpful indeed. I don't have a trade in, so hopefully I'll be able to get a good deal. :thumbsup:

[MKI4EVA]

are we getting this?

"Options will include lane-keeping assistance (which alerts the driver when the car starts to move out of its lane); adaptive cruise control and a collision mitigation brake system to warn the driver of a possible accident and prepare the brakes for an emergency stop."

[fAelb]

are we getting this?

"Options will include lane-keeping assistance (which alerts the driver when the car starts to move out of its lane); adaptive cruise control and a collision mitigation brake system to warn the driver of a possible accident and prepare the brakes for an emergency stop."

no, we don't get those in aus unfortunately.

[denot]

hi all, I too will soon hunting for my CU2 (trade in my Civic Sports for it). If I say, I need the new car fast, will this helps in bargaining? or should I play the "you (dealer) need to get rid of your floor stock, so you need me more than I need you" game?

[Type R Positive]

hi all, I too will soon hunting for my CU2 (trade in my Civic Sports for it). If I say, I need the new car fast, will this helps in bargaining? or should I play the "you (dealer) need to get rid of your floor stock, so you need me more than I need you" game?
I wouldn't act desperate if that's what you mean.
But make sure they know you're serious though.
Do your homework before you go in. ;)

[denot]

nah Type R... i mean I acted the oposite to desperate... act "not really interested on buying the one they have, coz I get better deal somewhere else but since I bought my civic from them so I think I give them a chance" :p LOL

[buddah51au]

you live in sydney, so play dealer against dealer and never take first offer, think about second offer but try for better.


nah Type R... i mean I acted the oposite to desperate... act "not really interested on buying the one they have, coz I get better deal somewhere else but since I bought my civic from them so I think I give them a chance" :p LOL

[denot]

noob question: to try to get 08 stock, should I go to the new car section or the used car? what about ex-demo?

cheers

[Type R Positive]

noob question: to try to get 08 stock, should I go to the new car section or the used car? what about ex-demo?

cheers
New. I would say all stock in Australia will be '08.

Ex demo could be a bargain. Sometimes they load them with extras to offload them.

[denot]

^^^ typE R, should I go to the new section for an ex-demo as well?

[Type R Positive]

^^^ typE R, should I go to the new section for an ex-demo as well?Yes. Just ask them if they got any.

[tony1234]

^^^ typE R, should I go to the new section for an ex-demo as well?
yes.Bargain hard on floor stock as it's all 08 even harder on a demo as they usually have had a hard life(read,been flogged by customers).No 09 stock in the country yet .you should start to see 09s approx.late March.Be carefull as the 1st.ones that come through are built 08 complianced 09.

[denot]

ya, I dont need 09 stock as it 99.99% the same anyway (hopefuly not like the civic sports!!!) Also, I might start looking next month, do u guys think there will be more promotion?

[tony1234]

ya, I dont need 09 stock as it 99.99% the same anyway (hopefuly not like the civic sports!!!) Also, I might start looking next month, do u guys think there will be more promotion?
No i don't think so.I'd go for it now as HA are offering rego,CTP and 5yr warranty with roadside assist on all 08 Euros.This is paid for by Honda not the dealer so still bargain hard,go get em!

[tqt]

Guys at last I got my new Honda Accord Euro Black Auto on Monday for $34.500 drive away model 09 complianced plate with extra: slim white plates, Honda carpet mats, Full tank fuel, free rego & CTP, 5yrs Honda warranty, 5yrs Honda roadside assist and Pick it up next week. Is this a good deal?

[Type R Positive]

Guys at last I got my new Honda Accord Euro Black Auto on Monday for $34.500 drive away model 09 complianced plate with extra: slim white plates, Honda carpet mats, Full tank fuel, free rego & CTP, 5yrs Honda warranty, 5yrs Honda roadside assist and Pick it up next week. Is this a good deal?Yes. Very good deal! :)

[tony1234]

Yes. Very good deal! :)
Yeah,sounds like a good deal to me.

[Dilan]

Guys at last I got my new Honda Accord Euro Black Auto on Monday for $34.500 drive away model 09 complianced plate with extra: slim white plates, Honda carpet mats, Full tank fuel, free rego & CTP, 5yrs Honda warranty, 5yrs Honda roadside assist and Pick it up next week. Is this a good deal?
We got a similar deal on ours!

We get to pick ours up in two weeks! 09 compliled, with all that 5 years rego, road side assist etc. Manual, volcano grey for $34,400 drive away with car mats, cargo protector tray thingo, tinting, reverse sensors .

[tqt]

auto or manual ?

[Dilan]

manual, as cool as the shift paddles were...nothing beats a clutch for me:D

[tqt]

manual must be more cheap the auto by 2k :)

[denot]

just seal the deal today std auto black (no white :() with tint, mat and reverse for $35,200 for 08 build stock... 12kms... the 09 stock will be 40k driveaway starting tomorrow...

[buddah51au]

just seal the deal today std auto black (no white :() with tint, mat and reverse for $35,200 for 08 build stock... 12kms... the 09 stock will be 40k driveaway starting tomorrow...

Congrats Mate, you will be happy with your new ride and a good price. Not sure about the colour, sure it will look nice while it's new, but will require lots of elbow grease and meguiars on your part

[tony1234]

Congrats Mate, you will be happy with your new ride and a good price. Not sure about the colour, sure it will look nice while it's new, but will require lots of elbow grease and meguiars on your part
Yeah,black is a pain,but as long as you wash it every 1-2 weeks and polish 2-3 times per year you'll be right

[buddah51au]

Yeah,black is a pain,but as long as you wash it every 1-2 weeks and polish 2-3 times per year you'll be right

LOL. more like giving it a bath twice a week and the meguiars treatment every 4 to 6 weeks. That's what i would be doing anyway. Even my Pearl white will get meguiars at least every 8 weeks.

Don't get me wrong, I love black cars, but they are a pain to keep in pristine condition and they show every mark. If we still had the option of a beige interior i may have considered it, but i still think my brain would have overruled my heart, especially as I do 600km a week minimum on country roads where stone chips are more common than running over cane toads......lol

[denot]

Hmmm they offer me the X-Pack thingy with nano tech thingy and they said that it will protect the exterior colour as new... but its cost around $1,500 ish... No need to wax and all for life!!! is it worth it?

[denot]

or should i change to silver? (no other colour available)

[buddah51au]

All paint protection is a total waste of money, a sales gimmick. Nothing is as good elbow grease and meguiars.

Personal opinion i would take the silver option, but we all have different tastes. My Uncle got a Silver 1 on my advice, and they look quite nice, unfortunately for him he sold it after 6 weeks because it was TOO SMALL. Silly Senile Old Idiot.....lol. That's the one i told you you could get for a good price with 1500km on the clock.

[denot]

ah ic buddah... but I dont really like the silver colour... too... ordinary :p anyway, let see how it goes then...

[buddah51au]

Like you Denot i am not a great fan of Silver, if I was I would not have hesitated buying the second hand 1 I mentioned as I know it's history, the owner & have Driven it.

To me the problem is we only have 6 options when it comes to exterior colour & individual choices are as different as each individual personality. Speaking just for myself I automatically eliminate 3 of the 6 colours, that being Red, Black & Volcano Grey.

My order of preference is Pearl White, Silver, Blue as i feel these are more suitable with a black interior & they will hold age better than the other colours, & POSSIBLY have a better resale value, but we all think differently. The car is the same under the exterior colour, so no matter what you choose you will have a great car.

[Type R Positive]

just seal the deal today std auto black (no white :() with tint, mat and reverse for $35,200 for 08 build stock... 12kms... the 09 stock will be 40k driveaway starting tomorrow...
Sweet price mate. I think you got a great deal.

And just on the black - Just get a good sealant. Will give it great protection, and make it a piece of piss to wash. It makes the paint so slick, that nothing will really stick to it. I live in a dusty windy place, and I always laugh when it rains. Everyone elses cars are left covered in shit, but mine is left all sparkling.

NXT gen liquid wax is a good sealant from Meg's, but there is better out there. I am using poli-seal on opti-seal over the top. Zaino is ment to be one of the best, as well as Klasse. Just prep the paint properly - clay - paint cleaner - and apply your sealant. It bonds to the paint and will last months. It is the best thing you can possibly do for that glossy wet look.

Do you have a random orbital? I got one of these:
http://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/meguiars/dual_action_polisher
and it is worth it's weight in gold. Especially if you have a black car. ;)
Mine cost $250, but the price has gone up to $300. Beats polishing by hand....

Taken today, detailed on friday using poli-seal and opti-seal topper:
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/NT450/bling-euro.jpg

[Type R Positive]

Hmmm they offer me the X-Pack thingy with nano tech thingy and they said that it will protect the exterior colour as new... but its cost around $1,500 ish... No need to wax and all for life!!! is it worth it?
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdwn:
It is a gimmick mate. They just use a paint sealant. You have to get a 'check up' which costs you lots of money to keep your 'warranty'. At this time, they just re-apply the sealant. :zip:

Just use a good sealant yourself. :cool:

[Sludge]

I didn't go with the paint protection.

I've been told that paint protection can make colour matching a problem, if god forbid someone hits you.

Colour is such a subjective thing, personally I love the Black and don't mind the extra work to keep it clean, I have been washing mine at least every second week, comes up like new with a bit of elbow work on the chamois.

Silver can be a bit of a bore but the Silver on the Euro is a really effective shade, I think it looks classy and it probably would have been my second choice.

[Type R Positive]

comes up like new with a bit of elbow work on the chamois.You would be better off using a microfiber drying towel instead!

[Sludge]

Thanks, I'll give it a go.

[buddah51au]

I am with Type R when it comes to paint protection, but i do everything by hand. Immediately after getting my Euro i went over it with Meguiars Paint Cleaner followed with NXT Gen 2 wax. I have just got the Meguiars Clay Bar & will soon be doing it again, but Clay Bar, paint Cleaner, Wax.

Just set aside a fine weekend about every 2 months to give it a good detail.

[Joystick]

This is a very handy thread as I'm looking to purchase a new Euro this week, was going to buy this weekend but changed my mind and might get a luxury now.

I've been quoted $34,000 for a Black auto drive away for a standard which is very tempting but I'm hoping for $41,000 drive away on a Black auto Lux model.....

Just had a couple of questions since dealerships are not open on Sundays in Canberra.

-Are the Euro keys a flip type or just the standard type?
-In the specs it says the standard model has halogen but when I looked at the car they look projected...?

One thing that annoys me is the boot space the full size alloy takes up, this should be an option instead imo.

[tony1234]

I am with Type R when it comes to paint protection, but i do everything by hand. Immediately after getting my Euro i went over it with Meguiars Paint Cleaner followed with NXT Gen 2 wax. I have just got the Meguiars Clay Bar & will soon be doing it again, but Clay Bar, paint Cleaner, Wax.

Just set aside a fine weekend about every 2 months to give it a good detail.
I just polished my car using Megs.fine cut cleaner no.2 with a random orbital then finished it off with NXT Gen 2 wax as well.I get up to 6 mths. before i need to reapply wax.Admittedly my car is garaged most of the time as i work from home 3 days a week.It looks great now.

[Sludge]

Hi Joystick,

The key is a standard type. Pretty sure the standard has Halogen lights, the Luxury has HID's.

If you go for the Luxury the spare is a space saver.

[Joystick]

Thanks Sludge,

Having the sapce saver spare is part of the reason why I'm thinking about buying the luxury (among other things as well) over the standard model.

If you don't mind me asking Sludge, how much was the real spoiler?

Cheers

[Sludge]

$670 fitted, give or take a few gold coins.

[denot]

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!! :thumbdwn:
It is a gimmick mate. They just use a paint sealant. You have to get a 'check up' which costs you lots of money to keep your 'warranty'. At this time, they just re-apply the sealant. :zip:

Just use a good sealant yourself. :cool:

hi type R, they told me with the x-pack nano tech thingy I dont need to come back to do any check up for a lifetime...

but I think I will pass on this and try to clean and protect it myself. The thing is Im such a noob on detailing/protecting car so do you have any place you suggest that can do all this on a reasonable price?

thanks

[SPQR]

hi type R, they told me with the x-pack nano tech thingy I dont need to come back to do any check up for a lifetime...

but I think I will pass on this and try to clean and protect it myself....

:thumbsup: Any extras that dealers try to sell you are a con.

[SPQR]

Hi Joystick,
Pretty sure the standard has Halogen lights, the Luxury has HID's.

As for the CL9, the CU2 Standard has halogen headlights with projector lenses. The Luxury has HID with projector lenses.

[buddah51au]

hi type R, they told me with the x-pack nano tech thingy I dont need to come back to do any check up for a lifetime...

but I think I will pass on this and try to clean and protect it myself. The thing is Im such a noob on detailing/protecting car so do you have any place you suggest that can do all this on a reasonable price?

thanks

You Tube is a good starting point, search clay bar, polishing, waxing, detailing.....etc

[Bobjones]

Ok as a detailer with quite a few Pro-detailer mates...I would like to add about the paint protection...

Its crap, its merely a low end sealant bought in bulk, applied without the proper prep and the guarantee for a lifetime is a joke, read the fine print where it says it must be re-applied at YOUR expense. The sealant certainly does not last the specified time and in fact leaving it so long will actually in the long term cause more harm than good. Most of my detailing products come from Germany or the States and I am yet to see a sealant work without fault for over 6 months unless the car sits in the garage and does not venture outside in the elements...

By the time you go and buy decent detailing stuff, not Meguiars...sorry gys not a fan, you can spend half the amount, and have a better looking car with paint in a better condition.

The dealers are banking on the fact that the smallest percentage of people actually keep their cars for a "lifetime"...

Also, if you want detailing information go to:

www.autogeek.net
www.autopia.org
www.waxit.com.au - for detailing supplies and a very knowledgable bloke.
www.detailersparadise.com.au

As a side note, there is only a need to clay bar when the paint is rough, there is no need to do it all the time. A decent sealant, will assist in lengthening the time between clay barring. If you also own a dark coloured car it will always be hard to reduce swirls, however, improper polishing and waxing by hand can actually speed up this process, especially if people use "old towels" for polishing and wax removal thus marring the paint surface.

Please don't take this as self promotion, but the link here shows what can happen with improper washing (Black Evo) and improper hand polishing (prev page Red Challenger)

http://www.evolutionoz.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6483&st=40&start=40

[Type R Positive]

hi type R, they told me with the x-pack nano tech thingy I dont need to come back to do any check up for a lifetime...

but I think I will pass on this and try to clean and protect it myself. The thing is Im such a noob on detailing/protecting car so do you have any place you suggest that can do all this on a reasonable price?

thanks
Yeah, that is bullshit about the paint protection.

Here is what the dealers use:
http://www.paintprotection.com.au/what_is_paint_protection.php
Costs like $150 a kit.....

Everything you needed to know about detailing:
http://www.guidetodetailing.com/

I get my stuff from here:
http://www.carcareproducts.com.au
http://www.waxit.com.au

[MKI4EVA]

Hey guys..........we just bought a black-09 spec lux manual for $42K incl GST drive away.

can't wait to pick it up early March.

Car didn't feel as fast or handled as well as the VW tiguan but for options and comfort the CU came out tops.

[buddah51au]

Could i get some opinions please. I have just rang Waxit.com.au to seek recommendations. I do not use a Buffing Machine, everything is done by hand. Their recomendation is:-
Step 1 - Clay Bar
Step 2 - Pinnicle Swirl Remover
step 3 - Duragloss Polish Bonding Agent #601
step 4 - Duragloss CCP #111 Sealant

The last 3 steps need to be repeated every 3 to 5 months. Clay Bar every 12 to 18 months.

I have been using Meguiars for many years, but it seems that it is not the best way to go these days.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo325/buddah51au/29-01-09_1527.jpg

[Type R Positive]

Yeah, I'm a big fan of sealants. Especially if you have to polish your car by hand!!!
The price seems great on those products too.

[Joystick]

Got quoted $43,888 for an 08 build Auto Lux in black - this price seems rather dissappointing after getting quoted $34,161 for the standard Auto.

I know Honda has heaps of 08 plated Euros but I don't think they want to get me in to a Luxury Euro at the price they've quoted. Also, I beleive they're extending their Honda sale on selected 08 plated vehicles. Probably to combat Mazda since they have a similar deal on at the moment.

[Sludge]

That seems a bit steep given what you were quoted on the standard auto. There is only $8,000 difference in the ticket price and maybe a few more dollars for stamp duty, but $9,700?

Have you thought about trying some Sydney dealers, It would be a nice first run back to Canberra.

[Joystick]

I might have to Sludge, it's got me second guessing if I should even get a Euro now....going to take a look at the Mazda 6 and VW Jetta 147TSI.

PS love what you've done to your Euro :D

[denot]

^^^ mazda 6 somehow feels only as big as civic and interior quality is equal to civic (my 2cents) jetta just got voted 2008 Gay Car of the YeAr by one of da gay mags (cant remember which since i didnt read those) :p

[Euro_CU2]

Got quoted $43,888 for an 08 build Auto Lux in black - this price seems rather dissappointing after getting quoted $34,161 for the standard Auto.

I know Honda has heaps of 08 plated Euros but I don't think they want to get me in to a Luxury Euro at the price they've quoted. Also, I beleive they're extending their Honda sale on selected 08 plated vehicles. Probably to combat Mazda since they have a similar deal on at the moment.

Did you get any free options from that quote?

08 compliance would be cheaper than 09.. about $2k

[Joystick]

Did you get any free options from that quote?

08 compliance would be cheaper than 09.. about $2k

Both quotes for the standard and the luxury do not include any free options. Maybe I'll just wait until the end of Feb when they need to clear out more 08 stock.

[Joystick]

^^^ mazda 6 somehow feels only as big as civic and interior quality is equal to civic (my 2cents) jetta just got voted 2008 Gay Car of the YeAr by one of da gay mags (cant remember which since i didnt read those) :p

Hey Denot, I agreed that the interior quality on the Mazda 6 is below that of the Honda Euro and the Jetta is a little bland....

[SteveH]

I might have to Sludge, it's got me second guessing if I should even get a Euro now....going to take a look at the Mazda 6 and VW Jetta 147TSI.

PS love what you've done to your Euro :D

I looked at the Mazda and Jetta as well before buying the Euro. The Mazda is a nice car, but I didn't think the interior was anywhere as nice as the Euro. I thought the Jetta was a little too small for what I needed plus some of the options can drive the price right up, nice car though

[denot]

Both quotes for the standard and the luxury do not include any free options. Maybe I'll just wait until the end of Feb when they need to clear out more 08 stock.

Hmmm just FYI, I went to 4 dealers last weekend (in Sydney) and 2 of them doesnt have 08 plate on stock no more!!! From the other 2, they only have 3 car (2 silver and 1 black -> the last one is the one I took) :)

[Euro_CU2]

Both quotes for the standard and the luxury do not include any free options. Maybe I'll just wait until the end of Feb when they need to clear out more 08 stock.

Well in Sydney you have a better chance i guess, my 09 Compliance was a good deal considering it was for the 08 compliance price.... i had a few things thrown in for free also..... which is standard at most dealers in sydney... Except the Rear boot lip spoiler i wanted..

[Sludge]

Hey Euro CU2, If you PM me I can give you the name of a company that can do an aftermarket rear spoiler for you. He told me yesterday he can do one for under $400.

Too late for me.

[MKI4EVA]

Mazda 6 is huge inside.......but even the top end one has crap interior and is heaps more $$$ than the euro lux.

With the Jetta theres a new shape come'n out shortly following the MKVI shape due out later this year or early next.

[Euro_CU2]

Hey Euro CU2, If you PM me I can give you the name of a company that can do an aftermarket rear spoiler for you. He told me yesterday he can do one for under $400.

Too late for me.

Thats not a bad price either..... Let me think about it and i will PM you if i decide on it.

Thanks man..

[Euro_CU2]

Mazda 6 is huge inside.......but even the top end one has crap interior and is heaps more $$$ than the euro lux.

With the Jetta theres a new shape come'n out shortly following the MKVI shape due out later this year or early next.

Actually i went to Mazda 4 days later and looked at the Mazda 6 Luxury Sport, they are having a sale as you all say and the quote he gave me was $43K Auto trans...

But he also stated to me there is an upgrade version and he stated everything would be the same for the shell etc and its only interior or some minor upgrades... like rain sensing wipers and possible Adaptive Front-lighting System like the 6 Diesel version and Auto headlight on/off.

I just feel the Euro is more solid and the inside is style i like... esp the Floating Gauges ...

But both are nice cars and as for everyone it comes down to personal choise and preferrence on the final purchase..

I did check out the IS250 prestige.... but it was still around $16K diff and didnt have the features that the euro lux had as std.... unless its the $80K mark for the luxury sports.. !!!

[Type R Positive]

I did check out the IS250 prestige.... but it was still around $16K diff and didnt have the features that the euro lux had as std.... unless its the $80K mark for the luxury sports.. !!!Yeah, I love the Lexus, but how the F*** can you justify the price? :confused:

[petsfact]

i hate it when car dealer say : if you are serious we can sit down and work through the deal.

as if they open a shop in the supermarket everyone just walk in with no reason.

btw i've got quote 48k for lux and 40k for standard, after a series of "if you are serious" questions.

[Euro_CU2]

i hate it when car dealer say : if you are serious we can sit down and work through the deal.

as if they open a shop in the supermarket everyone just walk in with no reason.

btw i've got quote 48k for lux and 40k for standard, after a series of "if you are serious" questions.


$48K Lux and $40K Std?? Not a good quote at all..

Location?

[Type R Positive]

btw i've got quote 48k for lux and 40k for standard, after a series of "if you are serious" questions.
I seriously would have said: "go and f*** yourself" then walked out.
I have done it many a time before.

[denot]

^^^ HAhaha this actually happened to me on the weekend, I said to him "Is there any other sales person in this dealer? Or should I go somewhere else?"

[Joystick]

Finally signed the papers on a new Standard Auto black Euro. Will pick it up on Friday.

[Sludge]

Congratulations Joystick, hope you got a good deal.

Regardless you won't be disappointed with the ride.

[petsfact]

if you are serious in buying, we can sit down and work through the deal.
if you are serious in buying, i can pop the boonet
if you are serious in buying, i can arrange a test drive
if you are serious in buying, .......

not everyone come in with a 50k cheque stick to their forehead, your job is to persuade them to take it out.

[Joystick]

Just a quick question about delivery, my dealer won't do it on a Saturday, only during the week. Is this normal?

I was told because of the price I got on the Euro they can't take someone off the floor for 45mins going over the car on a Saturday.

Last Saturday they delivered a Lux Euro to a customer so I guess customer service comes at a price...

[Euro_CU2]

Just a quick question about delivery, my dealer won't do it on a Saturday, only during the week. Is this normal?

I was told because of the price I got on the Euro they can't take someone off the floor for 45mins going over the car on a Saturday.

Last Saturday they delivered a Lux Euro to a customer so I guess customer service comes at a price...

Not too sure about that.... as i got mine on a weekday.. But i do know there is a list of things they need to take you through and once the checklist has been done ... you need to sign off that sheet for the salesman.

Not sure if its to do with the price of what you got it for though... dunno

[denot]

Just a quick question about delivery, my dealer won't do it on a Saturday, only during the week. Is this normal?

I was told because of the price I got on the Euro they can't take someone off the floor for 45mins going over the car on a Saturday.

Last Saturday they delivered a Lux Euro to a customer so I guess customer service comes at a price...

Mate, I think you just got served... I would walk away from the dealer if I was treated like you... seriously... Dunno what he price they give you, but even if they give me 32k for that std auto I will still walk away...

[kimnkk]

I was told because of the price I got on the Euro they can't take someone off the floor for 45mins going over the car on a Saturday.

That sounds like pathetic customer service. I have noticed that a lot of Honda dealers have no concept of customer service, so maybe its now normal for Honda to treat people like that. :thumbdwn:

[Joystick]

Mate, I think you just got served... I would walk away from the dealer if I was treated like you... seriously... Dunno what he price they give you, but even if they give me 32k for that std auto I will still walk away...

I almost did.

I was very close to using my cooling off period and going to another dealer who WOULD provide customer service, I even consided buying another make.

I just want to get my car so i can enjoy it, I thought buying a new car would be fun but in the end it was a very stressful experience for me.

[tony1234]

Just a quick question about delivery, my dealer won't do it on a Saturday, only during the week. Is this normal?

I was told because of the price I got on the Euro they can't take someone off the floor for 45mins going over the car on a Saturday.

Last Saturday they delivered a Lux Euro to a customer so I guess customer service comes at a price...
Thats bullshit.That's just crap customer service.Name the dealer so we can all stay away from them.:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

[SPQR]

Name, shame and flame!

[Sludge]

You can get some revenge when you get your Honda survey!

[Euro_CU2]

Yes just dont sign the survey !! hahahaha

Or ask for the complaints box.

[tony1234]

Bear in mind that this is the DEALER that is offering shit service.This has nothing to do with HA.

[Joystick]

You can get some revenge when you get your Honda survey!

Knowing my dealer I'll have to pay for the survey as an extra. :P

I'll have some pics up tomorrow night.

[SPQR]

Yes just dont sign the survey !! hahahaha

Or ask for the complaints box.

I think those surveys have a well hidden reference number on them that enables Honda to know whose survey it is. Be afraid. And also, when you get your new car for a low price, if you go back to same dealer for service, they keep track of how much you owe them and they get it back off you over time. And it turns out that the yanks really did land on the moon.

[Euro_CU2]

I think those surveys have a well hidden reference number on them that enables Honda to know whose survey it is. Be afraid. And also, when you get your new car for a low price, if you go back to same dealer for service, they keep track of how much you owe them and they get it back off you over time. And it turns out that the yanks really did land on the moon.

Well that could be possible, but i guess we might just have to wait and see who does their services first and keep everyone posted on how much it was...

But thats only if ppl are curious to know if that is what goes on..

[MKI4EVA]

and Auto headlight on/off.

I just feel the Euro is more solid and the inside is style i like... esp the Floating Gauges ...



I sometimes wonder if I was just being bias towards honda but we've shoped for everything under the sun and nothing out there is this good for value.

totally agree with your comment.

[Euro_CU2]

Good as that assures me i ain't Biased towards Honda either. I mean there are many good cars out there theses days but when it comes down to the money and value.
Honda's are great for the build, quality etc.

[buddah51au]

Personally, I can't think of a better all round car under 50K, my 2 cents worth


Good as that assures me i ain't Biased towards Honda either. I mean there are many good cars out there theses days but when it comes down to the money and value.
Honda's are great for the build, quality etc.

[nickxau]

It's won Wheels COTY 2008 for a reason... :cool:

:honda:

[Joystick]

I found it interesting that Honda charge $100 for the 1000km service.....do they even change the oil?

[Joystick]

Didn't want to create a new topic for this but can you buy a space saver spare and the luxury boot liner for the standard model? I need the boot space!

[SteveH]

I found it interesting that Honda charge $100 for the 1000km service.....do they even change the oil?

I just had my 1,000km service today and it was free, including loan car. Didn't change the oil though, which I will probably do myself.

[dilanja]

I found it interesting that Honda charge $100 for the 1000km service.....do they even change the oil?

My 1000km service is due and I was told it was free. This was from Eastern Honda Doncaster and Courtney and Patterson Heidelberg. I asked them about the oil and I was informed that it does not need changing. I also had a look through the owner’s manual and it mentions that it is mainly a check to ensure that every thing works the way it's supposed to.

Just my 2 cents!
Cheers,

[Type R Positive]

1k service is free.

[Joystick]

Just went through the service booklet and all labour is free. I swear my dealer is trying to squeeze money out of me!

[kimnkk]

Just went through the service booklet and all labour is free. I swear my dealer is trying to squeeze money out of me!

Yeah, it sounds like your dealer is being a real arse. Especially denying you pickup on a saturday because you 'paid too little'. Take your services to a different dealer :)

[Type R Positive]

New dealer FTW

[buddah51au]

1st service is free, no oil change.

Actually I found the first service on my CU2 quite amusing. I had it booked in first thing so I could wait for it (and keep an eye open on the car). There is a great position for seeing what is happening if toy know where to go. All that was done was my car was moved around to the rear parking lot where it was quite visible. It sat there for !/2 hour and all that was done was the service sticker on the windscreen was changed, they didn't even lift the bonnet. They then gave the car a very quick wash (i had given it a good wash the previous day) so the car was returned to me not as clean as when it arrived.

Oh well, nothing new in that and they will not see the car again as i will do all servicing personally from now on. It helps to be a licensed mechanic.

[tony1234]

1st service is free, no oil change.

Actually I found the first service on my CU2 quite amusing. I had it booked in first thing so I could wait for it (and keep an eye open on the car). There is a great position for seeing what is happening if toy know where to go. All that was done was my car was moved around to the rear parking lot where it was quite visible. It sat there for !/2 hour and all that was done was the service sticker on the windscreen was changed, they didn't even lift the bonnet. They then gave the car a very quick wash (i had given it a good wash the previous day) so the car was returned to me not as clean as when it arrived.

Oh well, nothing new in that and they will not see the car again as i will do all servicing personally from now on. It helps to be a licensed mechanic.
You're joking!So you say they didn't even lift the bonnet?A**holes.you should complain to the dealer and HA.:thumbdwn:.Pity you didn't record it on your phone.

[Joystick]

So I'm guessing the complimentry cash wash & vacuum gets the thumbs down?

[tony1234]

buddah,where is your dealer?He sounds like 1 of 2 on the Gold coast that i've heard nothing but negative things about.

[buddah51au]

100% the bonnet was not lifted, no road test. all that was done was change the service sticker & give it a quicky wash, so in fact it was not as clean as when I took it there. The car was in sight the whole time while I was waiting.......they just didn't know I went up a side alley to watch......so I'm a cheeky old bugger.....lol

Dealer not on the gold coast.....about 700km north of there

[Type R Positive]

So I'm guessing the complimentry cash wash & vacuum gets the thumbs down?No one touches my cars. I specifically tell them not to.

[biggame]

no oil change? seems odd...

[Type R Positive]

no oil change? seems odd...
Why is that?

[buddah51au]

I will do my first oil change & filter at 5000km, then every 5000km after that. Maybe i will swith to full synthetic at 10,000km

[Euro_CU2]

I recall someone advising me on this forum that Honda use a special Run in oil, hence they do not require an oil change at 1000km Free service.... Which is probably why its free cos they do not change any oil etc.

I was thinking of replacing the Oil at about 5000km or there abouts as well, If not then i leave it till 10,000Km then use Fully Synthetic.

Is anyone able to confirm the Run in Oil that Honda use? Was this the same with the CL9's? and late models from honda?

[denot]

Hmmm from the log book of my Civic, on 1000kms doesnt stated any oil change. just make sure that everythin ok.

[Euro_CU2]

So maybe they did change the type of Oil they use for the run in..... So 10K change and not 1K oil change. Might ask a friend who works at the dealer if you knows..

[buddah51au]

personally. i would never go 10,000km between oil changes, regardless of the type of oil being used. Sure, many would consider it over servicing, but it is cheap preventative maintenance. For me it is oil change & filter every 5,000km. If you use genuine Honda FEO Oil, Filter & washer its $48 bucks & a few minutes of your time.

[biggame]

Why is that?

Cause i may be wrong, but i thought they change the oil at 1000km...
If this is not the case, 10,000km on the break-in oil is a long time... someone correct me if i'm wrong (i'm a newb to honda's)

[kimnkk]

Cause i may be wrong, but i thought they change the oil at 1000km...
If this is not the case, 10,000km on the break-in oil is a long time... someone correct me if i'm wrong (i'm a newb to honda's)

They didn't change the oil at 1000km on our CU2. I thought it was at 10,000km too. Might change to some fully synthetic at 5,000km though (is fully synthetic ok for such a young engine?)

[denot]

I thought it states clearly on the log book? My Civic log book does... it describe what Honda will do on each services (things to check and things to replace)

[kimnkk]

I thought it states clearly on the log book? My Civic log book does... it describe what Honda will do on each services (things to check and things to replace)

I just checked the CU2 logbook and there's no oil change for 1,000km.

[buddah51au]

I would not use full synthetic oil at 5,000km. Use genuine Honda FEO oil, then switch to Fully Synthetic if you wish to at 10,000km.....personal opinion

[Type R Positive]

Cause i may be wrong, but i thought they change the oil at 1000km...
If this is not the case, 10,000km on the break-in oil is a long time... someone correct me if i'm wrong (i'm a newb to honda's)
Special break in oils now days. They are full of molybdenum.
My Toyota's were the same deal.

[HVF00T]

I suspect break in oils are a thing of the past or are only used on specific cars. My Integra Typre R '01 (DC2) had break in oil when I bought it. The oil was extremely thin compared to normal oil and an oil change was scheduled for and performed at 1000km.

I asked the dealer if my new CU2 had break-in oil and after checking with the service manager he said no. This was confirmed when i changed the oil to full synthetic the other day. The original oil had normal viscosity.

[Type R Positive]

I suspect break in oils are a thing of the past or are only used on specific cars. My Integra Typre R '01 (DC2) had break in oil when I bought it. The oil was extremely thin compared to normal oil and an oil change was scheduled for and performed at 1000km.

I asked the dealer if my new CU2 had break-in oil and after checking with the service manager he said no. This was confirmed when i changed the oil to full synthetic the other day. The original oil had normal viscosity.
My old CL9 was 1000kms too. But that oil was just a cheap mineral I believe with little protection, hence the short lifespan. Viscosity has nothing to do with it.

[Euro_CU2]

I suspect break in oils are a thing of the past or are only used on specific cars. My Integra Typre R '01 (DC2) had break in oil when I bought it. The oil was extremely thin compared to normal oil and an oil change was scheduled for and performed at 1000km.

I asked the dealer if my new CU2 had break-in oil and after checking with the service manager he said no. This was confirmed when i changed the oil to full synthetic the other day. The original oil had normal viscosity.

How many K's did you change the Oil at for your CU2?

Which Oil did you use?

[buddah51au]

How many K's did you change the Oil at for your CU2?

Which Oil did you use?

I will change oil & Filter at 5000km, & will use Genuine Honda FEO oil. At 10,000km I will switch to Mobil 1 synthetic, & thereafter change oil & filter @ 5000km intervils. Auto Trans Oil will be changed every 20,000km.

[HVF00T]

How many K's did you change the Oil at for your CU2?

Which Oil did you use?

I changed the oil at about 120km (only because I didn't get a chance to change it earlier). I used Mobil 1 5W-30 because it meets Honda specifications (even though all of the Mobil 1 full Synthetic oils exceed API SL): http://www.mobil1.com.au/products/product_5W30.aspx. I use 5w-50 in my Type R because I do track days.

I've used Mobil 1 for a long time now and I know it can handle constant high RPM when I'm on the race track. I'm sure there are other full synthetics out there that are comparable but I guess I stick with what I know until something better comes along. I remember the ad with Peter Brock stating that he had seen an engine stripped down after 1,000,000km running on Mobil 1 and there was no engine wear - that's good enough for me.

[HVF00T]

A quick Google comes up with a few comments about Mobil being the oil provider for Honda. It doesn't surprise me.

http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/06-civic-csx/404413-sythetic-oil-preference.html
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/oqbh-makes-motor-oil-honda-cars

[Type R Positive]

I remember the ad with Peter Brock stating that he had seen an engine stripped down after 1,000,000km running on Mobil 1 and there was no engine wear - that's good enough for me.I'd say anything too, with the money he was paid.....

[Bobjones]

I am with Buddha on the oil changes, I am waiting however until after the pinging issue is resolved before touching it myself. From then on it will get full synthetic though and not the Honda oil, I believe, like most manufactuer brands such as Nissan and Toyota its just relabelled crap.

Oh and only turbo diesel and all my turbo performance cars are the same, except the rotor which is every 1-3,000km depending on use...lol

[furythree]

I'd say anything too, with the money he was paid.....

hes surely gunna be able to put all that money to good use now




if you dont mind me asking, when i was five years old, i watched my uncle do an oil change in 20 mins. why cant we just do it ourselves and buy mobile 1

[denot]

^^^ i think we can, but 4 warranty i states dat it need 2 be done by a quaify mechanic

[SteveH]

^^^ i think we can, but 4 warranty i states dat it need 2 be done by a quaify mechanic

I would rather do it myself than leave it to the 15 year old first year apprentice at the dealership. They probably pay the apprentice $10 per hour, but charge us $50

[denot]

I would rather do it myself than leave it to the 15 year old first year apprentice at the dealership. They probably pay the apprentice $10 per hour, but charge us $50

still if you are not a qualify mechanic, when (touch wood) something happen to the engine and you want to claim warranty... good luck

[SPQR]

Changing engine oil is not exactly rocket science. It's just yucky and inconvenient. It's easier to pay a prole* to do it. It gives someone a yucky job.

* "The Party's slogan in regard to proles is Proles and animals are free......That is mostly due to a fact that proles were not considered to be human beings. They did not have the intellectual power to understand that they are exploited by the Party (as a source of cheap labour) and were unable and/or unwilling to organize resistance. Their functions were simple: work and breed. They did not care much about anything else than taking care of home and family, quarrelling with neighbours, watching films and football, drinking beer, and buying lottery tickets....."

[buddah51au]

[QUOTE=SPQR;2122754]Changing engine oil is not exactly rocket science. It's just yucky and inconvenient. It's easier to pay a prole* to do it. It gives someone a yucky job.

A little oil on your hands is no big deal, it's not as bad as playing in the garden or cleaning fish. A little laundry detergent to wash hands, 30 minutes work & you have saved $100 +

[SPQR]

[QUOTE=SPQR;2122754]Changing engine oil is not exactly rocket science. It's just yucky and inconvenient. It's easier to pay a prole* to do it. It gives someone a yucky job.

A little oil on your hands is no big deal, it's not as bad as playing in the garden or cleaning fish. A little laundry detergent to wash hands, 30 minutes work & you have saved $100 +

Lol! Go for it. As I said, it's not rocket science but I'm over changing oil in my old age.

[Type R Positive]

if you dont mind me asking, when i was five years old, i watched my uncle do an oil change in 20 mins. why cant we just do it ourselves and buy mobile 1


^^^ i think we can, but 4 warranty i states dat it need 2 be done by a quaify mechanic
Yeah, warranty.
But if you know a mate with a mechanic's stamp.......

[amiaq]

hello guys ... i m new here..
i just bought accord euro 3 weeks ago. It's a Luxury Sat Nav for 47,500 drive away and the dealer threw in car mat and rear spoiler, also included 5 years warranty and road side assist.

[tony1234]

hello guys ... i m new here..
i just bought accord euro 3 weeks ago. It's a Luxury Sat Nav for 47,500 drive away and the dealer threw in car mat and rear spoiler, also included 5 years warranty and road side assist.
Hi and welcome.:wave:.Is your car an auto?

[amiaq]

Hi and welcome.:wave:.Is your car an auto?

it's an auto

[HVF00T]

^^^ i think we can, but 4 warranty i states dat it need 2 be done by a quaify mechanic

Not in my warranty book. On page 9 it says as long as the required maintenance is performed (at the specified intervals), the warranty will apply and be honoured. People tend to assume that it must be serviced by a qualified mechanic but that is not stated anywhere in the Honda terms of warranty. The only thing that must be carried out by Honda is the warranty repairs (that's a no brainer).

Also on page 8 it states "Honda strongly recommends: ..use of genuine Honda parts and lubricants whenever you have maintenance work performed."
Clearly this is just a recommendation and not a condition of warranty. I'm sure the ACCC would have something to say if Honda (or any other car maker) made it a condition of warranty to use only Honda lubricants. Same for car servicing.

So it's Mobil1 all the way. And if I change the oil and filter myself, at least I know it's done properly and not by some hung-over teen apprentice.

Getting back on topic, I picked up in early Feb my CU2 09 Euro Luxury Nav Black Auto with mats, rear parcel tray and rear wing spoiler for $46,300 drive away with 5 year warranty and road-side assist. Col Crawford - Brookvale.

[denot]

Not in my warranty book. On page 9 it says as long as the required maintenance is performed (at the specified intervals), the warranty will apply and be honoured. People tend to assume that it must be serviced by a qualified mechanic but that is not stated anywhere in the Honda terms of warranty. The only thing that must be carried out by Honda is the warranty repairs (that's a no brainer).

Trust me mate... me and a mate has this problem before with us claiming warranty and the services are not done by Honda (and our service was done with a non-Honda service center, not by ourself) and they try their best to avoid in fixing our problems (note: my problem is 6 CD Stackers stuff up and my mates was the "driver side windows cant be closed", both on Civic and both are very much happens to most civic FD owner).

So no matter what the page 9 said, they will still come up with something like:
"you did not close lid A properly", "you fill the oil more than required", "you didnt put enough oil, you shoud fill 2 mL more than what you did", "you change the wheels so it stuff the CD stacker", "you forgot to close the window overnight, hence it cant be closed now", etc etc etc... Trust me these are some genuine comments they made...

This sentence: "as long as the required maintenance is performed (at the specified intervals), the warranty will apply and be honoured" is actually Honda greatest weapon against us and ACCC

[HVF00T]

:) I know what you're saying. I had a stuffed rotor on my Type R and the Honda service centre tried to blame the car alarm that I had installed by a third party. Through some perserverance Honda took responsibility and changed the rotor under warranty.

I think it also depends on the Honda service centre. I've used two different Honda service centres and one is much better than the other at identifying and fixing problems (one took two goes at fixing the rotor problem with no success and tried to blame the alarm, the other fixed it straight away and I have not had a problem since).

Cheers.

[denot]

^^^ Yes HVFOOT... you're right... its depend on the service center as well...

Anyway, good buy mate! hope you enjoy the new car as much as I do :thumbsup:

[HVF00T]

^^^ Yes HVFOOT... you're right... its depend on the service center as well...

Anyway, good buy mate! hope you enjoy the new car as much as I do :thumbsup:

I love every second I drive it. :cool: I didn't think it would happen but I actually enjoy the flappy paddle gear shift too.

[yfin]

Not in my warranty book. On page 9 it says as long as the required maintenance is performed (at the specified intervals), the warranty will apply and be honoured. People tend to assume that it must be serviced by a qualified mechanic but that is not stated anywhere in the Honda terms of warranty. The only thing that must be carried out by Honda is the warranty repairs (that's a no brainer).


Sorry that is not correct. The warranty will not be honored. Only a registered mechanic is qualified to undertake the maintenance. Any one else touching the car will not be recognised as performing a service as required by manufacturers for warranty purposes.

[HVF00T]

Sorry that is not correct. The warranty will not be honored. Only a registered mechanic is qualified to undertake the maintenance. Any one else touching the car will not be recognised as performing a service as required by manufacturers for warranty purposes.

That's merely your opinion. My statement was based on facts ie the warranty book, and my experience.

Unless you can back up your claim with evidence, all I can say is whatever.

[buddah51au]

In NSW a mechanic has to be licensed, The workshop needs to be licensed as well. My recommendation to people is that they get the minor servicing done at a place like Ultra Tune (a minor service is just an oil change & i recommend getting it done every 5,000km, you supply genuine Oil & Filter & keep receipts). Then get major services done at Honda Dealer (40, 60, 120,000km etc).

Any work carried out by an unlicensed person can void warranty.

[yfin]

That's merely your opinion. My statement was based on facts ie the warranty book, and my experience.

Unless you can back up your claim with evidence, all I can say is whatever.

No it is not opinion - it is fact. You are wrong. You are providing people here with wrong information and should get your facts right first.

[yfin]

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Publications/Shopping_and_credit/ftc07buyingausedcar.html


Maintenance

Your car should come with a logbook or owner’s handbook that sets out when the vehicle should be serviced and what maintenance needs to be done. If the car is still under warranty and you don’t have it serviced to the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule, you may void the warranty. As long as the service is carried out in accordance with the manufacturer’s specifications, any licensed repairer can do it, not just the dealer from whom you purchased the car. If you don’t have a logbook, ask the repairer or manufacturer to explain what is involved with each type of service and its associated cost.

Motor vehicle repairers

In NSW, repairers must be licensed to work on your car. To hold a licence a repairer must meet criteria contained in the Motor Vehicle Repairs Act 1980. For more information visit www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au (http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au)

[buddah51au]

You need to be licensed to work on a vehicle in every state... eg:

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/About_us/Publications/Shopping_and_credit/ftc07buyingausedcar.html


Maintenance

Your car should come with a logbook or owner’s handbook that sets out when the vehicle should be serviced and what maintenance needs to be done. If the car is still under warranty and you don’t have it serviced to the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule, you may void the warranty. As long as the service is carried out in accordance with the manufacturer’s specifications, any licensed repairer can do it, not just the dealer from whom you purchased the car. If you don’t have a logbook, ask the repairer or manufacturer to explain what is involved with each type of service and its associated cost.

Motor vehicle repairers

In NSW, repairers must be licensed to work on your car. To hold a licence a repairer must meet criteria contained in the Motor Vehicle Repairs Act 1980. For more information visit www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au (http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au)

sorry to inform you that a mechanic does not need to hold a license in QLD

[yfin]

sorry to inform you that a mechanic does not need to hold a license in QLD

fair enough - whether it is by way of licence, registration or trade - however you want to categorise it - one must be a professional qualified mechanic for warranty to be protected anywhere in Australia. The poster appears to be suggesting that Honda must honour a DIY backyard service. This is not correct.

[buddah51au]

Fortunately I have never needed to test out Honda on any warranty issues. I am a Licensed Mechanic & do all my own servicing. But I will say I have never had a problem with the 5 Honda's i have owned.

As for someone who is unlicensed doing there own servicing I guess you would have to weigh up the substantial amount of money you save on service costs against any warranty claims

[nickxau]

Quick question: your first complimentary service is@1,000km and the second scheduled service is@10,000km etc. So if one was to change their oil & filter@5,000km, how's that gonna work? How will Honda know if it was a DIY job or a licenced mechanic's job?

[buddah51au]

Quick question: your first complimentary service is@1,000km and the second scheduled service is@10,000km etc. So if one was to change their oil & filter@5,000km, how's that gonna work? How will Honda know if it was a DIY job or a licenced mechanic's job?

If you keep your lips sealed, use genuine parts only, they won't know. But in saying that you won't have black oil when 10,000km service comes around.

But there is the problem......a 10,000km service costs around $180 to $200. Buying Genuine Oil & filter over the counter costs me $47 bucks, so conservatively I save $130 to $150 every service. It soon adds up.

[HVF00T]

In NSW you only have to be licensed when you want to be employed as a mechanic or earn money repairing cars. You certainly don't need to be licensed to work on your own car.

There are certain items on your car that you can't service yourself such as air bags and LPG tanks and in these cases you must be licensed when repairing those items yourself.

Here is the link: http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tradespeople/Motor_repairers_and_insurers/Licensing.html

I would expect yfin to remove the "incorrect advice" comment in my CP and give himself one.

[Type R Positive]

Sure anyone can change the oil.....
The problem is you need to be licensed if you want to keep your warranty. ;)
Buddah is a mechanic! ;)

[buddah51au]

I guess I am lucky in that area & am able to save considerable $$$$$. @ things i need to do for the CU2 is find the valve clearance, and the location of the fuel filter, but plenty of time for that.

I did my first oil change & filter @ 5,000km and am very keen to go to fully synthetic @ 10,000km. Actually considering weather to use Nulon & support Ausie Made or Mobil 1. The crazy thing is my local dealer said if i don't use Honda FEO (a cheap mineral oil) I will void my warranty & they wont stamp my log book. Something to consider.

Add to that if I use FEO i will change oil & filter every 5,000km, but if I go Synthetic I will revert to 10,000km service intervals. So in that regard it makes me wonder if there is much to gain by going full Synthetic. Have to make a decision soon....lol

[yfin]

In NSW you only have to be licensed when you want to be employed as a mechanic or earn money repairing cars. You certainly don't need to be licensed to work on your own car.

There are certain items on your car that you can't service yourself such as air bags and LPG tanks and in these cases you must be licensed when repairing those items yourself.

Here is the link: http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tradespeople/Motor_repairers_and_insurers/Licensing.html

I would expect yfin to remove the "incorrect advice" comment in my CP and give himself one.

Do you still believe that Honda must honour warranty if an unqualified person does their own oil changes? That is what you were suggesting earlier and that is wrong.

[HVF00T]

Do you still believe that Honda must honour warranty if an unqualified person does their own oil changes? That is what you were suggesting earlier and that is wrong.

I never said unqualified. I said you don't need a license.

A "qualified" person in this case is someone that knows how to remove and replace a sump plug, remove and replace an oil filter, fill an engine with oil and check the level. You don't need to be licensed to do this nor will it void your warranty.

I expect you and others in this forum to use a bit of common sense. If I change my oil, forget to tighten the sump plug properly and the engine seizes, of course I don't expect Honda to cover the repairs under warranty.

But if I change the oil using an API service SL or higher grade oil, fit an OEM Honda oil filter, tighten the sump plug to the correct torque and ensure the oil level is correct, and the engine seizes, I would expect Honda to repair under warranty because a licensed mechanic would have done exactly as I did when changing the oil.

You need to give others in this forum some credit and assume they have some common sense and basic intellect. If some people are not comfortable changing their own oil, then by all means go and pay someone to do it.