Formula 1 2009 season discussion

[GreekWarrior]

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bahrain this weekend woo

[krogoth]

lol

who is that walking with *****milton

[^^v]

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lol



lol

who is that walking with *****milton

Adrian Sutil... apprently they're pretty 'close'..


hmm... i predict the brawns to win bahrain... BUT... expect redbull and toybota 2 be strong...
hopefully we'll see a race WITHOUT the safety car

[chunky]

Adrian Sutil... apprently they're pretty 'close'..



fark thought that was a super model or some shit
googled it
its a fking dude!

[Min988]

lol, lewis is banging the pussy cat doll lead singer dude.

[bo279]

yep hes the toy boy..

[hooyn]

qualifying at 11:45pm tonight.

ffs

[silvia200sx]

It's starting to turn out to be a really good season this year.

No-one can predict a winner; and many upsets to come.

Although I'm an Alonso fan; I stick with him all the way; I feel it's loyal to do so.

But i do appreciate the other teams at the top; it's kind of embarrasing while RBR's using the same engine but Renault is struggling :o
Also Brawns killing it, Mclaren struggling

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

really good qualifying session again... Brawn's slowly losing their advantage!

[Chris_F]

best season ever so far... I can't remember the last time that so many teams had the potential to win

[1900-hustler]

race starts soon woot

[outrun]

GO WEBBER,
bit of a challenge from back in the pack though

[GreekWarrior]

he still only came 11th lol


brawn again bo yeah

[gumbel]

honda chasis wins again

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

Button ftw! :d

[outrun]

i was gonna give up on F1, ts just a fcuking soap opera.
but with the cars being so evenly matched it pretty damn good!

being for the race in Sepang, Malaysia kinda helped....gotta love the sound!!!

[krogoth]

the best thing about this season is seeing ferrari get demolished, stupid fkheads, lol

[1900-hustler]

lol @ bmw sauber .. even force india beat them hahaha

[^^v]

great performance from button... that first lap was crucial... hes so good under breaking.. esp in that 1st corner...
i rememba 2006 when he passed montoya twice in that corner... awsome stuff...

Spain should be interesting... all of the teams will have some sort of major upgrade... DDD
brawn is set to run new front and rear wing... and asymmetric sidepods... rumor has it that one sidepod will be fully closed off...

[GreekWarrior]

massa getting lapped was just embarrassing lol

[Min988]

great performance from button... that first lap was crucial... hes so good under breaking.. esp in that 1st corner...
i rememba 2006 when he passed montoya twice in that corner... awsome stuff...

Spain should be interesting... all of the teams will have some sort of major upgrade... DDD
brawn is set to run new front and rear wing... and asymmetric sidepods... rumor has it that one sidepod will be fully closed off...

DD + KERS = Interesting results.

Brawns pulling rabbits from there magic hat. I'm glad button's achieving whats his been trying to achieve for years, re-watched an old top gear eps (season 8 eps 8(should watch it guys)) and im glad his winning, didn't know who he was back then. LOL at the weber remarks.

[xtercii]

Is F1 broadcasted on any of the TV programs in oz?

[GreekWarrior]

10....

[Min988]

also One HD (ten HD but sport) replay tomorrow in the afternoon i think 5pm (Brisbane)

[hooyn]

watch it on one digital for awesome surround

theyre replaying it on one at 7:30pm tonight as well

[aaronng]

It is very worth it watching on One HD. Much sharper if you have a medium sized (40") TV capable of at least 1080i

[Binny]

as for brawn, i want more info...but it seems that this is basically a 100% honda outfit, except for the merc engines

and i would love to know y brawn decided to go with the MERC engines, prob coz MERC wanted a part of the pwnage car honda had made

i now think that Melb GP results would have been the same if Honda had stayed on board with their F1 team....

Waseem Waseem Waseem, your still a little NUB, it is a well known fact that Brawn (i.e. not honda) chose the famous mercedes engine, because i.) it was a better fit for the chassis and ii.) because they saw last years results of lewis hamilton. As for HONDA they were useless in the f1, and have been for the last 10 years, I think Jenson (CF) Button is also happy that HONDA pulled out and BRAWN took over, before BRAWN he had only ever won one race, and now has trippled that record, personally i am glad honda pulled out to save them from the disgrace they would have had to face by loosing to FORCE INDIA LOL.

[krogoth]

so tell me then why Mclaren are doing shit this year?

[rahul]

Because they have lack of downforce problem which is well documented. Engines arent everything, esp with the no. of engine restrictions these days.

I think the most of the engines from the leading manufacturers (there arent many left!) are pretty much on par in regards to power

If you remember in the late 90's, all the leading teams were coming up with new engine revisions in every couple of races because there were no restrictions.

[krogoth]

^exactly my point

the engines dont have much between them in the end

brawn stuck with the honda chassis because he believed it was a highly competitive setup....why he didnt just stick to Honda engine is a mystery.....could be a financial issue? maybe he could get engines cheaper from Merc, who knows...

brawn is winning because of their Honda chassis........Mclaren and others arent doing so well because they havent caught up in the aerodynamics part of the game

[GreekWarrior]

I dont car what car or driver wins as long as it's not cf

[^^v]

...

brawn stuck with the honda chassis because he believed it was a highly competitive setup....why he didnt just stick to Honda engine is a mystery.....could be a financial issue? maybe he could get engines cheaper from Merc, who knows...

brawn is winning because of their Honda chassis........Mclaren and others arent doing so well because they havent caught up in the aerodynamics part of the game


Honda started developing this (RA109 aka BGP001) chassis about 1.5 years ago... earlier than any other team... quite a strategic move by brawn as this year there is NO on track testing what so ever... and restrictions on wind tunnel testing... so for the teams that r behind atm it'll be a some what more difficult job to catch up...

as for not using the Honda engine... Brawn simply had no say in the matter... Honda pulled out FULLY... which means no engines...
but lets say Honda did stick around.... it was no secret that Honda was down on power (60-80hp) on the top engines (merc.. Ferrari)... which is why the FIA allowed the teams which fell behind on the engine department (mainly Honda and Reanult) to claw back in power... so modifications were allowed between the end of the 08 and prior to the start of the 09 seasons (for the respective teams)...
so in theory the Honda engine would have been on par with the mercs n ferraris.... and in combining it with the current chassis (which was originally designed for the Honda engine) it would have been in the same if not better position than it is now...
and this is not taking into consideration the KERS Honda was developing... dun forget they were the FIRST team to test KERS on track back in early 08...

[dahon]

^ agree with ^^v...
to binny:
hondas chassis development started waaaaaay back and the brawn gp outfit is basically 90% honda developed funds.
they chose the merc engines cos they fit the chassis better than the others they could have gotten BUT ofcourse the chassis would better fit the honda engine..
Chassis design is much more of a factor in winning than engine design.. as u can see in this years races..
honda didnt really suck at the sport for 10 years + as they only acquired BAR in late 2005...
their development just got held back by this economic crisis and you can see that from teams spending considerable amounts of money before and putting their ludicrous funding on hold.. the field is narrowing between the privateers and the works outfits.. if only honda held on for a few more months... they still reap some benefits though as everyone still knows brawn gp is the former honda team.. some publicity for the brand which is what f1 basically is...
hondas previous track record in f1 is quite amazing since they totally dominated in the early 90s...

[Binny]

so tell me then why Mclaren are doing shit this year?

Mclaren arent doing shit, the reason why they arent doing as well as BRAWN is because 1. Honda put off all of the 2007 and 2008 season to make their 2009 chasis, and 2. they only recently put in the infamous rear diffuser 1 day before china. Since then KOV and HAM have finished pretty much top 5. Dont be so cocky with your BRAWN car because this is still pretty much the start of the 09 season. BUT and BAR = CFF (Cptn fkn FAG)

[GreekWarrior]

HEY


I came up with that captain faggot name for hamilton, dont steal it <_<

[krogoth]

Mclaren arent doing shit, the reason why they arent doing as well as BRAWN is because 1. Honda put off all of the 2007 and 2008 season to make their 2009 chasis, and 2. they only recently put in the infamous rear diffuser 1 day before china. Since then KOV and HAM have finished pretty much top 5. Dont be so cocky with your BRAWN car because this is still pretty much the start of the 09 season. BUT and BAR = CFF (Cptn fkn FAG)

im not being cocky

u cant get it in ur head that this is a honda car.....and they are doing well because of honda.......full stop

and im not saying they will be the best forever, and i didnt even mention anything about how much longer this success will last

you said that brawn are doing well because of the Merc engine, and I INSIST that that is complete bs

[tRipitaka]

BUT and BAR = CFF (Cptn fkn FAG)

would you be calling them that if they were coming last in the title chase ?



didn't think so.

i believe barrichello and button both deserve this.. they've been in f1 for a long time, and have dealt with a lot.

brawn have the advantage due to the fact that they started R&D a lot earlier than everyone else.

wait til next year.. when everyone else catches up.

[Rekin]

im not being cocky

u cant get it in ur head that this is a honda car.....and they are doing well because of honda.......full stop

and im not saying they will be the best forever, and i didnt even mention anything about how much longer this success will last

you said that brawn are doing well because of the Merc engine, and I INSIST that that is complete bs



Mercedes-Benz FO108W 2.4 litre V8 engines will be supplied to Brawn GP by Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines, and will be installed into a modified Honda RA109 chassis.

Testing of the cars will commence in Barcelona from March 9-12 and continue in Jerez a few days later before the Brawn GP team heads Downunder for the opening round at Albert Park.
Source: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22733/sold-hondas-f1-outfit-snapped-up-by-former-team-principal/

Keyword there is modified, unless you show proof that it is 100% untouched chassis and all they did was drop in a motor, you cannot claim it to be all honda's work.

After all, I find it hard to believe after spending millions of dollars, 2yrs of production to call it quits at the last minute if they believed they had a winning chassis...You would think they would at least try and get in a race or keep their badge if everything was 100% perfect...

Modifications were taken place to fit the Merc engine and you cant rule out any other modifications happened between March and start of GP.

[krogoth]

even if any mods were done, they were done by the HONDA TEAM..........

The whole BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM

so those mods were done by HONDA

and why is it so hard for u two ****s to give Honda a bit of credit....

all that happend between the end of last year and the start of this year was a name change and a different engine which would not have made a damn difference

[^^v]

Source: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22733/sold-hondas-f1-outfit-snapped-up-by-former-team-principal/

Keyword there is modified, unless you show proof that it is 100% untouched chassis and all they did was drop in a motor, you cannot claim it to be all honda's work.

After all, I find it hard to believe after spending millions of dollars, 2yrs of production to call it quits at the last minute if they believed they had a winning chassis...You would think they would at least try and get in a race or keep their badge if everything was 100% perfect...

Modifications were taken place to fit the Merc engine and you cant rule out any other modifications happened between March and start of GP.

At the end of the 08 season they knew that next years car was going to be 'competitive'... key word there.. 'competitive'... but i dont think they were expecting THIS much of a competitive car ... ie melbourne and sepang... they pretty much walked away with the win...

Ross brawn himself stated that he was 'suprized' the others wernt quicker... so by no means did Honda have prior knowledge to the extreme pace the car showed during the first few races... if they had known then MAYBE they would have stayed.... but frankly its all about the bottom line... which is why Honda left...
Hondas share price actually went up on the announcement on their leaving F1...

Oh and development was halted on this car as soon as word of Hondas departure came to light... hence why NO upgrades were placed on the car during the first flyaway races...the only thing changed to the car was modifying it for the merc block.... Ferrari was an option but ross decided with the merc as it maited with the chassis better... but by no means was it a perfect fit... (which is why they had rear suspension issues in China... something to do the merc block inteferring with the travel)...

Although on paper its a BRAWN GP chassis... Honda had considerable input into its development.... and theres no denying that...

[Binny]

I totally agree with rekin (AKA PAT ZOMBIE), waseem u fkn NOOOB if honda put their WAP (weak as piss) engine onto their chasis they wouldnt be a quarter as good as BRAWN, the HONDA engine in the f1 car was (60-70 hp) off the ferrari and merc engines, so that means every time the HONDA would have used KERS they would be pushing same power as ferrari and mclaren without,this was a major factor to HONDA being such a hopeless team for the last 10-15 years :thumbdwn:.

[Binny]

even if any mods were done, they were done by the HONDA TEAM..........

The whole BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM

so those mods were done by HONDA

and why is it so hard for u two ****s to give Honda a bit of credit....

all that happend between the end of last year and the start of this year was a name change and a different engine which would not have made a damn difference

BRAWN doesn't = HONDA, If you read the quote without being so fkn CLOSE MINDED, you will understand that BRAWN made modifications to the chasis and not HONDA, HONDA gave them the RA109 chassis and BRAWN modified it. BRAWN doesnt = HONDA because BRAWN is a new team, ROSS BRAWN is a legend of the game, and he was not working at HONDA F1 team, they arent just wining because of their car it because ROSS BRAWN is such a 1337zor, BUTTON didn't win Bahrain because of his car, he won because of ROSS BRAWN startegy which you would know if you even watched the race. Had the RA109 chassis been fitted with the HONDA engine and no ROSS BRAWN their wouldn't be a difference HONDA wouldn't be winning. The most major modification that was done to the 2009 f1 cars was the rear diffuser, which ROSS BRAWN fitted himself, HONDA's original chassis didn't consist of the controvericial rear diffuser and it was ROSS BRAWN himself who decided to fit it onto the BRAWN mercedes car.

[Binny]

even if any mods were done, they were done by the HONDA TEAM..........

The whole BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM

so those mods were done by HONDA

and why is it so hard for u two ****s to give Honda a bit of credit....

all that happend between the end of last year and the start of this year was a name change and a different engine which would not have made a damn difference

I dont mind giving HONDA a bit of credit, but i do mind when stupid retards like you give them full credit, WHAT MODS were made by HONDA? you don't know shit you have just started watching f1 and your still a NUB so stfu and watch for a few seasons before you talk shit.

[krogoth]

wow...what a hypocrite

First u quote rekin who is just as new to F1 as i am.....first stupidity, and u quoted him without even reading the article in the link he pasted.....2nd stupidity

You dont even read what any of the other members post, and I'm close minded??

Brawn was employed by Honda F1 Team in NOVEMBER of 07, when Honda had probably already made the decision to give up on development for the 08 season because of the 09 regulation changes

Honda had run into big financial problems, so they cut back completley from F1 and didnt want anything to do with F1 at all by the end of 08, so the chassis name was changed and the engine was taken out when Brawn who was ALREADY the TEAM PRINCIPAL at honda

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22733/sold-hondas-f1-outfit-snapped-up-by-former-team-principal/

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63900

As said by ^^v


Honda started developing this (RA109 aka BGP001) chassis about 1.5 years ago... earlier than any other team... quite a strategic move by brawn as this year there is NO on track testing what so ever... and restrictions on wind tunnel testing... so for the teams that r behind atm it'll be a some what more difficult job to catch up...

as for not using the Honda engine... Brawn simply had no say in the matter... Honda pulled out FULLY... which means no engines...
but lets say Honda did stick around.... it was no secret that Honda was down on power (60-80hp) on the top engines (merc.. Ferrari)... which is why the FIA allowed the teams which fell behind on the engine department (mainly Honda and Reanult) to claw back in power... so modifications were allowed between the end of the 08 and prior to the start of the 09 seasons (for the respective teams)...
so in theory the Honda engine would have been on par with the mercs n ferraris.... and in combining it with the current chassis (which was originally designed for the Honda engine) it would have been in the same if not better position than it is now...
and this is not taking into consideration the KERS Honda was developing... dun forget they were the FIRST team to test KERS on track back in early 08...

SO if Honda had remained at least the engine supplier to Brawn, Brawn had the Green light to proceed in re-development of the engine

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/honda-hails-engine-performance-equalization-2142.html

Honda didnt concentrate as much on the engine side of development and fell behind a few years ago, then when the engine freeze rule was implemented they couldnt do anymore and remained some 30hp or so behind the top teams


But Honda pulled out completley, so Brawn decided to INvest his own money into the team that he was managing at Honda because he believed in it.......once he bought the team off Honda, evry1 moved to the Brawn Team, there was not one change to any of the engineers, designers, pit crew, drivers....NOTHING.....SO it was essentially a HONDA TEAM under the BRAWN Name the modified the chassis to FIT THE MERC ENGINE

Had honda stayed as the engine supplier to Brawn, it left their ex-honda team(BRAWN) 3months+ to get another 30+hp out of the honda engine, So this is entirely a honda team, entirely a honda chassis, with a MERC engine that produces as much as the Honda engine could have

So u just got wrecked by som1 new to F1...get back ontop of Hamiltons ****...

[Binny]

wow...what a hypocrite

First u quote rekin who is just as new to F1 as i am.....first stupidity, and u quoted him without even reading the article in the link he pasted.....2nd stupidity

You dont even read what any of the other members post, and I'm close minded??

Brawn was employed by Honda F1 Team in NOVEMBER of 07, when Honda had probably already made the decision to give up on development for the 08 season because of the 09 regulation changes

Honda had run into big financial problems, so they cut back completley from F1 and didnt want anything to do with F1 at all by the end of 08, so the chassis name was changed and the engine was taken out when Brawn who was ALREADY the TEAM PRINCIPAL at honda

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/22733/sold-hondas-f1-outfit-snapped-up-by-former-team-principal/

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63900

As said by ^^v



SO if Honda had remained at least the engine supplier to Brawn, Brawn had the Green light to proceed in re-development of the engine

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/honda-hails-engine-performance-equalization-2142.html

Honda didnt concentrate as much on the engine side of development and fell behind a few years ago, then when the engine freeze rule was implemented they couldnt do anymore and remained some 30hp or so behind the top teams


But Honda pulled out completley, so Brawn decided to INvest his own money into the team that he was managing at Honda because he believed in it.......once he bought the team off Honda, evry1 moved to the Brawn Team, there was not one change to any of the engineers, designers, pit crew, drivers....NOTHING.....SO it was essentially a HONDA TEAM under the BRAWN Name the modified the chassis to FIT THE MERC ENGINE

Had honda stayed as the engine supplier to Brawn, it left their ex-honda team(BRAWN) 3months+ to get another 30+hp out of the honda engine, So this is entirely a honda team, entirely a honda chassis, with a MERC engine that produces as much as the Honda engine could have


Your Hopeless you know that, Ross Brawn has been working on developing and improving the chassis and didn't work on the engine because they had the mercedes, do you seriously think you can pull 60-70hp (i.e. not 30hp...)out of a honda engine without jeapordising the modifications on the chassis mainly the rear diffuser? HONDA's original chassis didn't come with the rear diffuser and ROSS BRAWN decided to put it on himself, HONDA originally went with the KERS system, that ROSS BRAWN didn't like. As for Rekin being as new to f1 as you, thats a load of horse shit, i have been talking to Pat Zombie about f1 and kubica for the last 2 years when you didn't even know where Raikennen raced for NUB. If the engines are meaningless, then why is it that you have to state the engine after the name? its because they are essentiall to a good car Hondas last engine was renouned for hardly finishing the race...

[^^v]

I dont mind giving HONDA a bit of credit, but i do mind when stupid retards like you give them full credit, WHAT MODS were made by HONDA? you don't know shit you have just started watching f1 and your still a NUB so stfu and watch for a few seasons before you talk shit.
....

what u mean 'what mods were made by honda'.... they designed the entire chassis.... like i said... there was NO developments after Honda pulled out and the start of the 09 season... the ONLY thing they did was modify (which actually hindered the performance) the gearbox and suspension to fit the merc block... thats it...

Im not dissing merc ... they prolly got the best engine on the grid... BUT u cant solely say coz of the merc engine and modifications Brawn GP made to the chassis that they're suddenly flying and that Honda F1 had negligible input into the chassis development....

F1 simply doesnt work that way... u dont just bolt on a part and ur suddenly @ the front... everything has to work as a package...
i mean if u look @ the developments comming for barcelona... they got a new front wing... new rear wing... totally different sidepods (asymetric)... n all that is roughly gona give them 0.3 seconds a lap...


bottom line is Honda had 95% involvement in the development of this chassis.... they're even bankrolling the team this year (reportedly $150million was given to brawn gp for the continuation of the season)....

[krogoth]

Your Hopeless you know that, Ross Brawn has been working on developing and improving the chassis and didn't work on the engine because they had the mercedes, do you seriously think you can pull 60-70hp (i.e. not 30hp...)out of a honda engine without jeapordising the modifications on the chassis mainly the rear diffuser? HONDA's original chassis didn't come with the rear diffuser and ROSS BRAWN decided to put it on himself, HONDA originally went with the KERS system, that ROSS BRAWN didn't like. As for Rekin being as new to f1 as you, thats a load of horse shit, i have been talking to Pat Zombie about f1 and kubica for the last 2 years when you didn't even know where Raikennen raced for NUB. If the engines are meaningless, then why is it that you have to state the engine after the name? its because they are essentiall to a good car Hondas last engine was renouned for hardly finishing the race...

What a piss weak reply

You know nothing about Brawn or Honda, u just go by ur fan boy band waggoning propaganda that Hamilton fans go by

You cant get it in ur fkn head that this is still the SAME HONDA TEAM, EVERY SINGLE FKN ELEMENT OF THE TEAM IS IDENTICAL except for the engine

YES i admit, the MERC engine is BETTER, but IF Brawn was given the choice he may have stuck with the Honda engine and try to get another 30 to 60hp(not all engines are as powerful as ferrari and mclaren) and get it up to the same level as the most powerful teams

And YES it was BRAWN who made the controversial Diffuser, but BRAWN BEING the TEAM PRINCIPAL at HONDA would have made the same diffuser regardless of whether he was working for honda or for himself

"Honda said Brawn will have full responsibility for designing, manufacturing, and engineering the team's car."

And how do u know what modifications would have to be made to get the improved Honda engine to fit the chassis? Engines have very limited dimensions and tolerances to work with........

AS for KERS, Brawn being the Team principal had the choice of whether to use it or dump it......

[^^v]

regarding the diffuser...
it was actually a Honda aerodynamsists that came up with the idea.... but he soon moved to toyota... and in doin so gave Toyota the idea and in turn toyota palmed it off to Williams..

For DD Diffuser to work... the whole under body has to work with the concept not to mention the gearbox and rear crash structures... u cant just bolt on the diffuser and go .5 secs quicker.... if that was the case then every single team would have it by now.... the reason why Ferrari BMW and co havent got it yet is coz it requires MAJOR changes to the underbody... the none diffuser teams r practically bringing out a B sepec car for Barcelona

not taking anything away from the team or Brawn... but if we need to get nitty gritty into the facts... then it IS a Honda chassis by design.... anyone who disagrees with that notion obviously isnt well informed...

EDIT: http://realbrawngp.com (http://realbrawngp.com/)

really good site to keep up to date with the team and info... they usually have news and information before any other site regarding the team...
theres also a few ppl who are connected to the team around that forum..

[GreekWarrior]

punch onz f-onez stylez

[^^v]

lulz...

[Binny]

I agree with you ^^v but Krogoth is states in one of his arguments, that there was a possibillity that merrcedes asked honda if they could put the engine in to their car to be a part of the PWNAGE???? this quote is what really got me angry what stupif fk in their right mind would think that, a car company would ask you to use their multi-million dollar engine to be a part of the team, let me guess soon krogoth will believe that they asked force india to put the engine in their car also...., I agree that honda have made the chassis, but their have been modifications made to it under BRAWNS authority, as for getting another 60 -70 hp (not 30hp again ffs) off the existing HONDA engine, i find it hard to believe that they could do it in three months they spent almost 2 years making their 2009 car wouldn't they have already had the engine, its just hard to believe that they spend 2 years making their 2009 car and leave the engine for 3 months.... yea right, so had honda stayed on they wouldn't have gone with the Mercedes engine and hence would have been 60-70hp down, and hence not be doing as well. Even Jenson Button has said that most teams have caught up to BRAWN in the aerodynamics part, and that they dont have the edge over the rest like they did in the first two races. Jenson didn't win Bahrain because he's car was better than the rest, it was because their strategy just panned out as the planned, luckily for them, and anybody would know that had they watched the race (i.e. krogoth).

[krogoth]

look at u on the rags over what i said about the Merc wanting to be a part of the Honda chassis

Sure, why not? A smart company sees a good chassis and spots a healthy investment oppurtunity, why wouldnt they offer their assistance to Brawn?

I'm not saying thats what happend, but its definetley a possibility(ie that there was a possibility that MERC asked BRAWN, not honda, dont put words in my mouth u fk head)

You still cant get it in your fat fukn head.....the BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME

BRAWN was in charge before, and he is in charge NOW, no fkn difference

If honda had not pulled out, this is how it would have played out

1. Since FIA gave Honda and Renault permission to continue development on their engine at the end of the 08 season, they had 3 months to get a power increase

NOW READ THIS PART CAREFULLY, I have spelt it out before MANY TIMES, but ur dumb fkn head seems to always miss it

30hp, should be easily attainable without too much messing around

60-70hp, possible but difficult to attain in 3 months

2. SINCE Brawn was still at Honda and being the TEAM PRINCIPAL and the big guy in CHARGE OF EVERYTHING

He could do whatever he liked, so, had honda stayed, the same controversial diffuser would have been brought in and the decision to run KERRS or not was still in Brawns hand.

3. Strategy is what won the race in Bahrain, I never said it wasnt a factor u stupid simple minded word spinning dickhead

Sure it was a factor that Brawns experience and strategey help his team win races.....but Brawn would have still been there and made the same decisions under the Honda name

4. YES the MERC engine is one of the best in the game....it is a fkn mad engine

It is at least 60hp more powerful than the honda engine in the 08 design, So the MERC engine is a significant factor in Brawns results

BUT had HONDA stayed, they had enough time to improve their engine to a level that would not have been far behind the MERC engine since they wer allowed to continue development

Now U stop being a close minded dickhead, and stop twisting my words, and IT IS MY FKN OPINION that IF HONDA had stayed the same results would have occured

So **** off ur high horse and dont attack me because u disagree with my opinion u fkn dumbass









Disclaimer: i know the user binny personally, we would not hesitate to argue in this rude manner with each other face to face, though i insist he started the shit stirring first, the fkn kunt

[^^v]

verdicts out on the Maccas 'lie-gate' saga...
3 race 'suspended' ban... so in other words they're free to go unless further facts arises or if they decide to lie again to the FIA within the next 12 months....

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090429130356.shtml

[Lewis_Hamilton]

Hey guys its me Lewis Hamilton.

Looks lets face it, it is a combination of engines AND chassis that win races.

Look at the 08 season, when the back of field were running Ferrari engines and coming dead last, and when some teams were running the Renault motor and winning races.

Could Honda have worked on a winning CHASSIS and ENGINE combination? No one will know. It is ignorant to assume so. If we look back to previous seasons, and in fact history, an educated, unbiased guess would be clearly no. Unless you look till Honda's first year in Honda, they have not won a championship using their own engine/chassis combination. (It was either their inaugural year, or sometime long ago).

I think many out there are missing the point of a F1 teams. Regardless if it raced or developed under a factory, it is just an entity, a name. Ultimately, this will boil down to how long is a piece of string...

Honda started developing the car early 2007/late 2008. In December, effective immediately, Honda racing as a team no longer existed. Then in February Ross Brawn began hes control of operations.

Now, Ross Brawn was hired in 2007, so you could say it was a Brawn car from then, but the car, the factory, the group of engineers came under the entity Honda. Following me so far?

Then Brawn took over operations and for a month, lets assume 2 modifications were made to the car. Do not forget for one second that 1.5 mm adjustment to the front wing makes the world of difference in wet races. Is it the original Honda car? Not entirely. Perhaps if we argued over percentages: 50&#37; Mercedes, 1% Brawn, 49% Honda? Just like when Prodrive brought Glenn Seton Racing and renamed it FPV and MADE modification to the chassis engine, even tho it was the same team members, just a different name, it becomes the FPV car. How long is a piece of string?

What I'm getting at essentially is that its just an entity. I have a (strong) feeling that Honda supporters, especially on this forum are grasping so tight to this name sake for pride and nothing else. Whilst is it probably healthy, I would imagine everyone abandoning this "Honda" car had it been finishing last.

Long and tiresome? Of course.

Nick Fry has said that they are looking for title sponsors. Might not even be a "Brawn" car for long either...

[krogoth]

ok fair enough u make ur point

i hope this isnt som1 else posting up with a different username...

[Binny]

+1, couldn't have said it better myself, as meatloaf would say "you took the words right out of my mouth".

[GreekWarrior]

gg captian faggot, you ****ed team mclaren

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9281.html

[^^v]

Hey guys its me Lewis Hamilton.



i loled...

[Binny]

gg captian faggot, you ****ed team mclaren

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9281.html

Hey dude its a suspended 3 race ban, that means he can race but if mclaren does something in the next 12 months to bring the sport into dissrepute then and only then will they recieve the three race ban. btw Lewis Hamilton was told to lie by mclaren so they kind of fk'd themselves up. epic nub much?

[Binny]

What a piss weak reply

You know nothing about Brawn or Honda, u just go by ur fan boy band waggoning propaganda that Hamilton fans go by

"Honda said Brawn will have full responsibility for designing, manufacturing, and engineering the team's car."

AS for KERS, Brawn being the Team principal had the choice of whether to use it or dump it......

So I am a BW (band waggoner), I have gone for Lewis Hamilton since his fkn debut race in 2007 and i am a BW, youre the fkn one who just took an interest in f1 because some team called BRAWN GP which has a honda chassis, is PWNING.... I agree with Lewis "I would imagine everyone abandoning this "Honda" car had it been finishing last." and espescially you.

"Honda said Brawn will have full responsibility for designing, manufacturing, and engineering the team's car." really, did they? I thought ROSS BRAWN had no choice in what engine went into the chassis, yet he had full responsibillity? this is a quote from you "HONDA gave BRAWN no choice in what engine to put in the RA109 chassis, they wanted to get the **** out of F1 due to insufficient funds", so they dont let him use their engine but they let him use their chassis hmm puzzling :rolleyes:.

[krogoth]

cbf with ur dumb shit

i already explained this to u

[Binny]

cbf with ur dumb shit

i already explained this to u

hardly, your comment was, "honda didn't want to put engine in because it would cost too much and hence the team would be called BRAWN HONDA", which is wrong, Honda would profit if Ross Brawn put the Honda Engine in it because he would have had to pay for it, the reason why he didn't choose it is because its a POS box.

Check and Mate. :honda:

[krogoth]

ok i agree with you 100&#37;

you are correct

[^^v]

check this out rofl...

http://community.livejournal.com/ti_sportsshorts/26906.html




Jenson Button is like the really ugly girl at school
Posted by Simon Rice

* Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:29 pm

Jenson Button's new found success is like turning up at a school reunion and finding that the girl you ignored all those years at school has turned into the most beautiful girl in the class.

Grand Prix races have their beautiful woman, Bernie Ecclestone has his tall women and all schools have their ugly girl. She may have worn glasses, read a few too many books or wore the wrong coloured socks - whatever it was, your school will have had one.

You couldn't be seen with her. To talk to her was forbidden. For fear of wedgy, bog flush or Chinese burn you stayed clear.

Instead, you spent your time pursuing the popular girl, the one who grabbed all the attention. You may have thought you were in love, but like most youthful romances, your heart would inevitably be broken.

Her popularity would go to her head. She would start to hang with the wrong crowd (like P Diddy), think nothing of the odd lie here or there and in the end, she would simply leave these shores for somewhere like Switzerland.

And then you turn up at this reunion and kick yourself. You had forgotten all about her but that ugly girl who kept herself to herself has become the greatest catch of all. Before you know it you find yourself becoming her new biggest fan.

The problem is, you can't help but feel that the years of neglect when you wouldn't give her the time of day have rendered your new found adulation very hollow

[Min988]

check this out rofl...

http://community.livejournal.com/ti_sportsshorts/26906.html

He still looks like an ugly girl, he needs to shave the stupid beard of his off. Go button.

[GreekWarrior]

Hey dude its a suspended 3 race ban, that means he can race but if mclaren does something in the next 12 months to bring the sport into dissrepute then and only then will they recieve the three race ban. btw Lewis Hamilton was told to lie by mclaren so they kind of fk'd themselves up. epic nub much?

just like he held up alonso 2 years ago lol


I know it's suspend but he's still cf


oh and I forgot when mclaren stole ferrari's shit haha

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

IMO i think the whole Ross Brawn team, Honda, Mercedes story was fabricated from day one by everyone that is involved and especially the media. The fairytale story is very much to me, a 'fairytale'! I always thought that it was a strange move for Ross Brawn to join the Honda Racing F1 team who were a low performing team, coming from Ferrari who were a front-running squad. Joining Honda for a new "challenge" perhaps...? I don't think so, his too smart and cunning for that. But perhaps for the bigger picture, the very reason that he would eventually have his own F1 team, in meaning Honda had prior knowledge that they would abandon F1 in the very near future. The Mercedes deal most likely went down long before aswell then what the media has stated... I find it difficult to believe that they could mate and heavily modify the Mercedes engine to the RA109 chassis in such a haste period considering the difference in dynamics, weight, distribution, etc.

David Coulthard said he spoke to Button over the winter about Honda pulling out, and if he had a drive etc. and Button apparently was happy, and didn't look worried at all. Like he knew everything would work out. Kind of strange since it was the period where there was uncertainty surrounding the team.

Everything happens for a reason, they don't just happen.. they're planned that way!

BTW, i have no evidence or facts to back my theory.. it is simply my theory! lol I just don't believe everything the lame media throws...

anyways... SPAIN!!! :) BRAWN GP FTW....

[1900-hustler]

conspiracy theory!!

Haha but for this race id like to see alonso come on top

[^^v]

i expect alonso to take pole.. and stop on lap 2...

fight will be between the Brawns n Toybotas.....

Jenson is complaining about the balance... but hopefully they'll get that sorted before Q1...

This could be Rubens' race...

[GreekWarrior]

nah vettel for pole

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

wo0o0ohhh... Button on pole again!!!

[GreekWarrior]

just...lol

[^^v]

FFFUUU... Ferrari have made gains this round....
fuel corrected they're not too far off the front running pace...

10kg of fuel is roughly worth arnd .3s a lap arnd this track...

Barcelona - Qualifying Weight (kg)
1 . F. Alonso - Renault R29 - 645.0
2 . J.
Click here to find out more!
Button - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 646.0
3 . T. Glock - Toyota TF109 - 646.5
4 . R. Barrichello - Brawn Mercedes BGP 001 - 649.5
5 . M. Webber - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 651.5
6 . S. Vettel - Red Bull Renault RB5 - 651.5
7 . F. Massa - Ferrari F60 - 655.0
8 . J. Trulli - Toyota TF109 - 655.5
9 . G. Fisichella - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 656.0 *
10 . H. Kovalainen - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 657.0 *
11 . R. Kubica - BMW Sauber F1.09 - 660.0
12 . N. Rosberg - Williams Toyota FW31 - 668.0
13 . S. Bourdais - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 669.0 *
14 . K. Raikkonen - Ferrari F60 - 673.0 *
15 . A. Sutil - Force India Mercedes VJM02 - 675.0 *
16 . N. Heidfeld - BMW Sauber F1.09 - 676.3 *
17 . K. Nakajima - Williams Toyota FW31 - 676.6 *
18 . N. Piquet - Renault R29 - 677.4 *
19 . S. Buemi - Toro Rosso Ferrari STR4 - 678.0 *
20 . L. Hamilton - McLaren Mercedes MP4-24 - 683.0 *

[1900-hustler]

ohhh shiz here we gooooo..

[1900-hustler]

wowwserz what a crash lol

[GreekWarrior]

webbers a mad man

[1900-hustler]

yeah what a move aye..

[1900-hustler]

oh ffs webber has the worst luck lol

[GreekWarrior]

he's up in 3rd tho now

[1900-hustler]

^^ oh wait i take that back lol

Cmon double brawn failure haha

[1900-hustler]

loooolllll massa and ferrari hahahahaha

[GreekWarrior]

lol at massa having to save fuel at the end



man did you notice that cf crossed the finish line a lap down when button did, suck shit cf haha

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

Brawn dominating... yup yup!!!

anyone else think team orders came into play? Rubens just seemed to drop right off the pace after the first stint to the convenience of Button!

[GreekWarrior]

maybe..but didnt you hear that they change buttons strategy after the safety car?

probably to help him win, because rubens said he was disappointed after he heard that during the race

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

yeah man... but because the teams are actually not allowed to issue team orders, the teams just do it discreetly. Even though I support JB, RB should've had that win IMO... Though no credit taken away from JB!

I tell you what though, supporting the Brackley squad from B.A.R Honda, to Honda Racing F1, to BRAWN GP is finally paying off! About time we had some victories... lol :)

Oh, and when Smedley was telling Massa to conserve his fuel, and Massa's flipping out.. Thought Smedley was gonna say "Felipe baby, stay koool!!" again. lol GG!

[krogoth]

^lol @ filipe baby stay cool

and **** button, rubens should hav won barca

[1900-hustler]

yeah imo that was barra's race..

none the less good job by brawn.. i hope later on though they dont start executing 'team orders'

nice drive by webber too..

[^^v]

i call bullshit on the team orders theory...

basically buttons was switched to a two stopper so that he would avoid Rosberg.... if he had continued on with a 3 stopper.. he woulda come out right behind rosberg (who was on a much longer stint)... n hence woulda held him up...

for one reason or another Rubens just didnt slam in the lap times when required.. if he had.. he woulda come out comfortably infront of button...

not taking anything away from Rubens... but i dun think the team deliberately favoured button... well not @ this stage of the season anyway...
u gota take into account that there is competition within the team too.. between Jensons crew and Rubens' crew...

[Min988]

Missed this one, whens the replay on ONE HD?

[GreekWarrior]

Felipe baby!!!!!!

lmao

[MRFIT]

Ferrari really need to get their act together..... ffs....

Is Webber ever going to win a race? man, feel for the man...

[GreekWarrior]

he was starting to catch rubens at the end of the race.


I say he's got it in him, but imo if he's going to win he needs to get pole in qualy

[Binny]

Felipe Massa is a fkn tool, he held up Sebastian Vettel for the whole race, and when he was 18s in front of Alonso (10-13 laps to go) his team tell him to race economically (i.e. short shifts) he ignores them and keeps holding up vettel until 4 laps, when he decides to start driving economically to save fuel so he didn't have to pit again. Fkn stupidest decision ever I fkn hate Massa so fkn much fkn tool, If only the stupid fk didn't have KERS Vettel would have won the race. After Vettel passed he was 2-3s faster than Jenson Button. If only. Good win by Brawn GP i rkn BAR was robbed and Brawn haxed the race so BUT won. pretty rat.

[EGB18CT]

just watching the motorsport news on one hd.. they were saying ferrari are pulling out of next years f1 for the first time in 60 years due to the budget restrictions imposed by the FIA, what a bunch of pussies.

[GreekWarrior]

lol you serious?


I heard something about if the rules dont change that toyota are pulling out as well

[EGB18CT]

its not confirmed but it looks like they will, i think its an excuse to take time out redevelop a car and come back like brawn style!

anyway this is what omnisport tv had just said (euro sport show)

[strider]

ai i saw it too

ferrari will pull out if the rules changes stay

[krogoth]

omfg

if ferrari quit next year..............they will prove that they are the biggest bunch of ****headed kunts in the world

links please

i will reserve any further judgement

[^^v]

all politics boys...

theres not way Bernie will let this happen...

the main gripe the teams have is with the 'two tier' system... meaning the guys on the voluntary 40mil pound budget caps will have much more freedoms in car development... while the un-budgeted teams will be hugely restricted...

so far Red Bull... Toyota... Ferarri have said they'd pull out.... n BMW ..Renault.. n Merc mite too... if the rules for 2010 stay...

the only teams that will probably stay are Williams...Force India.. and Brawn...



but theres no way Mr Bernie will let Ferarri (not to mention the manufacturers) quit...
the most likely scenario is that the rules WILL be changed for 2010....

so we can all relax....



EDIT: btw... i think MAX MOSLEY should be shot... hes totally ruining the sport... i reckon hes out to destroy F1... its just ridiculous the shit hes been pulling outa his ass lately (rule changes etc)...

[^^v]

another thing to note... Raikkonen commented in Barcelona that he will quit the sport next year (if the 2010 rules stick)... his comments were "this isnt F1"... n i agree 100&#37; with him....

fkn Max Mosley... i hate that cu*t with a passion...


http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090512175405.shtml


Ferrari's Board of Directors, chaired by Luca di Montezemolo, held a meeting on Tuesday at their Maranello headquarters to discuss business matters, but high on the order were the recent decisions taken by the FIA's World Motor Sport Council regarding the controversial budget cap option beginning next year.

Under the 2010 regulations, teams opting to limit their budgets to 45 million Euros ($60m US) would enjoy much greater technical freedom than other teams, effectively creating a 'two-tier' series within Formula One.

Many teams find the matter unacceptable as it currently stands, and the FIA's deadline of May 29th in order to file entries for the 2010 championship only added pressure to an already volatile situation with some teams speaking of boycotts.

Today Ferrari has boldly stated that, unless common ground can be found, it will retire from Formula One at the end of the current season.

Speaking of the WMSC decisions, a Ferrari statement indicated that "for the first time ever in Formula 1, the 2010 season will see the introduction of two different sets of regulations based on arbitrary technical rules and economic parameters."

"The Board considers that if this is the regulatory framework for Formula 1 in the future, then the reasons underlying Ferrari's uninterrupted participation in the World Championship over the last 60 years – the only constructor to have taken part ever since its inception in 1950 – would come to a close."

A long-standing point of conflict has been the FIA's tendency to move ahead with its plans without – from the teams' point of view – taking the considerations forwarded by the teams under serious review.

"The Board also expressed its disappointment about the methods adopted by the FIA in taking decisions of such a serious nature and its refusal to effectively reach an understanding with constructors and teams," the Ferrari press release continued.
Click here to find out more!


"The rules of governance that have contributed to the development of Formula 1 over the last 25 years have been disregarded, as have the binding contractual obligations between Ferrari and the FIA itself regarding the stability of the regulations."

The Formula One Teams Association is not against the principle of budget capping but many teams have been lobbying against the 'two-tier' system on the basis that the sport, like any sport, should have identical regulations for everyone involved. Now Ferrari calls for a change in the way F1 is governed as well.

"The same rules for all teams, stability of regulations, the continuity of the FOTA's endeavours to methodically and progressively reduce costs, and governance of Formula 1 are the priorities for the future," Ferrari affirm.

"If these indispensable principles are not respected and if the regulations adopted for 2010 will not change, then Ferrari does not intend to enter its cars in the next Formula 1 World Championship."

"Ferrari trusts that its many fans worldwide will understand that this difficult decision is coherent with the Scuderia's approach to motor sport and to Formula 1 in particular, always seeking to promote its sporting and technical values. The Chairman of the Board of Directors was mandated to evaluate the most suitable ways and methods to protect the company's interests," the statement concludes.

Daniel BASTIEN
&#169; CAPSIS International

[Binny]

omfg

if ferrari quit next year..............they will prove that they are the biggest bunch of ****headed kunts in the world

links please

i will reserve any further judgement

They arent just leaving because of the salary cap, its because of all the stupid fkn changes (i.e. they want to get rid of re-fuelling.....), and there is a breach in contract with the FIA which states there in untill 2012 and in this time there can't be a salary cap, Its not just ferrari its also Toyota.

I agree with ferrari though WTF is with all this BS changes F1 is good as it is no need to make such fkn drastic changes. A salary cap to even the playing field????? wtf TOYOTA, HONDA, BMW make as much or even more money than ferrari does but doesn't invest as much as them into f1, thats their problem they can afford to spend as much money as ferrari on their f1 car but decide not to, and instead choose to spend it on other competitions (i.e. Nascar etc...).

I rkn Ferrari are bluffing but toyota i don't know, ferarri have said this once before in 1986 when they said they would pull out enter le mans instead, but the FIA and ferrari worked something out.

Max Mosly needs to hold the fk up, and stop changing so much fkn shit, the fkn NAZI Rapist needs to fkn resign. I shouldn't be so harsh consodering his son just died last week on overdosage of drugs but I am not happy JAN.

[Binny]

What ferrari is doing is good, I agree with them, It sort of forces the FIA to stop making such drastic changes, if the salary cap goes through and ferrari don't participate next year, GG to f1, can you imagine how many MUZZA'S wont have a team to support, how many supporters will stop watching, I like ferrari's stance on this, IF WE GO DOWN YOUR COMING WITH US.

[krogoth]

lol 60million is what most teams spend on designing the front spoiler

[^^v]

What ferrari is doing is good, I agree with them, It sort of forces the FIA to stop making such drastic changes, if the salary cap goes through and ferrari don't participate next year, GG to f1, can you imagine how many MUZZA'S wont have a team to support, how many supporters will stop watching, I like ferrari's stance on this, IF WE GO DOWN YOUR COMING WITH US.

its true... F1 will lose a huge amount of viewers... im not talkin bout the die hard fans ... but the every day joe blow that switchs on the tele when the aust gp is on to watch Ferarri...
if u ask everyday ppl what team they support.. most likely than not most of em will be on the Ferarri bandwagon...

no Ferarri + manafactuers = gg F1

all the above is exactly why Bernie will not let this happen..

[aaronng]

lol 60million is what most teams spend on designing the front spoiler

Nah, that's for the locknut that they use.

[^^v]

FOTA (Formula One Team Association) showing that they mean business....
Renault next...
lets hope this is a reality check for Max..
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090513091215.shtml


Renault could be the next car manufacturer to threaten to quit Formula One at the end of 2009.

Ferrari, F1's oldest and most famous name, sent the specialist and mainstream media into a spin on Tuesday by announcing that the FIA's budget cap plans for 2010 will lead to its withdrawal from the sport.

Toyota and Red Bull have made similar threats, while Mario Theissen said last week that the new regime would likely lead to the BMW board reassessing its commitment to F1.
Click here to find out more!


Le Figaro is a leading French morning daily, and it claims: "According to our information, Renault will announce the same decision (as Ferrari's) on Wednesday."

Source: GMM
&#169; CAPSIS International

[Binny]

GG F1 if this goes through. Max you need to wake the fk up, ferrari spent $600m AUD last year on their formula one car and you want to bring it down to ~ $100m AUD???? No refueling???? get your head out of your arse..

[^^v]

imo the whole no refueling thing is not so bad...
it'll be like bak in the turbo days... n who knowz.. .mite even push engine makers to develop more efficient engines...

[FDBenni]

imo the no refueling is sht because re-fueling gives teams much more variables to play with (weight and pit stop times) when planning their strategy and just makes the sport that much more interesting to watch.

[aaronng]

imo the whole no refueling thing is not so bad...
it'll be like bak in the turbo days... n who knowz.. .mite even push engine makers to develop more efficient engines...

Reminds me of that year where tyre changes were not allowed. That was a shit year. hahaha

[Chris_F]

I think the no re-fueling rule is interesting...

It would level the playing field in qualifying and make driver skill more important than race strategy.

The engineers would also have to put fuel economy at the top of their list which is run a HUGE fuel tank and throw economy out the window lol.

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

Button on pole!!! :D

[^^v]

good shit mangz...

fia have released car weights too (with fuel)...

1. Button 647.5
2. R&#228;ikk&#246;nen 644.0
3. Barrichello 648.0
4. Vettel 631.5
5. Massa 643.0
6. Rosberg 642.0
7. Kovalainen 644.0
8. Webber 646.0
9. Alonso 654.0
10.Nakajima 668.0


with a good start ... Button is looking strong for the win.. but gota keep an eye on kimi's KERS @ off the line and the run down to turn 2......

[GreekWarrior]

ooo love monico


only thing is it's hard to pass on this track

[EGB18CT]

anyone watch cam mcconville f1 experience? i think was a replay that was shown during the melb f1 or part of?

just finishing up now ..

[1900-hustler]

yeah i watched it..

would have been a fcukn awsome experience!

[GreekWarrior]

brawn 1-2 again


lol at nakajima crashing on the last lap


open your eyes japan

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

man I love Monaco... Brawn totally dominated that race! Ferrari look like they're almost back in form... next GP should see how much they've improved.

Shame for Vettel...

Button FTW!~! w0o0o0oooooooooooohh...

[EGB18CT]

button again, would love to get rubens up there tho.

lol at nakajima haha

shame webber didnt get on the podium.

[krogoth]

yeh, webber and ferrari doing very very well

[1900-hustler]

lolol nakajima hahahahahahaha

I was about to fall asleep then i see him crash LOL

self ownage

[krogoth]

hez such a fkn shit kunt, lol

[1900-hustler]

its funnier cos it was the last lap

If it was earlier it would have been normal for him to crash...

But after doing 77 laps its just more lol

Wonder what williams was telling him after the race

[STAiN MASTER]

lolol nakajima hahahahahahaha

I was about to fall asleep then i see him crash LOL

self ownage

I think he got bored and wanted to drift, you can see he ripped up the handbrake to get the back end out to initialise the drift but couldn't keep the drift angle so he lost it into the tyre wall...:p

[aaronng]

button again, would love to get rubens up there tho.

lol at nakajima haha

shame webber didnt get on the podium.

LOL @ Barrichello complaining about Brawn setting up Button to win in the Spanish GP and then having his chance but not being able to keep up. Stop complaining and drive better! You can see Barrichello throwing the car around, which is not the way to go on Monaco.

[GreekWarrior]

Kazuki Nakajima frowns upon your shenanigans

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0814/rpm_a_nakajima01_200.jpg




http://www.leblogauto.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/plr/kazuki_nakajima.jpg

http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w38/img.355506_t.jpg

[STAiN MASTER]

This girl on the left was cute, she was wiping her right hand on her dress after she shook hands with the drives, someone find out who she is..

http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/53787_2.jpg

[^^v]

lol @ Nelsons comments about Beumi....
made me lol...

[STAiN MASTER]

lol @ Nelsons comments about Beumi....
made me lol...

I reckon wtf was Nelson on about, "these young drives" thinking he's a veteran I felt like bashing him when he said that, he's only in F1 cos of his Dad, Beumi will score higher then PQ this session, Flavio cant wait to get rid of PQ..

[Dxs]

This girl on the left was cute, she was wiping her right hand on her dress after she shook hands with the drives, someone find out who she is..

http://www.itv-f1.com/ImageLibrary/53787_2.jpg

i took a random guess and googled 'princess of monaco'


http://photos.posh24.com/p/123758/l/charlotte_casiraghi/charlotte_casiraghi_celebrates_uma.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/20zwk01.jpg


Charlotte Casiraghi is her name... none of the drivers gave her or a kiss either.. too intimidated? :p

you own me one too

[krogoth]

g damn

[aaronng]

http://i7.tinypic.com/20zwk01.jpg


Charlotte Casiraghi is her name... none of the drivers gave her or a kiss either.. too intimidated? :p

you own me one too

Ewww... not hot at all. Especially up top left.

[STAiN MASTER]

smashedd!!

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/276/r0070351dq8.jpg

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

maaan... go party or watch GP tonight??? lol

[killua888]

maaan... go party or watch GP tonight??? lol

party....its only qualifying:p

[aaronng]

Nelson Piquet spun out. Serves him right ahahahhaha

[^^v]

fuel loads r in...

Vettel 649.5
Button 655.5
Barrichello 652.5
Webber 656.0
Trulli 652.0
Raikkonen 658.0
Massa 654.0
Alonso 644.5
Rosberg 660.0
Kubica 664.

button looks the fav atm... but hes on the dirty side .. so start will be important...

[killua888]

wow.........less than 10 laps in and barrichello is having a shocker of a race.......

[dahon]

poor barri =(

[killua888]

i like this duel between button and vettel, pretty awesome.......but i feel sorry for barrichello............screwed up bad......

[1900-hustler]

go webber!

[GreekWarrior]

button again, unstoppable

[1900-hustler]

yeah .. but at least webber beat vettel

stupid kid gave the race to button lol jk jk

[aaronng]

Barrichello's mistakes are not really acceptable... how can he sacrifice his car parts just to attack that aggressively when he is not close enough to realistically overtake?!

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

Very unfortunate start for Barrichello! He was probably pushing so hard out of desperation, he is drifting further away from Button with every race and now that error has really made his work for the championship that much harder...

Button is just steaming along... so good to see him winning so consistently and with great confidence after all the struggles over 07-08.

RBR ruined Vettel's strategy... I think the 2 stopper for Vettel would have been fine and guaranteed 2nd, possibly challenge JB for 1st.

Great day for Webber!! Always good to see him get up their... he really needs to hurry up and win! lol

[antO]

good job webber, someone stop button!

[dc2dc2dc2]

webber ftw !!!

[hooyn]

button the next schumacher

[dc2dc2dc2]

yeh ralph

[i_s2_honda]

button the next schumacher

pffft his only winning because all the other cars are s**t now... :D

[^^v]

pffft his only winning because all the other cars are s**t now... :D
same could be said for schumi in 2002 n 2004...

best car n the driver who is most consistant usually wins... but RB aint too far off... if vettle hadn't made that mistake in turn 10 it woulda been closer...
look @ barrichello... hes driving the exact same car.. but hes 26points adrift...
buttons pwntz...

[i_s2_honda]

same could be said for schumi in 2002 n 2004...

best car n the driver who is most consistant usually wins... but RB aint too far off... if vettle hadn't made that mistake in turn 10 it woulda been closer...
look @ barrichello... hes driving the exact same car.. but hes 26points adrift...
buttons pwntz...

true... brawns only winning because they choose solely to focus on the cars themselves rather then waste money on s**ty KERS... in the end they created a better and lighter car then lets say McLaren thanks to hondas help :cool: if anything i reckon Vettel is probably the best driver in the F1 at the moment rather then button...

on another note...

How does everybody feel about 2 tier formula 1... i got a bit of mixed feelings about it... on one hand i feel its good and it will bring a sort of Le Mans racing feel where you got separate classes like GT1 and GT2... on the other hand i feel its just going to suck and be way to confusing... thoughts

[GreekWarrior]

vettels gona be the next legend in f1, he's only 21 and he drives better than the experienced drivers out there

[^^v]

true... brawns only winning because they choose solely to focus on the cars themselves rather then waste money on s**ty KERS... in the end they created a better and lighter car then lets say McLaren thanks to hondas help :cool: if anything i reckon Vettel is probably the best driver in the F1 at the moment rather then button...

on another note...

How does everybody feel about 2 tier formula 1... i got a bit of mixed feelings about it... on one hand i feel its good and it will bring a sort of Le Mans racing feel where you got separate classes like GT1 and GT2... on the other hand i feel its just going to suck and be way to confusing... thoughts

it was pretty much all Hondas doing.. they're still bankrolling them this year..
they had a kers (flywheel system) ready to go.. but since Honda pulled out.. they held the rights to the KERS technology... so brawn wasnt in a position to use it...

as for Vettle hes been making too many mistakes this season.. either off the start line or in the race... hes got the talent.. but lacks the experience...

Button has stepped up his game... hes showing all the traits of being one of the greats... he just doesn't seem to put a foot wrong...

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

I'm not a fan of the 2 tier system... F1 wouldn't be the same! Although it does need change...

Maybe the FIA should say fark it.. UNLIMITED technical freedom, no budget caps in all categories/aspects and make cars as you wish!!! o0o0ohhhh... imagine the possibilities!! the cars would probably end up flying like in star wars ep 1! future of F1...? LOL

[^^v]

I'm not a fan of the 2 tier system... F1 wouldn't be the same! Although it does need change...

Maybe the FIA should say fark it.. UNLIMITED technical freedom, no budget caps in all categories/aspects and make cars as you wish!!! o0o0ohhhh... imagine the possibilities!! the cars would probably end up flying like in star wars ep 1! future of F1...? LOL
not a fan of the 2 tier system either... its just stupid... max should juz be shot ffs..


but i do wonder.. with unrestricted technical regs.. and unlimiited budgets... how fast would these cars really go...

[bo279]

button not quite next schu...
schumacher was more than a driver, he was able to build a team around himself..demand performance and get it too...turn a stale ferrari in the 90s to a dominant one. Look what's happening to them after he retires, they're starting to fall back...all the key people are leaving or retiring i.e brawn, todt.

Test of a true champ is how a team performs around them especially in tough times....that's why it'd be interesting to see how hamilton can handle himself. Ride through the hard times and get the benefits at the end...not jumping boat all the time just because the team didn't perform for a year or 2....i.e webber.

Interesting 85% of viewers on ONE HD thought webber would win this year...i thought itd be more the other way around. It's good he's finally getting some luck his way. But it just seems to me the team is banking on a win from vettel with the aggressive strategy and more of a safety net of points for webber with a safer option of heavier fuel load.

[Binny]

pffft his only winning because all the other cars are s**t now... :D

agreed

[GreekWarrior]

Major teams abandon Formula One
AAP - June 19, 2009, 9:32 am

Formula One was thrown into disarray on the eve of the British Grand Prix as the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) announced they would be setting up a rival championship to that organised by the sport's governing body the FIA next season.

McLaren-Mercedes, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Brawn GP, Ferrari, Red Bull and Toro Rosso have been opposed to FIA's plans to introduce a budget cap for next season.

Williams and Force India, however, have accepted the new framework, along with three new teams - USF1, Campos and Manor.

However, in a statement from FOTA obtained by AFP the rebel teams make it clear that they are ready to launch a breakaway as of the next campaign.

"It has become clear that the stables cannot continue to make compromises on the fundamental values of the sport," read the statement.

"They have refused to modify the conditions regarding their signing up to the 2010 world championship.

"The teams have no other alternative but to begin to prepare for a new championship which reflects the values of the competitors and their sponsors.

"This series will have a transparent governing body, one single set of rules, it would encourage new entrants, would willingly listen to the fans' wishes, which includes lower admission prices throughout the world, for the sponsors and major shareholders."

[jords]

Looks like its all over for Formula 1 as we currently know it, to continue they will have to go through some difficult changes, or a new revised championship will emerge.

[aaronng]

So will this be the start of Formula Zero with unlimited budgets and zero performance restrictions? :p

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

just read this in the news... wow! F1 w/o FOTA teams will become... really anonymous!

Maybe the new championship won't have any ghey restrictions now... GO ALL OUT!!!

Bernie and Maxi boi... tsk tsk! what will you do now sons...

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

So will this be the start of Formula Zero with unlimited budgets and zero performance restrictions? :p

one can only hope... V12 with quadruple turbo's...and maybe KERS? lol

[1900-hustler]

F-Zero ftw

Where we race on sky scraping highways and race cars that hover over the ground

Hahahah

[90LAN]

haha ferrari not winning so having a sook
will be good to see who spends the most money lol

[i_s2_honda]

+ 1 to F-Zero... name sounds awesome too...

FIA can shoove it up their loose ****s :P

[aaronng]

one can only hope... V12 with quadruple turbo's...and maybe KERS? lol

Don't need Kers with V12 quad turbo. Why store 80hp when you can up the boost by 1 bar through your steering wheel? Yummy.

[90LAN]

Don't need Kers with V12 quad turbo. Why store 80hp when you can up the boost by 1 bar through your steering wheel? Yummy.

haha good one
and aero dynamics to keep you down at 400km/h

[i_s2_honda]

haha good one
and aero dynamics to keep you down at 400km/h

who says anything about keeping them down... how about making them like levitate around the track with an unlimited budget... f**k wheels as well

[EGB18CT]

shit sounds like f1 got owned hard!

[dahon]

lol mosley desrves it the idiot.. and so does bernie... both of them are corrupt idiots wanting more money... (which is stupid considering the FIA is a non profit organisation)
this shouldve happened a long time ago... and asif ferrari gets the credit.. they betrayed the teams in the first renegade series to the FIA (for a behind the back deal)...

[Binny]

lolz a competetive competion GG, FIA got OWNED, court case going forth now so we'll see wat happens

[1900-hustler]

hamilton doesnt make it past Q1 hahah

[GreekWarrior]

i love it

cry cf

[GreekWarrior]

kimi on vodka lol

bad luck for webber

button ****ed it

[krogoth]

lol nakajima sif 5th

[BlitZ]

Vettel is always so close..... hope he can take a win

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

LETS GO JENS!!! +5 positions... :thumbsup:

haha lets hope for a good clean race! RBR will be the team to beat... should be a great race!

[GreekWarrior]

if vettel doesnt **** up he'll probably win, webber might be able to pull something tho.

vettel has the heaviest fuel load out of the top 6 and he still got on pole so should be interesting

[1900-hustler]

cmon vettell fcuk up and webber grab the win with rubens in 2nd lol

[BlitZ]

vettel ripped everyone.. 1 sec per lap

[krogoth]

and he was driving conservatively on some laps

it helps when your that far in front tho

what happnd at the start? how come he got so far ahead?

[GreekWarrior]

because he's good? lol


would of been closer if webber was on the front row

[krogoth]

so there wasnt some epic crash or anything?

lol button hamilton getting ownd on home ground

and webber is a gun

[aaronng]

so there wasnt some epic crash or anything?

lol button hamilton getting ownd on home ground

and webber is a gun

Kovalainen used his rear wheel and diffuser to take out the front wing of Bourdais when trying to block. Owned.

[aaronng]

and he was driving conservatively on some laps

it helps when your that far in front tho

what happnd at the start? how come he got so far ahead?

Good driving and he was fast.

LOL at Nakajima falling all the way to the back. And LOL at Heidfeld not wanting to pit to get a new nose eventhough his was damaged and going from P11 to P15 because of that. ehaheahehaheahea.

[dc2dc2dc2]

go marky

finally has a half decent package

[krogoth]

that track looked like the biggest pos

bumps and shit everywhere

cars were bouncing heaps

[^^v]

fkn the trulli train held up button @ the start n all throughout his first stint...
post race button was sayin how he backed off a bit behind trulli to get clean air.. n it was apparent he was lapping 1sec faster than the train...

anywayz still waiting on webbers first victory...

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

infamous Trulli train... that kidd!! lool race pace is always disapointing!

I think getting caught behind Trulli in the first and second stint was pretty much the story for Button's race! I think at the first round of pit stops Brawn should have gone for track position and get Button ahead of Trulli... he could have possibly had the pace to at least finish 4th or 5th.

Nevertheless RBR and Vettel did a strong job! Adrian Newey is absolutely brilliant... It makes remainder of the season a lot more interesting now that BRB might have finally caught up to the Brawns...

next race at the 'Ring'... I prefer this track over Hockenheim. Same with Suzuka over Fuji... :)

[Binny]

infamous Trulli train... that kidd!! lool race pace is always disapointing!

I think getting caught behind Trulli in the first and second stint was pretty much the story for Button's race! I think at the first round of pit stops Brawn should have gone for track position and get Button ahead of Trulli... he could have possibly had the pace to at least finish 4th or 5th.

Nevertheless RBR and Vettel did a strong job! Adrian Newey is absolutely brilliant... It makes remainder of the season a lot more interesting now that BRB might have finally caught up to the Brawns...

next race at the 'Ring'... I prefer this track over Hockenheim. Same with Suzuka over Fuji... :)

Button had epic understeer anywayz so it really would'nt have made a difference, he was complaining all w/e and race that understeer was fking him up. no fluro yellow helmet = no win lol.

[^^v]

on the last stint he was catching both Massa n Rosberg by over a second per lap... he was quiet quick on the soft tyres... more than likely he woulda had 4th if Trullis chu chu didnt hold him up...

[EGB18CT]

i say bring in the ring!!

[GreekWarrior]

F1 deal ends threat of breakaway


An agreement has been reached between Formula 1's governing body and the teams to prevent a breakaway series.

The two parties had been engulfed in a bitter row over planned budgetary and technical changes for the 2010 season.

But it appears a resolution has now been found and, as part of the deal, Max Mosley has agreed not to stand for re-election as president of the FIA.

"There will be no split, there will be one F1 championship. We have agreed to a reduction of costs," said Mosley.

"The objective is to get back to the spending levels of the early 90s within two years."

F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone added that he was "very happy common sense has prevailed" following a meeting of 120 members of the FIA in Paris aimed at resolving the crisis.

Ferrari chief president Luca di Montezemolo, head of the Formula One Teams Association (Fota), added: "I think the decisions we have shared this morning are important. We will have the rules of 2009, same rules for everybody.

606: DEBATE
I knew they would not dare split from F1...

markolee

"It means that we have stability.

"I think [Max Mosley] has done a very good fix of the problem. When you have reached an agreement everyone has to help in the same way."

Ahead of the meeting, Mosley had insisted that he would not step down as part of any potential agreement and might even seek re-election as head of world motor sport.

He hit out at what he described as "wholly unjustified criticism" of the FIA, adding: "It is for the FIA membership, and the FIA membership alone, to decide on its democratically elected leadership, not the motor industry and still less the individuals the industry employs to run its F1 teams."

However, it appears Mosley has now agreed to move aside when his fourth term as FIA president ends in October, saying: "I will not be up for re-election, now we have peace."

Furthermore, writs that had been threatened against Ferrari and the other teams in Fota - McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull Racing, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - are likely to be shelved.

"Fota's public stance before this meeting was that they weren't in the mood for negotiation or compromise - and if we take that on board, the fact that they've got their way today must be seen as something of a capitulation by the FIA," reported BBC Five Live's David Croft.

I always thought there wasn't much between us, now we've agreed there isn't

FIA president Max Mosley

And that is a view shared by Ferrari, who issued a statement reading: "The FIA's World Motor Sports Council has approved all Fota's proposals."

It added: "The objective is to avoid continuous changes decided by one person alone."

However, Mosley sought to play down suggestions he had bowed to Fota's requests, telling BBC Sport: "I know it's an old cliche but everybody's won.

"What we wanted was to get new teams into F1. We've got new teams in, which we haven't been able to do for 10-15 years, and at the same time got costs down so independent teams are profitable

"If they're happy with what they (Fota) have got, fine, I've won what I wanted.

FIA President Max Mosley

Report - Mosley agrees to stand down

"As far as I'm concerned the teams were always going to get rid of me in October, well they still are. Whether the person who succeeds me will be more to their liking remains to be seen."

The agreement ends two months of wrangling since Mosley announced after a World Council meeting at the end of April that a voluntary &#163;40m budget cap would be imposed from next season - a plan that prompted a rebellion from eight teams, with Fota announcing on Thursday they were planning a rival series.

But the new agreement ends that threat, while still maintaining the "financial viability" of teams which had been targeted with the initial budgetary restrictions.

Mosley explained: "There is no budget cap because costs will come down to the levels of early 1990s in two years - it's a different way of doing the same thing. I always thought there wasn't much between us, now we've agreed there isn't."

As part of the agreement, existing teams must help new outfits - Campos, US F1 and Manor - with their engines and chassis.

John Howett
We look forward to working with the FIA Senate to achieve a prosperous and exciting future for Formula 1

Toyota president John Howett

Toyota president John Howett, the vice-chairman of Fota, hailed the unity of the teams even though Williams and Force India broke ranks and submitted unconditional 2010 entries earlier this month.

"This has been a challenging period," he said.

"But thanks to the unity of the Fota teams and the foresight of the World Motor Sport Council members we have achieved the right result for Formula 1," he said.

"We look forward to working with the FIA Senate to achieve a prosperous and exciting future for Formula 1 and its millions of fans around the world."

BBC sports news correspondent James Munro, reporting from Paris, said: "It's come as a bit of a surprise, given that Fota was planning to meet in Bologna on Thursday to discuss plans for the breakaway championship.

"But what we got today after a meeting of World Motorsport Council was an impromptu press conference and Mosley began by saying there will be no split, there will be one championship.

"He said that over the course of the negotiations he had been able to secure guarantees from the teams who were threatening to break away that they would try to rein back the levels of their spending to the levels they were spending in the early 90s.

F1 now has stability - Di Montezemolo

"It was him that had come up with the idea that next season all teams would have a budget cap of about &#163;40m, but there has clearly been a trade-off as he has also agreed to do what he says was always the plan - stand down as president of the FIA this October."

It is not the first time Mosley has promised to stand down as FIA president - in June 2004, he announced he would stand down from his position in October of that year, only to rescind his decision a month later and secure re-election.

But he was adamant that with his 70th birthday approaching, and with the row finally settled, there was no way he would be having a change of heart this time.

"As long as the teams behave themselves I will be gone," he said. "A deal is a deal and if it is not stuck to you sometimes have to reconsider things. However, I have absolute confidence that this resolution will be stuck to."

Fota was expected to address the media at a press conference on Thursday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8116756.stm

[Binny]

F**k yes i hope max doesn't get re-elected, and i hope the new guy changes the ghey rules they bringing in next season (i.e. winner = most race wins not points).

[krogoth]

why would u want that??

hamilton the fag won last year coz of the points system

[dc2dc2dc2]

max is a gun

kinky nazi sex ftw

that in my books is win

next to lewis rooting nicole

[jorziie]

lewis hamilton ;p

[i_s2_honda]

max is a gun

kinky nazi sex ftw

that in my books is win

next to lewis rooting nicole

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

on that topic...

this s**ts been way to overdone but this one is one of the best :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO8TLBn7z1k

[antO]

cmon webber do one step better

[Binny]

why would u want that??

hamilton the fag won last year coz of the points system

Ur a nub i said i want the new guy to change the GHEY rules i.e. no points system?..... read before you say stupid shit.....

[dc2dc2dc2]

oh shit punch on with emogoth !!!

[Binny]

Formula One's fragile peace deal was thrown into doubt again overnight when eight leading teams walked out of a meeting with the FIA.

Their anger came after the governing body told them they had not been entered into the 2010 championship and would have no say on finalising cost-cutting measures.

The Formula One Teams Association accused the FIA of putting ``the future of Formula One in jeopardy'' by reneging on a deal that saw them freeze plans to form a breakaway series.

At a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council two weeks ago in Paris, the FIA had backed down on plans to implement a voluntary budget cap that had angered FOTA.

The rapprochement saw the FOTA teams agree to cut costs to 1990s levels and FIA announce that they would be entered into the 2010 championship.

But at Wednesday's meeting of the German Grand Prix to discuss the rules for the 2010 series, the FOTA teams were told that was not the case by the FIA's technical chief.

FOTA said in a statement: "The team managers were informed by Mr Charlie Whiting of the FIA that, contrary to previous agreements, the eight FOTA teams are not currently entered into the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship and have no voting rights in relation to the technical and sporting regulations thereof.''

FOTA's members - Ferrari, McLaren, BMW Sauber, Renault, Toyota, Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Brawn GP - asked for the meeting of the technical working group to be postponed.

"This was rejected on the grounds that no new Concorde Agreement would be permitted before a unanimous approval of the 2010 regulations was achieved,'' FOTA said.

"However, it is clear to the FOTA teams that the basis of the 2010 technical and sporting regulations was already established in Paris.''

FOTA said at no point in the June 24 meeting in Paris did the FIA request "unanimous agreement on regulations change expressed''.

"To subsequently go against the will of the WMSC and the detail of the Paris agreement puts the future of Formula One in jeopardy,'' FOTA said.

"As a result of these statements, the FOTA representatives at the subsequent Technical Working Group (on Wednesday) were not able to exercise their rights and therefore had no option other than to terminate their participation.''

The FIA said that all 13 teams in next year's championship must sign a legally binding agreement to reduce costs to early 1990s levels and agree to a minimum car weight of 620 kilograms.

"The eight FOTA teams were invited to attend the meeting to discuss their further proposals for 2010,'' the FIA said.

"Unfortunately no discussion was possible because FOTA walked out of the meeting.''


Source:http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25755621-11088,00.html

[1900-hustler]

F1 needs more coverage of nicole ..

Hahahahah

Oh and buttons girl lol

[1900-hustler]

lewis hamilton tops practice 2 @ nurburgring..

hrmm..

[GreekWarrior]

alot of teams sandbag during practise though

[^^v]

ham surely was runnin on fumes..
while brawn .. rb n co were doin long runs..

the weather is a worry... temps r quiet low.. and chance of rain today and tomr..

hopefuly it should be a closer than last round... the track suits the brawns more.. and there are a few heavy breaking zones where they can excel... but lik i said temps r quiet low.. so not ideal..

[GreekWarrior]

webber for pole baby wooh

[davec]

^ about bloody time!

[1900-hustler]

yeah webber.

go ftw son!

[Binny]

hopefully hamilton to podium, hamilton and vettel quite good in the rain, so see wat happens. (hopefully button has the understeer problem again:thumbdwn:)

[GreekWarrior]

hopefully hamilton crashes into the barriers, if it's going to be a wet race then I think vettel will come out on top, he's good in the rain

[1900-hustler]

webber ! ..

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[GreekWarrior]

far out, he really is the unluckiest f1 driver lol

[1900-hustler]

no wait..

rubens is the unluckiest today! hahaha

[GreekWarrior]

lol

webbbbbber

[JDM.Power]

lol drive thru penalty and looks like he will win the race

[1900-hustler]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH wooottt

the fcukn man webber!

[1900-hustler]

hamilton lolllllllllllllll

[aaronng]

LOL @ Webber's "yes yes yes yes yes!!!" orgasm cheer.

Finally he gets his win! Congrats Webber!

[GreekWarrior]

webber jizz himself when he crossed the line haha

woooooh


lmao hamilton, take your mclaren else where cf

[1900-hustler]

hahahah jizz in my pants

[GreekWarrior]

when I won my first f1 race I....JIZZED IN MY PANTS

[drsilliez]

thought he was gonna screw up again after he lost his first position jsut before corner 1!

congrats webber!

[krogoth]

man that webber has a weird ass accent

any1 catch the "YeW fkn BEAUDY"

[antO]

LOl.. Great race to watch, first corner like WOW. lol.... penalty drive through, its over webber Lol. But no, he did it and WON! :D congrats. "YES YES YES YES YES YES"

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

That was a good race! very exciting... Webber finally nailed one! lol Was looking very bleak after teh first corner but man that RBR was hooked up nicely... He totally dominated that race!!! :)

Hamilton... went in too hot son! lol

KERS is frustrating to watch!! Martin Brundle made a good point a few races ago about KERS... something along the lines of: "when we'll look back at some of these races in the future, some of the defending, and overtaking, was it skill or was it just mechanical?"
IMO, I think they should have made KERS uniform, either mandatory or scrapped it. At the start of Button's second stint, he was able to overtake the non-KERS cars quite easily, but whereas as he couldn't jump Heiki in the first stint... no cars are running KERS next year! lol

[Binny]

raikonen should just quit now and do rally you can see he cbfed, i rkn nelson piquet should take his place so that ferrari lose FOREVER!!!!

[Moey.C]

YES YES YES YES YOU FKN BEAUTYYY. YEEEHEHEHEHESSS YEHHHHHHESS lmaoooo fkn pissed myself

[kenske]

fark anyone see massa's crash?

looked on replay and it looked like his throttle and steering locked and the g forces went past 5 g's

[dahon]

barris rear sussy hit him in the head.. if u see and hear the replay u can hear him go straight off the throttle as soon as it hits him..

and wtf was with the timing going down with 40secs to go?!

[kenske]

f1 qualifying fail

[^^v]

gg massa...

wonder if he can race tomr...

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/formulakuvat/kilpailut/2009/755343.jpg

EDIT: looks lik Alonso is on a splash n dash... he said in his interview that hes not expecting to fight for the win (translation: I barely have enough fuel to get to turn 1). lulz...

man its going to be an interesting race... expect the red bulls to struggle massively with tyre degradation...
keep an eye on Button.... the brawns conserve their tyres the best... so if hes fueled heavily...............

lol @ this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gVfxDuNaks

[kenske]

helmet did its job... doubt he'll drive since he got concussed

[^^v]

confimed.... Massa is out for tomrs race..

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090725171847.shtml

[Binny]

GG, poor massa, i always joke about how much i hate him, but man that was fkn epic. Hope he gets well soon, hopefully soon enough for next race at telefonica.

[^^v]

reports vary....they say he maybe out for two months... or the rest of the season..
hes in a medically induced coma atm after being operated on... he'll be out of that soon...
Ferrari r gona release a statement before race start i think....

[hooyn]

the seasons starting to get interesting !! :D

[Binny]

GG two months or whole season that is really bad, i wonder wat ferrari can do, can they bring a new driver in?.

If so im guessing it will be that rally driver dude who was reportedly supposed to take kimmi raikonnen's possition if kimmi decided to leave f1 for rally.

[^^v]

it'd prob be Marc Gene or Luca Badoer filling in for massa...

[^^v]

heres a snippit from http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090726104910.shtml

sounds pretty serious... hope he gets through it...


A hospital spokesman said: "He had suffered serious, life-threatening injuries including loss of consciousness and a fracture of the forehead on the left side and a fracture on the base of the skull. After the operation he is being cared for in intensive care and now he is in stable, satisfactory condition."

It is said that Massa's pregnant wife Rafaela is en route to Hungary from their native Sao Paulo.

“After undergoing an operation yesterday afternoon, Felipe Massa's condition remains stable and there were no further complications through the night,” Ferrari said in a statement Sunday morning. “He will be given another CT scan today, which will provide more precise information.”

[dahon]

its good that hes stable and hopefully he recovers 100&#37;...
good on barrichello for accompanying him to hospital aswell

[1900-hustler]

webber back to bad luck lol

[Binny]

hamilton first atm YES, been so long since i've seen #1 beside his name

[Binny]

HAMILTON 1st

[1900-hustler]

HAMILTON 1st

fgt lol

nah he did a good drive

good ole consistent webber ..

officially 2nd in the drivers championship

[jorziie]

hamilton babies!

[1900-hustler]

was anyone else undressing nicole scherzinger with their eyes..

mmmm

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/26/article-0-05D941D9000005DC-673_224x678.jpg

[STAiN MASTER]

^^^ she has saggy boobs Iz reckonz, not bad for a oldie.. id hit it.

EDIT: btw she has a hairy forehead and she's butt ugly without make up ;)

[Cvik_ryda]

Any one think its really weird how Lewis dad is alway there? fookin weirdo i reckon, imagine you rock upto work everyday and your dad is there with you lol