noob gonna change the clutch, plz help, clutch kit choice

[mikoZ]

hi ppl

as my stock clutch will gone anytime, it really urgent for me to buy/choose a clutch kit and replace it on

i have couple question to ask and hope you guys can help me out

1. should i change the light flywheel at same time when i change the clutch?
2. what other stuff i have to change which not include in a clutch kit
3. regarding on brand, i personally love the ATS carbon Single 1600kg (what i use on my dc5 before, feels awesom), any other brand you guys reckon
4. after change the clutch kit, by an chance i can make better/slove out the clutch crunch problem(i heard that if i do install a ap2 clutch, problem will be solved)
5. anyother suggestion welcome~

thx guys

[Age_S2000]

exedy sports tuff heavy duty works a treat i just put it in mine and im having no problems at all. it has even eliminated clutch buzz. lol iv almost forgoten wat it even is lol.

as for the flywheel i wouldnt and i didnt.
pros: slightly better take off
cons: less top end torque as there is less rotating mass on the fly wheel it does have an effect on torque. saddly these cars lack enuff in torque so loosing eny more would be a shame :(

check your clutch master cylinder for leaks inside the car. i noticed mine was sweating a little bit. these can be replaced with a new one from honda or machined out and sleeved if you know someone who can do it for alot less then the price of a new one

[WhiteAP1]

Most of the exedy products available for the s2000 are basically the OEM product re-packaged, no point "upgrading" to the same thing, so make sure u get the right one. In regards to brand name and what not, do your research and make your own mind up or if u can, take a few for a test drive - thats how I decided on the TODA kit.

In regards to the flywheel, I found the car alot more responsive down low which was huge plus considering the lack of torque. Personally I didnt take the car close enough to the limit to feel any loss of torque.

Its been a few years since I installed the clutch kit but since then i've done alot of other things to make up for the low end and mid-range lack of torque, even improved on the top end. Now its pretty well balanced through the entire rev range. I guess it depends what u want out of the car and what ure ultimate goal is, if you've got one.

[Bowzer]

The Exedy HD kit comes with OEM Honda Pressure Plate, Release Bearing (Pull Type) and Exedy Clutch Plate. The kit it self is a hundred or two cheaper then buying it from Honda Australia.

I have installed about 4 of these clutches, 3 of them have all upgraded to Toda flywheels at the same time with good throttle response. Something you should consider when the time comes. These owners however has said the clutch buzz is still apparent after 20,000kms depends on your type of driving, so clutch buzz isn't totally eliminated.

If buzz is a concern the best bet would be to fit a AP2 clutch plate instead.

The next combo i would like to try would be ACT pressure plate, AP2 clutch disc and Toda Flywheel

[h17am]

i use the ats/carbonetics single.
buy that.
best clutch ever.

[s2kadl]

If staying with stock power, Id just go with the Exedy kit, if you are going with more down the track maybe ACT HDSS kit with OEM disk from the US, Im at 260ish rwkw and is holding up nicely. Also check out SOS new clutch kit (Science of Speed) awesome service and pricing.

[andiiso]

so from wat i can gather, the exedy kits (HD or OEM replacement) will still have a clutch buzz further down track .. wat clutch kits combos etc get rid of this buzz once n for all whether it be HD or oem replacement?

[mikoZ]

check your clutch master cylinder for leaks inside the car. i noticed mine was sweating a little bit. these can be replaced with a new one from honda or machined out and sleeved if you know someone who can do it for alot less then the price of a new one

will do ,thx for the suggestion,mate

[mikoZ]

Most of the exedy products available for the s2000 are basically the OEM product re-packaged, no point "upgrading" to the same thing, so make sure u get the right one. In regards to brand name and what not, do your research and make your own mind up or if u can, take a few for a test drive - thats how I decided on the TODA kit.

In regards to the flywheel, I found the car alot more responsive down low which was huge plus considering the lack of torque. Personally I didnt take the car close enough to the limit to feel any loss of torque.

Its been a few years since I installed the clutch kit but since then i've done alot of other things to make up for the low end and mid-range lack of torque, even improved on the top end. Now its pretty well balanced through the entire rev range. I guess it depends what u want out of the car and what ure ultimate goal is, if you've got one.

ur car still running the TODA high power single clutch kit? how it feel?

[mikoZ]

i use the ats/carbonetics single.
buy that.
best clutch ever.

i actually order the ATS carbon single 1600kg, but which be a big delay(2 month), but the clutch wear out now already,
have no choice, have to get one replace in..

[Age_S2000]

just think about the lightened flywheel option tho like i said it will effect top end torque think theoreticly. yess it will help take off obvious reason is because these is less weight on the crank but up top itll be like swinging a piece of string with nothin on the end of it......
its like wen muzzaz put fully sick cat back exhausts on there VRs n VSs n think there goin 100 times faster because there cars 1000times louds somtimes its just in the drivers head to think that sorry if it sounds rude i dnt mean to be just pointing it out

[vyets]

The loss of torque with a lighten flywheel can't even be felt. However what you can feel is the car reving up more quicker and how much more responsive defiantly one of the more worthwhile mods especially if you are pulling apart the clutch already. And maybe some sword fighting sound when you crank the car haha.

[jaeyon]

im after a new clutch + flywheel combo too as im still on the original ones. ive found a couple of prices on s2ki for the following. what do we think?

ACT Street Clutch, ACT ProLite flywheel, Gruppe-S Steel Braided Clutch Line, alignment tool and bearings will be $1085US shipped to aus

[mikoZ]

im after a new clutch + flywheel combo too as im still on the original ones. ive found a couple of prices on s2ki for the following. what do we think?

ACT Street Clutch, ACT ProLite flywheel, Gruppe-S Steel Braided Clutch Line, alignment tool and bearings will be $1085US shipped to aus

what's the weight of the ACT FW?
$1085US is a good price, as the combo with light FW(if they r), and good timing to buy from US, AUSD stronger now

[SuiJin]

bad bad, custom and tax. its 1000AUS+

[mikoZ]

bad bad, custom and tax. its 1000AUS+

i think the seller can work out the invoice:) as there not much gap between

[jaeyon]

the flywheel is 8.6lbs which is a bit over 4kgs. are the taxes incurred after 1000aus or 1000us? the seller can write down the total value of the goods.

[winkyc]

is the alignment tool required?

or is it the same for all clutch systems?
eg. OEM alignment tool different to ACT?

[jaeyon]

im not sure. :S

[Si1enzio]

the flywheel is 8.6lbs which is a bit over 4kgs. are the taxes incurred after 1000aus or 1000us? the seller can write down the total value of the goods.

Its AUD$1000, surely the seller can play around with the invoice. Either way, if you did have to pay duty/tax, it isnt much lol...

[WhiteAP1]

just think about the lightened flywheel option tho like i said it will effect top end torque think theoreticly. yess it will help take off obvious reason is because these is less weight on the crank but up top itll be like swinging a piece of string with nothin on the end of it......
its like wen muzzaz put fully sick cat back exhausts on there VRs n VSs n think there goin 100 times faster because there cars 1000times louds somtimes its just in the drivers head to think that sorry if it sounds rude i dnt mean to be just pointing it out


Like a muzza putting an exhaust on their VS?? Im not sure how this comparison works? Clearly ure stating that the only performance increase the VS owner experiences, is in their minds yet u admit that a lighter flywheel will help with take off which is what we're all saying. Like Vyets said the "theoretical" loss up top its hardly noticeable or very seldomly reached.

I think ure missing the point and need to do a little more homework or perhaps just dirve an s2000 with a 3kg flywheel.

Not being rude, just pointing it out.

[michaelswinners]

im i the market for a new clutch soon aswell, mine sliped yesterday... so from your exp guys is it really worth getting the lighter flywheel even if you really dont have the money atm?

[aozora]

Like a muzza putting an exhaust on their VS?? Im not sure how this comparison works? Clearly ure stating that the only performance increase the VS owner experiences, is in their minds yet u admit that a lighter flywheel will help with take off which is what we're all saying. Like Vyets said the "theoretical" loss up top its hardly noticeable or very seldomly reached.

I think ure missing the point and need to do a little more homework or perhaps just dirve an s2000 with a 3kg flywheel.

Not being rude, just pointing it out.

^^
Agreed.

I've got a Spoon lightweight flywheel and it revs up so much easier and smoothly... I really can't notice any torque loss.
In the end you'd want to be in the upper rev range right? So I don't see how staying with something that takes longer to reach this peak would be beneficial...

[mikoZ]

im i the market for a new clutch soon aswell, mine sliped yesterday... so from your exp guys is it really worth getting the lighter flywheel even if you really dont have the money atm?

i think it s depends

if you will need a light flywheel shortly, y not save up the money and waitting to get clutch + light FW done in same time , save on labour$$$

stock F20C flywheel is abt 14lbs, not that heavy as other stock car, you can keep it and just machine it when you change ur clutch kit
light FW is not a must buy for s2000 if ur one not a serious track car

or...you can just change ur clutch this time, and getting a light FW next time when you change ur clutch again

[YBJLS4]

exedy heavy duty for sure. no need for fly wheel as stated little torque in s2000's.

[jaeyon]

i have a clutch + flywheel + braided clutch line kit for sale for 1200. all act gear from the states. very positive reviews and its all brand new in their boxes (selling as i am selling my car).

the flywheel is a fair bit lighter than even the stock one

[lzybum]

hey guys

i recently purchased the exedy HD kit as my clutch is on its way. i've decided to run the oem ap1 flywheel with it as my car is my DD. now this is where my problem occurs.

i went to get a quote for the installation of a clutch kit and was told that i cannot get the ap1 flywheel machined and reused! he said something about theres not much something blah blah blah (lol tuned out cuz i was horrified in thought of spending more monies)...to be able to get it machined. the mechanic knows his stuff so im unsure of what to do...is he toying with me or is he being serious?

i also asked him how much it is to get a replacement from honda..and was told roughly $350-400!

if what he says is true...would u guys recommend getting the ap1 flywheel replacement again? or getting something else aftermarket (the ones i've seen around are mainly 4kgs in weight where ap1 is under 7kgs) considering its my DD !!

cheers guys!

[jaeyon]

is the flywheel is too worn you cant machine it, otherwise it wont last you very long. a lighter flywheel will probably make the s2k nicer to drive as a daily. it'll help with bottom end acceleration.

[lzybum]

i dont have a clue about how worn out the flywheel is... im still guessing the previous owner did not replace the clutch until i had it...
the car is at 104,000km so the flywheel is 104,000km old? lol
the mechanic didnt check, just told me straight out.

[vyets]

The flywheel is like a rotor, they can only machine it down to a certain extent before it gets finished. That's probably what his talking about. If the owner replaced the clutch and didn't machine the flywheel it could have caused it to wear unevenly, kind of like changing pads but not machining your rotors.

Lighter flywheels are always fine for daily, just gotta get used to it. Try Fidanza, they make good flywheels and not too pricey. But if you have the money go for the Toda :)

[lzybum]

im just scared of trying a light flywheel. scared it maybe too light (even like say 4kg FW) and like be stalling everywhere or like revving like a mofo trying to do hill starts lol.