[CL9] Euro Mods

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, figured going HID would give a headache, which is why I'm sticking with halogen. Just wondering if 7000k would be illegal as it's being sold in forums

[marquee]

In general non adr approved anything is illegal even some normal hallogen bulbs.

[ChaosMaster]

Anyone know if there are steel Euro footwell plates? Like the ones you find in Jag and Lexus when you open the door, there's a metal piece that has "Lexus" glowing in a nice blue light?

[HuyT]

Anyone know if there are steel Euro footwell plates? Like the ones you find in Jag and Lexus when you open the door, there's a metal piece that has "Lexus" glowing in a nice blue light?

like this? http://www.heeltoeauto.com/honda-access-door-sills-04-08-honda-accord-black-tsx-cl7-cl9-jdm.html

not sure what euro you have though, and i dont think this one lights up.....

[ChaosMaster]

Yeah, like those. Thanks. Damn, wanted ones that light up.

[HuyT]

Yeah, like those. Thanks. Damn, wanted ones that light up.

How much effort are you will to put out?
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-electronics/55850-diy-guide-illuminated-door-sills-1st-gen-tsx.html

[Fredoops]

Waiting to get paid so I could buy a 2007 TSX ecu.

[ChaosMaster]

How much effort are you will to put out?
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/1st-gen-electronics/55850-diy-guide-illuminated-door-sills-1st-gen-tsx.html

Wow, damn. I'm happy to pay for someone to do that, but me myself? Some DIY stuff like changing parts I can do. But when it comes to actually building (like a table, where even though everything was measured carefully, it still turned out wonky) I'm a no go.

[roony]

Waiting to get paid so I could buy a 2007 TSX ecu.

going for a new one? Hurry up, I wanna see how you go with flashpro :P

[adis]

Can i get some suggestions on what mod i should so next to my euro...

So far i have
-cai, headers, greddy ultimate.

Im thinking maybe cat? Throttle body? Vct? Suggestions please on best bang for buck. Cheers

Hey guys, i got the cat done, made nice difference, im happy. What mod is next thats is least expensive v effectiveness pls?

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Sway bar

[adis]

Sway bar wont give me
Killwasps -)

Need wasps lol

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You think you will win a race in a straight line? You need to be able to turn

[vasu]

I've got the Accord footwell plates but apprantely they don't come with LED. I'll post some pics soon..

[adis]

You think you will win a race in a straight line? You need to be able to turn

Im not racing? Just want more straight line power for now..

[ChaosMaster]

For power would be CAT/CAI/Headers/ECU(may provide some headache)/SC. Just don't expect the world.

[adis]

For power would be CAT/CAI/Headers/ECU(may provide some headache)/SC. Just don't expect the world.

Your right, cant expect too much from a NA. Im happy thus far.

Ive already done all those you mention.

Now im thinking maybe bigger throttle body may we woth my time or maybe pulleys what ever they are might be the go ?
Pretty open to suggestions...

After all my lil mods ill get final touch up tune and that will be that

[marquee]

Not much can unless you want to do internals.

[MingZai]

Nah, don't do pulleys.
Go for a bigger TB and change to a RBC might be what your looking for and some tuning for sure.

IMO Stock suspension and handling is quite fun hahah after tracking my car... but yes it's not ideal and you should upgrade your supension / handling in the future but not most important.

[adis]

RBC? Please Elaborate...

Ive lowered my car and am happy with handling...That will do for now

[Fredoops]

RBC? Please Elaborate...

Ive lowered my car and am happy with handling...That will do for now

Intake manifolds, see below.


Nah, don't do pulleys.
Go for a bigger TB and change to a RBC might be what your looking for and some tuning for sure.

IMO Stock suspension and handling is quite fun hahah after tracking my car... but yes it's not ideal and you should upgrade your supension / handling in the future but not most important.

Bigger TB dont do jack without cams and new Manifold.
http://www.hondata.com/tuning_k24a2_tsx_engine.html

But then with RBC you loose torque... kind of a tradeoff. The IM to lookout for is NOT RBB or RBC, it's the RRC used on the FD2R (http://www.superstreetonline.com/techarticles/sstp_1002_k_series_intake_manifold_shootout/viewall.html). it still loose some torque compared to the RBB, but nothing compared to the torque you'd lose switching form RBB to RBC, and RRC gains a heck of a lot power.

Pulley is the next best bang for your buck mod... remember the K is internally balanced so if you get a good quality pully it wont break anything.

Next is intake manifold heat gasket shield and TB heatshield thingy, if you are doing that I'd suggest you use groundwires the TB and engine block, because the DBW motor and engine sensors gounds off the engine block and intake manifold, I found that out when installing the Icebox. The heatshields will cut the ground.

[adis]

Some good info there..., pulley, where is the best place to look for it and what brand as im not familiar with them at all.

[Fredoops]

Some good info there..., pulley, where is the best place to look for it and what brand as im not familiar with them at all.

Go to TSXclub or acura forums and search for "lightened Pulley"

should be some info there.

[MingZai]

Quick update... I might be getting the Hondata Reflash sometime soon... so I decided to do the testing for OZHONDA's sake :p

[vaikis]

Quick update... I might be getting the Hondata Reflash sometime soon... so I decided to do the testing for OZHONDA's sake :p

what testing ? I was using Hondata reflash 3 years ago :D After that K-Pro and now happy owner of FlashPro ;)

[Fredoops]

what testing ? I was using Hondata reflash 3 years ago :D After that K-Pro and now happy owner of FlashPro ;)

Testing for A.U.D.M. CL9.

You know, people who drive on the correct side of the road as opposed to continental Europe :-p

[MingZai]

Haha I'll be getting the Hondata Reflash + the Blitz Touch B.R.A.I.N to see how everything is going :P

[tonysalib]

Hey guys, i got the cat done, made nice difference, im happy. What mod is next thats is least expensive v effectiveness pls?

What cat did you get? and from where?

[tonysalib]

Testing for A.U.D.M. CL9.

You know, people who drive on the correct side of the road as opposed to continental Europe :-p

Sorry to be off topic but I noticed in your signature you have a high flow cat as well? Where did you get yours from and is 250 cell still "legal"? Can it be used with stock exhaust?

[ChaosMaster]

Sorry to be off topic but I noticed in your signature you have a high flow cat as well? Where did you get yours from and is 250 cell still "legal"? Can it be used with stock exhaust?

Wasn't the face lifted CL9's cat 250 cell?

[tonysalib]

Wasn't the face lifted CL9's cat 250 cell?

I would be very surprised if that was the case! I always stock cats were usually around 900 cell.

[ChaosMaster]

I can't remember the exact, but I do recall that the original CL9 prefacelift, had a 900 cell or something very restrictive. Post FaceLift though, was of a much lower cell, perhaps 300-400. Less than half, that I'm sure off.

[Fredoops]

Pre facelift: 900 cell
post facelift: 400 cell

Mine: 250 cell.

Oh yeah it made a difference...

[TRaNz]

Got a new mod, a strawberry air freshner. like tree shaped n shizz.
i think im cool......i think.....

[tonysalib]

Pre facelift: 900 cell
post facelift: 400 cell

Mine: 250 cell.

Oh yeah it made a difference...

Where abouts did you get yours?

[Fredoops]

Where abouts did you get yours?

Off a member here... Long ago

I got my header/cat/cusco lower H bar and RSB off him for $550 all up.




Haha I'll be getting the Hondata Reflash + the Blitz Touch B.R.A.I.N to see how everything is going :P

Touch brain?!? That's like $500 bucks! You could just get the kpro at that cost man.

[MingZai]

Off a member here... Long ago

I got my header/cat/cusco lower H bar and RSB off him for $550 all up.





Touch brain?!? That's like $500 bucks! You could just get the kpro at that cost man.

Borrowing my friends :)
Just for you Fred haha,
gotta see if I can wipe the CEL codes myself with the Flashing option with the Touch Brain

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I think your a little bit misinformed in relation to the blitz b.r.a.i.n (or I am lol). but it doesn't literally flash the ecu to say no cel codes it just wipes them but if the error occurs again it will through the same code.

That is my understanding of the product anyway

[Fredoops]

Some good info there..., pulley, where is the best place to look for it and what brand as im not familiar with them at all.

A member here's selling a set of UR underdriven pulley set... Cheap as too.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?163209-Unorthodox-Racing-Ultra-SS-Pulley-Set-matching-Gates-Belt-Suits-Accord-Euro-CL9

[Fredoops]

Alright, figured it's time to give an update on what im doing to my car... lol

Some of you know I've got a HKS ground kit (purple) on the car, but frankly it's too short for my needs.

So im making my own, and while im doing that i'll replace the battery terminal as well.

Getting 25ft (7.6m) of 8gauge red wire from Amazon for $25 bucks shipped (OMG).
and just gonna pick up some battery terminals and ring terminals off SCA.

Gonna ground the following points
- Throttlebody
- Auto Transmission
- Injector base and sensors
- Engine Block
- Chassis x2

I dont think I'd use all 7m of wire tho, but anyway, it's cheap.


Also going to replace the unifilter that came with the icebox with K&N (probably add some seals around the box tho), got the K&N off Amazon for $40... SHIPPED.

[marquee]

Will you just be going straight to ground from those points or link them to a central hub and ground that hub?

[roony]

So im making my own, and while im doing that i'll replace the battery terminal as well.

a DIY coming up? Great price on the K&N!

[Fredoops]

Will you just be going straight to ground from those points or link them to a central hub and ground that hub?

Link to the central hub (which is the battery terminal with 2x grounds connected)


a DIY coming up? Great price on the K&N!
maybe

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So like a 4-2-1 Ground wiring kit lol

[YER801]

fredoops... still waiting on ur flashpro test, im so keen for someone to get it working soon or ill just have to go with a piggyback -.-

[Fredoops]

fredoops... still waiting on ur flashpro test, im so keen for someone to get it working soon or ill just have to go with a piggyback -.-
We all should hear from MingZai very soon, he's got something cooking from Hondata already, so i'll just tag it off him afterwards, since we're both auto.

Need $$ for rims and suspension.


So like a 4-2-1 Ground wiring kit lol

More like 5/6 to one, I do still have the "L" shapes braket from the HKS kit so I will reuse that.

The only problem is the auto tranny ground, I can't reach it an I got no jack to lift the darn car up


a DIY coming up? Great price on the K&N!
It's still on amazon if anyone else wants a set.

[sodaz]

I've used a grounding kit before and it doesn't really do anything in terms of performance except put a bunch of wires under the hood. The best bang for the buck items are Headers (with HF cat), Lightweight flywheel (manual), Pulleys and Intake. The rest do almost nothing in terms of power.

For handling, Suspension, Rear Sway bar is all you really need.

[marquee]

Not really a performance thing more used to keep the voltage as stable as possible which result in possible smoothing of idle and less voltage drop when electrics used.

[YER801]

Sounds like a plan, mines a manual so ill pioneer it manual style if he succeeds

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http://img.tapatalk.com/65723349-c55c-be64.jpg

If you want this either of you. Its yours for free.

Btw ming i saw your car outside David and cammys with all your mates

[Fredoops]

http://img.tapatalk.com/65723349-c55c-be64.jpg

If you want this either of you. Its yours for free.

Btw ming i saw your car outside David and cammys with all your mates

dude...lol...

thats a bit overkill

Thanks for the offer, i'll reuse the L braket that came with the HKS set.

[marquee]

Lol never got around to using it. Would look cool though.

[Fredoops]

Just realised yall probably never seem my euro

Not theres much to look at.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/silverster/EuroOOPS3.jpg
^^PS I love Sonax

[MingZai]

Will be looking for a stocky looking Euro on Melbourne Roads now.... LOL

[Fredoops]

Will be looking for a stocky looking Euro on Melbourne Roads now.... LOL

with an interstate plate.

[MingZai]

and it driving on the footpaths :D

[Fredoops]

and an unsecured dog inside.

[MingZai]

LMAO hahaha so your not in the East side yeh?

[roony]

hes in north. Im like 10 mins from his place and yet to see him, havnt seen a blue euro on this side, so his wouldnt be hard to miss (esp with the brissy plates).

[Fredoops]

hes in north. Im like 10 mins from his place and yet to see him, havnt seen a blue euro on this side, so his wouldnt be hard to miss (esp with the brissy plates).

Who said it's QLD plate :P

I dont drive around much cause I live directly opposite the train station.

and driving around melbourne so far just makes me want to kill something (avg speed 28 kph...)

so the euro stays mostly indoors.

[roony]

Who said it's QLD plate :P

I dont drive around much cause I live directly opposite the train station.

and driving around melbourne so far just makes me want to kill something (avg speed 28 kph...)

so the euro stays mostly indoors.

yea i know the feeling. Im just next to the station too, so i have to find excuses to take the car out. hmm what excuse for tom...

[TRaNz]

Just realised yall probably never seem my euro

Not theres much to look at.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/silverster/EuroOOPS3.jpg
^^PS I love Sonax


hes in north. Im like 10 mins from his place and yet to see him, havnt seen a blue euro on this side, so his wouldnt be hard to miss (esp with the brissy plates).


omgz, North? where abouts? id like to hang out with some CL9 owners from the northern area at Mill Park Maccas.....LOL

[Fredoops]

omgz, North? where abouts? id like to hang out with some CL9 owners from the northern area at Mill Park Maccas.....LOL
Sorry dude, Preston.

[TRaNz]

Sorry dude, Preston.

Awwww....i dun like Bell St Maccas....LOL
Maybe venture out to MPM one day =P

[roony]

omgz, North? where abouts? id like to hang out with some CL9 owners from the northern area at Mill Park Maccas.....LOL

I guess im not that far north given that I had to google where mill park was lol. Northcote.

[TRaNz]

I guess im not that far north given that I had to google where mill park was lol. Northcote.

now both them areas are def not low car friendly.....hahaha

[roony]

now both them areas are def not low car friendly.....hahaha

+1, only 30 mm lowered and still scrape if im not extra careful.

[Fredoops]

Update:

Replaced my eBay tower bar with Cusco for some jdmness :-)


Update2:

Decided to limit spending $$$ on the euro.
Decided to save up and buy a Volvo next year (or this Xmas).

[roony]

which model u got in mind?

[Fredoops]

S80. With the 4.4 liter Yamaha v8

[roony]

lol was just looking at that one.

[MingZai]

I dislike the S80

[ChaosMaster]

S80 is alright, nice V8, nice ride. Not really that sporty though, but prob one of the best family cars around. Not sure about Volvo reliability wise though, haven't heard much on them. Then again, even the CL9 has it's flaws.

[adis]

I just finished getting touch up tune after doing few mods such as flex pipe, cat and deleted one of the resonators. I also opted to tune the car on 100 unleaded petrol from UNITED petrol station.

Here are the graphs and ill summarise them all below:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8206/adzz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/adzz.jpg/)

92kw Stock standard, dyno reads slightly lower figures.
Chart 1
RED-Headers and K&N intake only. 104KW.
Headers and K&N intake, tuned with Greddy Ultimate on 98 ultimate. 116kw

Chart 2
Headers, K&N intake, Replaced flex pipe, Cat, deleted resonator,100 unleaded. 129KW
Headers, K&N intake, Replaced flex pipe, Cat, deleted resonator tuned with greddy ultimate on 100 unleaded.135KW

Torque from standard 400NM increased to 512Nm. Gains all round.

Here a video of dyno run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhfjsEpxMxM&feature=youtu.be

[Fredoops]

512 nm? For real?

Cause according the spec sheets our k24a3 only makes 223nm at the crank stock.

[adis]

512 nm? For real?

Cause according the spec sheets our k24a3 only makes 223nm at the crank stock.

Every single dyno is different. Dont look at final figures. Look at before and after and that will show you how much over stock the car is making. Altho i never dynod the car stock standard, only after headers and intake, i got 104kw. Im
Guessling low 90kw would be stock figure on this particular dyno.

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A tuned 4wd will struggle to make 500NM of torque

[adis]

I know, dyno is a tuning tool, u look at difference before and after. Thats all. Fark

[marquee]

Dyno is a measuring tool not a tuning tool.

[adis]

Dyno is a measuring tool not a tuning tool.
Wasting my time

[Rudy]

lmao @ 400/ 500nm. Good 1 bro

[Fredoops]

Dts dynos are known to provide lower (slightly) HP figures.

I recken the torque is not the raw figure, but the converted figure according to SAEj1349 standard. I think the assumptions or friction calculation done by the dyno shop has something to do with the abnormal torque reading.

[adis]

lmao @ 400/ 500nm. Good 1 bro

Allow me to explain myself once more before i give up.

These figures of nm dont mean anything to me. I wouldnt care if they read 1000nm. Im comparing my car to my car. Not my car to someone elses car on different dyno. Im comparing my car, with few mods to my car modded and tuned, on the same dyno.

Ive placed these graphs to help others and of course for people to comment on before and after. Best i got is people talking about unrealistic nm figures which i dont really giver a shit about. As i said, im comparing before and after. Now i see why ppl dont post here much tho.

[adis]

Dts dynos are known to provide lower (slightly) HP figures.

I recken the torque is not the raw figure, but the converted figure according to SAEj1349 standard. I think the assumptions or friction calculation done by the dyno shop has something to do with the abnormal torque reading.

For some reason the dyno does read slightly lower figures. We had a dyno day (supra) and pretty much every single car showed less than expected. Mates supra was supposed to pull 470kw. Got it up to only see 411kw. Fair bit of difference, hub dyno to this dyno.

[Rudy]

Allow me to explain myself once more before i give up.

These figures of nm dont mean anything to me. I wouldnt care if they read 1000nm. Im comparing my car to my car. Not my car to someone else,


Yep chill bro, nothing we don't already know. All I meant was that I lold when I saw the numbers, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

[felixd]

Yep chill bro, nothing we don't already know. All I meant was that I lold when I saw the numbers, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Cant hear the VTEC inthe video . is that mean no power ?

[adis]

Cant hear the VTEC inthe video . is that mean no power ?

Ye its shit