[CL9] Euro Mods

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Hey Guys,

Just thought I'd start a thread as I was reading through 200+ pages on CU2 mods.

CL9 Boys and Girls we need to start showing off a bit.

What to include:
Your mods and a mini review on them
Engine Mods
Suspension Mods
Body/Interior Mods

Ill start off

Engine:
JTune CAI
Jtune 4-2-1 Headers
Jtune Hi-Flow Cat
Jtune Cat Back
Hondata Heatshield

Suspension:
Whiteline Rear Sway Bar 18mm
Everything else stock

Body/Interior Mods:
XCarlink
Mugen Visors
No lights on headunit (Thanks Honda)

Review:
Coming from a corolla AE92 carby auto I was surprised how quick this was. I quickly found an Intake and thought this sounds amazing however didnt feel much performance. I was looking around for an exhaust for while couldnt be bothered getting one shipped and took up an offer was impossible to refuse so got the JTune Exhaust. First impressions on it was wow this car has just become everything i wanted, It was quite when idling and when driving normally and when giving it a bit it was not loud not droney just nice. I then got the Heatsheild, not sure if i felt anything but its in there now. Along time passed then got the Rear Sway Bar from npcan (top bloke) gosh did this make a difference made me turn without much oversteer on stock suspension there is still bodyroll but you can feel the car wanting to turn much better.

That is all whos next

[Fredoops]

Alright.... my CL9... Butch is her name. (just for lols)

Engine
Comptech Icebox intake (not installed)
Pivot Raizin Voltage Stablizer
HKS Ground kit
DC Sports Ceramic Header with custom double braided flex pipe (not installed)
Random Technology 250 cell high flow metal cat (not installed)

Handling/Suspension
eBay Tower strut bar
Cusco Type II lower brace: 4 point brace (not installed)
Comptech 22mm Rear Sway bar (not installed)
Stock Suspension

Body/ICE
Chrome B pillar highlights
HID conversion (not installed)

Wheels
Stock 16 inch (9kg each, oem enkei's iirc)
Nexen/Roadstone N7000 rubber

Braking
88 Rotors Slotted/X-drilled rotor F&R

Fluids
Engine: Mobile One Extended Performance (US import) 5w-30
ATF: Honda OEM (ATF-Z1).... switching to Redline D4 by Xmas


Review
Had this SoB for 7 years, modding it never came cross my mind till recently, hence the whole list of modes thats '(not installed)'. So I'll review on what I Do have installed

- eBay tower bar does the job just fine (its the same as a Cusco unit except a bit heavier), sharper steering and all, but I reckon once I have the lower strut brace installed it'll be even better.

- PR Voltage stabilizer and HKS ground kit only cost me $100 in total (decent deal), the car starts easier and idles more smoothly now, which is nice, considering the OEM ground wires are all but fooked after 7 years.

- The Nexen/Roadstone N7000 was a cheap tire, but IMO is handles better in wet than the Kumho Ku31 I had before, and quieter, except the side wall is a lot softer compared to the Kumho, which makes it look deflated all the time, but it IS a tough tyre, after a year the original rubber studs are still there on the side, I am not kidding.

- The 88 Rotors brake rotors, I got front and rear slotted/x-drilled rotors from USA for $270 delivered (thats BEFORE $AUD went parity, in comparison a part of Front RDA slotted is approx $220), cant say anything bad about them, compared them to a set of RDA slotted rotors, they are about the same quality... Except 88Rotors is made in USA... So made by Mexicans instead of Chinese.... not that it makes a damn difference.

- The Mobile 1 EP Engine Oil. CHEAP Horsepower right there, coming from Castrol GTX and Magnetec, the Mobile One EP made a world of difference, engine revs freer, harder and quicker. and it warms up quicker.

*UPDATE*
Got the CT-E icebox in, took 2 man a whole afternoon to get the SOB in.
Why? cause it's made badly, I was unfortunate enough to get the late 2009 early 2010 stock from a local seller, the plastic cast was in consistant, and I cant get the bolt to bite the bottom half as a result.
I ended up having to grab a stanley knife and shave the resin off the bolt area to get it to fit (theres like 100 grams of resin/plastic shavings in the garage afterwards).

Performance wise, it's very quiet under 3000 rpm with less than 40% throttle, and Loud when you go WOT, the engine response is quicker and mid range is a lot better.

Future mods
Rims and a set of street coilovers (looking at wither GAB or HT/FoF)
lightened pulley (Ralco RZ or NST, same thing)
Hondata/P2R intake manifold heat gasket . AND Port the Intake Manifold at the same time. (might as well since you are taking it off)
some of the ebay rubber/soft plastic splitter thingys for front and sides (to protect from scratching)

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Get the p2r its cheaper couldnt be that much difference im pretty sure its the same material.

I didnt do future mods

Kpro or new ecu
Toda spec c cams
Comptech sc

Imediate future
Bc racing coilovers
Te37 18"x9 +30 or xxr522 same specs

Leaving sc till last though

[Smogol]

My CL9 so far...
Engine:
Simota Carbon CAI
Yellow top battery
Full custom exhaust from headers all the way through

Handling/Brakes:
BC Racing Coilovers
Rear Sway Bar (Future)
Cusco Strut Bar (Future)

Front RDA Slotted Rotors
QFM Brake Pads

Interior:
Junction Produce Curtains
Junction Produce Neckpads x 4
Junction Produce Fusa & Tsuna knot
2 x Pioneer Champion 10" Subs
Pioneer Amp
2 x Pioneer speakers that i cbb putting in.

Exterior:
Mugen Visors
5 Spoke dish rims (Future...still trying to find a nice set)
HID 6000K Bulbs
HID 3000K Foglights

Review:
going to do more later on when i get some moneyz...
But,
Simota CAI: Surprisingly i wasn't expecting much more from this because i had to replace my panel filter, but in the end i just opted for the cheap CAI. Sounds awesome goes well with my exhaust system, in terms of performance, it gave a slight increase in response its noticable but not major this thing was about 200$ so can't expect much. But still like it.

Custom Exhaust: Kinda got sick of reading all these different brands and piping and all that crap, dont have the time so put it through an exhaust shop, pretty down to earth guy, told him i wanted a good high flowing system with maximum increase in power but under EPA in terms of sound. Just not that much of a fan of loud idles. Yeah hooked me up with a full system in day dropped it off before work and got it after work sounding awesome. Felt the gains better response, and bit more of a pull than the stock CL9. Bit of a mix between mild steel and stainless steel i think it was.

Yellow Top batter: Optima yellow top, expensive but worth it...I'm the kind of guy that leaves his lights on, done it twice now, left it on for 2-3 hours, car starts fine. Bought it also for my sound system.

BC Racing Coilovers: I think these are pretty good, not much of a track person just wanted to lower my car with a bit of improvement in handling. Reduced my body roll by quite a bit, but still need my sway bars.

All the other stuff, I'll review if you request it, but pretty self explanatory, neck pads and curtains are cool and comfy makes my vehicle a bit jazzy. But yeah, when i get the extra cash other parts will go in.

Have fun modding =]

[Fredoops]

Simota Carbon intake, it's very similar to the Mugen design, IE: direction shielded SRI.

It's not very popular here but it is a very reputable brand.

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In relation to swaybars I got whiteline 18mm non adjustable but alot of people buy the comptech 22mm fully adjustable.

Never been in a euro with a comptech rsb but mine is awesome as

[Fredoops]

In relation to swaybars I got whiteline 18mm non adjustable but alot of people buy the comptech 22mm fully adjustable.

Never been in a euro with a comptech rsb but mine is awesome as

I got it. havent installed yet tho :-)

Ps: I don't think comptech is adjustable, you might be thinking Progress RSB

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How do you fimd the bc racing coilovers im thinking of getting them aling with a rear camber kit

[jono_l]

Engine:
-CT Engineering Icebox

Suspension:
-eBay strut tower bar
-Ultra Racing lower arm bar
-Progress 22mm rear sway bar - soft setting

Body/Interior Mods:
-JDM blue tinted anti-glare convex mirrors
-JDM stainless steel door scuff plates
-Euro R / Sport grille

Lighting:
-Osram D2S 66240CBI 5000K HID bulbs
-Raybrig 4500K parkers/licence plate lights
-35W H8 halogen reverse lights

Multimedia:
-Boston Acoustics S953 6x9s on rear parcel shelf
-Parrot CK3000 Bluetooth kit

Quick Reviews:
Icebox: Throttle response seems improved, can't really say it made a huge difference in power, but from an engineering standpoint the design should theoretically work. Noise-wise it is louder than stock at all rev ranges, high RPMs sounds nice. High engine loads at Low-RPMs induces a lot of booming resonance, no doubt due to removal of resonator chamber, which may or may not be a deal breaker.

Suspension mods: Strut tower bar and UR lower arm bar both appeared to improve steering turn-in - strut bar alone didn't make a huge difference, but with the lower arm bar I'd say it was fairly noticeable. Rear sway was awesome, massive improvement to turn in, cornered noticeably flatter and made the car more neutral. I'd consider the "Soft" setting on a Progress sway to be near neutral and a good balance on a daily driven vehicle - personally would not go any stiffer. Would recommend the rear sway as a first mod

Lighting: Osram 66240CBI are reported to be some of the brightest 35W D2S bulbs you can buy, at 3400lumen over standard OEM 3200lumen (and less for some aftermarket D2S bulbs!), now fitted OEM to some new European cars (Benz I believe). Cost too much, but love them - a pure white colour, and definitely brighter than stock. Raybrig 4500K parkers match these fairly well. H8 halogen lights in reverse lights are definitely brighter than stock, but still pretty woeful - most of the company cars I've driven do a better job lighting up my driveway at night.

Multimedia: The Boston S953 to appears to perform adequately even unamped, as they are fairly efficient speakers. Am generally quite happy with them, tighter bass than stock. Waiting to find the time to install matching front 2-ways. Parrot Bluetooth kit was a great buy at $65 off eBay refurbed - harness used to install it cost another $15. Great kit, works very well, automatically mutes speakers during calls, and plays calls through front speakers.

Future mods:
-RacingBrake ET300 front pads going in next weekend hopefully - will attempt to use them to clear OEM pad deposits as I've got bad brake shudder. Matching rear pads will go in when OEM ones are worn.
-Boston S50 2-ways - still sitting in box, will attempt later.
-Hoping to get Koni Yellows & Tein H-techs as funds allow. Do not want to stray too far from stock spring rates for ride comfort concerns, nor do I want to drop the car by too much as I've got a nasty driveway entrance.

Closing thoughts? The CL9 is a very good platform even in stock form. I recently started a job in the auto industry in a role which involves benchmarking/evaluating vehicles, and many people that I work with consider the stock CL9 to be a benchmark for how a medium car should handle - very dynamic without sacrificing comfort. Most actually feel that the CU2 was actually a step backwards dynamically, just as many feel that the current Jetta is also step backwards dynamically as compared to the previous Golf-based Jetta. And whilst there are certain areas where the Euro isn't quite up to par with the new cars these days, it still manages to put a smile on my face each time I get behind the wheel.

[Smogol]

Yeah the BC Racing Coilovers are pretty good i reckon but it depends on what your doing with your car, its mainly for street maybe a little bit of tracking but i wouldnt push it, the Euro has natural camber at the rear looks good but yeah a camber kit would help i was thinking of getting some too when i get my progress rear sway bar.
btw, Jono where did you get the stainless steel scuff plates from? I tried contacting one place that use to have it but they said they dont do them anymore.

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Just to let you know jono jdmyard is selling eibach prokit for 295 the best price on these springs in australia

[raffyboy]

My CL9 before selling it

Engine:
Custom CAI
RBC manifold
Toda Headers and customer 3" dual exhaust
stage 4 clutch and lighten flywheel
adjustable cams + pulleys
hondata kpro piggy on stock ECU
Cusco oil catch can

Handling/Brakes:
BC Coilovers
Front and rear RDA Slotted Rotors
Bendix brake pads
CL7 front and rear swaybar
cusco front strut
GMAX 17x8.5 drift 6 wheels with federals

Interior:
Stock

Exterior:
Mugen lip
Honda grill debadge

Review:
Car is excellent - I planned to S/C the car but I have to weigh in some factors and just decided to sell it, then bought myself a DC5R and kept my Stagea as family car

[jono_l]

Just to let you know jono jdmyard is selling eibach prokit for 295 the best price on these springs in australia

Thanks for the heads up mate! The Pro Kit would drop the car too much for me though - 1.6" in the front would mean that I'd scrape onto my own driveway. Luckily the Teins aren't too much more expensive shipped from the states.



btw, Jono where did you get the stainless steel scuff plates from? I tried contacting one place that use to have it but they said they dont do them anymore.

Honda still make these (or have them in stock at least) as far as I'm concerned. JDMConcept can get a set in for you, as can Japanparts.com (as a special order) the last time I checked. I got mine from supergt.com.hk - they were cheapest by far. I bought their last set in stock though, was told that parts ordered in would take up to a month lead time, plus extra time to ship from HK to Aus. Part number is 08F05-sea-010. Give me a shout if you want some pictures - I left my car at work tonight but will have it back tomorrow.

[opilot87]

Would really like to see some pictures if you get a chance?!

Ollie

[jono_l]

Sorry mate, took another car home so the Accord is still parked at work. Will be able to get pics tomorrow evening or definitely over the weekend though

[jono_l]

As promised:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1259/imag0236d.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/imag0236d.jpg/)

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1353/imag0237h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/imag0237h.jpg/)

p.s. Beige interior has different part numbers - be wary.

[Fredoops]

*Update*

Comptech/CT-E Icebox review added.

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Did you have to remove the resonator ... don't know to much about the ice box beside that it's legal

[Fredoops]

Did you have to remove the resonator ... don't know to much about the ice box beside that it's legal\\

yep, the front bumper was off, and the resonator/pipe/airbox is sitting in the garden now.

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Hopefully it's watering it..... got some pictures of it?

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Just doing some reading and look what i found on the EPA website http://epanote2.epa.vic.gov.au/EPA/publications.nsf/2f1c2625731746aa4a256ce90001cbb5/c90ec843f3bbbe8fca256d9f00181c59/$FILE/1031.pdf Look there for more info.


1. Intake systems
Intake systems are designed to ensure that the
correct air/fuel ratio is available to the engine for the
cleanest burn to minimise exhaust emissions.
Systems that provide excess air or fuel can create
high exhaust emissions from the vehicle. Fuel or
other hydrocarbon vapour that escapes as
evaporative emissions can lead to the formation of
photochemical smog.
Replacement air cleaners are permitted provided
that they have all connections and systems present
on the original air cleaner and operate in an
identical manner.

(a) Open element or pod type air cleaners on
carburetted vehicles are not permitted.
(b) Dry element pod type air cleaners are
permitted on EFI vehicles. Oiled, oil-soaked or
fluid-treated elements are not permitted. Any
sensors integral to the original system must
be retrofitted to the same approximate
location.

Does this mean if it is a dry type filter it is legal. Mine isn't but if it was would it be legal.

[Fredoops]

Just doing some reading and look what i found on the EPA website http://epanote2.epa.vic.gov.au/EPA/publications.nsf/2f1c2625731746aa4a256ce90001cbb5/c90ec843f3bbbe8fca256d9f00181c59/$FILE/1031.pdf Look there for more info.


Does this mean if it is a dry type filter it is legal. Mine isn't but if it was would it be legal.

pretty much. but not like any lowly paid EPA/police officer would bother to remove your bumper to find out.... lol

lost my iPhone. so photos has to wait soz...




PS: I WANT THIS:

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/gallery/var/resizes/CLEARANCE-ITEMS/IMAG0913.jpg?m=1317514185
FASTBRAKES/AP RACING Forged caliper 4-pot BBK. Fits 04-08 TSX, 09- TSX, 99-08 TL non brembo, 01-03 CL. 12.2" one piece rotors.

heeltoe's selling them for $950 + shipping

[SPQR]

Fitted Koni Sport all around earlier this year. I think I regret it. Ride is far too stiff for everyday driving. It is great at speed but on suburban streets...My back hurts.

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Change your dampening and what springs you using

[Fredoops]

I recken if you just wanna drop the car a bit you'd better of just use H&R OE springs, drips .75 inches front and rear... and handling is pretty much OEM.

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kPro or coilovers guys... can't decide between the two

[Fredoops]

kPro or coilovers guys... can't decide between the two
You'd better off with Coilovers if it's a daily driver, kPro = no vsa, no cruise etc.

[MingZai]

Got the Testpipe / Hiflow CAT + Headers installedddd !!

[richard_k]

nice work man! i got my skunk2 catback and topspeed headers installed the other day :)

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good work guys ming zai i wanna see it tommorow if you come.... what cat back are you using atm?

[Fredoops]

My DC sports header and R/T cat/testpipe is going on next wednesday along with Cusco Type 2 and Comptech Swaybar! Excited!

[MingZai]

richard how much was ur catback??

[richard_k]

$1100 alone

[MingZai]

did you get it off marcus?

[richard_k]

Who's Marcus? Lol mine was brand new. Jdmyard bro

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Marcus is the owner of heel toe

[Fredoops]

front lower strut & RSB
Well the car is lighter handling wise, steering is lighter (dont ask me how it just friggin does) and more responsive. the front end just bites and rear end just goes.
- understeers much less now

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You getting a cat back?

[Fredoops]

You getting a cat back?

Nope. Reason being:

1. $1 grand for 2kw max.... more of a wank really...
2. to be honest I don't mind the quiet while on the highway
3. Police can see a shiny exhaust... they cant see header/cat.
4. need to save for rims.


PS: definitely need an ECU re-tune of some sort to optimist the setup.... The car's running way to rich... it's gonna hurt by fuel bill.

[Fredoops]

STUPID %^&*ING HONDA ECU!

It's learnt the header and intake and the high flow cat....

All the throaty sound? gone
Extra urge? blunted.

now I hear is the extra hummm muffled noise when stump on the gas... it's running rich...
does it kill them to make the car run a little leaner?

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I sense a catback coming

[Fredoops]

I sense a catback coming

that will have to wait till I move to melbourne in a few weeks

[MingZai]

yeahh booyyy more euros in Melbourne <3

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Too many euros in melbourne i counted like 15 in my work car park.

[aaronng]

STUPID %^&*ING HONDA ECU!

It's learnt the header and intake and the high flow cat....

All the throaty sound? gone
Extra urge? blunted.

now I hear is the extra hummm muffled noise when stump on the gas... it's running rich...
does it kill them to make the car run a little leaner?

You sure it is not because the weather is starting to get warmer?

You can accelerate a bit and if it sounds unthroaty, just release the accelerator and then hit it again at 3/4. You should hear the throaty sound come back and then you can floor it all the way. :)

[Fredoops]

You sure it is not because the weather is starting to get warmer?

You can accelerate a bit and if it sounds unthroaty, just release the accelerator and then hit it again at 3/4. You should hear the throaty sound come back and then you can floor it all the way. :)

Not the weather, it's only like 3 days apart

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Yer mine sounds much better when its colder

[MingZai]

Ever since my header / hiflowcat combo stuff has been added on there's this raspy / air wushing out sound haha.... not exactly raspy but yeah... dunno if it's normal :p

on the other note... I might have a GENUINE luckystar bodykit coming in.. cause I can't find a genuine mugen front bumper....

[Fredoops]

Ever since my header / hiflowcat combo stuff has been added on there's this raspy / air wushing out sound haha.... not exactly raspy but yeah... dunno if it's normal :p

on the other note... I might have a GENUINE luckystar bodykit coming in.. cause I can't find a genuine mugen front bumper....

Air wushing? thats stainless steel header....
Hence Why I got DC sport... mild steel with ceramic coating... VERY quiet...


PS... It seems the Im the only one atm who got so many struts up the front on stock suspension lol!

[richard_k]

Yer mine sounds much better when its colder

agreed my catback is louder at start up and when it's generally colder


Ever since my header / hiflowcat combo stuff has been added on there's this raspy / air wushing out sound haha.... not exactly raspy but yeah... dunno if it's normal :p

on the other note... I might have a GENUINE luckystar bodykit coming in.. cause I can't find a genuine mugen front bumper....

you'd be talking about the hissing noise the headers make. it's pretty common for headers..i get it too :)

[aaronng]

Ever since my header / hiflowcat combo stuff has been added on there's this raspy / air wushing out sound haha.... not exactly raspy but yeah... dunno if it's normal :p


Which header are you using? Some cheaper headers can have cracks develop in the flex joiner after a short while.

Melb seems more fun. Not that many modded Euros in Sydney.

[Fredoops]

Which header are you using? Some cheaper headers can have cracks develop in the flex joiner after a short while.

Melb seems more fun. Not that many modded Euros in Sydney.

He got a Weapon R race header hooked up to a metal car welded onto a test pipe iirc
So no flex pipe :-)

[richard_k]

Not many in qld either D:

[Fredoops]

Result?
front lower strut & RSB
Well the car is lighter handling wise, steering is lighter (dont ask me how it just friggin does) and more responsive. the front end just bites and rear end just goes.
- understeers much less now


Update:
Just came back from a night run of Mt Coot-tha here in brissy, as a comparison to a run 2 weeks ago (without the mods installed)

Liking the handling with the bars and the RSB, very much so.
- Bugger all understeer, point and goes with confidence.
- Lighter (dunno how) and sharper/more direct steering, and you feel the grip more (even with stock suspension).

All in all, RSB/TOWER/LOWER bars are good investments

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I only have the rsb and it feels good i can imagine it with all the other stuff

[MingZai]

Hmmmmmm guys look up luckystar front for euro... so agressiveee but I like it haha probs going to go with that kit with the oem wing ~ different look in melbourne :p probably the only one with genuine kit too!

[aaronng]

With the thicker RSB it is fun without understeer. But when driving at the limit in a long sweeping corner, it is quite unnerving how light and floaty the rear feels, so much so that the car feels like it is going to swap ends.

[shmivic]

With the thicker RSB it is fun without understeer. But when driving at the limit in a long sweeping corner, it is quite unnerving how light and floaty the rear feels, so much so that the car feels like it is going to swap ends.

+1

Noticed that too, hence why mine is now back to oem RSB

[Fredoops]

+1

Noticed that too, hence why mine is now back to oem RSB

I didnt notice that at all, but then Im on Stock suspension and running lower Psi's up the rear than front.

did y'all have harder suspension up the rear tho?

[shmivic]

^ i have Spoon full-spec damper kit.. So yeah pretty firm.

[Fredoops]

^ i have Spoon full-spec damper kit.. So yeah pretty firm.
I reckon it's a fine balancing act getting it right between understeer and oversteer. IMO I don't think it's possible to acheive completely neutral handling with the euro, IMHO the Euro should understeer slightly at the limit

Im not a Lotus engineer so...how to do that I am not completely sure.

[shmivic]

You can have a car setup to be as close as possible to neutral, but as to how the car reacts is down to the driver.

[aaronng]

I didnt notice that at all, but then Im on Stock suspension and running lower Psi's up the rear than front.

did y'all have harder suspension up the rear tho?

Yup, I've got Tein Flex with its 10kg/mm front and 6kg/mm rear. I wonder what is the stock spring rate.

[aaronng]

I reckon it's a fine balancing act getting it right between understeer and oversteer. IMO I don't think it's possible to acheive completely neutral handling with the euro, IMHO the Euro should understeer slightly at the limit

Yeah, totally agree that it is a fine balancing act. Like shmivic mentioned, even at the limit, the car reacts to the driver input. So in my case, I am at the limit and the car is actually neutral. But and slight input into the steering wheel actually causes the weight in the rear to shift too much at once for my liking, which makes it difficult to finely control the front wheels without upsetting the car. And then there is the throttle pedal where I can floor the accelerator to cause it to scrub out and understeer or then suddenly lift totally to make the rear even more floaty (which then feels like the limit before oversteer). So for my car's set up, that fine neutral balance is there, but feels like a narrow ledge where it is about to fall off into oversteer or the other way into understeer. I can't change the direction of the car without falling off that edge. :(

It also depends on the type of tyres used. I think it is time to head to Wakefield against the feel the new limits of the Euro with my new tyres.

[Fredoops]

Yup, I've got Tein Flex with its 10kg/mm front and 6kg/mm rear. I wonder what is the stock spring rate.

Front Spring rate 280 lb./in. times converstion factor of 0.0179 gives you 5kg/mm
Rear Spring rate 175 lb./in. times converstion factor of 0.0179 gives you 3.13kg/mm

So your car's pretty much 2x as firm as stock

[aaronng]

Front Spring rate 280 lb./in. times converstion factor of 0.0179 gives you 5kg/mm
Rear Spring rate 175 lb./in. times converstion factor of 0.0179 gives you 3.13kg/mm

So your car's pretty much 2x as firm as stock
Dug through my old posts from years ago and found the same numbers as your calculated ones. :thumbsup:

It is pretty stiff for stock. In fact, the rear of the stock spring is stiffer than Tein S-tech spring.

[Fredoops]

Dug through my old posts from years ago and found the same numbers as your calculated ones. :thumbsup:

It is pretty stiff for stock. In fact, the rear of the stock spring is stiffer than Tein S-tech spring.

OMG I just noticed, well isnt that interesting!

Personally I'd get H-Tech.... Lesser drop and firmer rear.

It's probably stock like tbh

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Ok so ill keep my car for a year.. Just finished uni so wanna wait till i get ajob then buy something.

[rodsta15]

has anybody dropped cams into the k24? thinking of doing a bit of work to mine

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Most people who do engine conversions have but they have civics and integras. Wont be much of a gain without a tune though

[DEIFIC]

has anybody dropped cams into the k24? thinking of doing a bit of work to mine

have a look at this guys build.. maybe you can speak to him about itt..
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?92924-***K24Z1-project-teaser***

[aaronng]

With cams, you are moving the peak torque upwards the rpm curve. So your engine has to be able to sustain the higher rpm at a higher torque for longer durations than stock. So dropping cams in alone might give you nice peak power for the dyno, using that peak power frequently will shorten engine life. Hence the reason why people also go for uprated pistons, rods, valve springs, retainers etc.

[Fredoops]

With cams, you are moving the peak torque upwards the rpm curve. So your engine has to be able to sustain the higher rpm at a higher torque for longer durations than stock. So dropping cams in alone might give you nice peak power for the dyno, using that peak power frequently will shorten engine life. Hence the reason why people also go for uprated pistons, rods, valve springs, retainers etc.

I'd love to try higher compression ratio, should improve the burn, and improve economy if tuned right

[aaronng]

I'd love to try higher compression ratio, should improve the burn, and improve economy if tuned right
Only if it doesn't ping. That depends on both fuel quality and the design of the combustion chamber.

[Fredoops]

Can't wait till my euro comes to Melbourne lol

[marquee]

where about in melbourne u located?

[Fredoops]

Currently in Preston on short term till I found a proper place round Easter burbs like Doncaster

[marquee]

eastern burbs is where its at

[Fredoops]

Where else would an Asian from sunnybank Brisbane would feel at home..

Lmfao

[marquee]

hey im not asian and i live there but my girlfriend is so i suppose thats y

[MingZai]

Booyah preston ahaha im located 10 mins from nthland!

As if those last posts got mkdsrated... Was simply a conversation about our cars and mods and was never has ghe intention of promoting a product... Well not imo

[marquee]

yer probably my fault to be honest. anyways coilovers should be next fortnight i think

[aaronng]

Booyah preston ahaha im located 10 mins from nthland!

As if those last posts got mkdsrated... Was simply a conversation about our cars and mods and was never has ghe intention of promoting a product... Well not imo
Yup, that's why I just cleaned up the thread and did not give out any infractions. :)

More talk about CL9 mods!!!

[marquee]

Aaron wat u got in your euro man

[HuyT]

Aaron wat u got in your euro man

With pics too!

[DEIFIC]

yer probably my fault to be honest. anyways coilovers should be next fortnight i think

what coilovers you getting dude?

[marquee]

Bc racing just low end atm but with the br series havnt heard anything bad with them

[DEIFIC]

^likewise, they are the same ones im looking out to get as soon as i get back from overseas!

[marquee]

Organised to get them in 2 weeks will let you know how they go

[Thor]

Any ideas on a cold air intake that police wont be fussed about for a P plater?

[Fredoops]

Any ideas on a cold air intake that police wont be fussed about for a P plater?

Ct-engineering icebox, looks just like stock

[marquee]

Anything man victoria epa dont care as long as its secured get an injen or jtune if u want stock get a ice box like fred said

It has to be a paper filter like 3a but there not gonna rip off your bumper to check

[aaronng]

Aaron wat u got in your euro man

Not much from the outside. Car looks stock as. Got an Apexi Power intake with a hand made aluminium airbox around it, front strut bar, lower arm bar, rear sway bar, Tein Flex coils, DC Sports copy headers, HF02 flywheel, EuroR LSD, Project Mu NR brake pads, DBA4000 rotors and Yokohama AD08 tyres.

[aaronng]

With pics too!

Seriously, my car looks like any other stock Euro. Like in this pic but without the huge gap in the wheel arches!

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i19/1939_2mg.jpg

[marquee]

http://img.tapatalk.com/65722b73-3bb4-cfa0.jpg

Wam bam

[DEIFIC]

congrats dude!! finally get rid of that huge gap!! how low you thinking of going? and are you going to d.i.y install?

[marquee]

Nah felix is doing thrm as we speak

[marquee]

Before:
http://img.tapatalk.com/65722b73-66a9-3941.jpg
After
http://img.tapatalk.com/65722b73-66d0-7e63.jpg

[marquee]

http://img.tapatalk.com/6572229c-b053-750a.jpg

[Fredoops]

Lol stock 16s

[HuyT]

dont that gaps look too funny when the car is lowered on stock 16"? personal opinion

[richard_k]

http://img.tapatalk.com/6572229c-b053-750a.jpg

Hectic camber for now haha

[marquee]

Lol stock 16s

Yer repping them for a while need to buy stuff for the house im moving in to next year


dont that gaps look too funny when the car is lowered on stock 16"? personal opinion

Not sure what you mean, but the less gap the better


Hectic camber for now haha

yer camber kit coming and then wheel alignment

[richard_k]

dont that gaps look too funny when the car is lowered on stock 16"? personal opinion

Better than not lowered at all on 18's

[marquee]

Better than not lowered at all on 18's

Amen brother

[HuyT]

Better than not lowered at all on 18's

You got a picture? im curious

and Marquee, can u take a side picture, i thought i saw a picture once when someone lowered it on their stock 16" and it just looked like the 16" were way to small for the car.

[marquee]

yer i got some but not at home. going home tommorow some time so will upload then.

The wheels look pretty small but im not buying something im not happy with and what i am happy with is about 2k. other priorities at the moment so it can wait

[marquee]

You got a picture? im curious

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/108525433_d0bed759cb_o.jpg

[HuyT]

if those are 18's i see what richard_k means

[richard_k]

if those are 18's i see what richard_k means

yes it looks sexy doesn't it

[richard_k]

speaking of mods i've got to put my euro r front and rear lips on soon plus my wheels..so lazy atm

[marquee]

and Marquee, can u take a side picture

As requested

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sOdc38Ms7ms/TsZDIm1if8I/AAAAAAAAAIo/0zwg9ZkIL5k/s800/PB171721.JPG

[MingZai]

got my skunk 2 exhaust on the way boys... repping melbourne :D

[richard_k]

got my skunk 2 exhaust on the way boys... repping melbourne :D

Finally haha where from man?

[marquee]

just lowered the front and raised the rear thought it was going to be a headache but its so easy

[marquee]

Not sure if this is a mod but i got an obd2 bluetooth reader works great guns on the android app torque.
http://img.tapatalk.com/7cbc342d-c74f-e72d.jpg

[richard_k]

Not sure if this is a mod but i got an obd2 bluetooth reader works great guns on the android app torque.
http://img.tapatalk.com/7cbc342d-c74f-e72d.jpg

That's pretty cool

[marquee]

For $15 cant go wrong

[marquee]

What do you guys think of the j's bumper. Without the cannards

[opilot87]

Was the Bluetooth obd2 reader only $15?!? I thought they were over $100. Please let me know where you got it from!

Cheers,
Ollie

[marquee]

Ebay is your friend

[shmivic]

^ only if you want to buy crap.

Bit like Bali LOL

[aaronng]

Was the Bluetooth obd2 reader only $15?!? I thought they were over $100. Please let me know where you got it from!

Ebay was the only place that had that $15 unit and it worked so much better than my $100 ELM unit! If you do buy one, the bluetooth passkey is 6789.


^ only if you want to buy crap.

Bit like Bali LOL
Not in this case for the OBD reader. The others are expensive crap that do jack shit.

[marquee]

Yer the hardest part was the pass key everything else was easy the programs leave much to be desired but with k series most details you want are on there.

Whats your intake operating temp when driving aaron? Idle and driving

[HuyT]

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr71/georgeeuro/MountainsCruise041.jpg

what wheels are these?

[richard_k]

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr71/georgeeuro/MountainsCruise041.jpg

what wheels are these?

here's the answer:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?73339-What-are-these-wheels-called&

[rodsta15]

Kspeed Biaggi's

[HuyT]

Thanks guys

[MingZai]

Just as my Skunk 2 is arriving I'm parting out haha :(

[marquee]

becuase you bought a 323i?

[MingZai]

Nah it's a suprise :D hehehe can't wait!! Just suddenly shifting my build that's all... was going for mass performance but then going a different route so yeah!!

[marquee]

let me guess airbags

[MingZai]

LOLOLOL why airbags :( going to see u guys soon at a cruise or meetup soon???? Hows ur euro doing... mine is still in the same state as you saw me last time :p too much shipping time haha

[marquee]

coilovers and scratched exhaust. gotta raise it cant be assed doing it again

[MingZai]

dayummmmm scratched exhaust aint good :(

[richard_k]

What are you parting out?

[Fredoops]

dayummmmm scratched exhaust aint good :(

Lol why u parting out?


Airbags + 22inch rims + loud ass exhaust = Accord Euro: douche edition

[MingZai]

Reaaon im parting out is top secret :D haha hell no to douche edition u know me better than that fredoops :p I havw taste haha

[Fredoops]

If I could take a stab in the dark.... you are going FI. Hence selling the wpr header.

Else you wanna do a K20 EURO R swap.... wait why would you do that.. lol

[MingZai]

Haha maybe :P all shall be revealed in Jan :D

Oooo maybe it's to complete the Euro R look :D

[Fredoops]

Aren't ur euro an auto?

[marquee]

Aren't ur euro an auto?

Yea it is lol

[MingZai]

haha yeah its auto :)

Richard I'm parting out my exhaust, header and intake haha

[richard_k]

supercharger brah :P

[marquee]

Still could of used his exhaust though. To get rid of it he is either selling to get money for show spec or will be getting a turbo. (silly in an auto lol)

[MingZai]

hahaha turbo turbo turbo I want :( I just dislike Hondata atm with how they are organizing their services... sucks for us big time... removing K Pro atm and everything.

[Fredoops]

Ok... which one of you in melbourne has a graphite/silver cl9 with only a modded rear bumper (lowered on 16inch stokies)! I want to know what kit that bumper was from.


hahaha turbo turbo turbo I want :( I just dislike Hondata atm with how they are organizing their services... sucks for us big time... removing K Pro atm and everything.

Hondata had always been anal... thats nothing new

[marquee]

Got a picture

[Fredoops]

Nope saw it coming outta church in the city this arvo

[marquee]

Going to upgrade my grounds soon. My mrs uncle made me a little bar to hook it all up.

http://img.tapatalk.com/65722c97-2e8f-95a7.jpg

[Fredoops]

Jesus got enough grounds there? Lol

You aren't going the audio show car route are ya with that many grounds

[MingZai]

Haha freddy if you see a silver euro thats me :D with no bumper though haha

[marquee]

Jesus got enough grounds there? Lol

You aren't going the audio show car route are ya with that many grounds

Oh gosh no. Will put a ground everywhere thats stock thats it. But he made it for free so im not complaining.

Just gotta buy the cables im thinking blue atm will get a new negative clamp too.

Any ideas where to mount it?

[Fredoops]

Haha freddy if you see a silver euro thats me :D with no bumper though haha

We're you outside scots church this arvo? Lol

[marquee]

We're you outside scots church this arvo? Lol

His car is stock so probably not his car

[MingZai]

^ sleeper stock :p dw I'm going to put on my skunk 2 for fun... so.... yes you will hear me from a mile away LOL

[Fredoops]

His car is stock so probably not his car

Found it, It's a ken style kit...

[MingZai]

who wants a lucky star rear bumper black colour :D

[Fredoops]

Lucky star is a bit eww imo

[marquee]

Lucky star is a bit eww imo

Yep..

[MingZai]

nope not the rear... everyones taste I guess but I really like the rear

[richard_k]

ebay it champ :)

[marquee]

Rear camber kit currently being installed. One side in already and having a break before i do the other side

[marquee]

Both in need a wheel alignment bad now

[richard_k]

i need to start looking for a front camber kit

[MingZai]

bad news.... my right tyre nipped a really really high center curb (like 1/3 of the wheel tall) and it's completely killed my front axles apparently...

Positives are I get my TE37's on tomorrow and negatives are I might need to replace the front axle....

[marquee]

Lower your car before you put the wheels on. Or atleast at tge same time

[marquee]

Richard you got the visors on yet

[richard_k]

Richard you got the visors on yet

haha no not yet, i'm being so lazy :|
planning on gradually getting wheels + visors + front and rear lips all on by end of february. moving to brissy soon so busy atm

[Thor]

hey guys stupid question but can a skunk 2 exhaust currently on heeltoe (listed as 04+) be installed onto an 03 cl9?

[vaikis]

hey guys stupid question but can a skunk 2 exhaust currently on heeltoe (listed as 04+) be installed onto an 03 cl9?

it will fit ;)
As I see here all people start tune from wrong side, first of all engine managment solution then all parts like header, intake manifold, exhausts, good tune and etc. Then you will have all benefits - power, speed and economy ;) Start doing things right, don't waste money on parts which doesn't give any +

P.S. I tuned a lot of CL9 and know how to do thigs right, what to install first and what would be good at the end ;)

[Fredoops]

it will fit ;)
As I see here all people start tune from wrong side, first of all engine managment solution then all parts like header, intake manifold, exhausts, good tune and etc. Then you will have all benefits - power, speed and economy ;) Start doing things right, don't waste money on parts which doesn't give any +

P.S. I tuned a lot of CL9 and know how to do thigs right, what to install first and what would be good at the end ;)

What engine management?? There was many lengthy discussions on this.. but please, if you do know better please enlighten us. In Australia we are kind of in a jiffy when it comes to ECU... Ours is different from all other part of the world, due to emission standards, so the EvAP settings is completely different from everywhere else.

Is it the kpro dual in which you lose VSA and Cruise control?
Is it the US Hondata reflash that gives CELs on AUDM cars
Is it the Jtune reflash which costs friggin 5 times the Hondata reflash that does the exact same thing (approx 1300 euros for a Hondata reflash)?
Is it the haltech interceptor/[insert name of obd2 piggyback here] that does *nothing* to VTC engagement and gets confused by Drive-by-wire on part throttle??
Or is it the new Flashpro from Hondata that requires you to buy a USDM post facelift ECU???

Thats pretty much all the options available to us in the country of ours. Everyone here on the forum would got a god damn Hondata reflash of its available to us without all the riff raff that comes with it. We aren't talking about k20 powered euros.

[vaikis]

From Hondata it's only two solutions:

Is it the kpro dual in which you lose VSA and Cruise control + you need to use K-Tunned Harness (K-Pro have a little bit more features compared with FlashPro)
Flashpro from Hondata that requires you to buy a USDM post facelift ECU

Forget all reflashes - it's waste of money and no big benefits, because you can't tune A/F, Ingition, VTC angles and etc. Reflash only helps with power dip after ~ 5000 rpm which all CL9 Euros has (TSX also has it), thats all. All car's is a little bit different, even the same tunes from K-Pro not good for two almost identical cars ;)

[Fredoops]

We know the solutions from hondata, I outlined them.

Kpro dual, most of us had to live with our cars, we like our VSA and cruise.... That and the legal Side of the problem...

Flash pro: bloody expansive exercise. And we have different EVAP and fuel tank pressure sensors, the effect of replacing the ECU is unknown.

[vaikis]

We know the solutions from hondata, I outlined them.

Kpro dual, most of us had to live with our cars, we like our VSA and cruise.... That and the legal Side of the problem...

Flash pro: bloody expansive exercise. And we have different EVAP and fuel tank pressure sensors, the effect of replacing the ECU is unknown.

yes EVAP systems are different, that is the biggest problem ;) BTW if anyone need I have spare K-Pro dual solution for CL9 Euro, just pm me. Much cheaper then from USA.

[adis]

Not one proper ecu thats priced well. Disappointing! Every single ecu or piggy has an issue it seems...why doesnt someone come up with solution and make some money? Im 100% interested in tuning my euro

[Fredoops]

Not one proper ecu thats priced well. Disappointing! Every single ecu or piggy has an issue it seems...why doesnt someone come up with solution and make some money? Im 100% interested in tuning my euro

To bloody true, we got the short end of the stick in this country...

Marcus from heeltoeauto has something cooking. We'll wait for that...

[marquee]

Only because our market is so small

[vaikis]

To bloody true, we got the short end of the stick in this country...

Marcus from heeltoeauto has something cooking. We'll wait for that...

I had a chat with Marcus, at the moment it would be solution for TSX only. For CL9 it can take ages to make ;)

[vaikis]

what issues ? cruise control and VSA with Hondata K-Pro. I think these two things is nothing compared what you get, for powerfull car VSA is not needed - believe me. Just install oem Honda LSD and it would be better 100 times then our VSA. Without cruise control I can live.

[Fredoops]

Legal issues with missing VSA (whether they can find it is beside the point)

As to cruise, we're a bloody big country.... You try to drive from Sydney to Melbourne without cruise. :-)




I had a chat with Marcus, at the moment it would be solution for TSX only. For CL9 it can take ages to make ;)

So did I, TSX IS CL9 btw, I'd like to see what he's actually cooking before I make a judgement, he keeping mum at the moment. should his system be able to emulate oem ecu factory settings (which is kinda necessary if he wants to make it a Multi-ecu capable system he's claiming) then it won't be hard to use it for any CL9 since the EVAP and fuel tank pressure sensors woont be disturbed, so is the different VSA sensor setup between AUDM and USDM.

[vaikis]

Legal issues with missing VSA (whether they can find it is beside the point)

As to cruise, we're a bloody big country.... You try to drive from Sydney to Melbourne without cruise. :-)





So did I, TSX IS CL9 btw, I'd like to see what he's actually cooking before I make a judgement, he keeping mum at the moment. should his system be able to emulate oem ecu factory settings (which is kinda necessary if he wants to make it a Multi-ecu capable system he's claiming) then it won't be hard to use it for any CL9 since the EVAP and fuel tank pressure sensors woont be disturbed, so is the different VSA sensor setup between AUDM and USDM.

I know what is TSX and CL9. Marcus is cooking somethink like piggyback, you will need to connect to oem ECU. All VSA settings is in our oem ECU's, idle control also done with oem ECU, I saw cracked .bin file in which is possible to change all settings in our ECU's. Russian guys are reflashing CL9 ECU's with different settings long time ago - same as Hondata Reflash but without any check engine light in dash ;)

[shmivic]

Freedoops you forgot to put Haltech Platinum Sport 1000 in your list.

Yes, it's a wire in dual installation.
Yes, you keep cruise control
Yes, you keep VSA (even though its useless and not illegal to disable)

I get the opinion on this forum, especially in this thread that people do MINIMAL actual research (apart from trolling) and are hardly willing to spend more than 1k on any aspect of modifications.

Maybe best to "ask E-Bay" which ecu to use?

If anyone is serious about doing any ecu work, CHIN THE FK UP! And run a dual system.
FORGET VSA, FORGET CRUISE CONTROL

[vaikis]

Freedoops you forgot to put Haltech Platinum Sport 1000 in your list.

Yes, it's a wire in dual installation.
Yes, you keep cruise control
Yes, you keep VSA (even though its useless and not illegal to disable)

I get the opinion on this forum, especially in this thread that people do MINIMAL actual research (apart from trolling) and are hardly willing to spend more than 1k on any aspect of modifications.

Maybe best to "ask E-Bay" which ecu to use?

If anyone is serious about doing any ecu work, CHIN THE FK UP! And run a dual system.
FORGET VSA, FORGET CRUISE CONTROL

+++++++
I think dual K-Pro setup is best one, as it has such good features like lamda overlay ant etc. It's easy to make safe tune with minimal knowledge ;)

[marquee]

I dont care about vsa or cruise to be honest i just got told i may get alternatives for next to nothing. I was aboit to get kpro but got told to wait and good things may happen

[vaikis]

I dont care about vsa or cruise to be honest i just got told i may get alternatives for next to nothing. I was aboit to get kpro but got told to wait and good things may happen

there won't be any good things or alternatives, forget this, nobody wants to invest in small market. OEM CL9 ECU don't have full CAN bus support, so there won't be such solutions like Flashpro for TSX 07-08. I had a long chat with Doug from Hondata. My suggestion take K-Pro and you would be more then happy, easy to tune, good tuner community and etc. If you want I can sell my spare kit for CL9 all plug and play :)

[marquee]

So i found a turbo at my uncles house. its from a 1993 lancer gsr. what you think running about 8psi? will be getting it reconditioned though. just want about 220kw.

anyone know where to get a manifold or will i need to get a custome one looking for a sidewinder not at the back.

should i worry about internals on such low boost. IE pistons

[Fredoops]

Funnily enough there's turbo manifolds for k24 on eBay, else you are looking at a custom jobbie. But either way you are looking at quite a bit of custom piping.

EDIT, else look for : JVT K series top mount cast manifold

Low psi should be good, you'd probably want something with low lag... I have doubts about putting a 20yo turbo in there. Having an old turbo reconditioned in a shop vs buying a new one, A new turbocharger dont cost all that much to be honest, it's more about picking the correct one. http://www.turboneticsinc.com/choose_turbocharger

Ps: it's been done before.
http://www.ovguide.com/video/jeffs-2004-acura-tsx-turbo-293whp-and-289tq-8psi-922ca39ce10064fbfd111ea641c4e4ba
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=715909

[10KRPM]

So i found a turbo at my uncles house. its from a 1993 lancer gsr. what you think running about 8psi? will be getting it reconditioned though. just want about 220kw.

anyone know where to get a manifold or will i need to get a custome one looking for a sidewinder not at the back.

should i worry about internals on such low boost. IE pistons


Thats a smallish turbo for the k24 and the power band would be all down low. The car that the turbo is from was a 1.8 and run with around 14psi from memory. And not only the manifold but the intercooler? expensive exercise.

[Fredoops]

A new T04E turbo is only $700 odd dollars with ball bearing.

Now I wonder how much HP/TQ a frankinstein motor makes

[10KRPM]

well its pretty interesting if you have the dosh. Do you go for low down torque with a smallish turbo or do you go bigger and have that big midrange and some top end....or the big turbo for that big hit up top.

You can get cheaper turbos then the official garrett stuff nowadays. They are copies but for the price you really cant knock them as they do the job still. Cheaper then buying a "brand" name turbo and getting it rebuilt.

[Fredoops]

Well for 300 hp (220KW) Marquee wanted @ 8psi, you'll need something like the T04E... it;s not a "small" turbo per-se is it? (thats actually a question, im no expert of snail sizes)

I couldnt imagine a T04E would be terribly expansive, a lot of Skyline folkes run them so theres plenty on the 2nd hand market.

[10KRPM]

yeah but what kind of 220kw? at the wheels or the flywheel? i think if your going to go to the expense of putting a turbo on the euro, you might as well put something thats not from a decade ago in terms of design and engineering.

[Fredoops]

yeah but what kind of 220kw? at the wheels or the flywheel? i think if your going to go to the expense of putting a turbo on the euro, you might as well put something thats not from a decade ago in terms of design and engineering.

2 decades :-)

[marquee]

Yer his got a t04e as well but its brand new he wants 500 for it might get that. Just means i will need to sell all the parts already on the car

[marquee]

Assuming flash pro works in my car do you reckon it will be suffice or should get kpro

[Fredoops]

Afaik they both support turbo applications.


Ps... You might wanna get a LSD

[marquee]

Yer i know they both will.

Yer lsd is at the shop waiting for me to buy. They keeping it for me

[Fredoops]

Hey someone's selling a whole kit
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?156894-K-amp-B-amp-H-Series-Dc5r-Box-ORC-Recaro-s-Coilovers-Disk-Brakes-EG6-ITR

[marquee]

Yer i noticed that but i want a sidewinder kit and that requires custom

[shmivic]

^ so does the sidewinder when used on a CL9 or TSX

[marquee]

Yer i know that was my point i no kit is a sidewinder (which is what i want). So it has to be custom im not spending all that money so it can't be seen. Engine bay when popped everything is on show when not popped no one can see.

[shmivic]

It's a tonne of work to fit a side wonder style kit to a CL9/TSX.

That fuse box, needs to be moved,
Wiring for injectors, coil packs, VTC all need to be extended.
Piping for FMIC will be extensively hard, there is zero space to run it (unless you go boot mount battery and don't mind drilling big holes in the car)

[marquee]

Hmm need some cash so car may be for sale as of tonight need to work a few things out

[adis]

Hey guys, i dont want to start a new thread, just wanted to see if anyone has heard or had any experience with HURRICANE extractors (4-1)

link: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-EURO-2-4LT-03-ON-HURRICANE-EXTRACTORS-/150715764455?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23175c0ee7#ht_1112wt_952

[Fredoops]

Hey guys, i dont want to start a new thread, just wanted to see if anyone has heard or had any experience with HURRICANE extractors (4-1)

link: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-ACCORD-EURO-2-4LT-03-ON-HURRICANE-EXTRACTORS-/150715764455?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23175c0ee7#ht_1112wt_952

Search dude
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?90138-Hurricane-Headers&highlight=Hurricane

[adis]

Search dude
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?90138-Hurricane-Headers&highlight=Hurricane
I did and i found that thread but there is only two reviews and they are both in 2008. They dont really go in depth and i want a more recent review. So thought id ask!

[Fredoops]

I doubt many people have it, considering the popularity of WP-R and DC/topspeed/xforce/OBX headers.

[adis]

Here is my bit to keep this thread going as its being forgotten a little...

Car is lux Euro 03 model, manual

Mods and a mini review on them:
Engine Mods
-K&N CAI
-HURRICANE HEADERS

Suspension Mods
-PEDDERS SPRINGS

Review thus far:
K&N Cold intake- Was a bit fiddly to install as i didnt want to take off my front bar. Got it done in an hour. First impressions, car is louder when on the throttle 80% or more. Adds a bit of grunt to the car. Notice an improvement in acceleration as well. At first, car was a bit sluggish at low rpms but i think the ecu needed time to get used to extra cold air coming in, but after one or two days, all positive. ++

Hurricane Headers-I bought this purely because i didnt know where to find decent headers that will cost me around 600 dollar mark, paying any more is ridiculous in my opinion. Tried doing a bit of research on this brand but only found positive reviews by ford and holden drivers. After being quoted 1300 for a good brand i thought ill take a risk and go for cheap HURRICANE. Turns out they are not bad at all. No leaks as few suggested. And again, improved response as well as top end. Very happy, and with fitting it cost me 540 all up. ++ (my cat is still standard)

Pedders Springs In my time driving turbo cars, i had s15 and skyline, and both had coilovers that were stiff and i wasnt a big fan. In fact after a while, using them in my daily, i started to hate them. Eventually swapped them for lovells springs which i was more happy with. So to sum it up, Pedders gives you a bit of looks with very similar to standard ride. Not stiff etc. happy ++ (

*lastly, just bought GREDDY ULTIMATE-tune is 28th jan. REVIEW will be up when its done! :)

Adz

[adis]

Got greddy ultimate installed and tuned last night at edge motorworks in campbellfield. Tuner being cihan.
Im very happy with results, very very similar to hondata minus all the issues. Powercurve is much much smoother, vtec engages at 5k but the modrange is so good that the vtec engagement is not as obvious as with standard ecu.
Highly recommended. Will post graph of the dyno soon and a video of car doing 0-130km take off!
Adz

[marquee]

I wanna see the graph

[marquee]

So i thought id put my demods. Sway bar off and intake back in

[adis]

Im still waiting for the tuner (he's really busy) to email me a copy of the dyno graph. Meanwhile, i have uploaded the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg38cuNIkmc&feature=youtu.be) on youtube of 0-130km.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg38cuNIkmc&feature=youtu.be

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Is it an auto?

[Fredoops]

whats with the VSA light?

[adis]

-Its a manual.
-And normally if im thrashing the car i switch traction control off. Should have left it on for this video but i forgot.

[shmivic]

Not too bad for NA. What power did you make?

I'll be at 200km by that time

[adis]

Not too bad for NA. What power did you make?

I'll be at 200km by that time

I wasnt bragging that its fast or anything just trying to be informative for other owners of euros thats all.
Car, with standard ecu made 106 and after 116 approx.
Good gains were made in midrange too but ye, cant expect too much from standard, na, heavy car.

[MingZai]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/430165_10150752881094377_581584376_12514898_803282 921_n.jpg
Why hello :)

[Fredoops]

J's racin build?

Lol $$$$$$$$$

[MingZai]

haha single titanium exhaust arriving on th 8th of Feb :)

[Symphorced]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/430165_10150752881094377_581584376_12514898_803282 921_n.jpg
Why hello :)

Why switch from Injen to this? Got money to burn? lol

[MingZai]

Haha nah just changing themes :)

Trying to ship a J's Racing Front Bumper with Aero Canards... but shipping is a bitch price + time wise...

[marquee]

do you still have your auto?

[MingZai]

yeah I do LoL

[adis]

Im still waiting for the tuner (he's really busy) to email me a copy of the dyno graph. Meanwhile, i have uploaded the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg38cuNIkmc&feature=youtu.be) on youtube of 0-130km.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg38cuNIkmc&feature=youtu.be

And here is the dyno graph as promised. His dyno numbers are a tad low but nevertheless you are able to compare before and after. Feel free to comment

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1672/adiscl9dyno.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/adiscl9dyno.jpg/)

Red= Headers and intake
Blue= Headers and intake with Gredy ultimate

[Rein]

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/430165_10150752881094377_581584376_12514898_803282 921_n.jpg
Why hello :)

holly cow... gonna wait till the day you retire and by then i should have enough money to buy your used parts.. lol

Shotgun!!

[Fredoops]

Gonna revive this.... Thread.

thing I look forwards to do in the near future:

Ez-lips front and side:
Saw on the photos of the recent Euro meet in Sydney some folks are rocking ez-lips on their car, and to me it actually looks pretty decent.
- Anyone here that actually use them have any feedback?

Blox/P2R IM and TB heatshield gasket.
Was thinking about a Tb spacer. Canned it after looking at the dyno figures on the TSX. it makes 1hp over heat gaskets... Meh.I'll take heat gasket and the 3hp it bring atw.

New (DIY) ground kit:
The current HKS ground kit simply isn't long enough to cover all the points I want it to cover (still missing a transmission link for example). And the short length means the engine bay is messy. Will probably make some DIY wires to suit

I plan to have the ground wires connect to:
1. Throttle body
2. Transmission
3. Engine block
4. engine mount area

Light weight pulley:
Still toying with this idea... it'll be stock-ish size, if anything I'll buy the T1R K20 pulley due to its solid design. No holes, no cuts.

Rims
As you can tell from my part list, my euro is anything BUT jdm..... USDM if anything.... I figured why not continue that with new shoes, I gonna take bronze Sparco asetto gara (by OzRacing) over the usual/works that everyone else uses. Very conservative fitment of 17x7.5 +40. Will get some Sumitomo Hrt z 2's to match.
--- saves 3 lbs per corner compared to stock.


And finally.... The dreaded suspension talk.
Decided to keep an eye of for 2nd hand coilovers 1inch drop maximum... Due to the lower strut bar scraping everything .

[MingZai]

freddy wanna come dyno day with me :D $50

[Fredoops]

freddy wanna come dyno day with me :D $50

When is it?

[marquee]

I miss my euro

[Fredoops]

I miss my euro
what u drive now?

[marquee]

Golf gle 2l auto LOL.

Trying to buy find something to buy

[adis]

Can i get some suggestions on what mod i should so next to my euro...

So far i have
-cai, headers, greddy ultimate.

Im thinking maybe cat? Throttle body? Vct? Suggestions please on best bang for buck. Cheers

[marquee]

You can't control vtc with greddy so that's out. Just get a cat

[Fredoops]

You can't control vtc with greddy so that's out. Just get a cat

He already installed the greddy



Can i get some suggestions on what mod i should so next to my euro...

So far i have
-cai, headers, greddy ultimate.

Im thinking maybe cat? Throttle body? Vct? Suggestions please on best bang for buck. Cheers

Cat is the next one.... Then retune probably....
And then lightened pulley/flywheel.

Boreing the TB won't do much.

[adis]

Cool, cat it is. Where is the best place to source one if anyone can suggest pls?

[Fredoops]

Heeltoeauto.com

Or Have one fabricated by a local exhaust shop.

[adis]

Too easy thanks for help

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He already installed the greddy


That's why I said the cat no point installing the vtc

[ChaosMaster]

Hey guys, looking for the lights that are like those on the Lexus. How they have a hint of blue in them when you look at them, but the lights themselves aren't actually blue. Asking cos I just came back from autobarn, with some blue lights, and their the illegal blue type, tried them in, too blue. The lights are clearly blue when you look at them, and they make the road and everything in the path nothing but blue.

[marquee]

Yer they aren't hids they are normal lights with blue glass LOL

[ChaosMaster]

Lolz, damn. Well running on my stocked lights now. Any idea how to get that blue hint in a CL9?

[chuboy]

You need to upgrade to HID... no easy task if you want your car to stay roadworthy. Easier if you have access to a Lux for parts or to drive instead :P

[ChaosMaster]

Don't think the Lux HID had blue tint in them though.

[adis]

Lolz, damn. Well running on my stocked lights now. Any idea how to get that blue hint in a CL9?

Get a hid kit from ebay for 48 bux and install it! Also get 6000+ globes that way they have a hint of blue?

[roony]

Don't think the Lux HID had blue tint in them though.

iirc it comes with 4300k bulbs, thats more towards the yellowish side. As said above 6000 would start to give a hint of blue.

[ChaosMaster]

Hmm, well as I said. I've got some 8000k bulbs now, way too blue. The actual light is blue. I guess 6000k would be a whiter colour, I could give that a try. But yeah, my current bulbs (non HID) look white enough. Something like this?
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Calibre-Halogen-Globe-12V-55W-Xenon-Blue-Extra-Vision-Performance-2-Pack.aspx?pid=120197&menuFrom=2047#Description
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Calibre-Halogen-Globe-12V-55W-Blue-Extra-Vision-Performance-2-Pack.aspx?pid=163440&menuFrom=2047#Description

Not sure which one is which though. Doesn't really say the K on them.

[ChaosMaster]

Anyone know what is the legal limit to blueness for road use?

[chuboy]

It has to be ADR approved... if your globe doesn't brag that it has ADR approval your car will be unroadworthy if you use it.

Also HID kits will more than likely make your car unroadworthy as you need to have things like self-levellers, headlight washers etc installed - there is a separate ADR for HID lights that you need to comply with.