Sad news indeed...Euro is dead next year.. Officialk statement below

[ozgordon]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/315157/honda-accord-euro-to-be-axed-in-2015/

[Fredoops]

Saw this coming.

[konektado]

But TLX will be available on 2016 here in aust

[cheapdouchebag]

Well, it was a no brainer.

Safe to say - Accord Euro CL9's were imho honda's success, one of the reasons was due to the fact that they were assembling parts from the spare parts bin from other honda models, hence why we share similiarities to the TSX and the accord. and as much as we love accord euro's it sucks to know that our cars were actually made from their scraps lol.

When something a bit more original comes along like the CU2, which is 99% identical to the TSX version - it was a bit of a flop, and honda has lost their eye on the ball in terms of mid-sized sedan market.

[ozgordon]

But TLX will be available on 2016 here in aust

Errr no it won't. There are no plans on replacing the Euro with anything

[Rev]

I'm getting so annoyed with Japanese car manufacturers only giving us the boring versions of their cars; and when (by accident?), they actually give us something good that nets them heaps of cash and appeal, they scrap it for the boring base-models that only conservative middle aged public servants desire to drive.

[Fredoops]

We are not getting the TLX or the New Chinese Sporior

it's bigger than the Thai accord, it's got no place in the Australian Honda line up, it's not made in right hand drive.

[curtis265]

I'm getting so annoyed with Japanese car manufacturers only giving us the boring versions of their cars; and when (by accident?), they actually give us something good that nets them heaps of cash and appeal, they scrap it for the boring base-models that only conservative middle aged public servants desire to drive.

clearly not..

[I CU2]

I wonder what the future boy ricer car of Honda will be after the Euro, something like the Insight lol

[Lozer]

Well i am going to keep mine. maby the car will be a classic down the track. !.

[Rev]

clearly not..

Euro's are everywhere. So either they are scrapping it in the face of great sales (or maybe just cu2 failed?) or they made some kind of blunder in selling them too cheap (unlikely).

[Fredoops]

Euro's are everywhere. So either they are scrapping it in the face of great sales (or maybe just cu2 failed?) or they made some kind of blunder in selling them too cheap (unlikely).

they *WERE* everywhere for the first generation.

2nd generation on wards it started it's slow death.

Besides, our market was irrelevant, the cash was from Europe (as the honda accord) and USA (as the acura tsx).

The CU2 Flopped in Europe, it was gone againest BMW 3, Merc C class entry level executives, and it pretty much flopped every comparison.

And in US it was killing Acura TL sales, so it has to go, as a result we have the TLX now in LHD countries.

[I CU2]

Well i am going to keep mine. maby the car will be a classic down the track. !.

At least you'll always have the current model lol.

[cheapdouchebag]

I wonder what the future boy ricer car of Honda will be after the Euro, something like the Insight lol

I got my money on the Jazz, their motor's are like the new d-series imho.

everyones going to be swapping k-series into them

[Dyln.bxtr]

I got my money on the Jazz, their motor's are like the new d-series imho.

everyones going to be swapping k-series into them

Jazz is too ugly though. The ricers are gonna stick with early model e# civics and the dc# integras. Cause, after all, ricers have no money nor brains....

[amant02]

Jazz is too ugly though. The ricers are gonna stick with early model e# civics and the dc# integras. Cause, after all, ricers have no money nor brains....

Lol you drive a ek, does this make you a ricer? nor have money or brains?

[curtis265]

Lol you drive a ek, does this make you a ricer? nor have money or brains?

hahahahahaha your best post yet



I got my money on the Jazz, their motor's are like the new d-series imho.

everyones going to be swapping k-series into them

my money is on the dc's, maybe FDs because easier to kdwap

it'll all be 00+ cars, the ed/ef/eg/ek will be much harder to find

[EKVTIR-T]

I wonder what the future boy ricer car of Honda will be after the Euro, something like the Insight lolcivic sedan has predominantly been the ricers choice though the years

[amant02]

DC5 best. GG WP.

[Dyln.bxtr]

Lol you drive a ek, does this make you a ricer? nor have money or brains?

At what point did I say that all who drove them where rice?

[Lozer]

MMMMMMMMMMMM I hope we can still get parts when we need them down the track or a raid at the local wreckers / not a good thought.

[amant02]

At what point did I say that all who drove them where rice?

At what point did you say "not all" either?

Just assumed you were refering too 'ALL' as your statement was pretty very gawrously general.

Also you think EP3R uglee too? Cos to me EP3R looks like pregnant version of the Jazz.

hehe

[lolmclol]

Potato v potato

[I CU2]

My life is potato.

[amant02]

Potato v potato
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/20/article-0-12AED5D5000005DC-745_472x509.jpg

[antony]

The CL9 and CU2s were massive successes,the problem is that the new TLX and Spirior are only left hand drive,and volumes too small to build them in right hand drive.
Very sad as the Euro is IMHO the only stunning car in the Honda line up...my next car will be a smaller sedan,either the sportier Mazda 3 SP25 or fully loaded Toyota Corolla ZR.
No Hondas on the list.
VW may score as buyers may now purchase Jettas and Passats,in adition to Mazda 6s and Toyota Camrys.

[Euromaniac]

Call me crazy but I'm thinking Mustang!!!

[Euromaniac]

Seriously though this fits a long line of crazy decisions by Honda, such as discontinuing the MDX. There are numerous models overseas that we simply never get down here in the colony...

[SPQR]

Lol, you're crazy. The 'Stang's only got two doors.

Those here that did not buy a CU2 each have their own reasons. I have two reasons: 1) For such a 'largish' family car, it still managed to have very little room in the back seat. 2) Honda OZ handled the "pinging" issue as arrogantly as did VW with the DSG issue. I lost confidence in the car so I did not buy one.

I think my next car might have a squiggly "H" badge and it might be this very roomy car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbjdmw8D9-Y

[I CU2]

That car don't got no H, it got the bentley wings lool.

[Dyln.bxtr]

I was thinking they looked more like Aston Martin wings...

[Fredoops]

I think my next car might have a squiggly "H" badge and it might be this very roomy car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbjdmw8D9-Y

OH YES! I LOVE the Genesis.

[Rev]

oh dear, the news struck you guys more than I thought, you're going insane, you're going... Korean!

[Fredoops]

Koreans been whopping Japanese ass for years now.

I'd take a Korean than the current Thai junk any day of the week

[amant02]

Oh my, I was thinking of the Euro for dads next car. That add. Looks like a must test drive now. Hyundai has picked up their game!

Honda might be in a pickle here.

[connorling]

I m surprise legend wasnt taken off the line up. Instead euro get the axe. All the cool high tech honda are in usa atm. They have so many models which aren't available here. RDX, ZDX, ILX, TLX, RLX and civic Si.

[curtis265]

Koreans been whopping Japanese ass for years now.

I'd take a Korean than the current Thai junk any day of the week

I am starting to lean that way too.

[antony]

Official figures from Honda is that 75000 Euros have been sold locally so far.
45000 are CL9s
30000 are CU2s

That's a lot of cars by the way...maybe Euro resale figures will climb over the years,as a lot of people will still want a used one .

[Fredoops]

Resale don't usually go up on killed models.

With the lifting of the p plater turbo ban I'd hazard to say the resale should drop by quite a bit

[antony]

China will be an interesting market,as they are getting the new Spirior as a replacement for their Euro,as well as the fully imported Acura TLX,which is everyone elses replacement for their Euros.

[SPQR]

I think my next car might have a squiggly "H" badge and it might be this very roomy car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbjdmw8D9-Y

I've bought a.... Je
No. I've ordered a Genesis Ultimate... Putting money where my mouth was. I tried one for 3 days earlier this year. Very impressive car. I looked at the Benz E/BMW 5/Audi A6 and was underwhelmed at the cost of "options" that are standard on the Genesis. The car is 3 months away though.

I'm afraid that the current Accord just doesn't rate with me. And once you've experienced the serenity of the Genesis cabin (it's so quiet) and its luxury fit, finish and equipment, the Accord feels cheap. Granted, the cost of the top V6 is nowhere near that of the Genesis Ultimate but I couldn't stick with Honda this time around; after 5 five successive Honda purchases.

[Dxs]

I know we are all honda nerds.. but the main reason people don't buy a car is due to styling.

the CL9 had good sales and the sister RB Odyssey had a huge increase in sales. Mainly due to the styling.

You look at the new accord and it looks like a ford falcon from 5 years back.

[BigBen]

I've bought a.... Je
No. I've ordered a Genesis Ultimate... Putting money where my mouth was. I tried one for 3 days earlier this year. Very impressive car. I looked at the Benz E/BMW 5/Audi A6 and was underwhelmed at the cost of "options" that are standard on the Genesis. The car is 3 months away though.

I'm afraid that the current Accord just doesn't rate with me. And once you've experienced the serenity of the Genesis cabin (it's so quiet) and its luxury fit, finish and equipment, the Accord feels cheap. Granted, the cost of the top V6 is nowhere near that of the Genesis Ultimate but I couldn't stick with Honda this time around; after 5 five successive Honda purchases.

Sad that they didn't bring in the V8 for the Genesis.

[SPQR]

Sad that they didn't bring in the V8 for the Genesis.

I would have got the V8 if it was available. I made the salesman swear that it wouldn't be available before I ordered the Genesis Ultimate. It sounds more likely that Oz might get the forthcoming (2017-2018) turbo V6 with equivalent power and torque of the V8. That might be my next car.

I'll still have two Honda's in the garage though; for now.

[I CU2]

How much movement is there on the Genesis's price?

[SPQR]

Here is a 6 month old demo Ultimate for under $70K:

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Hyundai-Genesis-2014/AGC-AD-17455237/?Cr=14

You can haggle despite it being a new car.

[BigBen]

Genesis could be a game changer if marketed correctly. It took over 20 years for Lexus to become established and Toyota spend over $1b US dollars building the first Lexus LS400 in the late 80s. Hyundai need to do something similar like Toyota to get luxury car buyers to take notice and start buying into the brand.

With relatively unknown branding of Hyundai making luxury cars, resale will be savage with the Genesis.

Here is a video on how smooth the Lexus V8 are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqFI2wtUVU

[SPQR]

Here is a video on how smooth the Lexus V8 are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqFI2wtUVU

As they say in the video: Find the right Champagne glasses, level the bonnet, nice smooth and not sudden revving of the engine... Voila!

I didn't detect any vibrations from the Genesis V6 while I had the car for 3 days so maybe it could do the same. Imagine that, a car one third the price of an LS460.

I agree that Hyundai does not know as yet how to sell luxury cars in Australia. A bit like the criticism Ford dealers have copped earlier on knowing how to sell cars other than Falcon. If you have watched Hyundai since its beginning in Australia as the Bond Motor Corporation in Western Australia to now as I have, you'd know that it would be foolish to dismiss it. Just as foolish as the German dismissal of Lexus when it first started.

http://www.hyundai.com.au/about-hyundai/news/articles/one-million-milestone-for-hyundai-motor-company-australia

I'm taking a gamble on the Genesis. I know the resale will be low as for any expensive car but I intend to keep it for a while.

[CL9er]

Disagree with the Lexus statement... No way did they take 20 years to establish. The LS400 released in the US in late 89 was an instant hit. Probably because Toyota were determined to build the best car in the world
world...And sell it at the right price.
The release of the IS series only 8 years after the first LS went on sale cemented Lexus place as a major luxury player by volume.

As for depreciation check MB, once the Gold standard for resale look at 2nd hand E class prices, then weep when you see S class!

The Genesis is an interesting one to watch, Hyundai are a serious outfit and it's probably high time the Koreans stepped it up!

The branding is confusing currently though, no Hyundai badge to be seen but no exclusive dealership experience either...

[SPQR]

The branding is confusing currently though, no Hyundai badge to be seen but no exclusive dealership experience either...

There is a big Hyundai badge on the boot lid. Apparently, many dealers in the southern states replace this with a Genesis winged badge. I wouldn't expect the current dealers to suddenly spend up big on new exclusive lounges etc. just for a car that sells at the rate of 50 per month Australia wide.