View Full Version : Good tyres for Euro 17" Rims
sodaz
06-06-2007, 10:02 PM
Hi guys,
I'm about to replace my stock 16" rims with 17" luxury ones. What tyres would you guys recommend for it? I think the standard size is 225/45R17. My budget is around $1000-$1200 for the set. I'm after performance and feel with reasonable wear.
Any ideas/opinions are welcome.
Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:
euro77
06-06-2007, 10:13 PM
you can get goodyear eagle f1 gs-d3 for around 250-300 a corner (that's the price I paid a few years ago though)
Chris_F
06-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Honestly, I was really disappointed with the f1 gs-d3... after about 15,000km they really feel lacking in grip and only lasted me 30,000km or so.
I'd suggest advan sport v103, instead I'm using them now and they're great: higher grip level, quieter, less tramlining and a more subtle appearance.
EuroAccord13
06-06-2007, 10:52 PM
Check the Tyre Recommendation Thread as well.....
BusterSonic12
06-06-2007, 11:28 PM
Advan AD07 ftw!!!
J-TODA
06-06-2007, 11:30 PM
Check the Tyre Recommendation Thread as well.....
also i believe dere was an article in this years wheels magazine which named top tyres...might be interested to take a look...
april issue...
NeoNode
07-06-2007, 12:08 AM
http://www.potenza-adrenalin.com/
This might be a decent tyre.
aaronng
07-06-2007, 12:47 AM
Yokohama S.Drive or C.Drive.
yourfather
07-06-2007, 01:16 AM
Yokohama S-Drive. Really good. I am really happy w/ mine
civic_mods
07-06-2007, 01:49 AM
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67310
sodaz
07-06-2007, 11:26 AM
Thanks guys! :D
Do you guys know a good place to buy and install tyres (including alignment) in Sydney?
EuroDude
07-06-2007, 11:32 AM
Yoko C-Drive ftw
SiReal
07-06-2007, 11:35 AM
Potenza S-03 -> Adrenalin. I knew one person who couldnt highly recommend them enough. they're only ~250 a corner so its not that expensive.
Lukey13
07-06-2007, 12:52 PM
Michelin Pilot Preceda are one of the quietest, most comfortable tyres that still offer fantastic balance and grip.
aaronng
07-06-2007, 01:38 PM
Potenza S-03 -> Adrenalin. I knew one person who couldnt highly recommend them enough. they're only ~250 a corner so its not that expensive.
$250 is expensive for 225/45 R17. Just add a little more and he can go for AD07! Plus, the S03 are a bit crappy in terms of treadwear (most of the time, the car won't be pushed hard, so the tyre is wearing without using its grip advantage)
SiReal
07-06-2007, 01:39 PM
I thought for 17" tyres $250 was cheap. hoho. thanks aaron, will do more research before i buy.
Chris_F
07-06-2007, 01:46 PM
for a top of the line street performance tyre in 225/47/R17 $250-350 is a reasonable ballpark figure.
Advan sport v103 and AD07 have a very similar tread compound (may even be the same)
santa3563
07-06-2007, 03:22 PM
Tempe Tyres in Pricess Highway Tempe gives the best prices .
tanalasta
07-06-2007, 04:10 PM
Just wondering what the durability is on the Advan Sport and the C-drives?
And the difference between the S-drive and the C-drive.
My Potenza REO40's are looking like they'll need replacing by 30000km so I'm looking for new tyres but would prefer something that would last me longer than a year :P
aaronng
07-06-2007, 04:20 PM
for a top of the line street performance tyre in 225/47/R17 $250-350 is a reasonable ballpark figure.
Advan sport v103 and AD07 have a very similar tread compound (may even be the same)
Thing is, S03 aren't top of the line. :) AD07 is much better than S03.
aaronng
07-06-2007, 04:23 PM
Just wondering what the durability is on the Advan Sport and the C-drives?
And the difference between the S-drive and the C-drive.
My Potenza REO40's are looking like they'll need replacing by 30000km so I'm looking for new tyres but would prefer something that would last me longer than a year :P
Not sure on the wear rating of the Advan Sport. But for the C and S drive, they are 300. In comparison, S02 and your RE040 are only rated at 180.
C-drive is made for comfort and safety in the wet. So while it does not have as much dry grip as the S-drive, the C-drive is more predictable in the wet and is also quieter.
euro77
07-06-2007, 07:08 PM
bridgestone re001 is $249 a corner for 17" (http://www.btc.net.au/StockStack2007/1290_SSS_Catalogue_Metro.pdf)
Chris_F
07-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Not sure on the wear rating of the Advan Sport.
the sport are rated at 180, by the look of them they'll probably last 25,000km (including one track session and a few runs down the drag strip). Which is as good as the eagle f1's i used to have (yet have heaps more grip).
as001
08-06-2007, 11:38 AM
Dunlop Sport Maxx's get em from BOB Jane Bankstown
sodaz
08-06-2007, 08:26 PM
Not sure on the wear rating of the Advan Sport. But for the C and S drive, they are 300. In comparison, S02 and your RE040 are only rated at 180.
C-drive is made for comfort and safety in the wet. So while it does not have as much dry grip as the S-drive, the C-drive is more predictable in the wet and is also quieter.
Where did you get your tyres from Aaron?
terryansimon
08-06-2007, 11:39 PM
if you want quiet set of rubbers, consider AVS db from Yokohama. back home, the tyres provided absolutely no noise intrusion at all on the humble Corolla without any sound dampening modifications done to it.
aaronng
09-06-2007, 12:06 AM
Where did you get your tyres from Aaron?
Got the first set of C.drive for our other car from Bob Jane at full price. Will be going to the local Tyrepower here for 225/50 R16 for $219 next.
yourfather
09-06-2007, 12:21 AM
I can prolly get you cheaper if you are in Melbourne.
Michelin preceda II, dunlop sport 2000a, yokahama advan's excellant tyres.
I'm on michelin's preceda's excellant tyres, little if any tramling, quiet and comfortable ride.
BiLL|z0r
09-06-2007, 01:13 PM
Michelin preceda II, dunlop sport 2000a, yokahama advan's excellant tyres.
I'm on michelin's preceda's excellant tyres, little if any tramling, quiet and comfortable ride.
I'm thinking of getting Michelin Preceda II for the front in the next few months. How's the wear rate on your Michelin's going? My wife had Michelin's once and they were fantastic. 50K km/s later and still heaps of tread, even on the front.
free2d
10-06-2007, 03:10 AM
Michelin PS2?
I'm thinking of getting Michelin Preceda II for the front in the next few months. How's the wear rate on your Michelin's going? My wife had Michelin's once and they were fantastic. 50K km/s later and still heaps of tread, even on the front.
Mine still new but the tread is quite chunky, so im assuming they will go the distance, crossing the fingers at least 50,000klm's ++
euro77
10-06-2007, 11:51 AM
Michelin PS2?
Don't think you'll be able to get Michelin PS2 at 300 per corner.
sodaz
10-06-2007, 12:15 PM
What about tyre weights? Which tyres are lighter than others? The 17" rims are about 10kg in weight (about 1kg more than the 16") so I want to make sure that the tyres I put on aren't too heavy. They look awesome compared to the 16" rims. Can't wait to put them on. They should increase overall grip a lot. :thumbsup:
Will it still be ok for me to use the 16" space saver spare? The overall diameter will increase 0.54cm according to my calculations - From 205/55/16R to 225/45/17R.
What about tyre weights? Which tyres are lighter than others? The 17" rims are about 10kg in weight (about 1kg more than the 16") so I want to make sure that the tyres I put on aren't too heavy. They look awesome compared to the 16" rims. Can't wait to put them on. They should increase overall grip a lot. :thumbsup:
Will it still be ok for me to use the 16" space saver spare? The overall diameter will increase 0.54cm according to my calculations - From 205/55/16R to 225/45/17R.
You need to check with each tyre manufacturer about tyre weight. There is a huge variance across the brands and many do not publish that info anyway.
And yes you can still use the space saver but the car will probably not track straight due to the difference.
sendok
10-06-2007, 02:21 PM
advan and yokohama are the best for me.. eventhough i'm using stock bridgestone atm... they are pretty much good in the wet and dry roads
MiSloVic
10-06-2007, 07:25 PM
Honestly, I was really disappointed with the f1 gs-d3... after about 15,000km they really feel lacking in grip and only lasted me 30,000km or so.
I'd suggest advan sport v103, instead I'm using them now and they're great: higher grip level, quieter, less tramlining and a more subtle appearance.
any chance you know where your GSD3 are made from?
i had a set of German gsd3 before, used it pass 35000km, and it is still gripping quite well. now on Falken FK452, would say they are as good as the GSD3, at only 2/3 the price.
sodaz
10-06-2007, 08:52 PM
You need to check with each tyre manufacturer about tyre weight. There is a huge variance across the brands and many do not publish that info anyway.
And yes you can still use the space saver but the car will probably not track straight due to the difference.
Cheers mate. I'll start researching!
aaronng
10-06-2007, 10:34 PM
What about tyre weights? Which tyres are lighter than others? The 17" rims are about 10kg in weight (about 1kg more than the 16") so I want to make sure that the tyres I put on aren't too heavy. They look awesome compared to the 16" rims. Can't wait to put them on. They should increase overall grip a lot. :thumbsup:
Will it still be ok for me to use the 16" space saver spare? The overall diameter will increase 0.54cm according to my calculations - From 205/55/16R to 225/45/17R.
Put the space saver on the rear (like you are supposed to) and it'll be ok at a speed limit of at up 70km/h I think. Too bad with RWD vehicles, you need a full sized spare.
tony1234
11-06-2007, 08:10 AM
I'm running conti sport contact 2s :thumbsup: :thumbsup: but a bit pricey.Dunlop sport Maxx seem to get a good rap!!consider them.
petsfact
11-06-2007, 11:02 PM
hi, sorry to hijack the thread, but need some opinion.
I just got a quote from melbourne as follow:
Yoko V550 265 each
Conti Sport Contact 2 255 each
Sport Maxx 245 each
Adrenalin 225 each
205/55/16 balance and fitted, any idea this sound reasonable? Also the tyre place claim Yoko and Conti is best for euro and it just appears they are the most expenive too out of the list, anything to back up this claim?
Thanks.
yourfather
12-06-2007, 11:53 AM
sounds expensive...
aaronng
12-06-2007, 12:08 PM
hi, sorry to hijack the thread, but need some opinion.
I just got a quote from melbourne as follow:
Yoko V550 265 each
Conti Sport Contact 2 255 each
Sport Maxx 245 each
Adrenalin 225 each
205/55/16 balance and fitted, any idea this sound reasonable? Also the tyre place claim Yoko and Conti is best for euro and it just appears they are the most expenive too out of the list, anything to back up this claim?
Thanks.
The Yoko you listed is the low road noise version. I'd rather Conti Sport Contact 2 instead. So it's either the Contis or the Adrenalin. Both different tyres for different uses. Get Contis for normal driving, and Adrenalin if you are the kind that goes through your tyres quickly. BTW, you can do better than $225 for Adrenalins in that size. If you go to any bridgestone tyre centre, they are selling Adrenalins in 205/55 R16 for $199 now during their Stack Stock Sale. http://www.btc.net.au/StockStack2007/metro.asp
petsfact
12-06-2007, 08:49 PM
The Yoko you listed is the low road noise version. I'd rather Conti Sport Contact 2 instead. So it's either the Contis or the Adrenalin. Both different tyres for different uses. Get Contis for normal driving, and Adrenalin if you are the kind that goes through your tyres quickly. BTW, you can do better than $225 for Adrenalins in that size. If you go to any bridgestone tyre centre, they are selling Adrenalins in 205/55 R16 for $199 now during their Stack Stock Sale. http://www.btc.net.au/StockStack2007/metro.asp
what happened to the sport maxx? :D
doosra
12-06-2007, 10:43 PM
What do you guys think of Kumho? specifically the Kumho Ku31?
http://www.kumho.com.au/product_high_performance_premium.htm
I'm thinking of getting these next time round. I got quoted 225/40/18 for $150 each (mates rates). I think they're bout 200 at bob jane.
I ended up getting Kumho Ecsta Seven ku23's for $130 because they didn't have ku31's in stock.
aaronng
12-06-2007, 11:10 PM
what happened to the sport maxx? :D
To me, my personal preference is Yoko > Dunlop. But if you can get Adrenalins for cheaper than the Sport Maxx, and both of them are aimed towards the modded compact car segment, I'd wait for someone else here to get Adrenalins first and review them :D
But I like Contis enough to choose them over the more expensive V550. Tony1234 has more experience as he has the Contis, so listen to him.
tanalasta
13-06-2007, 12:52 AM
I'm inclined to go for the C-drives at the moment - do people know what a 'good' price for a set of 4, including install/balance/etc... is?
17" stock rims.
aaronng
13-06-2007, 01:29 AM
I'm inclined to go for the C-drives at the moment - do people know what a 'good' price for a set of 4, including install/balance/etc... is?
17" stock rims.
Call up the usual places, Bob Jane and Tyrepower.
tony1234
13-06-2007, 07:33 AM
To me, my personal preference is Yoko > Dunlop. But if you can get Adrenalins for cheaper than the Sport Maxx, and both of them are aimed towards the modded compact car segment, I'd wait for someone else here to get Adrenalins first and review them :D
But I like Contis enough to choose them over the more expensive V550. Tony1234 has more experience as he has the Contis, so listen to him.
Yeah,contis are excellent but the price:thumbdwn: If you track your car i wouldn't put them on though,i'd go for Yokohamas.
petsfact
13-06-2007, 10:31 PM
Yeah,contis are excellent but the price:thumbdwn: If you track your car i wouldn't put them on though,i'd go for Yokohamas.
I don't track my car, just normal daily driving but of course you get that "fast spirit" once in a while.
All i am worrying is the tyre flex, my current factory dunlop gives lot of tyre flex, and steering response is at its lowest possible.
How the conti work? Precise steering response? does it give you that "almost lose it" feeling when doing hard cornering? Thanks.
Must have a look at this site - www.cheaptyres4u.com.au. I saved around $100 PER tyre when I bought mine from here a month ago. Just make sure you specify EXACTLY what you need and itemise everything carefully (including alignment etc. etc.) and get a quote for everything (otherwise you may end up paying extra towards the end) and try avoiding the 7Hills workshop!
aaronng
13-06-2007, 11:08 PM
All i am worrying is the tyre flex, my current factory dunlop gives lot of tyre flex, and steering response is at its lowest possible.
Almost everything is better than the stock Dunlops. (except for maybe Ling Longs).
tony1234
14-06-2007, 07:26 AM
I don't track my car, just normal daily driving but of course you get that "fast spirit" once in a while.
All i am worrying is the tyre flex, my current factory dunlop gives lot of tyre flex, and steering response is at its lowest possible.
How the conti work? Precise steering response? does it give you that "almost lose it" feeling when doing hard cornering? Thanks.
Contis are good.Just make sure you put approx.38psi all round(this is what i was told)and they ride and handle well.
LT178
14-06-2007, 03:40 PM
Don't think you'll be able to get Michelin PS2 at 300 per corner.
I have PS2s, they're ~ $450-$500 a pop :eek: in 225/45/17. Great tyre though......if you're willing to cough up. I'm not sure I will be next tyre change tough!
aaronng
14-06-2007, 04:05 PM
Yeah, Michelin PS2 are pricey, I think because they are the OEM tyre for the E46 M3.
tron07
14-06-2007, 04:31 PM
my vote goes to Conti Sport Contact 2
tony1234
14-06-2007, 05:36 PM
my vote goes to Conti Sport Contact 2
Me too!:)
enkay
17-06-2007, 10:58 PM
pshh i got full slicks on mine! 300 wide hahaha jks
i cant remember wats on my 17s but i got semislicks on my 16s for the track haha =P
ENVSSS
18-06-2007, 08:48 AM
[QUOTE=Chris_F;1203324]Honestly, I was really disappointed with the f1 gs-d3... after about 15,000km they really feel lacking in grip and only lasted me 30,000km or so.
QUOTE]
I also bought these for my 05 lux - I'm not too happy with them either. Compared to the stock RE040 they seem to have a much softer compound and thicker side wall which numbed the feeling and directional response. I also found there was less lateral grip. The only way I was able to gain the same feeling from the Bridgestone’s was after installing a Whiteline RSB and Cusco tower bar. However I have done 30000km with them and they do seem to last. On that note, I would still not recommend them or buy them again.
Entity
18-06-2007, 01:56 PM
are there any decent tyres with 300 wear rating for under $200 a pop (in 17")?
i like the sounds of the yoko c-drive but its slightly out of my budget... replacing all 4 would be $1k+
and i'm really dissapointed with the factory bridgestones.. not only were they loud and caused my car to veer to the right, they also ran out superfast with normal driving ... dont want this to happen again with the next set.
tanalasta
18-06-2007, 07:30 PM
The cost of a set of 4 C-drives were $1100 including installation was the quote.
Factory REO40's will only last me around 30k which I found disappointing!
Entity
18-06-2007, 08:21 PM
well i had the factory 16" dunlop sp sports and went about 15000km on them and they had at least 80% left when i took them off...
i put on the potenzas (which by the looks of it had about 40% left when i put them on) and they are gone in like under 10000km....
I had Yokohama C-Drives fitted recently when I upgraded to 17 inch rims, and I'm very happy with them. Great grip (over the stock Dunlop 16s), and on a par for noise. They're reasonable over rough roads, but you will feel the shift to the lower profile over pothole-style corrugations.
My car is doing a lot of pitching and darting under braking and heavy acceleration right now, but I'm fairly sure that's down to the wheel alignment rather than the tyres.
aaronng
19-06-2007, 12:29 AM
I had Yokohama C-Drives fitted recently when I upgraded to 17 inch rims, and I'm very happy with them. Great grip (over the stock Dunlop 16s), and on a par for noise. They're reasonable over rough roads, but you will feel the shift to the lower profile over pothole-style corrugations.
My car is doing a lot of pitching and darting under braking and heavy acceleration right now, but I'm fairly sure that's down to the wheel alignment rather than the tyres.
Probably your springs are worn in and more pliable :)
yourfather
19-06-2007, 12:36 AM
I can get 17 inch 225/45/17 for 1100 fitted
aaronng
20-06-2007, 02:45 PM
The cost of a set of 4 C-drives were $1100 including installation was the quote.
Factory REO40's will only last me around 30k which I found disappointing!
BobJane is selling the Yokohama A.Drive R1 in 235/45 R17 for $229. Give them a call to check on the price of the 225. Remember to state the "R1". There is another A.Drive without the R1, which is an economy sports tyre.
Entity
20-06-2007, 05:13 PM
hmm that is a pretty good price, thats like 920 a set... whats their wear rating and how are they in the wet?
petsfact
20-06-2007, 10:09 PM
forgot to update, got quote sport max 850 16" alignment included or 786 adrenalin no alignment included.
haven't change them, still have the old tyres. then i come to think why not i just buy some 17"s that come with rubber, a not so good quality but reasonable looking cost maybe something like 1500?
not sure what to do with the car now might leave it until the tyres worn out and came off itself on freeway.....
BiLL|z0r
21-06-2007, 06:30 AM
Can you live with "not so good" rubber though? I know I couldn't. If I got 17s I'd want great rubber still anyway.
tony1234
21-06-2007, 07:28 AM
Can you live with "not so good" rubber though? I know I couldn't. If I got 17s I'd want great rubber still anyway.
Neither could i.You should buy the best tyres you can afford.remember they're the only contact between your car and the road.
euro77
21-06-2007, 07:20 PM
can't remember if this has been suggested, but I think pirelli dragon is a good balance between performance and wear rate. Nick would vouch for this tyre, won't you Nick? :D
petsfact
21-06-2007, 08:58 PM
they are not so good? didn't know......
petsfact
23-06-2007, 06:25 PM
Just to update today i went to change all 4 corners to RE001.
sport max and RE001 both got quoted 850ish blance fitted and alignment. For the same amount of money i choose to go for latest design. At least it's something eh......
For what i paid i think it's pretty good value for money, road noise is definately down by almost 50%, probably just because my dunlop is nearly worn out. Steering response is good, but alignment is getting worse... will need to take it back again.
falco
25-06-2007, 09:56 PM
I got only 15000k out of my Yokohama V550 on the back.
I got only 15000k out of my Yokohama V550 on the back.
You need to rotate your tyres more often.
terryansimon
25-06-2007, 10:16 PM
I got only 15000k out of my Yokohama V550 on the back.
gee that's quite low.
do you do tyre rotations as yfin suggested? and other preventative maintenance, like proper inflations *actually, that's all I can think of! :(*
LT178
26-06-2007, 12:07 PM
I got only 15000k out of my Yokohama V550 on the back.
Thats strange, I would've thought your fronts would wear out faster
Entity
26-06-2007, 11:06 PM
the standard 17" size is 225/45/r17
can i fit 235/45/r17 and is it ok to do so?
mugen88
27-06-2007, 01:16 AM
the standard 17" size is 225/45/r17
can i fit 235/45/r17 and is it ok to do so?
Using the tyre size calculator at: www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
It reads that using a 235/45/17 will mean yr avg speed will be 1.4% higher, not a huge difference.
This size tyre is also more suited to a wider rim such as 17x8. I am also considering this size and a previous Euro owner "Yfin" on this forum was also using this size on a 17 x 7.5' wheel, see his comment below in this post: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=995168.
I don't know much about APEC - I always suggest people stay away from the real dirt cheap cast rims. $1000 is nothing when you include tyres. Make sure they have a replacement warranty at that sort of price. Lenso has a decent reputation so you could be downgrading in terms of quality.
Too hard on stock suspension is an unusual complaint. How hard do you usually pump up the tyres?
If you do change eg for 17" - go for min 7.5" wide then you can fit 235/45/17. It has a higher sidewall compared to 225/45/17 so if you want more ride comfort that is the size for you. It is also cheaper in terms of tyre selection.
Hope this helps. :D
the standard 17" size is 225/45/r17
can i fit 235/45/r17 and is it ok to do so?
as above you cant put that size on the stock 17" rims
Entity
28-06-2007, 06:49 PM
have anyone had experience with nankang ns2? i've seen some good reviews, like its good for the price
i know someone said not to skimp on tyres, but expensive doesnt always mean better.
sodaz
07-07-2007, 06:20 PM
Thanks for all the advice guys. :thumbsup: Installed the rims today (looks so much better than the 16" ones) with Yokohama S drives. Didn't really have the chance to push the car hard today but the car seems to corner flatter now. It could change a bit as the tyres wear in more.
Here's a quick photo of it:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b209/betty0blue/Euro-with-17-rims.jpg
mugen88
07-07-2007, 10:20 PM
How much were the S-Drives?
sodaz
07-07-2007, 10:30 PM
How much were the S-Drives?
$269 each.
mugen88
07-07-2007, 10:51 PM
Well done on the wheels and tyres, good price. :thumbsup:
What dealer did you purchase tyres from?
sodaz
07-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Well done on the wheels and tyres, good price. :thumbsup:
What dealer did you purchase tyres from?
Thanks mate. I got them from "Tyre and Wheels" in West Ryde, Sydney.
euro77
07-07-2007, 11:44 PM
sydney seems to get cheaper price on tyres... lucky them I guess :(
Hi Sodaz,
Do you have the drift-to-the-right issue with the new rim and tyre combo?
Anyone know anyone in melb selling Yokohama AD07 and how much roughly?
I'm hoping to find a square/edge (square shoulder block) tyre with a relatively stiff sidewall. (Loved the Yokohama A509's on my prelude... a feeling that I could not achieve with OEM RE010 and Yokohama ES100 on my S15.)
Thanks mate. I got them from "Tyre and Wheels" in West Ryde, Sydney.
sodaz
08-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Hi Sodaz,
Do you have the drift-to-the-right issue with the new rim and tyre combo?
Anyone know anyone in melb selling Yokohama AD07 and how much roughly?
I'm hoping to find a square/edge (square shoulder block) tyre with a relatively stiff sidewall. (Loved the Yokohama A509's on my prelude... a feeling that I could not achieve with OEM RE010 and Yokohama ES100 on my S15.)
Absolutely no drifting and tracks straight like an arrow. After installing the tyres, I also did alignment and balancing.
aaronng
08-07-2007, 12:22 PM
Anyone know anyone in melb selling Yokohama AD07 and how much roughly?
I'm hoping to find a square/edge (square shoulder block) tyre with a relatively stiff sidewall. (Loved the Yokohama A509's on my prelude... a feeling that I could not achieve with OEM RE010 and Yokohama ES100 on my S15.)
AD07 has a wear rating of 180 though. Very soft and won't last as long a the A509. Have you looked at the tread pattern of the C.Drive?
http://yokohama.com.au/media/b_cdrive.896.jpg
I did look at the C-Drive, but the edge is pretty rounded. Most people think it's more sidewall flex than A539 (which is more SW flex than A509).
Haven't driving a car with it though.. so I don't really know. The ES100 is also a bit rounded on the edge.
AD07 has a wear rating of 180 though. Very soft and won't last as long a the A509. Have you looked at the tread pattern of the C.Drive?
http://yokohama.com.au/media/b_cdrive.896.jpg
aaronng
08-07-2007, 03:48 PM
I did look at the C-Drive, but the edge is pretty rounded. Most people think it's more sidewall flex than A539 (which is more SW flex than A509).
Haven't driving a car with it though.. so I don't really know. The ES100 is also a bit rounded on the edge.
If your Euro is still on soft suspension, then the sidewall flex will be masked by your softer suspension. If you have stiffer coils, then yes, go for the tyre with less sidewall flex. The C.Drive is still an all rounder tyre. If you want a stiffer sidewall, then look at the S.Drive.
robburl
08-07-2007, 04:28 PM
Michelin Pilot Preceda are one of the quietest, most comfortable tyres that still offer fantastic balance and grip.
At over $400 a corner, its worth looking at other options such as Dunlop Sport Maxx and the new Bridgestone Turanza ER300. I've just fitted a set of the ER300 and find them better than the Preceda for only $220 each.
robburl
08-07-2007, 04:30 PM
Michelin Pilot Preceda are one of the quietest, most comfortable tyres that still offer fantastic balance and grip.
At over $400 a corner, its worth looking at other options such as Dunlop Sport Maxx and the new Bridgestone Turanza ER300. I've just fitted a set of the ER300 to my 16" wheels and find them better than the Preceda for only $220 each.
I'm a bit concern about the S.Drive having directionals pattern which may still exhibit the drift-to-the-right symptoms. Someone here did put on a set of S.drive on 17" euro rims and said it's perfect though.
Not sure if that's enough to convince me to commit.
If your Euro is still on soft suspension, then the sidewall flex will be masked by your softer suspension. If you have stiffer coils, then yes, go for the tyre with less sidewall flex. The C.Drive is still an all rounder tyre. If you want a stiffer sidewall, then look at the S.Drive.
aaronng
08-07-2007, 05:04 PM
I'm a bit concern about the S.Drive having directionals pattern which may still exhibit the drift-to-the-right symptoms. Someone here did put on a set of S.drive on 17" euro rims and said it's perfect though.
Not sure if that's enough to convince me to commit.
Many tyres are asymmetric. That includes the C.Drive, Pirelli Dragon, and even the Dunlop SP Sport 3000A. I understand that you want to be sure that the tyre doesn't cause any pulling, but consider this, even the A509s that you like are also asymmetrical (tread goes backwards on the left side but goes forwards on the right side :)):
Left: http://www.reifensuchmaschine.de/reifenhersteller/yokohama/yokohama-profile/yokohama-A509.jpg Right: http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/8f/4b/autoTiresAllYokohama_A509_205_65_VR151-resized200.jpg
I reckon some of you guys spend a lot on tyres. I paid $180 a corner for Dunlop 3000A in 235/45/17 and they were fantastic tyres for street use.
Granted that was a special price and 235 is cheaper than 225 - but still. I burn through tyres too fast to justify $400 a corner.
petsfact
08-07-2007, 07:27 PM
agree, sometime you go for the most use instead of best use, it's not like you track the car everyday........
petsfact
08-07-2007, 07:48 PM
at 199 each i seriously think re001 is good value for money, it's not some extremely quiet or comfortable tyre but it's more than enough for daily driving....
petsfact
08-07-2007, 07:55 PM
I reckon some of you guys spend a lot on tyres. I paid $180 a corner for Dunlop 3000A in 235/45/17 and they were fantastic tyres for street use.
Granted that was a special price and 235 is cheaper than 225 - but still. I burn through tyres too fast to justify $400 a corner.
when getting quote around i was so tempted to go for 3000A it cost 800 all 4 coernes balance fitted and aligned, but bs was on promotion with 60 dollars more i get some new design to try on.
also i don't think you will find any huge difference when driving either you have 3000A or re001 or C drive or cs2 fitted, in term of day to day driving.
sport max was also on promo for 850 just wondering anyone went with that? any review?
aaronng
08-07-2007, 08:16 PM
at 199 each i seriously think re001 is good value for money, it's not some extremely quiet or comfortable tyre but it's more than enough for daily driving....
Remember though, RE001 has a wear rating of 220. That's lower than the C.Drive and S.Drive's 300. So they last about 73% of the duration, assuming that you do enough kms to reach the treadwear indicator within 3 years. If you do very low kms, the tyres will harden before they wear out, and will be poor in the wet.
Lukey13
09-07-2007, 07:03 PM
Fortunately I haven't had to replace the tyres on my Euro yet. However on my previous car I went for the Pilot Precedas (which were $3XX each for 235/45/17) because I was pretty much after the quietest, most comfortable tyre that still handled and gripped really well.
I really couldn't care less if a tyre can grip twice as well if it's going to be twice as loud. At the moment I can't stand the noisy OEM Bridgestone tyres. I think I'll take them off prematurely just to upgrade to something quieter and better handling.
ABS121
11-07-2007, 03:58 PM
Hey aaronng
Is that 199 for 17"? and if so, from where? I assume when you say re001 your talking about the new Potenza Adrenalin's. I was quoted $269 at australias best in sydney.
tony1234
11-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Fortunately I haven't had to replace the tyres on my Euro yet. However on my previous car I went for the Pilot Precedas (which were $3XX each for 235/45/17) because I was pretty much after the quietest, most comfortable tyre that still handled and gripped really well.
I really couldn't care less if a tyre can grip twice as well if it's going to be twice as loud. At the moment I can't stand the noisy OEM Bridgestone tyres. I think I'll take them off prematurely just to upgrade to something quieter and better handling.
I changed my tyres the day after i picked my car up.The RE040s are crap.:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:
aaronng
11-07-2007, 06:12 PM
Hey aaronng
Is that 199 for 17"? and if so, from where? I assume when you say re001 your talking about the new Potenza Adrenalin's. I was quoted $269 at australias best in sydney.
Yes, for 17". That was at any Bridgestone Tyre Centre. The promotion is over now and it is back to full price.
petsfact
11-07-2007, 07:50 PM
199 is for 16" :P
Hey aaronng
Is that 199 for 17"? and if so, from where? I assume when you say re001 your talking about the new Potenza Adrenalin's. I was quoted $269 at australias best in sydney.
I got a set of RE001 today for my 18. It is a RWD with deep dish so I got them for $1500 fitted and balanced. Took it for a run... it is just too good to believe compare to G3
aaronng
11-07-2007, 11:02 PM
Oh wait, yeah, I think might have been 16". :)
Better in what ways? Steering response.. cornering stability...grip... ?
I got a set of RE001 today for my 18. It is a RWD with deep dish so I got them for $1500 fitted and balanced. Took it for a run... it is just too good to believe compare to G3
Better in what ways? Steering response.. cornering stability...grip... ?
in ALL WAY ROUND
RE001: The trend seems to be going back to asymetric designs with large outside shoulder blocks. ALA Yokohama A509.
aaronng
12-07-2007, 06:36 PM
RE001: The trend seems to be going back to asymetric designs with large outside shoulder blocks. ALA Yokohama A509.
And that's a good design, except that it is louder when it comes to road noise.
it is not loud at all serious......
tknova
13-07-2007, 06:59 AM
Falken ST-115!! Quite with heaps of grip in wet/dry.
EUR003act
13-07-2007, 05:06 PM
falken 452 - awesome grip both wet and dry (especially in the wet! no complaints there) and good comfort/road noise levels :D
falken 452 - awesome grip both wet and dry (especially in the wet! no complaints there) and good comfort/road noise levels :D
wait until 15,000kms and then report back what you think of them in the wet
wait until 15,000kms and then report back what you think of them in the wet
yes .... i got them before. totally sxxk in the wet after a year
Aaron, so whhich tyre would u buy if you had to buy now? RE001?
The other thing is whether the full tyre shoulder is flat'ish (nice and stable) or round'ish (floaty!).
And that's a good design, except that it is louder when it comes to road noise.
EUR003act
16-07-2007, 11:34 AM
wait until 15,000kms and then report back what you think of them in the wet
i've done about 10,000km on them, they still seem fine (i live in canberra, wet nearly all the time)... what tyres do you like/use?
cheers
aaronng
16-07-2007, 02:01 PM
Aaron, so whhich tyre would u buy if you had to buy now? RE001?
The other thing is whether the full tyre shoulder is flat'ish (nice and stable) or round'ish (floaty!).
If I didn't do many kms a year, then RE001. If I did many kms, then either S.Drive or C.Drive.
say 10,000km a year?
If I didn't do many kms a year, then RE001. If I did many kms, then either S.Drive or C.Drive.
euro77
16-07-2007, 10:25 PM
10,000km a year? That's not a lot, probably go for RE001 then.
petsfact
16-07-2007, 10:31 PM
the flat'ish or roun'ish sidewall does not stand a strong statement anymore judging by the technology involve in tyre making nowadays.
if you have a chance to try between s03 [flat'ish] and re001 [round'ish], you will know there is no much difference between 2 models because of O'bead.
i think re001 on euro is more than enough, but if you drive S15, having a set of S03 will give you more fun than re001...... my 0.2 ringgit
OK. RE001 for me. I'll replace the 2 front tyres and see if it resolves the drift-to-the-right.
So has anyone else here put RE001 on their 17" Rims? (225/45/17)
aaronng
15-08-2007, 07:46 AM
say 10,000km a year?
That's low. Go RE001 then. :)
aaronng
15-08-2007, 07:47 AM
the flat'ish or roun'ish sidewall does not stand a strong statement anymore judging by the technology involve in tyre making nowadays.
if you have a chance to try between s03 [flat'ish] and re001 [round'ish], you will know there is no much difference between 2 models because of O'bead.
i think re001 on euro is more than enough, but if you drive S15, having a set of S03 will give you more fun than re001...... my 0.2 ringgit
He meant tyre shoulder, not the sidewall. I'd go for one with a squarish shoulder, after using tyres with a roundish shoulder. I preferred the squarish shoulder of the C.Drive.
RE001 has replaced the S03. You can't get S03 in smaller than 205/50 R17 anymore.
tony1234
15-08-2007, 08:09 AM
Does anyone know how much for RE001?225/45/17.Also anyone here with Dunlop Sport Maxx?I'd be interested in any feedback.Also treadwear ratings if possible.:)
mugen88
15-08-2007, 08:53 AM
Was quoted on RE001 at $315 ea in 225/45/17 a few months back.
Just rang a few places in Melb (BJ, BTC, TP). Pricing was $297 to $325. Bit more than I was expecting.
Has anyone actually got them fitted closer to $250? (225/45/17)
mugen88
15-08-2007, 06:16 PM
Just rang a few places in Melb (BJ, BTC, TP). Pricing was $297 to $325. Bit more than I was expecting.
Has anyone actually got them fitted closer to $250? (225/45/17)
Picked up Yoko S-Drives for around that in Melb after some haggling, they are normally quoted around town for $290-$320ea.
tony1234
15-08-2007, 07:10 PM
Was quoted on RE001 at $315 ea in 225/45/17 a few months back.
Hmm,not cheap.I can get Conti sport contact 2s for $320 ea without haggling.What's the treadwear on the RE001s?The Conti's are 280.
Entity
15-08-2007, 10:37 PM
narrowed my search down to 2 tyres
falken fk452 (lots of good reviews as falken's flagship tyre)
or
goodyear ls2000 (goodyear's new "bio friendly" tyre)
any pointers?
p.s. are directional tyres better than non directional?? (assuming u dont mind the noise)
MiSloVic
16-08-2007, 11:01 PM
am on falken fk452. would say the grip on wet and dry is at least as good as the goodyear F1 gsd3, at 2/3 the cost. it is rather quiet as well. it is not a license to go fast on wet roads, but it does feel much more stable and reassuring than the stock BS re040.
problem the only issue i have is, that it is very sensitive to tyre pressure. too high, it gets very firm, and too low, the tyre bounces.
tony1234
17-08-2007, 07:47 AM
IMO you don't skimp on tyres.The Euro is a semi luxury car so spend as much as you can afford on rubber,it's the only thing between your car and the road.:)
Was quoted on RE001 at $315 ea in 225/45/17 a few months back.
See John @ protek
got mine 235/40/18 for $300
Entity
17-08-2007, 05:50 PM
IMO you don't skimp on tyres.The Euro is a semi luxury car so spend as much as you can afford on rubber,it's the only thing between your car and the road.:)
i know, but the new falken 452 are their flagship and seems to be all the rave lately..
besides, i just need a "safe" tyre, my euro is hardly a sports car and is not driven that way so i dont need $350 performance tyres to be "safe"
rest assured i'm not gonna be buying the $120 nankang ns-2's from tempe if thats what you're worried about :p
tony1234
17-08-2007, 05:58 PM
i know, but the new falken 452 are their flagship and seems to be all the rave lately..
besides, i just need a "safe" tyre, my euro is hardly a sports car and is not driven that way so i dont need $350 performance tyres to be "safe"
rest assured i'm not gonna be buying the $120 nankang ns-2's from tempe if thats what you're worried about :p
Or Ling Long!!!Just the name sounds dodgy.:thumbdwn:
mattpearce
18-08-2007, 09:21 AM
I just got a set of Goodyear F1s GS-D3 for my Euro.
Goodyear are running a buy 3 get 4 promo through their Goodyear branded stores.
Goodyear F1, 225/45/r17 x 3 @ $330 each = $990 + fitting, tyre disposal = $1020inc for four F1s. $247.50 each is pretty good.
Matt
OK. RE001 for me. I'll replace the 2 front tyres and see if it resolves the drift-to-the-right.
So has anyone else here put RE001 on their 17" Rims? (225/45/17)
Hey V205....Iv'e changed my tryes to michelin's pilot sport II, rear camber kit and front alignment kit aswell still pulling to the right excessively under cambered road...so replacing your tyres will not fix the issue, sorry. I know it's frustrating....the michelins I replaced my reo40's with are much better, less tramlinig, absorbs bumps better more tread, excellant tyre...a little chunky though. Put in a safety report/complaint (consumer affairs or Dept. of fair trading).
aaronng
19-08-2007, 01:39 PM
Hi LXRY, what's your front and rear toe settings at the moment? Have you had your k-frame readjusted back to stock?
Hi LXRY, what's your front and rear toe settings at the moment? Have you had your k-frame readjusted back to stock?
Doing another wheel alignment again tommorrow, will ask if they put the k-frame back the way it was, will post results then...;)
aaronng
20-08-2007, 05:14 PM
Remember to get the before and after printout for the front/rear camber, front/rear toe and front castor.
Remember to get the before and after printout for the front/rear camber, front/rear toe and front castor.
Will do thanx aaronng ;)
EuroDude
20-08-2007, 10:29 PM
Ive found that the Yokohama C.Drives are too grippy, the steering wheel moves with every ridge and bump in the road and there have been times where the car forcefully steers itself towards the pavement lolz
I may try Advan AD07's next time
aaronng
20-08-2007, 11:31 PM
Ive found that the Yokohama C.Drives are too grippy, the steering wheel moves with every ridge and bump in the road and there have been times where the car forcefully steers itself towards the pavement lolz
I may try Advan AD07's next time
AD07s are more grippy than C.Drives. :) It's not the tyre's fault. It's your front toe.
What is the factory toe setting for the euro?
Moderate toeing in or out have both pluses and minus:
Ie. Toe out is better for turning response.. but on the expense of tyre wear and high speed stability.
Any care to elaborate?
I usually go for the as-sporty-as-possible feel without an overly high expense of wear and tear and daily driving comfort.
AD07s are more grippy than C.Drives. :) It's not the tyre's fault. It's your front toe.
EuroDude
21-08-2007, 03:10 PM
AD07s are more grippy than C.Drives. :) It's not the tyre's fault. It's your front toe.
Interesting, so all I need is a wheel alignment?
whoops21
22-08-2007, 09:31 PM
I just got Yokohama C-drives 225/45/17 a couple of days ago.... and i must say
after a few days of driving in the wet (thanks to horid sydney weather we've been getting) grip level is top notch! Car is much smoother, quiet ride and i feel much more comfortable than the stock Re 040..
got quoted:
Falken 452s from local dealer for $175
Dunlop Sportmax for $240 from local dealer.
Yoko C-drives for $275 from local bob jane.. plus free Wheel alignment and balancing..... and take it back there in 3 months for another wheel alignment n balance for FREE!!:thumbsup:
glad i paid the extra money for the c-drive... a well long term investment!
whoops21
22-08-2007, 09:35 PM
Ive found that the Yokohama C.Drives are too grippy, the steering wheel moves with every ridge and bump in the road and there have been times where the car forcefully steers itself towards the pavement lolz
I may try Advan AD07's next time
i myself have found the car steers itself with the slightest turn or bump... but i found out that occured from my tyre pressure too high... the bloke who pumped my tyres up to 42psi all round without me knowing... i lowered it down to 36psi front 34psi rear.. and found it fine.
aaronng
22-08-2007, 09:48 PM
What is the factory toe setting for the euro?
Moderate toeing in or out have both pluses and minus:
Ie. Toe out is better for turning response.. but on the expense of tyre wear and high speed stability.
Any care to elaborate?
I usually go for the as-sporty-as-possible feel without an overly high expense of wear and tear and daily driving comfort.
Stock is zero toe at the front and 1mm toe in on each rear wheel. If you use a slight toe out, your get increased steering response (more sensitive) but your car will follow camber quite badly. I am using only 0.3mm toe out on each front wheel and the car will tramline and follow camber. Conversely, setting a slight toe in of 0.5mm on each side will improve stability, making your car less likely to tramline.
Zero toe wears the tyres least when driving straight. It is true that toe out can wear your tyres, but even a small 0.3mm toe out is enough to give tramlining without causing accelerated wear when driving straight. Most tyre shops have told me that I wouldn't be able to feel the difference between 0.5mm toe in and 0.3mm toe out. I told them to just set it for me and it is a big difference with regards to the Euro. :)
aaronng
22-08-2007, 09:49 PM
Interesting, so all I need is a wheel alignment?
Yup, I've had -0.3mm, 0mm and +0.5mm (each side) on the front same set of tyres and it is a big difference. If you travel a lot on freeways and prefer stability, go for the 0.5mm toe in (total 1.0mm toe in).
insanesam
23-08-2007, 01:50 PM
I just got Yokohama C-drives 225/45/17 a couple of days ago.... and i must say
after a few days of driving in the wet (thanks to horid sydney weather we've been getting) grip level is top notch! Car is much smoother, quiet ride and i feel much more comfortable than the stock Re 040..
got quoted:
Falken 452s from local dealer for $175
Dunlop Sportmax for $240 from local dealer.
Yoko C-drives for $275 from local bob jane.. plus free Wheel alignment and balancing..... and take it back there in 3 months for another wheel alignment n balance for FREE!!:thumbsup:
glad i paid the extra money for the c-drive... a well long term investment!
I heard the SportsMax are pretty good tyres, but apparently pretty expensive. I got quoted like 340$ per tyre. Can i ask where you got that quote from. I'm in need of new tyres and probably opting for the Michelin Pilot Precedas (PP2) at 245$ per tyre. Any comments on the Michelins?
EuroDude
23-08-2007, 03:21 PM
Yup, I've had -0.3mm, 0mm and +0.5mm (each side) on the front same set of tyres and it is a big difference. If you travel a lot on freeways and prefer stability, go for the 0.5mm toe in (total 1.0mm toe in).
sweet thx for the info. My tyre pressure is 37 all around at the moment, probably a little too high :p
aaronng
23-08-2007, 04:00 PM
sweet thx for the info. My tyre pressure is 37 all around at the moment, probably a little too high :p
I use 36psi. You should give 34-35psi a go.
I heard the SportsMax are pretty good tyres, but apparently pretty expensive. I got quoted like 340$ per tyre. Can i ask where you got that quote from. I'm in need of new tyres and probably opting for the Michelin Pilot Precedas (PP2) at 245$ per tyre. Any comments on the Michelins?
I have a set of michelins pilot precedas II I paid $275 balanced and fitted, which i thought was cheap, but your price is amazing....at $245 a tyre what are you waiting for ;).
EXCELLANT tyre !!!!!! Very QUIET and excellant in the WET too. Very little TRAMLINING, made for euro's.
whoops21
23-08-2007, 09:54 PM
I heard the SportsMax are pretty good tyres, but apparently pretty expensive. I got quoted like 340$ per tyre. Can i ask where you got that quote from. I'm in need of new tyres and probably opting for the Michelin Pilot Precedas (PP2) at 245$ per tyre. Any comments on the Michelins?
A Place In "Old Guildford" off Fairfield St and Donald St place is called AAA Tyres"
i reckon u could get it cheaper based on how good ur bargaining skills are lol
but stocks on the sports max are limited..
cheers
insanesam
09-10-2007, 08:38 PM
Finally got my tyres. I wanted to get the Michelin Pilot Precedas 2 but the tyre dude convinced me otherwise stating that they are not as good nowadays since they are made in south east asia somewhere. Ending up getting the Dunlop Sport Maxx at 260 each. For some reason the tyre does not "bulge" out as much. I remember with my Potenzas it bulges out a fair bit which protects the rims. Can anyone shed some light on why it doesn't bulge out much. The size is 225/45/17 on the '05 Lux rims.
aaronng
09-10-2007, 08:49 PM
260.... ouch.
insanesam
09-10-2007, 09:01 PM
Not a good price? Cheapest i found was 250 for the sport maxx. Most places quoted around the 280-320 mark. Went for the 260 place because its 2 mins from my house. Forgot to mention i'm in Sydney so the prices are probably bit high relative to other states.
aaronng
09-10-2007, 09:15 PM
Nah, they are good tyres. If it was me, I would go for something alright for street like RE001 or C/S.Drive.
Finally got my tyres. I wanted to get the Michelin Pilot Precedas 2 but the tyre dude convinced me otherwise stating that they are not as good nowadays since they are made in south east asia somewhere. Ending up getting the Dunlop Sport Maxx at 260 each. For some reason the tyre does not "bulge" out as much. I remember with my Potenzas it bulges out a fair bit which protects the rims. Can anyone shed some light on why it doesn't bulge out much. The size is 225/45/17 on the '05 Lux rims.
the tyre dude was wrong, the michelin's are great tyres IMO 260 is a good price from the quotes I got too, however michelins are better. They make more money from dunlops than they do on michelin's, most likely he wanted a sale and michelins are pricey.......how does your car feel with the new tread ?
insanesam
11-10-2007, 10:38 PM
the tyre dude was wrong, the michelin's are great tyres IMO 260 is a good price from the quotes I got too, however michelins are better. They make more money from dunlops than they do on michelin's, most likely he wanted a sale and michelins are pricey.......how does your car feel with the new tread ?
Yeah i was so close to getting the Michelins at 240 each. This may sound stupid but i don't like the tread pattern of them, they look so conservative. I reckon the dunlops look better (more aggressive). The tyres seem real sticky and pretty soft. It rained a tonight in sydney and the tyres felt stuck to the road. so far pretty happy. Although the next tyres i might get would be the either the maxxis maz1 or kumho ku31. They get pretty good reviews and the prices are quite good (200, 210 respectively).
One thing i'm not happy about my dunlops is the "bulgy" thing. Basically realised the tyre in this particular size doesn't have the rim protector like the potenzas. i dont really know how effective these rim protectors are but i like the look of them.
rim protectors work trust me......michelins great in wet too, and yes the dunlops seem to be a softer rubber great for grip.....whats the tramlining like ?
$260? woooo i would just go for re001. It costs my frd $1100 for a set of 4 in 18' and cost me a bit more because of the wide.
It handles so nice on track and quiet on street.
insanesam
11-10-2007, 10:57 PM
Its not as bad as the stock potenzas. i got wheel alignment done aswell. i guess if i drop tyre pressures down a bit it be better (tyres at 36 psi all around)
killua888
13-10-2007, 04:32 PM
hmmmm,i might be getting new tyres soon as well. considering RE001, C drives or S Drives as well but i'm still waiting for my current tyres to run out a bit more.
The best advice i can give anyone is to just open up the phone book and call up every tyre store to ask about the price. Will Prob take you 15 -20minutes but the savings are sure worth it.
I'm currently running the RE010's, i think they are discontinued now.(Were they the RE001's predecessors?) when i got them i was ringing up every tyre store to ask about tyre prices, every single store i called up quoted between 240-260 per corner. Then finally i got to a store in Eastwood, Sydney, they just ordered the RE010's in bulk and the savings got passed onto me at $150 per corner. I was pretty damn happy.
aaronng
13-10-2007, 05:19 PM
^^ Nope, RE010's are passenger tyres. RE001 replaces the GIII and S03.
kenbo
14-10-2007, 03:09 AM
^^ Nope, RE010's are passenger tyres. RE001 replaces the GIII and S03.
Are GIII and S03's the same? Looks like the same thread pattern.....
fraqqie
14-10-2007, 11:16 PM
tyre shopping can be so stressful :confused:
i'm replacing the infamous falken ziex 326 (225-40-18), ok during dry, absolute peanuts in the wet... lmao
any recommendations for good tyre places in and around southwest sydney (carbamatta)?
i'm thinking of hitting the usual beaurepaires, bob jane, bridgestone store and jaxx but I'm more than welcome to give a shot at any other good tyre stores
thx in advance!
aaronng
15-10-2007, 12:50 AM
Regarding my post about the RE010, I made a mistake, they are pretty grippy. :)
aaronng
15-10-2007, 12:52 AM
Are GIII and S03's the same? Looks like the same thread pattern.....
They are similar, but the pattern of the GIII is more similar to the RE010.
tony1234
15-10-2007, 07:23 AM
tyre shopping can be so stressful :confused:
i'm replacing the infamous falken ziex 326 (225-40-18), ok during dry, absolute peanuts in the wet... lmao
any recommendations for good tyre places in and around southwest sydney (carbamatta)?
i'm thinking of hitting the usual beaurepaires, bob jane, bridgestone store and jaxx but I'm more than welcome to give a shot at any other good tyre stores
thx in advance!
Bob Jane Tempe.:thumbsup:
chosen_one
15-10-2007, 01:10 PM
I called quite a few tyre retailers in Adelaide. Most prices for an Adrenalin 225/45R17 were around the $330 mark. Best I got was $284.
Merlin086
14-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Just got a set of Pirelli Dragons in 225/45/17 for $259 each.
Wish I lived in Sydney still....$225 in inbelievable from Cheapatyres 4u.
But they are apparently about to be phased out due to Pirelli reducing there range, so no more into the country, just what is left here already...:thumbdwn:
CIGXM
18-12-2007, 05:53 AM
Hi folks.
Just went and got my 40000km service, and was surprised to find I still had 6mm of tread on the front and 5mm on the back of my stock RE040 tyres. They're performing fine in the dry, but are starting to feel a bit 'flighty' in the wet, particularly if I hit a bit of re-tarred gravel or something.
I've been thinking about getting some Dunlop SP Sport Maxx's, but the tread life on the stock tyres has me thinking twice. What do you guys think?
tony1234
18-12-2007, 06:16 AM
Hi folks.
Just went and got my 40000km service, and was surprised to find I still had 6mm of tread on the front and 5mm on the back of my stock RE040 tyres. They're performing fine in the dry, but are starting to feel a bit 'flighty' in the wet, particularly if I hit a bit of re-tarred gravel or something.
I've been thinking about getting some , but the tread life on the stock tyres has me thinking twice. What do you guys think?
I've heard good things about Dunlop SP Sport Maxx's.made in Germany i think.
EuroDude
18-12-2007, 09:22 AM
Ive had the Pirelli Dragons for over a week now, they are ok but not as grippy as the Yoko C-Drives. They tend to squeal easier during launch and during hard cornering, plus they seem to be a bit noiser at high speed.
C-Drives > Dragons
Merlin086
18-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Ive had the Pirelli Dragons for over a week now, they are ok but not as grippy as the Yoko C-Drives. They tend to squeal easier during launch and during hard cornering, plus they seem to be a bit noiser at high speed.
C-Drives > Dragons
It will be interesting to see how the mileage compares, after all it is a harder compound, so you would expect a bit more noise.
where can i get good cheap used tyres?? thats with like 80-90% thread??? 17inch that is...
stalin
19-12-2007, 02:27 AM
hi just wondering would any of you guys know if these wheels will suit my euro:
19" 8.5
XHP DIRTY DOG http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=903
dont know much about wheels and tyres but also is the pcd 5/114 correct for the car /? any help is preciated
stalin
19-12-2007, 02:39 AM
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=903
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=903
deadmanaus
06-05-2008, 10:19 AM
Hey All
Looking at getting some new Tyres this week, been quoted $250 per wheel for Yokohama A-Drive R1 225/45R17.
Just wondering if this price is any good and also how long i would expect the tyres to last?
Cheers!
Scratch that, no stock - they have S.Drive's for $270 - any help is appreciated as i really have no clue!
SiReal
06-05-2008, 10:38 AM
i have S drives . there was talk back then on S drives VS bridgeston adrenalins.
I'm believe the adrenalins are more expensive.
anyway, onto the S drives - used them in that same size for around 20,000 kms. GREAT tyre compared to my old ones. so much grip. i have never understeered or oversteered and lost traction! (my car is auto and has no power). They are also apparently a very long lasting tyre, due to the compound of the rubber. Its served me well thus far.
overall, great tyre however i would never pay that much for tyres again. i'm wanting to try a premium korean tyre next - like kumho. see how they go.
TALEB TYRES
06-05-2008, 12:35 PM
Hey guys, not sure if you guys know but if your looking for top brands at cheap prices, we have some specials on,
heres the link to my thread in my trader forum on this specific size
Ali
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85681
rikstar
06-05-2008, 12:42 PM
i recently got a set of Pirelli PZero Nero on my 17' rims and they are brilliant. Not cheap but i got them on special ($285 per/corner) and so far so good.
Immediate improvements were noise level and grip in the wet. I was driving with OEM Bridgestone RE040's and they were starting to loose my confidence.
EK Civic R
06-05-2008, 01:00 PM
I have the pzero neros on my 17s as well, I've been bit disappointed...
In the wet were better than the RE040s, but not in the dry...
I tested each tire on the track as well, and was easily getting faster lap times with the RE040. Found the side walls on Pirellis really weak and would loose grip when heated up... I've used Pirellis before and have always found the side walls weak, but apparently the rossos are much better, but they cost too much
ShAwNeX
06-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Bridgestone RE050
aaronng
06-05-2008, 07:29 PM
Money is no object? RE070. :p
tony1234
06-05-2008, 07:48 PM
Money is no object? RE070. :p
How much are they?what's so good about them?:)
Money is no object? RE070. :p
Lucky choice as the only size available in OZ is 225/45R17; just right for a Euro with 17" wheels.
OEM tyre for the WRX-STi.
http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/re070.aspx
aaronng
07-05-2008, 10:02 AM
No idea on price, but they are more expensive than RE01R, which are about $280 in 205/55 R16. LOL If RE070 was made in 205/55 R16, it would be over $280, then tack on 225/45 R17... OUCH!
EK Civic R
07-05-2008, 03:46 PM
I've heard good things about the Adrenalins as well..
Wonder if their value for money as well?
I have no hesitation saying that the Dunlop Sport Maxx is a good one. And it's available in every size imaginable except ridiculous 20" sizes for Euro!!!
deadmanaus
07-05-2008, 08:04 PM
Well got the S.Drive's put on today - first impression is very good, heaps better than the worn out Bridgestones (38k on them), sticks to the road! Very impressed :)
Have a trip down the Coffs coming up so will see how they go on that, may take the winding road ;)
chosen_one
17-06-2008, 11:38 AM
I noticed Bob Jane has a catalogue out with Bridgestone ER 300 in 225/45/R17 advertised for $219 per corner. Bridgestone market them as a touring tyre.
Has anyone tried them out for everyday driving as opposed to spirited driving?
What is the OEM tyre on Euros these days?
aaronng
17-06-2008, 12:07 PM
Touring tyre = sedate driving.
Have you considered Toyo T1R for around a similar price?
chosen_one
17-06-2008, 12:27 PM
Touring tyre = sedate driving.
Have you considered Toyo T1R for around a similar price?
Nice looking tyre, will give it some thought. Thanks.
Is anyone here running Adrenalin RE001 on their Euro in 225/45/17?
225/45/17 RE001 , RE040 and RE050....which one will you guys choose for Euro? Anyone know the price for them?
Type R Positive
28-06-2008, 02:08 AM
225/45/17 RE001 , RE040 and RE050....which one will you guys choose for Euro? Anyone know the price for them?
I haven't tried them, but out of those I'd choose RE001, mainly because of the rap everyone's giving them, and I think they are also cheaper than the other two you mentioned.
The RE050's would be nice to try if you have the $$$.
tony1234
28-06-2008, 08:10 AM
Going on past experience OEM tyres are usually not that good.I've changed them out on my last 3 cars i've bought new.
just buy the Dunlop Direzza DZ101, i bought them for $145 a pop for 17", great tyres.
aaronng
28-06-2008, 10:16 AM
RE040 is decent, RE050 is very nice (new STI comes with RE050A, old STI came with RE070). RE001 has best bang for your buck as it would most probably be the cheapest out of the 3. I am using RE001 on my car.
RE040 is decent, RE050 is very nice (new STI comes with RE050A, old STI came with RE070). RE001 has best bang for your buck as it would most probably be the cheapest out of the 3. I am using RE001 on my car.
Are there any big differences in performance between those 3?
aaronng
28-06-2008, 11:20 PM
Are there any big differences in performance between those 3?
There is. I think grip-wise, it should be RE050A > RE001 > RE040.
Price-wise, RE050A > RE040 > RE001.
There is. I think grip-wise, it should be RE050A > RE001 > RE040.
Price-wise, RE050A > RE040 > RE001.
So the RE001 has better grip than RE040 in both dry and wet condition?
For the price-wise, why RE040>RE001? RE001 is cheaper than RE040 and has better grip rite? should it be RE001>RE040?
Type R Positive
29-06-2008, 06:23 AM
RE040 oem tyre. oem tyres usually cost more.
Min988
29-06-2008, 08:57 AM
I got RE050A on at the moment, they stick like crazy, but very very noisy.
aaronng
29-06-2008, 10:45 AM
So the RE001 has better grip than RE040 in both dry and wet condition?
For the price-wise, why RE040>RE001? RE001 is cheaper than RE040 and has better grip rite? should it be RE001>RE040?
Like what Type R positive said, they are OEM tyres. RE050 is also OEM for the Liberty and a few others, but the RE050A is OEM for the new STI and I think also the NSX Type R.
aaronng
29-06-2008, 10:45 AM
I got RE050A on at the moment, they stick like crazy, but very very noisy.
How much did you pay for them and what size do you have?
ShAwNeX
29-06-2008, 03:09 PM
I would highly recommend Falken FK-452.
Very good value for the money.
I would highly recommend Falken FK-452.
Very good value for the money.
How much r they?
Like what Type R positive said, they are OEM tyres. RE050 is also OEM for the Liberty and a few others, but the RE050A is OEM for the new STI and I think also the NSX Type R.
Although RE040 is more expensive than RE001, it doesnt mean that they r better rite? just because they r OEM tyres?
ShAwNeX
29-06-2008, 03:30 PM
How much r they?
I can't remember how much because I bought it with wheels. But from memory, I think it was $200-$250 each for 17" rims.
aaronng
29-06-2008, 05:13 PM
Although RE040 is more expensive than RE001, it doesnt mean that they r better rite? just because they r OEM tyres?
That's right. More expensive doesn't mean better. I can offer you DUnlop SP2050m which costs $280 for 205/55 R16, and they are right up there with Nankang. I prefer Nankang over SP2050m
chosen_one
01-07-2008, 01:06 PM
That's funny, I needed a spare tyre back in Oct 2007 (nail thru the side wall) and at the time was informed by more than one store that the RE040 in 225/45R17 had been discontinued. So I ended up getting one RE001 and sticking it in the boot as an odd spare with the intention of getting another when the time came to get new tyres.
After reading the posts above I got back onto the Bridgestone website and low and behold there lists a 225/45/17 in the RE040 range.
Did they ever discontinue that tyre for a short period of time or did I just get dud information?
aaronng
01-07-2008, 01:13 PM
That's funny, I needed a spare tyre back in Oct 2007 (nail thru the side wall) and at the time was informed by more than one store that the RE040 in 225/45R17 had been discontinued. So I ended up getting one RE001 and sticking it in the boot as an odd spare with the intention of getting another when the time came to get new tyres.
After reading the posts above I got back onto the Bridgestone website and low and behold there lists a 225/45/17 in the RE040 range.
Did they ever discontinue that tyre for a short period of time or did I just get dud information?
Which shop was that? I would have asked a bridgestone tyre centre. :)
E-Gene
01-07-2008, 01:27 PM
It was never discontinued. I was quoted $375 at a Tyrepower for one just a few weeks ago.
tpphan
01-07-2008, 02:11 PM
I have recently changed over from my OEM RE040 to RE001. I had the RE040 since new and after approx. 55000 K's its had enough, mostly motorway driving.
As you know, worn tyres vs new ones are hard to compare for obvious reasons but I'll do my best.
Road noise on the RE040 were very good when new and was quite impressed. Until you meet cement/concrete surfaces, especially the F1 up to Newcastle, NSW. Most tyres are fairly loud on these surfaces anyway, but the RE001 did have improvements, the cabin feels a lot more quiet. If you compare both on bitumen, basically the same.
Grip wise, the RE001 is much better. Can never seem to get VSA to kick in during hard cornering, its glued to the ground, even in the wet. Less fun of course :)
If anyone has had experience with Bridgestone's S03 then you will know these are good and for $278 per corner, why not? It's still a new tyre and hardly any reviews so people are undecided, but if you are planning to change from RE040's to RE001, its a better tyre and cheaper, you got nothing to lose.
These tyres won't last me as long as they are much softer, the only downside to them.
I was told by BTC that RE040's are discontinued but stock is still available, untill they run out.
BTW, $278 is for 225/45/R17. Includes balance plus fitting. North Parramatta BTC.
aaronng
01-07-2008, 02:56 PM
I have recently changed over from my OEM RE040 to RE001. I had the RE040 since new and after approx. 55000 K's its had enough, mostly motorway driving.
As you know, worn tyres vs new ones are hard to compare for obvious reasons but I'll do my best.
Road noise on the RE040 were very good when new and was quite impressed. Until you meet cement/concrete surfaces, especially the F1 up to Newcastle, NSW. Most tyres are fairly loud on these surfaces anyway, but the RE001 did have improvements, the cabin feels a lot more quiet. If you compare both on bitumen, basically the same.
Grip wise, the RE001 is much better. Can never seem to get VSA to kick in during hard cornering, its glued to the ground, even in the wet. Less fun of course :)
If anyone has had experience with Bridgestone's S03 then you will know these are good and for $278 per corner, why not? It's still a new tyre and hardly any reviews so people are undecided, but if you are planning to change from RE040's to RE001, its a better tyre and cheaper, you got nothing to lose.
These tyres won't last me as long as they are much softer, the only downside to them.
I was told by BTC that RE040's are discontinued but stock is still available, untill they run out.
BTW, $278 is for 225/45/R17. Includes balance plus fitting. North Parramatta BTC.
For RE001 in Sydney, give Bob Jane in Hornsby a call for pricing. They have been the cheapest for Re001 in 205/55 R16. Maybe they are cheaper than others for 225/45 R17 as well.
chosen_one
01-07-2008, 03:53 PM
Which shop was that? I would have asked a bridgestone tyre centre. :)
A couple of Bridgestone outlets. I guess the stores I called didn't have any excess stock of the RE040.
Just for info, I picked up my RE001 for $284 from a BTC.
Min988
01-07-2008, 04:13 PM
How much did you pay for them and what size do you have?
I got them with the Type S rim factory tyre 215/45/R17, fairly worn though, I've gone shopping and have been quoted $380,372 and 365 per tyre fitted and $99 with 80 percent tread and $72 fitted with 50 percent tread. In Brisbane
tony1234
01-07-2008, 06:00 PM
It was never discontinued. I was quoted $375 at a Tyrepower for one just a few weeks ago.
$375 for RE040,they must be on drugs.I can get CSC3s for $380.Which is the better tyre???
$375 for RE040,they must be on drugs.I can get CSC3s for $380.Which is the better tyre???
REO40 are badly over rated and not worth that much, they ripping you off or on some serious drugs as Tony1234 suggests ;)
Try Michelins PP2's they served me well till now great in the wet aswell and not that pricey as above......$270-$320 depending how hard you search.
aaronng
01-07-2008, 06:28 PM
I'm sticking to my RE001 in 205/55 R16. Paid $165 fitted and balanced at Bob Jane Hornsby!!! So much cheaper than the 17" ones.
I'm sticking to my RE001 in 205/55 R16. Paid $165 fitted and balanced at Bob Jane Hornsby!!! So much cheaper than the 17" ones.
I can see why, that's cheap :eek:
aaronng
01-07-2008, 09:01 PM
I can see why, that's cheap :eek:
Plus, if I had aftermarket rims, they wouldn't stay on my car for long. I'd find it on bricks............ :(
For RE001 in Sydney, give Bob Jane in Hornsby a call for pricing. They have been the cheapest for Re001 in 205/55 R16. Maybe they are cheaper than others for 225/45 R17 as well.
every Bob Jane has different price?
I got them with the Type S rim factory tyre 215/45/R17......
215/45R17 is the wrong size for the CL9 Euro. The correct sizes are either 225/45R17 (factory fitted size) or 205/50R17 which has a slightly less wide contact patch and so in (my) theory should be less prone to tramlining.
every Bob Jane has different price?
Because they are a franchise? They also probably do as the supermarkets do and charge higher prices in affluent suburbs.
For RE001 in Sydney, give Bob Jane in Hornsby a call for pricing. They have been the cheapest for Re001 in 205/55 R16. Maybe they are cheaper than others for 225/45 R17 as well.
I called hornsby bob jane before, they said $277 for R001 fitted and balance, and I also get the price of RE050 from Taleb Tyres, they said $280 fitted and balance. I was just wondering which one is better, as there price are very similar.
tony1234
02-07-2008, 07:29 AM
Because they are a franchise? They also probably do as the supermarkets do and charge higher prices in affluent suburbs.
Exactly.But they'll price match.
I am using the RE040 now, is it ok to just change 1 tyre to RE001, as 3 of my tyres are still ok to use.? or it is better to change all to RE001?
aaronng
07-07-2008, 09:29 PM
I am using the RE040 now, is it ok to just change 1 tyre to RE001, as 3 of my tyres are still ok to use.? or it is better to change all to RE001?
Don't change one. If you have to change, change a front pair or rear pair. Never use different tyres on left and right sides.
viper8548
08-07-2008, 02:45 PM
Plus, if I had aftermarket rims, they wouldn't stay on my car for long. I'd find it on bricks............ :(
lol where do you live, I'm scared of that as well. Is there any way to prevent someone stealing your wheels?
The X Man
08-07-2008, 03:29 PM
Some good lock nuts?
tony1234
08-07-2008, 06:48 PM
Some good lock nuts?
Lock nuts only keep the dickheads away.If someone really wants your rims they'll crack the lock nuts.BTW i've got lock nuts.
Crapdaz
08-07-2008, 06:53 PM
Lock nuts only keep the dickheads away.If someone really wants your rims they'll crack the lock nuts.BTW i've got lock nuts.
are all your nuts locked nuts? hehehe :wave:
cause i've got 5zigen pro racer ones but only 1 out of 5 are lock.
btw what do you guys reckon of 225/40/18 92 load rated dunlop sp sport maxx tyres for $320/corner, is it a good deal?
REK13S
08-07-2008, 07:13 PM
i found bridgestone smithfield have special on re001 225/45/R17 $215 fitted and balanced
chosen_one
09-07-2008, 12:47 PM
i found bridgestone smithfield have special on re001 225/45/R17 $215 fitted and balanced
Wow,that is a great price. I paid $284 a few months ago.
No chance of me getting to Smithfield so am just back from Eastwood Tyres... Picked up a set of 17" RE001s for $265 each fitted and balanced with valves etc. Really great to deal with and car feels much better on the 20min drive home but my original RE040s were totally donald ducked.... :zip:
All in all a :thumbsup: for Eastwood Tyres. If you call tell them Jon sent you and that you read about them on here. I told them all about the forum and how we all shared prices etc. :cool:
FWIW, Bob Jane Hornsby wanted 276 and Bridgetsone Hornsby wanted 278 for the same tyres on the same day... neither would discount...
QDC2R
09-07-2008, 01:57 PM
I reckon ADVAN AD07 235/45/17, it is better than RE001 and only $1100 for a set...if any people want them i can help u guys out. pm me for more information.
regards
Type R Positive
09-07-2008, 07:05 PM
I reckon ADVAN AD07 235/45/17, it is better than RE001 and only $1100 for a set...if any people want them i can help u guys out. pm me for more information.
regards
Interesting read:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=100
aaronng
09-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Yeah, AD07 is grippier than RE001. Not sure why RE001 is so expensive in 225/45 R17. Can you get AD07 in 205/55 R16?
QDC2R
09-07-2008, 08:09 PM
Yeah, AD07 is grippier than RE001. Not sure why RE001 is so expensive in 225/45 R17. Can you get AD07 in 205/55 R16?
i have 205/45/16....but not in 55
i found bridgestone smithfield have special on re001 225/45/R17 $215 fitted and balanced
thats really cheap...are they still on special?
Don't change one. If you have to change, change a front pair or rear pair. Never use different tyres on left and right sides.
thanks! so if I just change the front or rear pair, instead of just changing one...then that's fine rite? or it is still not good?
REK13S
10-07-2008, 07:35 AM
they told me its the special of the month and also $5 off each tyre if your a nrma member
thats really cheap...are they still on special?
aaronng
10-07-2008, 08:12 AM
thanks! so if I just change the front or rear pair, instead of just changing one...then that's fine rite? or it is still not good?
It is fine. Make sure you put the better tyres at the rear and drive carefully for the first 500km because the old tyres will be slippery.
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