Exhaust For FD

[ej20i]

Hey guys, thinking of getting an axle back exhaust for my FD..
was told that a twin loop is good for the civic..
i need an advice and also if possible if you guys have a sound clip of an axle back
trying to spend arnd 200 to 300
was thinking xforce

[JaCe]

Wait has your FD arrived yet? Is it FD1 or FD2?

[ej20i]

noo..tis fridae...
wads the diff of fd1 and 2?
sorri ima newb...
was an impreza owner...need to buy mods asap since i miss my impreza tooooo much!

[erorxxx]

fd 1 = vti or vti-l
FD 2 = Sport

my suggestion get apexi n1 ,, but gonna cost u around 500-600 incl installation


noo..tis fridae...
wads the diff of fd1 and 2?
sorri ima newb...
was an impreza owner...need to buy mods asap since i miss my impreza tooooo much!

[ej20i]

oh...so its an FD1 then
its a VTi
600 for axle back?man thats expensive..gota save up aloooooong time
lolz

[JaCe]

fd 1 = vti or vti-l
FD 2 = Sport

my suggestion get apexi n1 ,, but gonna cost u around 500-600 incl installation

Any more details? I'm still also noob to exhausts; will it actually improve performance and is it reversible?

[rk 86 wa]

why would you want to buy the mugen axle back when you could get a custom catback for cheaper or around same price?

[xqwzit]

was an impreza owner...need to buy mods asap since i miss my impreza tooooo much!

fd + mods will never turn into a impreza lol

[JaCe]

why would you want to buy the mugen axle back when you could get a custom catback for cheaper or around same price?

Because it is mugennn?

[dmx]

wat r u doing guys in middle of the night ?

[ej20i]

what were u doing in the middle of the night as well DMX?hahahahha
nah coz i miss the exhaust noise, i know that i wont get the boxer rumble noise..but hey, its guna be summin than quite

[dmx]

what were u doing in the middle of the night as well DMX?hahahahha
nah coz i miss the exhaust noise, i know that i wont get the boxer rumble noise..but hey, its guna be summin than quite
hey.. it's 6.08 AM, it's morning, ppl already go for jogging :D

[ej20i]

oops...didnt c the tym
hehehe

[jcpabc]

I've installed a Skunk2 Universal Muffler on my FD1. Sounds good, around 5% torque gain combine with my Fujita CAI. Cost me $500 for the CAI and $350 for the Muffler including installation fee.

[JaCe]

I've installed a Skunk2 Universal Muffler on my FD1. Sounds good, around 5% torque gain combine with my Fujita CAI. Cost me $500 for the CAI and $350 for the Muffler including installation fee.

Sounds good? Got any pics? Was any welding required?

[ej20i]

yeah?pics and sound clip if possible?
was it just an axle back?

[Shimian]

I will be getting an exhaust in a months time so i also would like to get some ideas of what is going around (installed by users). So far im looking at Magnaflow or Remus

[Ivan_Y]

I've installed a Skunk2 Universal Muffler on my FD1. Sounds good, around 5% torque gain combine with my Fujita CAI. Cost me $500 for the CAI and $350 for the Muffler including installation fee.

hi, where did u got the skunk2 muffler? got a pics or sound clip? :D

[dmx]

anybody want MUGEN (FD) tip ? yes, just the tip.

[ej20i]

how much?and picture?

[jckidz]

anybody want MUGEN (FD) tip ? yes, just the tip.

Very much.. Any pics? Also, can PM me the price?

[Shimian]

anyone installed remus or magnaflow here?

[JaCe]

anybody want MUGEN (FD) tip ? yes, just the tip.

Isn't the Mugen exhaust for FD is a single exhaust so I'm inclined to think the tip won't be compatible with a stock FD exhaust unless they've already installed the Mugen Silencer..?

[cracker]

i might get a custom hi tech catback system from hi tech mufflers in sydney i dont know how it will sound tho

[Mingy]

If you are going to install a cannon on your fd's make sure its got a silencer. my mate's friend has a fd with a huge cannon w/o silencer. i gotta say its very loud and very annoying. the sound at the back digs into your ears. just a pointer. cheers

[xqwzit]

^ fd1 or 2?

[Mingy]

FD1 VTI-L(no difference?)

[xqwzit]

why no diff? engine is different

[ej20i]

nah, i dun want loud...had enough of loudness in my impreza especially in a loooooong drive and very droopy...thats y i was i was looking at the twin loop.

[LD_Mart]

nah, i dun want loud...had enough of loudness in my impreza especially in a loooooong drive and very droopy...thats y i was i was looking at the twin loop.

I had a twin loop on mine...
wasnt very loud in the front or outside but still the back passengers couldnt here a thing when you were talking to them...

[bodaas]

Any more details? I'm still also noob to exhausts; will it actually improve performance and is it reversible?

its like you install microsoft 2000 running with pentium 1, will make any different? or make it slower to run?

[cracker]

Bahahahahhahah

[JaCe]

its like you install microsoft 2000 running with pentium 1, will make any different? or make it slower to run?

LOL I think my (semi) IT background has led me to totally misinterpret your analogy so I'll rephrase my question;

1. Is it worth getting it done?
2. If I do get it done, will I be able to remove it (easily) when I go to resell the car?

[denot]

JaCe, what I think bodaas trying to say is that its like you have Windows 2000. and then you want to install it to your P1 PC. So its really doesnt make P1 PC faster or slower. It just "new stuff that you install on your current system". ^_^

Correct me if I'm wrong Bodaas..

[dmx]

but the problems is now windows 2000 not available anymore. only xp or vista.
P1 only available in recycle bins.
and i still don't get confused :confused::confused::confused:LOL

[bodaas]

but the problems is now windows 2000 not available anymore. only xp or vista.
P1 only available in recycle bins.
and i still don't get confused :confused::confused::confused:LOL

lol how the windows xp will run in pentium 1?

i was trying to say, install ing bigger 3.5" exhaust without refreshing your ecu
how can your eCu recognize that? Does it make power?
well the man ask, prolly i jut give em tips

[bodaas]

LOL I think my (semi) IT background has led me to totally misinterpret your analogy so I'll rephrase my question;

1. Is it worth getting it done?
2. If I do get it done, will I be able to remove it (easily) when I go to resell the car?

LOL, the car is running by ecu, my analogy is everytime you install new software program, does your pc need upgrade sometime.
well prolly same as car.
unless you car run by your own foot, like flinstone

[cracker]

mmmmmmmmm but its just a exhaust tho...isnt it trivial to upgrade your ecu? would it even make much of a difference to reflash ecu?

[bodaas]

mmmmmmmmm but its just a exhaust tho...isnt it trivial to upgrade your ecu? would it even make much of a difference to reflash ecu?

the guy just ask whether improve performance or not

if you said that " just a exhaust", lol yeah thats rite

i didnt say it necessary to reflash. well your ecu already program to run the oem exhaust not aftermarket exhaust

so whats the big "D" to your car performance

[cracker]

i love D

[bodaas]

ups sorry, short typed

i mean d for "D*ck"

[dmx]

ups sorry, short typed

i mean d for "D*ck"
yeah... crackers also mean he love "D*ck" too:D

[bodaas]

hahah lol,just kidding
i didnt mean to hurt him :thumbsup:

[dmx]

hahah lol,just kidding
i didnt mean to hurt him :thumbsup:
peace cracker :D

[cracker]

we used to be friends :( lol

[dmx]

we used to be friends :( lol

yes, we're mate, that's why we joked :thumbsup:

[n6290884]

Where u getting ur Mugen Exhaust? Its cat-back? Tried looking for something like that in brisbane but its really hard to find.

[Shimian]

Noob question: In general, if i keep my pipe size (1.75" i think) and install a universal muffler with same pipe size, will there be low end loss? This is for auto FD2. Or is there a general rule for avoiding low end loss when installing universal mufflers?

[markCivicVti]

I'm going to revive this. As over half a year has gone past.

Who now has a exhaust system on their FDs?

I still haven't found a full system for the FD1... and I've looked heaps. One place is telling me there's a "Shark" branded full FD1 system... but it sounds like a cheap crappy brand that no one has ever heard of it.

Anyone care to share their setup?

[johnprocter]

Noob question: In general, if i keep my pipe size (1.75" i think) and install a universal muffler with same pipe size, will there be low end loss? This is for auto FD2. Or is there a general rule for avoiding low end loss when installing universal mufflers?

why not just get a catback instead? muffler is boring and lame and usually ends in a loss of power low end

[xqwzit]

even if you get a catback with bigger piping you will still lose power low end

[.k.]

soo what exhaust systems are people using? branded or custom?

[aero]

i just want a simple (and cheap) looking tip. nothing big like a canon.. i think they dont look that great on FDs.
so maybe something like this universal muffler from xforce?
http://xforce.com.au/img/universal_items/u3_02.jpg

looks a bit like the remus tips but cheaper... lol

anybody live in brisbane and know where i can buy some good and inexpensive mufflers and tips?

[.k.]

im in bris but if i was gonna get an exhaust i'd look at whole thing and not just muffler.. hmm not sure where exactly to get muffler but try 999? and those top fuel 1000 brand ones

[ekdez]

also been hanging out for a cat/axleback LOL..

i think one or two of the traders is offering a catback system.

but would also like to know if anyone has a remus installed.. if so dont be shy in sharing your knowledge :)

[markCivicVti]

Shimian has remus... but I don't just want a muffler.

A couple of traders have cat-back/axle-back systems for the FD2, but not for the FD1.

Might have to get researching and have a system made up with components of my choice if nothing comes to market... either way i'm not paying a muffler shop to make one with parts/diameter of their choosing.

[.k.]

are there a lot of options out there for headers on fd1 r18? .. probs hav to get the headers put on, get cat installed + custom exhaust made up all in one go - you planning on something like that mark?

[ekdez]

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LOL ouch

[markCivicVti]

Well the first one is for FD2.

And all the rest are only mufflers... which are more or less universal anyway.

[markCivicVti]

are there a lot of options out there for headers on fd1 r18? .. probs hav to get the headers put on, get cat installed + custom exhaust made up all in one go - you planning on something like that mark?

There is a Weapon R header from the states, but you better get another cat in there asap if you put that in as it removes your main cat.

[FD2mugen]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=110354547051

anybody tried this one?

[dannybubu]

ive got a kakimoto catback coming in a couple weeks time...so hopefully i'll have it in soon and i'll take some pics...

[jjvv]

i saw the BC cat back exhaust on this forum
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98005

[markCivicVti]

Must be muffler only? Or he is incorrectly stating it's for both FD1 and FD2... as (correct me if I'm wrong) they have very different floor plans. Maybe (just maybe) a axle-back for FD2 might fit FD1? I'd doubt it though.

[black8thgen]

how does a muffler cause loss of power low-end though? or a full catback for that matter =/...

[iversonruls]

Must be muffler only? Or he is incorrectly stating it's for both FD1 and FD2... as (correct me if I'm wrong) they have very different floor plans. Maybe (just maybe) a axle-back for FD2 might fit FD1? I'd doubt it though.

catback...

modify to fit fd1 too

[ekdez]

Maybe (just maybe) a axle-back for FD2 might fit FD1? I'd doubt it though.

anyone know if this is true?

i only want an axle back for my car..
cbf to buy a catback for this new car.. not looking for performance.

[markCivicVti]

catback...

modify to fit fd1 too

If it's "modify to fit FD1", then surely BC haven't done any R&D in performance tuning for this exhaust.

Might as well get a exhaust shop to make up the piping, at least then u can chose the cat, any resonators and the muffler.

[.k.]

are you looking to get full zorst mark?

[markCivicVti]

Yeah full or nothing...

[iversonruls]

If it's "modify to fit FD1", then surely BC haven't done any R&D in performance tuning for this exhaust.

Might as well get a exhaust shop to make up the piping, at least then u can chose the cat, any resonators and the muffler.
its just an extension from the original pipe.. and can be remove easily to fit fd2
the extension pipe is just bolt on..

[markCivicVti]

If thats the case then alright I'll bite. I'll add it on to my list of things to read up on.

Thanks for the heads up.

[JOhnnyFD]

planning to get a new muffler.. what do you guys think about this

im heading towards a buddyclub specIV (a silencer muffler as i dont wanna alot of sound coming out)... coz its more of a universal muffler, i would need to take it into a muffler mechanic (tuffy mufflers) who would make the specific brackets and prob chop the end alittle to fit the FD

currently looking into a new muffler since the FD2R rear bumper is hitting the OEM muffler, and risk of the paint on the bumper melting

[black8thgen]

r u going just muffler or full system?

and can someone tell me how just a muffler loses u low end power as compared to a stock muffler?

[JOhnnyFD]

just muffler... should i get a full system??
buddyclub dont offer catbacks & headers for FD (tat i know of)

[black8thgen]

oh, i dunno. cos after reading some posts everyone says u lose power low end, but i dunno how much power and how bad.. and why lol..

a full system would cost quite a bit though. im also thinking of just muffler.

[JOhnnyFD]

what muffler u plannin to get black8th?

[black8thgen]

planning on an xforce muffler. twin tip one. pretty good price i reckon and seems like a popular and good brand. how much is the buddyclub one ur looking at?

[JOhnnyFD]

buddyclub spec IV muffler quoted for 500.. which xforce muffler ur looking into? price?

[black8thgen]

oh, hmm. uhm xforce MP01 (part number). its a twin tip oval barrel muffler. 200 dollars.

[.k.]

wtf 500 bucks for a muffler? >.>''

has anyone tried x-force varex muffler on fd? - what does it sound like?

for htose that dont know, varex has a remote control buterfly valve that opens/closes so u can adjust sound anytime open = loud obviously..

[black8thgen]

yeah i was thinking of getting a varex lol. but its double the price of a normal muffler (400 for varex, 200 for normal). and honestly, we're driving civics here, i reckon the varex is only worthit if ur driving a more performance car or somethign.. eg. sti, v8 =/.. but each to their own i guess.

[JOhnnyFD]

what.. too much??

Disclaimer
VAREX MUFFLERS ARE DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED WITH THE INTENTION FOR RACE AND OFF-ROAD USE ONLY. soo.. not for street use?

[.k.]

lol where was that disclaimer? i heard above varex through net / ignition dvd on street car.. but the disclaimer is a bit disconcerning.. =S

[black8thgen]

well, that doesn't mean u cant use it for street, i think it just means its enhancing power which u dont need on the streets? and as it claims on the site its "great for turbo cars". or something like that.. i mean sure its a pretty cool thing to have, i mean play around with ur exhaust loudness lol.. its like a toy =D. but yeah for 200 bucks more.. id go with a normal xforce muffler =D.

[hisoka]

varex will give you problems getting rwc aswell lol.

is it the one that goes loud than quite if you want ?

.k. all exhausts have the disclaimer. no exhaust is deemed save for public use (street use)

[black8thgen]

yea its that one, u can open the butterfly valve and close it..

well i'd say just go for a normal xforce muffler, since its cheap.. i reckon no need for like the buddyclub jap brands and such

[hisoka]

buddyclub isnt jap brand. its taiwanese.

even top fuel zero1000 is more japanese than buddyclub lol.

if i were you guys with your new fd's i wouldnt even wanna void warranty. lol.
but if you must, then get a large muffler like xforce oval or something. dont get cannon lol

[black8thgen]

well i just meant the racing brands in general =D.

yeah uhm canon looks out of place sometimes on fds.. but whats the main reason a new muffler is gna void warranty?

[.k.]

lol, i wanna find an entire exhaust / get one custom made cos imo just a muffler is annoying cos sure maybe it gives u a little performance boost (not saying entire system gives u 11tybillionkwATW) but makes noise but is still kinda restricting (oem piping with a muffler on the end) - but then its contradictory cos i want entire system which will only give a little up in power (if any) and be loud and annoying...

reason why i wanna try varex muffler lol, highway = quiet so its not droney and yeh

[black8thgen]

varex does sound fun though.. haha. but with 200 dollars thats half way towards a set of lowered springs =D.

[markCivicVti]

I was going to get the varex.. But it can't be good for the engine to go from minimal backpressure to lots... The ecu would need to adjust...

[ej20i]

varex is illegal and its exp...not worth it

[hisoka]

well i just meant the racing brands in general =D.

yeah uhm canon looks out of place sometimes on fds.. but whats the main reason a new muffler is gna void warranty?

i dunno man~ i just assumed modifying your new car will kill the warranty ?

[black8thgen]

oh, idunno.. probably does.. esp since honda makes a living out of looking for reasons to destroy warranty...

soo lets ask ej.. have u got any comments on voiding warranty cz of ur twinloop? =D

[.k.]

try youtube the varex muffler mark, they go through all this crap about how even when butterfly valve is closed it doesnt create backpressure like ur conventional 'silencer' which u just throw over the end of your muffler..

ps - could definitely be wrong about htat.. maybe im thinking of something else but pretty sure they reckon it doesnt create backpressue - could be marketing trick tho haha

[hisoka]

lol nah the varex sends it through a longer path when the butterfly is closed.

a normal silence just stops all of the gasses coming out at once. thats in turbo cars. i dunno if this is all the same, but pretty sure it is

[FallenAngel]

oh, idunno.. probably does.. esp since honda makes a living out of looking for reasons to destroy warranty...

soo lets ask ej.. have u got any comments on voiding warranty cz of ur twinloop? =D

If you change something from OEM to aftermarket you void warranty.

Simple...

[black8thgen]

void warranty on the whole car or warranty on the parts u changed/

and what if u PAINT over the OEM calipers or rims? that gna void too?

[FallenAngel]

Void warranty on the part that you changed.

Painting should be ok but don't quote me on that one

[cracker]

system ftw worth the cash better sound less/none/ power loss --> neutral/minute gain of power

[xqwzit]

You don't lose power with just a muffler.
I have a magnaflow in my fd2 no difference compared to stock
If u guys just want to change the muffler just get any cheapo brand there's no point getting a 500 bucks one unless for a full system.
Full buddyclub cat back cost around 1k btw.

[black8thgen]

how much ur magnaflow cost ya?

and can any muffler shop just make a muffler sit a bit lower? cos atm mines starting to burn the paint off the bottom of my lip kit lol

[.k.]

they should be able to but to do so would involve: - re-doing pipework / hangers on your exhaust / etc etc so might b exxy

[black8thgen]

hmmmm, what a hassle =.=.. just gotta hope i get the right muffler then hey lol =/

[JOhnnyFD]

ditched the buddyclub idea.. went to westside mufflers and had a look around and asking for quotes so goin wif the xforce.. done this weekend

[black8thgen]

which xforce u taking? and tell us how it sits with ur kit =D. PICS! =].

can ya pm me price as well mate? cheers

[Stig]

the current civics have no power anyway, so theres no point worrying about "loosing" some lol

[JOhnnyFD]

will put pics up as soon as i put on my suspensions early nxt month

[FallenAngel]

the current civics have no power anyway, so theres no point worrying about "loosing" some lol

Agreed, we won't be losing anythning because we have none LOL

[black8thgen]

LOL. true that i guess.. btw johnny what sussy u going with?

[JOhnnyFD]

tanabe sustec pro NF (normal feel) not GP (grip feel)

want suspension that arent too stiff compared to cusco GTspecs, buddyclub n+ spec, or tein super streets... i had teins in mind b4 but too $$$ and worry about stiffness

[JOhnnyFD]

just fitted my x-force muffler.. looks bigger than i expected :eek:

[black8thgen]

lol, could ya take a pic please =D. wanna see how it clears the rear kit =/

how does it sound btw

[JOhnnyFD]

here it is.. just took these photos

X-Force MP02 muffler

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/JOhnnyFD1/R0010709_edit.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/JOhnnyFD1/R0010710.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo22/JOhnnyFD1/R0010711.jpg

fits nicely with the FD2R rear bumper

ohh and soundwise... it is quiet as to be honest... but when u rev it up, it goes abit loud but not as much compared to a cannon

[black8thgen]

damn that looks sweet!!!. fits perfectly with the bumper. hows the sound on it?

[JOhnnyFD]

the sound is not as loud as i expected it to be.. its like the same with the OEM muffler, only except is when u turn on the engine, then u hear the distinct muffler purring, once u drive u wont hear a thing, and when u rev it up.. u'll hear it but its not as loud compared to a cannon

[black8thgen]

Ahh i see, hmm thats alright i guess, canon's would look silly on an fd i reckon =/.. are ya happy with it tho mate?

[JOhnnyFD]

ye thumbsup :thumbsup:

it took less than an 1hr and half for west muffler to fit on.. and when i came in i saw lik 3 cars includin an integra being fitted

was just alittle taken back on how big the muffler is.. maybe its coz im use to the look of the OEM haha

but ye, the muffler is welded on and on the welded joints, gotta spray on some anti-rust coating just in case

[black8thgen]

ahh i see. i'll be spraying on some coating as well when i get mine done, probably gonna go for the MP01 twin tip muffler =D.

[JOhnnyFD]

niice.. post pics once uve got it done black8th

didnt think the MP01 would of fitted nicely on the FD2R rear thus went for the 02

[black8thgen]

yeaa i think the dual tip MP01 wouldn't fit into the nice gap the fd2r bumper has - the mp02 single tip fits very nicely. great look on ur fd mate =D.

[black8thgen]

btw has it got a deepish sound? orrr? =/

and whats the inlet size we need for our fds? is it 2.5"?

[JOhnnyFD]

MP02 has definitely got a "deeper" sound.. but not tat deep a sound which would attract the popo

i got on 2.5"

[FallenAngel]

Very nice johnny!! I love the CF rear wing!

The exhaust looks awesome too... its not as big as i thought it would be. How big is the tip? Is your piping 2.5"?

If i remember correctly the inlet size is 2"

[black8thgen]

ahh thats good then, but im gonna have to wait a couple weeks till i get it done - bloody exams lol. Soooo what inlet do we need for the fd piping? =/.. well johnny has the rest of his exhaust piping on stock i think, so 2.5" inlet shud be it?

[JOhnnyFD]

tats right... inlet in 2.5".. tip is lik around 3.5-4"

OEM inlet pipe is i think around 2-2.25".. but coz its being welded on, goes on the MP02 2.5" inlet

[black8thgen]

ahhh i see. thx for clearing up buddy.

[FallenAngel]

tats right... inlet in 2.5".. tip is lik around 3.5-4"

OEM inlet pipe is i think around 2-2.25".. but coz its being welded on, goes on the MP02 2.5" inlet

Yep that sounds about right..

[Wayne]

anyone tried to import a full set exhaust system from japan.. which for the FD2 K20A.. do it really fit into our Civic Sport K20Z? need modifications or plug and play? thanks..

[black8thgen]

i might consider getting a full custom exhaust system done up at canterbury lol. my dad got his sv8 done there with an xforce system, and his mate there said he could do me a full system including extractors for 900 installed. or i might just get the xforce muffler for 250 =D.

[howy]

i might consider getting a full custom exhaust system done up at canterbury lol. my dad got his sv8 done there with an xforce system, and his mate there said he could do me a full system including extractors for 900 installed. or i might just get the xforce muffler for 250 =D.

Where abouts in canterbury? got the name of the place? :)

[black8thgen]

Its called: Australia's Best Tyre Service - but obviously they do exhaust and everything lol.. huge warehouse and they do stock quite a bit - although i just rang and they dont have the xforce mp01 i want.. so i'll check back in a couple weeks lol


Address
Cnr Canterbury & Canarys Rds
Roselands
NSW, 2196
Australia

Contact Details

Ph:
(02) 9750 3533

=D

[JOhnnyFD]

lol... australia best tyres.. thats where i got my new yokohamas fitted and balanced

[black8thgen]

lol apparantly they do some good exhaust work too. or do u reckon wests mufflers is betteR?

[JOhnnyFD]

west mufflers dont have a huge workshop area compared to aussie best tyres.. but i do know that wests do great welding and custom pipes coz obviously they specialise in mufflers & catbacks.. cant say about aussie best tyres coz i only went there to get my tyres as the name suggests (e.g lik u dont go to westside mufflers for tyres haha)

[black8thgen]

lol yeah fair enough. at first i was pretty surprised they do some custom specialised piping - offered to do me 2" piping with extractors and a muffler of choice installed for 900 - reckon thats a fair good price?

[ekdez]

i'd spend a bit more and get a branded exhaust.
someitmes can also be better made.
also resell value is more.

[JOhnnyFD]

agree with dez

i would wait out for a branded full exhaust system then get a custom one, but each to his/her own.. becoz customs dont necessarily guarantee better performance or not all that better, whereas well-known branded ones do research into quality, performance through testing etc.

[black8thgen]

Ahh okay, fair enough. I'll probably just go for the muffler change for now - then wait for some branded catback or something to come out... btw how much do u reckon we'd be looking at for like a buddyclub catback or something?

btw found a j's racing full catback for our fds: from ozhonda trader JDMCONCEPT. Although its pretty damn pricey lol... and with a full catback like these, changing it to ur own muffler would kinda ruin it wouldnt it?

J'S RACING TITANIUM FX FULL CATBACK SYSTEM 60RS - CIVIC FD - WAS: $2195.00, NOW: $1795.00 PICK-UP
Weighing only 4.5kg to 5.9kg for each catback roughly. Race proven. save KGs!!
STATUS: IN STOCK NOW, READY FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY!

[dannybubu]

j's racing catback needs modifications to fit FD1...i already asked the guy

[black8thgen]

oh really. loll.. if catbacks are all going to be around the 1.5k+ mark... i think i'll just go custom at 900 inc installation + extractors... =D. Pretty confident that these guys can make em good quality

[dannybubu]

well everything is expensive now since the AUD is so low...well you got any proof that there will be power gains? no point putting in $900 just for noise and minimal power gain right?

[black8thgen]

yeah i get what u mean, but for a genuine one at like double the price... well i'll see how things go first, have a chat with the guy there my dad knows, he claims that it takes a couple hundred km for the new system to settle in, then u feel the power gains.

[markCivicVti]

lol.. After that long you'll forget what it felt like before... So you won't even realise you lost power. It's sad but true... Our fds are slow :-(

[JOhnnyFD]

Ahh okay, fair enough. I'll probably just go for the muffler change for now - then wait for some branded catback or something to come out... btw how much do u reckon we'd be looking at for like a buddyclub catback or something?

btw found a j's racing full catback for our fds: from ozhonda trader JDMCONCEPT. Although its pretty damn pricey lol... and with a full catback like these, changing it to ur own muffler would kinda ruin it wouldnt it?

J'S RACING TITANIUM FX FULL CATBACK SYSTEM 60RS - CIVIC FD - WAS: $2195.00, NOW: $1795.00 PICK-UP
Weighing only 4.5kg to 5.9kg for each catback roughly. Race proven. save KGs!!
STATUS: IN STOCK NOW, READY FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY!

buddyclub dont make catback system for FDs

J's u mention is for FD2R only

[black8thgen]

lol.. After that long you'll forget what it felt like before... So you won't even realise you lost power. It's sad but true... Our fds are slow :-(

Lost or gained power? =/

[JOhnnyFD]

u may or maynot get power or much power at all

[black8thgen]

Hmmm, looks like the way to go is just a muffler upgrade then hey? Unless somehow the guy at the store convinces me that the full system will be beneficial in regards to power gains - and its gonna take him some comprehensive convincing too lol...

[FallenAngel]

If you go a FULL exhaust system (ie. extractors and all) then you would have some increase in performance.. If you only go the catback and/or muffler only, there is NO power difference. And even with the power gains you won't feel that much of a difference...

[azn_ek]

it was tested with a cat back system on the civic sport, u gain sum hp startin from 6000rpm but the peak hp was nearly the same to stock due to the restriction of headers and intake.

[black8thgen]

lol, at 6000rpm.. how useful. hmm, guess there really isnt much point unless u get everything including a new intake and headers aye, guess i'll just go the muffler lol.

[azn_ek]

if u just want the look, then axel bac is enough, no point goin cat back if u want power unless u get headers with it. it was also mentioned that the stock rubber intake pipe already does the same thing as an aftermarket aluminium intake and the most useful mod is to get headers (optional catback) and a ECU flash tune.

[black8thgen]

Hmm, any exhaust shop can custom headers yes? headers + full exhaust (extractors and everything) would be best choice for power gains then? minus the ECU tune..

[ekdez]

are you actually going for big power gains in your car?

I/H/E will only ever give you 10kw's atw (if that) gain MAX... with a stock motor

tbh with you its a waste of money, unless you really desire and must have it.

if you really wanted to be quicker.. you'd be looking to get flywheel, clutch & final drive.. and i dont know if most of them are possible yet for fd..

[blasdf]

so it seems, im not much of a mechanic minded person sorry, a full cat back exhaust system(i take it no straight free flows happen here as CATs are compulsory?), extractors, header work?? and intake wont really do much to the AU FD2 seeing it uses a basic i-vtec engine with lower compression?

is it possible to just get a JDM type r engine and have someone fit it?

i find the civic sport I have not as slow as I thought it would be, sure not like previous vtecs I've owned, but there must be some potential in there?
or is that back to the windows vista on a pentium 1, you aint going no where with that one...

[azn_ek]

hav had ppl in other countries installing hi cams on the K20Z2 in a civic sport, and also replacing the stock manifold (designed for low - mid rpm torque) to the RBC manifold (similar to DC5r, EP3r and K20z3 manifolds) it'll giv the car a little bit more hi rpm power. but just replacing the catback wont do much becoz the headers is the most restricted part in the exhaust system. de-cat will also reduce lower rpm torque unless its done with an aftermarket headers.

tbh, our civic sport FD2 is not made for power, if it is, they would've put in a K20z1, K20z3 or even K20A... but no they chose the K20z2 which runs 12valves b4 vtec kicks in then fully opens the other 4 intake vavles on hi rpm...

[JOhnnyFD]

dude.. a FD can be made fast.. anything is possible, just need the know-how and $$$.. e.g. FD2R, mugenRR as inspiration

only reason i think the FD2 has a K20Z2 engine is coz of restrictions.. detuned engines into the AU market.

[azn_ek]

well, to me i bought the 09 civic sport for its chassis, strong and well designed, low centre of gravity, its just when i can afford the jdm FD2R 225hp k20a. coz not much aftermarket parts ar made for k20z2, tones around for R18a, kinda regretted y i didnt get a vti...

[JOhnnyFD]

just start saving up for the FD2R K20A engine :thumbsup: and mod around that.. i kinda remember someone selling that engine here a while ago.. it had a spoon cap on it

anywaz, back to exhausts..

[blasdf]

well, to me i bought the 09 civic sport for its chassis, strong and well designed, low centre of gravity, its just when i can afford the jdm FD2R 225hp k20a. coz not much aftermarket parts ar made for k20z2, tones around for R18a, kinda regretted y i didnt get a vti...

is the 09 chassis different to 07? i thought it was facelift and vehicle stability on all models?

you shouldn't regret the civic sport over the others. i find in standard factory form, no mods, it's much nicer, fog lamps, sunroof, leather interior that seems very nice compared to the others, and a dohc engine which may have some future mods done to it. i didn't hesitate to get a sport over a vti. sure it's not a type r, but i couldnt complain for the price.

sorry to go off the exhaust topic Johnny, I was really just interested to know if it is even possible to get some power out of this engine if you put money into it other than exhaust.

[FallenAngel]

Changing the internals and crap similar to the k20a is possible but really not worth the money... If u want power go turbo. Easiest option.

[Waternmo]

skunk2 has a catback system for the USDM civic, and apparently it'll fit onto our FD2 and the price is cheaper than most of the JDM systems too!!

[black8thgen]

megapower? heard its overly loud. not sure about any performance gains though.

[Waternmo]

mega power is acceptable with its 60mm piping, but yes it will be louder than other jdm options. performance wise it's the same or similar to any cat back, quieter exhausts mean more restricted with resonators, and i was told that without the headers, power will only be gained in high rpm, coz the exhaust manifold is more restrictive.

[blasdf]

so with one of these catbacks and headers you would get some gains at least, but perhaps only what 10-15hp atw?

[markCivicVti]

10-15 hp atw is MASSIVE... if any you might get 2-5 hp atw up high...

[blasdf]

man there must be something seriously throttling the performance inside the engine, and not just because it's a basic vtec. i would imagine any performance exhaust system and headers would include more. or does power atw on these vehicles work out much lower than at the engine, 15hp engine, 2hp wheels?

i'm relatively new to cars tuned here. would a complete free flow exhaust system without any CAT provide better HP gains? besides being illegal in Oz.

[Waternmo]

a complete de-cat hi flow system will create more hi rpm power but u'll lose too much low rpm torque for that little gain... had one in my previous car, noticeable gain up hi but its a pain when drivin at low speed... and i doubt there will be 10hp gained with a cat back exhaust... but u do feel the engine revving smoother

[black8thgen]

anyone got some good suggestions for a muffler on our civics? anything besides xforce - just want to see what else you guys are using and how they are for sound, dont want anything too loud, but would like a deepish sound of course lol.

[hisoka]

js racing titanium force

[Waternmo]

im quite interested in the J's 304R which is comin out on the 8th of april

[black8thgen]

wow, how pricey is it gonna be?... lol

[Waternmo]

i think jdmconcept is doin it for 7XXaud? but its an axel back... J's products are worth the money tho, J's is over spoon in HK... and i think the price is acceptable seeing mugen axel back in stainless steel is around 1.5k =_="

[black8thgen]

single tip canon-ish probably yea? like the 60rs for the fd2r? hmm, im looking for a twintip look =[. won't be getting a jap brand twin tip axel back tho i guess

[Waternmo]

i think Remus make good twin tip mufflers and they produce a unique exhaust note !!

[black8thgen]

oh yeah, totally forgot about remus, just need to find out where to get one though lol =/

[cracker]

sum1 has a remus on the forum i thinkkk

[markCivicVti]

Yeah think it was shimian.

[dannybubu]

i got my kakimoto regu06r installed on my fd...it's not too loud to attract cop attention but it's still loud enough to hear...

[black8thgen]

how much? just an axel back?

[dannybubu]

paid 1.8k inc shipping from japan...it's a cat back...still very expensive but i wanted it...lol...oh well...easy to DIY as well..

[ekdez]

oh yeah, totally forgot about remus, just need to find out where to get one though lol =/

good luck affording it.
it'd be like 2500 for the catback with exchange rates as they are now..

i want the fubijistu legalis-r its a twin tip. hot!

[black8thgen]

=O. and how much is that lol. Well im just looking for a muffler only, not interested in the catback as of yet.. too expensive lol

[Waternmo]

yea, im gettin an axel back too, and maybe get a straight pipe made in stainless steel later on if im getting exhaust manifold, cheaper than gettin a whole catback system.

[WookieCivic]

Hey guys,

Been reading some of your post and i'm getting a little discouraged in upgrading my Civic Sport.

Initially my plan was to uggrade intake > exaust > headers, or all at the same time, but from reading the posts, if I'm only going to gain about 5 or 10hp is there a point? What sort of cost am i looking at to get it all done, can someone point out some sites i can do research on? I keep getting Yankie sites with their mods and bits.



I/H/E will only ever give you 10kw's atw (if that) gain MAX... with a stock motor

tbh with you its a waste of money, unless you really desire and must have it.

if you really wanted to be quicker.. you'd be looking to get flywheel, clutch & final drive.. and i dont know if most of them are possible yet for fd..

Re the flywheel etc, what sort of gains at best would an FD2 be looking at? (purely curious as i have a sports auto). :p

[ekdez]

Sorry for short answer but i'm on my phone. Basically ihe is all sound, but don't get me wrong there are gain's to be made in those region's, with the correct setup and tune.. But for a manual car, if you upgrade clutch etc, then your shift time's and such will be reduced since there is less lag and hence reach higher speed's faster.. But doing the normal ihe upgrade is what normal people do anyhow, unless your uber serious about racing your car.. Like i know i'll be doing my zorst cos i only want cosmetic upgrade's for my fd.

[FallenAngel]

Hey guys,

Been reading some of your post and i'm getting a little discouraged in upgrading my Civic Sport.

Initially my plan was to uggrade intake > exaust > headers, or all at the same time, but from reading the posts, if I'm only going to gain about 5 or 10hp is there a point? What sort of cost am i looking at to get it all done, can someone point out some sites i can do research on? I keep getting Yankie sites with their mods and bits.



Re the flywheel etc, what sort of gains at best would an FD2 be looking at? (purely curious as i have a sports auto). :p

Well if you get exhaust, intake and headers you'll be looking at around 10kw+ ATW and tahts pretty decent...

Exhaust depends if u want a catback which would put u back a few hundred or full exhaust which would cost anything from about a grand upwards. Keep in mind that a catback would not give you any performance gain (its so little its basically nothing) only sound whilst the full exhaust would.

Intake would be around $400-$500 for a branded one or you could grab a generic one off ebay for like $100-$200.

Headers there arn't many that are out yet although there are a few. That'll probably cost about $300-$400 (Not sure of the current pricing).

If you have a auto car, i wouldn't recommend upgrading your flywheel as it wouldn't be needed as much.

Check the trader section here at Ozhonda as they have quite a few products for the FD1/2. JDMYard is great for a start.

[WookieCivic]

Cool, much appreciated info guys!

I know what you mean about not being many headers out there yet, however i did stumble on some threads from US honda forums. They have diff models there, so probably not relevant. None of their stuff would apply here, would it?

Hmmm, am considering at throwing approx $2k for the I/H/E upgrades. Dunno. $2k for a 10kw gain. Hmmm. Would i need to make any changes to the ECU? For that sort of money, wouldn't going turbo be more worthwhile?

If i do any mods to the exhaust, i'll get a dyno of before and after and post it up here.

[FallenAngel]

Turbo would cost approx $6k possibly more because of the exchange rate atm i'd assume...

You'll need a turbo back exhaust which would be just under a grand for a custom one, intercooler (few hundred), piping, new ECU (about a grand for a standalone not piggie back), the actual turbo (price varies depending on which one) and there is definately much more stuff in there but i can't think of them atm. (currently at work =[) There is also labour to be considered which could range significantly.

If you want to spend 2k, I would put the money in getting a intake first, then coilovers, then some decent rims and tyres (unless you like the current wheels thats up to you).
Thats just IMO but the choice is up to you

[ekdez]

+ J'S RACING TITANIUM FX FULL CATBACK SYSTEM 60RS - CIVIC FD - WAS: $2195.00, NOW: $1795.00 PICK-UP

i'd so buy that if it was 300 dollars cheaper =]

[JOhnnyFD]

tat price was there for ages.. i remember when i was first lookin into a catback system.. wait abit longer and it'll go down more haha

wondering y no1 is gettin it.. prob coz apparently its fitted for FD2R only.. not for FD1 or FD2 i think.. correct me if im wrong

[xqwzit]

the js cat back will fit FD2.
a white fd2 in perth have it , he use to post here around a year back.

[WookieCivic]

Just been shopping around for CAI's, got a reply from Top Racing Group in HK.



Anyway, if you are looking for Cold Air Induction products, we can recommend the following:

Gruppe M carbon cold air induction kit - which we retail for HK$9,500
in Australian dollars, divide it by 5.5.

Or the MUGEN FRP cold air induction kit - HK$4800, again please divide it by 5.5 for Australian dollars.



Seems a bit steep to me. What's the difference betreen the two (besides about $1000)? Any place that would have better pricing? Thoughts?

[JOhnnyFD]

dudeee... move this to a FD intake thread.. not here

do a search b4 posting

[Waternmo]

both of them wont fit our FD2, coz the FD2R hasnt got MAF sensor on the airbox.

[WookieCivic]

dudeee... move this to a FD intake thread.. not here

do a search b4 posting

duuuude... sorry, my bad.

Just following on from advice from FallenAngel in a post on the previous page. Thought it would still be relevant in the exhaust section.

[Waternmo]

question bout axel back mufflers for my civic sport FD2, does anyone know if an axel back made for FD1 1.8L can fit our FD2 2.0L? on the mugen website it shows that the axel back for both 1.8 and 2.0 have the same model number! but non of the shops can confirm this -_-

[black8thgen]

pretty sure if its just an axel back it should be all sweet?

btw: getting an xforce MP01 muffler installed on my fd2 tmrw =D.

[Waternmo]

wow, how much is it? is it bolt on or weld on? looking forward in seeing it!!!

[black8thgen]

280 all up at westside, think prices went up a lil due to the crisis but yea..

weld on for our civics, just a universal muffler. will get pics tmrw afternoon probably =]

[FallenAngel]

Only the muffler?

[black8thgen]

yea.. is it a bit much?

[Wayne]

i have a question here.. im planning to install twin cannon on my FD2.. left and right i mean.. not two together.. haha.. ask from shop.. they said the left side need a shorter cannon.. while the right 1 can use any universal type.. any1 did this before? and where to find SHORT type cannon muffler? thanks..

[xqwzit]

its a bit much for just muffler, i got my magnaflow fitted for that price

[black8thgen]

just the muffler for u?

the muffler by itself is 200 at cheapest, and i think like for a weld job its around 50-70 bucks i guess, didn't think it was expensive =[.

[black8thgen]

just got it done, would like it to be a little bit louder, but pretty happy with it =D.

[markCivicVti]

picsorban

[black8thgen]

later this arvo after i give her a wash =D

[Waternmo]

nice! is it fairly stock looking? would like to hear it too! anywayz, just ordered full brace set from CiDEP, should arrive in 1 mth or 2 with my mate's container. still deciding tho, shud i get the strut bar + F & R sway bar or strut bar + lower chassis brace set...

[black8thgen]

CiDEP? whats that =/.

hmm i havn't got a clue about reinforcement bars and such so cant help you =[.

and yeah its stock looking, which is what i wanted, it could be a bit louder, but there is enough sound and i quite like it =D.

just want the HKS panel filter next for more airflow hehe.

[black8thgen]

im now very tempted to get the custom full exhaust system done lol =/... but i dont get how some systems can produce more power than others? Like what do they do to the piping that makes the difference? Is it the material of the pipes orrr? =/.

[JOhnnyFD]

to get more power, the upgrades to do would be on the intake, headers, exhaust and cams... getting a new catback doesnt necessarily give in more power

[black8thgen]

yeah im not too hell bent on power right now, just want a little bit more sound, tbh i noticed more responsiveness with the muffler installed, feels better.

the guy at westside said theres "two mufflers" practically, so the sound is very restricted, so i'll prob change the "second muffler" to a different pipe with more air flow and sound..

[Waternmo]

replace the second muffler and resonators with straight pipes, it'll be louder and less restriction to airflow!

[FallenAngel]

And be a complete defect...

[black8thgen]

lol.. i think im just gonna replace the second muffler, im pretty sure it won't even get as loud as most canons out there..

[JOhnnyFD]

wait.. u replaced the OEM muffler with the MP01 and u now wanna replace tat??

[markCivicVti]

No... There are two mufflers..

[black8thgen]

yeah theres two mufflers essentially.. so theres another restrictive piece of piping behind the "muffler".. i can see this discussion getting very very confusing LOL.

[Waternmo]

i havnt really looked under my car yet, but i assume its like most car, the exhaust system shud hav 1 to 2 cats, 2 mufflers and resonators to low down the emission and noise level. those are the areas where air flow is most restricted.

[black8thgen]

yeah, thats how it is, just needa get rid of the second muffler and it should be enough for sound, dont want something that will attract coppers =D

[d@vid]

I wanna get muffler for my FD2 but not sure what type to go for.....and i am very confuse now after reading 19pages

[black8thgen]

hahaha. what you tossing up between though? if you want sound.. make sure u get the shop to replace the second muffler with a "sportier" pipe as well, or the new muffler wont make a huge difference except on back-off (which on my xforce sounds very nice)

[d@vid]

I want sound but not too loud cause i use to have a Cannon on my old car, drives every one crazy lol

so i do want sound but not too loud

[black8thgen]

oh.. hahaha. well just get like.. anything but a canon then i guess lol. like a twintip muffler. xforce is prety good, i'd recommend it, there is some sound, but its not really loud, but if you replace the second "muffler" with something better then you'll prob get the right balance of sound

[Waternmo]

if u just replace the rear muffler with a cannon, it wouldnt be as loud as any older cars because of the number of mufflers and resonators in between engine and the muffler. but a very good design for low noise is the mugen style twin loop design, the exhaust gas passes through the muffler twice to lower the noise. i had it in my mazda 3, i had a straight thru stainless steel mandrel bend cat back (no cat, no resonators) and a twin loop muffler for street use which i find the noise is still exceptable and it does give a noticeable difference is low end torque comparing to my track set up (switching to cannon for track)

[JOhnnyFD]

Video Update

Honda Civic FD X-Force MP02 Muffler [Pt1.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6bnX-2JtVw)
First test run, it just rained and so the airs cold and giving the engine a warm up *notice the airplane noise at the end lol

Honda Civic FD X-Force MP02 Muffler [Pt 2.] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heGWQFeJNtU)
Second test run, after the initial warm up *notice other cars diving past at the end lol racer neighbourhood

[black8thgen]

yea i was thinking of doing this for mine, but since we got mufflers with same barrel.. guess theres no point =D.

are you happy with the sound? cos i'm definately getting the second "muffler" pipe thingy whatever it is replaced, not loud enough yet =[

[JOhnnyFD]

if u want loud, get a cannon.. the mp02 x-force is fine with me

[black8thgen]

not that loud, but more noticeable while driving

[FallenAngel]

Sounds pretty good Johnny, although it sounds alot more deeper and quite louder than mine even though i have a cannon at the tip. I might do mine later when i get home also..

So the auto has the 4k rev limiter at idle eh?

[JOhnnyFD]

cheers buddy.. ye, once ur in the car, u wont hear the deep note unless u turn down the windows... when u rev it hard from say 2.5k to 4k or from 4.5k all the way up, u'll definitely hear it

yep, does idle around 4k lol

[d@vid]

yea i was thinking of doing this for mine, but since we got mufflers with same barrel.. guess theres no point =D.

are you happy with the sound? cos i'm definately getting the second "muffler" pipe thingy whatever it is replaced, not loud enough yet =[

Question, can we just taken that part out by our self or we need to go shop to get it done. Also is there any chance you guys can post a pic so i know what i am looking for.

Thanks

[black8thgen]

cheers buddy.. ye, once ur in the car, u wont hear the deep note unless u turn down the windows... when u rev it hard from say 2.5k to 4k or from 4.5k all the way up, u'll definitely hear it

yep, does idle around 4k lol

yeah, i found in the car, it sounds damn nice when revving up, im very happy with it, although in neutral and from outside for some reason the engine overpowers it so idunno.

oh, i found the rev limiter is at 5k for me =/... maybe its cos i have a sport?

and to d@vid: i think a weld job needs to be done, so a shop would be best, and yeah if i can, when i get mine done this weekend, ill get a picture of the stock one and where it is and how mine was replaced, then ill post up pics =D.

fallen: looking forward to hearing yours =]

[black8thgen]

btw decided to do a video of my xforce mp01, was already warmed up as i had gone for a drive beforehand: u can tell the engine overpowers the muffler noise at times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-hcuEOzOAQ

[d@vid]

Sound awesome man, thats what i am looking for, not too loud but more noticeable

[FallenAngel]

Sounds very smooth and yea the engine sound does override the exhaust at times.

[black8thgen]

cheers. yeah the quality of the xforce is awesome. very clean sound and smooth flow.

yeah thats why im just looking for a little more boost to sound (which is why im looking to replace the second muffler thingy) hopefully it wont be too loud

[ekdez]

electric sound for the win! love it

[FallenAngel]

Supercharger mmm...

[JOhnnyFD]

btw decided to do a video of my xforce mp01, was already warmed up as i had gone for a drive beforehand: u can tell the engine overpowers the muffler noise at times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-hcuEOzOAQ

nice.. got tat x-force tone

[ekdez]

hey guys

anyone know if an aftermarket fd2r cat back will fit the fd1 civic 2008?

if modifications are needed what are they?

for example:
is the bpipe of a fd2r longer then the fd1?
would i need to cut my headers short to accommodate the longer b pipe?
are the floor plans the same?

i dunno just chucking gout random questions..

if anyone knows the answer it would be much appreciated! :)

[JOhnnyFD]

+ J'S RACING TITANIUM FX FULL CATBACK SYSTEM 60RS - CIVIC FD - WAS $1795.00, SALE $1195.00 PICK-UP = SAVE $600.00
Weighing only 4.5kg to 5.9kg for each catback roughly. Race proven. save KGs!!
This exhaust is to fit fd2r, it has been fitted before to local civic before, mods must be made on your catalytic converter
STATUS: IN STOCK NOW, READY FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY!
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g219/jdmconcept-com-au/js%20racing/jsracingcatcbackfd260rsp.jpg

i would so wanna get this, but dont drive fd2r lol... but still, would hav no idea on wat mods would be required for it to fit FD1/2.. wouldnt really want to chop this up though to make it fit.. its too beautiful to chop hehe

[iversonruls]

hey guys

anyone know if an aftermarket fd2r cat back will fit the fd1 civic 2008?

if modifications are needed what are they?

for example:
is the bpipe of a fd2r longer then the fd1?
would i need to cut my headers short to accommodate the longer b pipe?
are the floor plans the same?

i dunno just chucking gout random questions..

if anyone knows the answer it would be much appreciated! :)
i think B-pipe for fd2 is actually shorter than fd1.. so u will need to make an extension to b-pipe for the fd2 exhaust

[black8thgen]

WOWW 600 dollar saving.. that is very tempting haha.. it says mods on catalytic converter.. but yeah im guessing its gonna have to be choppd in parts lol.

[ekdez]

thats the one im in the process of purchasing lol

the j's exhaust =]

well i want it.. just wanna know if it fits the fd1 floor plan.

[Waternmo]

a mate of mine test fitted a FD2R exhaust on his FD1, only problem he had was the muffler location, the FD2R muffler sits a bit more to the right comparin to the FD1... that was the only thing he came up with... and it was fixed by gettin a FD2R rear bumper... hope it helps

[.k.]

wow if fd2 zorst fitted on fd1 w/ only muffler location being problem that'd be awsome..

throwing this out there not an exhaust Q rly but - does any1 know of or seen fd1 w/ aftermarket headers then a cat put into their exhause somewhere else cos stock isnt the cat in the headers?

[markCivicVti]

wow if fd2 zorst fitted on fd1 w/ only muffler location being problem that'd be awsome..

throwing this out there not an exhaust Q rly but - does any1 know of or seen fd1 w/ aftermarket headers then a cat put into their exhause somewhere else cos stock isnt the cat in the headers?

There's a WeaponR aftermarket header