s2000 wheel offset & tyre help!

[poko_pano]

Sorry but people need to learn how to calculate offset as well, half the sizes people ask are almost the same thing.. can't be spoon fed everything man. Just look through the thread and you will get a general idea if what kind of sizes the car can handle I mean the thread is 20 pages long...


The front guards can handle anything under a 8" wide with 40 and higher offset, that's with a roll.

The rear guards can handle anything under a 9" with 45 offset and just a roll.

That's with full sized tyre and natural camber.

Obviously you can go wider but you will need to sacrafice tyre size.

At the end of the day, like I've said many times you ALWAYS need to roll your guards, once you lower your car even on stock wheels there's a chance of them getting clipped and demolishing your guard.

Best way to find out if a rim will fit is buy it, test fit it then you will know what tyre size you can run and how much work you need done too your guards. Diffrent tyres have diffrent sidewall thicknesses so depending on the tyre you get it will change your fitment as well. There's way too many things to factor and it's best to get out there try and learn.

thanks heaps!

i understand...

one last question
what if the offset is slightly lower than those you have recommended? say rears are 9 inch wide with a +40 offset only?

should i stay clear?

[AusS2000]

They will slightly not fit. ;)

[poko_pano]

^^ HAHAHAH lol

would it be alot of work?
or can rolled fenders and camber do?

[AusS2000]

I can't believe you say 'I understand' then ask another question which clearly shows you don't.

[AusS2000]

Sorry I can't help. I bought wheels that fit.

[poko_pano]

ok thanks

[ludecrs]

thanks heaps!

i understand...

one last question
what if the offset is slightly lower than those you have recommended? say rears are 9 inch wide with a +40 offset only?

should i stay clear?

Below is a quote from the page prior.. I've highlighted the important stuffs :p


As said above.
18x8 +35 was a bit of a hack to fit, so I suggest about an 18x8 +40F. The rear was a bit soft in comparison, so I recommend an 18x9 +40 rear - or there abouts - if you want a lowered, semi stanced daily driver capable S2K which offers very little inconvenience that width and offset are spot on IMO.

[poko_pano]

yes. thanks guys
sorry for being a pain
really new to cars and the limited offsets to suit the s2000 doesnt help

THANKS AGAIN

[vyets]

really new to cars and the limited offsets to suit the s2000 doesnt help

THANKS AGAIN

every car has its own offset, some run lower some run higher.

[le do]

hey guys probably gonna purchase some bbs lm in 17x8 +40 17x9 +40
from reading through the thread seems that these should fit with a roll and some camber (shouldnt be a big task right? lol) can someone confirm this so i can go ahead and purchase. just asking to make sure thanks in advance

[AusS2000]

Maybe you should try reading the thread.

And somebody close this thread already. It's the same requests for hand holding over and over.

[s2krazie]

Rims with less than +45 offset are going to need work, the lower you go the more problems/work you'll need to do.
Go +50 if you don't understand the concept of offsets for s2ks, save yourself from scratching your head and asking the same question as almost every other person has in this thread.

A little reading can get you more than asking without trying to find out yourself first. Shortcuts ain't always good. -_-

Depending on the ride height, your 17x8s/9s +40 they'll fit with the camber/rolls. Still not too sure about it, ask for a test fitment on your car if you're buying second hand.

[le do]

Rims with less than +45 offset are going to need work, the lower you go the more problems/work you'll need to do.
Go +50 if you don't understand the concept of offsets for s2ks, save yourself from scratching your head and asking the same question as almost every other person has in this thread.

A little reading can get you more than asking without trying to find out yourself first. Shortcuts ain't always good. -_-

Depending on the ride height, your 17x8s/9s +40 they'll fit with the camber/rolls. Still not too sure about it, ask for a test fitment on your car if you're buying second hand.

cheers i have read through the thread and ppl saying it will fit with roll and camber. yeah i am relatively new to the s2k's offset but im getting there and i realised the lower the offset the more work. only reason i asked is because someone told me that it is possible that the "s2000 caliper may stick out past the bolt up face of the hub and can jam up on the back of the caliper"?? kind of put me off even after reading through the thread. dw about it im sure i can make it work ;)

[vyets]

cheers i have read through the thread and ppl saying it will fit with roll and camber. yeah i am relatively new to the s2k's offset but im getting there and i realised the lower the offset the more work. only reason i asked is because someone told me that it is possible that the "s2000 caliper may stick out past the bolt up face of the hub and can jam up on the back of the caliper"?? kind of put me off even after reading through the thread. dw about it im sure i can make it work ;)

no that's not going to happen and yes it will clear with just roll + relocate bumper tab, with natural camber.

[le do]

no that's not going to happen and yes it will clear with just roll + relocate bumper tab, with natural camber.
thanks for the help and confirmation, just the answer i needed

[poko_pano]

hi all

just purchased a set of 17x8 +45 (f) and 17x9 +50 (r).

Can someone recommend me some tires sizes as im thinking of buying of tirerack.com.
thinking of Hankook Ventus V12's

i am lowered on king springs atm and looking at fitting coilovers soon but wont be going too low.

just want some ppl recommendations as i'd like to see if i can get tires WITHOUT needing to roll guards (will do it though if needed), dont really want to relocate the tabs though


thanks heaps

[ludecrs]

225/40/17
255/35/17

[poko_pano]

^^ thanks ludecrs

will those sizes need rolling? if not then im going online to buy tires now then :)

ur a champ and ur car is an inspiration for mine :D

[poko_pano]

tried to find those sizes but struggling?
doesnt seem to be many choices around
:(

[9large]

These sizes are a closer match to the stock rolling diameter and wont put your speedo so out-of-whack:

215/45R17 or 225/45R17
245/40R17 or 255/40R17

[9large]

Just note, depending on your rim width and offset, you may still need to modify your fenders.

[vyets]

run 215's up the front and you won't need to roll however there's still a chance you can clip your guard and bend it if your not careful.
rears can run 255's or 245's upto you.

[dlai5552]

Buy Dunlop Direzza Star Specs.
They have that sizing for you wheels.

[vyets]

star specs have thick sidewalls you will have to go thinner on the fronts if you don't want to roll
also a rear roll is pretty much usless if you don't relocate bumper tab.

[will13]

if anyone is interested in some 17x8 mugen MF10's, +55, i have some for sale :)

[jrstyles]

Hello guys theres 2 sets of rpf1's im interested in,
the first set is: 17x9+45 (F&R)
second set is: 17x8+35(F) 17x8.5 +40(R)
Which would be a better fitment? cheers!

[timtam]

17x9 +45 is a very nice fitment. i would go with that.
it also sticks out more than the second set.
a little modification would be required to fit e.g rolled guards, bumper tab relocated, neg camber.

17x9 +45 is a concave face. i think looks nicer than the normal ones but wont clear brake caliper upgrades such as spoon.
not sure what the face of second set is.

[dlai5552]

If your plan is to get spoon calipers, get the second set. But if it is all for looks, buy the first set. The second set won't look as good as both are convex.
But that's my person opinion, if you like convex go for it.

The fitment will be very similar, the 1st set will stick out approx. 3mm and 1mm more on front and rear respectively then 2nd set.

[DJDOC]

Maybe i brought this thread back from dead....

i was wondering what would be the most aggressive offset i could go if i want 17x9 all around?

thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers

DJ

[dlai5552]

^^^ As low in offset as you want. People run 17x9 +22 te37 which is quite nice. All depends on how much work you willing to put into your fenders, tyre size, camber etc.
I know you ask for 9" but here's a reference on how crazy you can with 9.5" +20 (+35 with 15 mm spacer)

http://dougboy.smugmug.com/Automotive/Dans-S2000/i-ZHc8gHG/0/XL/IMG4666-XL.jpg

[DJDOC]

WOW that's aggressive!!!! I recently purchased S2k and i have spare sets of 17x9 with 20+ offset. I wanted to run 255 for track use. what sort of work should i do?
or would it be easier to sell the set and buy another set?

any advice would be appreciated

Cheers

[vyets]

if you want to run 255's with a +20 either get bolt on guards, or cut and weld guards.

[DJDOC]

That's to the front I assume? How about the rear?

Thanks :)

[vyets]

same all round.

guards will need to be extended about aprox 20 - 25mm to clear

[mattatnoosa]

On the subject, I bought some Mugen MF10's, was wondering, are these: http://www.lugshack.com/Black_McGard_Lug_kit_wheel_locks_12_x_1_5_p/65557bk.htm sutible for the car / wheels?

[vyets]

yes honda is M12 x 1.5 they will fit

[mattatnoosa]

Nice!, yea little dissapointed the MF10's aren't that aggressive, but oh well... 17" by 7.5" +52 front and 17" by 8.5" +59 rear...

[DJDOC]

Thanks vyets :)

[Vicks]

Nice!, yea little dissapointed the MF10's aren't that aggressive, but oh well... 17" by 7.5" +52 front and 17" by 8.5" +59 rear...

Good pick up, I assume you bought the set I was going to buy. You beat me to it.

[mattatnoosa]

Good pick up, I assume you bought the set I was going to buy. You beat me to it.

Haha, yea ones on eBay, shame they don't come in 18's

[butterfingers]

I just copy pasted this off S2ki in the hope it will help. I intend to do up a few stickies in the S2000 forum for any future reference, but here is a guide to start with.


Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.

Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.

For the front:
205 tires: +43 offset minimum (6.5” to 7.5” wide wheel)
215 tires: +48 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
225 tires: +53 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
235 tires: +58 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +63 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)

For the rear:
235 tires: +40 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +45 offset minimum (7.5” to 9.0” wide wheel)
255 tires: +50 offset minimum (8.0” to 9.5” wide wheel)
265 tires: +55 offset minimum (8.5” to 9.5” wide wheel)
275 tires: +60 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)
285 tires: +65 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)

The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.

Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can’t stuff a 275 on a 7” wide wheel, and you wouldn’t want to use a 9” wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.

OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:

Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire

and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels (including MY06) are as follows:

Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire

17x9 +40 on 235 profile tyres for rears should work then right?

[jooboo]

17x9 +40 on 235 profile tyres for rears should work then right?



nah bro too aggressive lol

[pboi]

lol.. do 245/40 to keep the same rolling diameter =)

[gerzzzzz]

one of my customer runs 17x8+45 and 17x9+45 rpf1 looks really good.
and now we have black rpf1 in stock too.

[butterfingers]

nah bro too aggressive lol
Guards rolled, slight neg camber

[dlai5552]

Guards rolled, slight neg camber

Pretty sure he was joking.

[black8thgen]

havent seen anyone go 17x8 +30.. soo i'm gonna ask:

17x8 +30 up front with 235 or 245
17x9 +35 rears with 245 tyres

i suspect for the rears i'll need at least -2.5 camber and a roll and relocation of the tab, but would i require a bit of a fender pull/flare?

and with the fronts from what i've read (am probably wrong though) im thinking i'd just need some camber and a roll.

if anyone has used this setup or know if it'll fit without huge fender work any help would be appreciated =]

[jooboo]

i did 18x10 +26 245/40 with a roll and pull and relocate...
18x10 +45 with like 255 no worries too
18x9 +26 up front i think it was 235...that worked fine until i went up a gutter wrong...flared my fenders for me lol

you can fit pretty much anything you want within reason...just depends on tyre and how u plan to drive.

[(Ryanswhites2k)]

I've got 19's and I wanna put 19x 9.5 on the rear but the only offset I can get is 25. I've lowered it an inch and I'm happy to run with a little stretch. What do u think jooboo could I get this to work

[boodgy]

Hi guys bumping up an old but awesome thread!

I'm getting new wheels and will be running 17x9+38 on the rears. What tires do you guys think I can run without too much stretch, rolled guards and relocated bumper tab.

[JDM-Panda]

Hi guys bumping up an old but awesome thread!

I'm getting new wheels and will be running 17x9+38 on the rears. What tires do you guys think I can run without too much stretch, rolled guards and relocated bumper tab.

Can easily run 245/40.

[boodgy]

Thanks mate! Appreciate your help.

[drsilliez]

was just wondering what are good tyres to get for the s2000? just daily driving tyres. something that would last for at least a couple of years and good for the wet/rainy weather. thats all. no tracking/burnouts/drifts lol...

[drsilliez]

also how much would they roughly cost? dont wanna be ripped off now.....

[phuongvu88]

what size are you afteR?

[drsilliez]

well my current tyres are:

Front
-Kumho ecsta spt ku31 - 215/R18 89Y XL

Rear
-Kumho ecsta spt ku31 -235/R18 95y XL


Thats what it says on the tyres...

[daevilone]

what size wheels you got? IMO try for wider tyres! But depends on your sizes/offset/low etc

I've currently got a set of Nitto NT555 in 255/40/17 for daily duties. They are great!. Decent grip, loads of tread depth so should get decent life out of them. Fine in the rain. $130 a tyre. Can recommend.

[boodgy]

well my current tyres are:

Front
-Kumho ecsta spt ku31 - 215/R18 89Y XL

Rear
-Kumho ecsta spt ku31 -235/R18 95y XL


Thats what it says on the tyres...

Hey mate, how are the ku31's? Would you recommend them? I was planning on getting a set when my wheels arrive.

[charlie15]

bumping a really old thread.

Bought 17x8 +32 and 17x9 +37 for my s.

I really don't want to pull the guards..... can i get away with running a 215/45 front and 245/40 rear? with a roll and some negative camber?

any help much appreciated, been receiving mixed responses so I am still unsure.

[DJDOC]

I have 17 x 8 + 45 on 225/45/17 square set up on my S. Here are the condition of my S.

1. Both F&R fenders are rolled.
2. Fronts don't have any more room with -2.25 camber,
3. Rear would have approx 5-10mm room with -1.5 camber.
4. Car is lower than stock. I have Tein Mono Flex and have recommended height setting from Tein

Given the conditions, you will have issues with both front & rear unless you put crazy amount of -ve camber.

Good luck with fitting.