s2000 wheel offset & tyre help!

[mrs2k]

Go through thread for offset help!

[ludecrs]

Way too aggressive IMO.

8" on the front and only +35 will look crap. I run 8" front +40 and it still doesn't look right front on.

Few others may say otherwise....

[AusS2000]

I run 18x8+55 on the front and 18x9+60 at the rear. They are a perfect fit.

And no more cookies thanks. I'm putting on weight.

[ludecrs]

They fit perfect because you're allowing for 20mm more than the OP 8" +35mm by having +55mm

[AusS2000]

Umm, yep. That was kinda my point.

[mrs2k]

ok so what sort of offset and size should i be looking at to achieve the aggressive look but not over the top :)

[.::F[L]Y::.]

I run 18x8+55 on the front and 18x9+60 at the rear. They are a perfect fit.

And no more cookies thanks. I'm putting on weight.

got a picture of the fitment Aus? im considering selling up my current wheels for something which will allow me to run wider tyres

[AusS2000]

http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/work/work2.jpg

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Aus- with that setup, can you go lower without any scrubbage issues?

'dish' is determined by offset isnt it?

[AusS2000]

Not sure. Don't want to go any lower myself.

Dish is determined by offset and wheel design.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

how much 'dish' do you get on the rear with your specs?

[AusS2000]

You can see by the design of the wheels hat the spokes sweep back into the wheel. I guess there's about 50mm on lip.

[AusS2000]

But I'm not into lip. My fave wheels have none at all:

http://www.kgworks.co.jp/image/ZEIT-02-1.jpg

[ludecrs]

ok so what sort of offset and size should i be looking at to achieve the aggressive look but not over the top :)

Wheel offsets can vary quite substancially.

The width of the rim, the offset of the rim, the type of tyre and the camber you wish to run will determine your offset.

If you take a look at IIGQ4U on s2ki, his wheels are 17x8+20 up front and 17x9+28 in the rear. He runs a shit load of camber as you can see in the first photo. But the problem with aggressive offsets is shown in the 2nd photo....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/Intelligentsia/Professional%20Shoot/93949569gQd2zjLSIMG_5091copy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/Intelligentsia/Professional%20Shoot/93949905aoP2d9I2IMG_5250copy.jpg

[ludecrs]

I just copy pasted this off S2ki in the hope it will help. I intend to do up a few stickies in the S2000 forum for any future reference, but here is a guide to start with.


Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.

Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.

For the front:
205 tires: +43 offset minimum (6.5” to 7.5” wide wheel)
215 tires: +48 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
225 tires: +53 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
235 tires: +58 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +63 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)

For the rear:
235 tires: +40 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +45 offset minimum (7.5” to 9.0” wide wheel)
255 tires: +50 offset minimum (8.0” to 9.5” wide wheel)
265 tires: +55 offset minimum (8.5” to 9.5” wide wheel)
275 tires: +60 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)
285 tires: +65 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)

The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.

Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can’t stuff a 275 on a 7” wide wheel, and you wouldn’t want to use a 9” wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.

OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:

Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire

and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels (including MY06) are as follows:

Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ do those tyre calculators take into consideration lowering the car about 2.5"-3.0" ??

[ludecrs]

It doesn't say in the thread, so I can only presume not.

3" is a lot of droppage.

Your car would sit slightly lower than mine I believe. Surely you're not dropped 3"?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

im on 18s and my rear tyres are slightly tucked :)

[ludecrs]

pics or ban. :D

[.::F[L]Y::.]

here you go....

just in case anyone is wondering, current wheel specs are as follows;

front: 18x7.5 +40 215/35/18
rear: 18x8.5 +40 235/40/18

ideally id like to be running 245 but due to the offset with the 235/40 it sits pretty much flush with the guards and thats with camber. Fronts i will be trying to fit 225/40/18

here are some pics
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff25/FR280/P06-11-07_183102-1.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff25/FR280/IMG_9013.jpg

[mrs2k]

I just copy pasted this off S2ki in the hope it will help. I intend to do up a few stickies in the S2000 forum for any future reference, but here is a guide to start with.


Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.

Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.

For the front:
205 tires: +43 offset minimum (6.5” to 7.5” wide wheel)
215 tires: +48 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
225 tires: +53 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
235 tires: +58 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +63 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)

For the rear:
235 tires: +40 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +45 offset minimum (7.5” to 9.0” wide wheel)
255 tires: +50 offset minimum (8.0” to 9.5” wide wheel)
265 tires: +55 offset minimum (8.5” to 9.5” wide wheel)
275 tires: +60 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)
285 tires: +65 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)

The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.

Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can’t stuff a 275 on a 7” wide wheel, and you wouldn’t want to use a 9” wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.

OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:

Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire

and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels (including MY06) are as follows:

Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire

Thanks very helpful

[-parkes-]

Y::.;1653258']
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff25/FR280/P06-11-07_183102-1.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff25/FR280/IMG_9013.jpg

Ish..... that thing is lower than mine :eek: do you dodge pot holes like your playing battle ships when you drive?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Parkes-probably is lower. :P

and i only dodge the really big potholes

[-parkes-]

Y::.;1655277']Parkes-probably is lower. :P

and i only dodge the really big potholes

Potholes, cracks, road kill, uneven surfaces... I dodge them all ;) Would hate to see how my car looks like from behind. People probably think I'm drunk LOL

But seriously man your car is super lower especially the front. You must scrape a fair bit.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

Potholes, cracks, road kill, uneven surfaces... I dodge them all ;) Would hate to see how my car looks like from behind. People probably think I'm drunk LOL

But seriously man your car is super lower especially the front. You must scrape a fair bit.

well i have raised the front up abit. Also trimmed abit off the front air deflector as well. Apart from that its quite drivable. Its my daily driver. The only time i have problems is with huge speed humps and dipping driveways.

Apart from that...its all good:thumbsup:

On a side note, the car looks alot better lowered imo.

[aznsiko]

i run the following..

F:225/40 on a 18x8 +40
R:255/35 on a 18x8 +40

seem to have no problems.. but then again what was mention before about the camber and etc.. is really tru as im funning roughly about 3 degree neg camber on the rear.. car is lowered but not as slammed as FLYs.. though it does look hot lower...

[ludecrs]

^

Do you scrub with a 255 in the rear?

[civicem1]

Hey guys,

I'm currently in the same position. Going to buy an s2k soon and found some hot looking wheels. However, the diameter of the rims are of two different sizes; does this pose an issue? Here are the specs of the rims:

Fronts: 17 x 7 offset +35
Rears: 18 x 9.5 offset +42

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[AusS2000]

Hmmm, well the different diameters aren't really a problem but you may have trouble fitting a 9.5 inch wheel with a +42 offset under the guards.

[civicem1]

^ thanks for the quick reply. will the 7" upfront look too small?

[ludecrs]

I run a 8" rear +43 and it fits perfecto, but an extra 1/2" wider and same offset won't work IMO.

[revolution]

I am running

17X8 +45 with 225/45/R17 - front
17X9 +63 with 245/40/R17 - rear

I haven't driven it much yet as I just mounted them on. Rear looks fine but front is kinda sticking out a bit and by calculation it is 15mm extra. Hope it doesn't rub, but I think it will be fine with some coilovers and camber kit.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

^^ should be right. though fronts 225/40/17 should be fine. rear u can probably run 255/35/17?

what wheels did u buy?

[revolution]

Y::.;1679010']^^ should be right. though fronts 225/40/17 should be fine. rear u can probably run 255/35/17?

what wheels did u buy?

Was planning on running 255 in the rears but the place I bought the tyres from only had 245. I bought some Buddyclub P1 QF's and mounted them with Continental conti sport contact 3's.

[AusS2000]

Blacks old wheels? Nice!

[.::F[L]Y::.]

people, may i direct you attention to this thread

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=456737

[revolution]

Blacks old wheels? Nice!

Na, not a fan of white wheels. Ended up buying a new set.

Fly - was looking through that thread last night. Some crazy setup's there :eek:

[.::F[L]Y::.]

yea. loving the cars rocking the RPF1!

btw, what kind of market is there for just a pair of rims? thinking of selling the two rear 57PRO from my car. I want to get 18x9.5 rears running 18x8.5 just doesnt cut it lol

[nics15]

Hey does anyone know the offset on the light blue s2k in the states running 19inch Meister 3P SP1s?? Looks sick but unsure if that setup will cause rubbage...

[ludecrs]

pictures will help.

So too will be asking the owner :)

[[clone]]

Im runnin 18 x 8.5 +43 all round with 225/40 falkens stretched. Doesnt scrub at all. Getting lowered 2.5in's next week, by the looks of it wont need to roll the guards either : D

[AusS2000]

Dayum, dat'll look fully hectic!

[ludecrs]

;1700415']Im runnin 18 x 8.5 +43 all round with 225/40 falkens stretched. Doesnt scrub at all. Getting lowered 2.5in's next week, by the looks of it wont need to roll the guards either : D

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84128

In attendance?

[[clone]]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84128

In attendance?

hmmmm yeah saw the thread the other day, put me down as a maybe...crickey thats a lot of cars!!!:D

[[clone]]

Dayum, dat'll look fully hectic!


Yeah should look a abit of alright, was about to sell my s2k and buy a new EVO but decided to stick with the s2k, now time to spend some money on her :D

[ludecrs]

;1700492']hmmmm yeah saw the thread the other day, put me down as a maybe...crickey thats a lot of cars!!!:D

Need more 2000's!

[lzybum]

hey guys,
just wondering if i was to buy a new set of rims for my s2k...would

17 x 9 +42 all round fit (including tyres) without any scrubbing issues?
would these sit flush? (or slightly over or under flush?)

[ludecrs]

My opinion is they will stick out up front by about an inch, so they won't sit flush no. Without dialing in a bit of camber you'll probably scrub too IMO?

In the US, 17x9 + 45 is a 'preferred' offset for track days.

Wait for member 'vyets' to come in to this thread, he's the OHS2K expert on this stuff.

[lzybum]

sweet.

well the thing is..i still want 17 x 9 rims on all fours.

wot offsets would i need to make them sit flush on all fours (considering tyre size + no scrubbing)? =)

cheers!!

[ludecrs]

Mine sit dead flush if thats what you're looking for?

I run the following:
18x7.5 +45mm (215 rubber)
18x8.5 +49mm (225 rubber)

No scrubbing, and can go larger tyre size easily enough.

Just remember, 1 inch is equal to about 24mm, so if you're going to change widths, you need to adjust the offset number too.

PS: I have them up for sale at the moment..... ;)

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/146255/3323650d.jpg

[DC5TYPER]

I did a lot of research before I bought 17 x 9 +54 F & R. This offset should give an aggressive look but camber of around -2 degrees is needed to keep the top of the tyre flush with guard. Tyre being 255/40. With a smaller tyre like 235 which just fits 9inch wide, you should be able to fit this offset a lil easier.

Hope this helps

[eriktufa]

18x8.5 +43 will rub if you lower it too much.

[lzybum]

I did a lot of research before I bought 17 x 9 +54 F & R. This offset should give an aggressive look but camber of around -2 degrees is needed to keep the top of the tyre flush with guard. Tyre being 255/40. With a smaller tyre like 235 which just fits 9inch wide, you should be able to fit this offset a lil easier.

Hope this helps

sweet!!

i've been looking around and asking ppl and stuff..they all come up with different offsets for 17x9 all round, and their ones were even lower offsets...so with ur setup...does the guards need to be rolled at all to fit? (even with say that -2 camber)

im also curious as to how long the tires would last with the -2 camber.

if u dont mind could u also post a pic!!

much appreciated!! =D

[vyets]

Everything you need to know is here.

http://www.maxrev.net/widetires.htm

-2 wont wear your tyres unless you have an aggressive toe setting. UK s2000 has -2 camber stock on the rears.

17x9 +42 wont fit.

This is flush..

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/donutmikey/Power%20Honda%20090708/IMG_8160.jpg

Take a look at this thread to see other peoples setups, alot of non staggered setups in here as well. Some people post their setups and camber and tyre sizes.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=456737

[lzybum]

hey guys,
the set of rims that im looking at...well the ones i want is 17x9's on all fours.
the thing is..the highest offset they offer is +44.

i was wonder if these would fit (17x9" +44) in the F&R.
if they dont, wot could i do to make these fit?

[ludecrs]

This is 17x9 +45

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/makoto_master/advanrg2.jpg

[civicem1]

F 17x8 + 44 (215/45; No camber, No fender roll).
R 17x9 + 44 (235/45; 1degree camber + fender roll to come)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5227/img6967cf4.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6967cf4.jpg)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/img6967cf4.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img255/img6967cf4.jpg/1/)

[JAP-S2K]

The most agressive offset you can run without having to roll guards, on a 8" wide rim is +48 and +60 on a 9" rim. However your playing with the life of the factory front guards. There aren't many rim manufactures that make decent offsets for S2K's, other than common japanese rims.

[ludecrs]

Thats not entirely true.

I had 19x8 all round +43 (with a 3mm spacer, thus effectively +40) and I didn't have to roll guards - but they did only ever scrub going down my street where theres a rather large dip in the road. I never scrubbed anywhere else though.

[JAP-S2K]

I agree, at factory ride height, but not when it's lowered.

[dc5ive]

hi guys, just wondering will these wheels fit on s2k ?
front 20x8 +32
rear 20x9 +38

[mrs2k]

hi guys, just wondering will these wheels fit on s2k ?
front 20x8 +32
rear 20x9 +38

will fit but need roll guards and camber....

[dc5ive]

will i have to get coilovers or will stock suspension hold ?

[mrs2k]

they both will hold but your car probably feel like shit with stock suspension and camber. mate just look for something a little less aggressive to be realistic aim for 40+offset and smaller rims

[ludecrs]

I'm going 18x8 35 and 18x9 45, and thats going to be a somewhat challenging task, so a 20x8 32 and 20x9 38 is just not worth it. The amount of hassle, to fit them, would be unbelievable. IMO.

- Brad

[DC2spec94]

hi guys, just wondering will these wheels fit on s2k ?
front 20x8 +32
rear 20x9 +38


It depend on what type of wheels you are getting, i have 17x7 +32 FR and 17x8 +38 Rear, these fit fine on OEM fender, only need to roll all F+R guards... so yeh depend on the type of wheels:thumbsup:

[ludecrs]

They're 20's tho, not 17's LOL.

[DC2spec94]

yeh, i knew that...i reckon still depend on what type of wheels...like ADVAN RG, the offset will be like 9' +38 or around there....try to fit CE28 9' +38 will be soooo agressive, right? so every offset is diff for each kind of wheels. Cheers


They're 20's tho, not 17's LOL.

i dont think it matter whether 20' or 17', they are the diameter and i am referring to offset... ;):thumbsup:

[vyets]

yeh, i knew that...i reckon still depend on what type of wheels...like ADVAN RG, the offset will be like 9' +38 or around there....try to fit CE28 9' +38 will be soooo agressive, right? so every offset is diff for each kind of wheels. Cheers



i dont think it matter whether 20' or 17', they are the diameter and i am referring to offset... ;):thumbsup:

Not really, the offset will stick out the same. it's only diffrent on each style rim for brake clearance and thats because of the spoke designs, as for how far they stick out its the same.

Tyre brand/style and size will matter more about clerance then diffrent wheels

[DC2spec94]

Not really, the offset will stick out the same. it's only diffrent on each style rim for brake clearance and thats because of the spoke designs, as for how far they stick out its the same.

Tyre brand/style and size will matter more about clerance then diffrent wheels

Yes, i agree with you...thats what im trying to explain to ludecrs... it doenst matter 20' or 17', the offset will be the same if they are the same type of wheels.... coz it sounded that ludecrs referring that 20' is more stick out than 17'... i could be wrong what ludecrs trying to say

[ludecrs]

Kinda missed my point. I was saying you can fit a 17" tyre with aggressive offset under our guards much easier than you can fit a set of 20's which require rolled & pulled guards of equal offsets.

IE: 20x8 +35 v 17x8 +35. The 17x8 will pretty much fit with just a camber adjustment. The 20's due to their stupidly large size, will require a roll and pull of the fender PLUS camber adjustment.

[vyets]

Yes, i agree with you...thats what im trying to explain to ludecrs... it doenst matter 20' or 17', the offset will be the same if they are the same type of wheels.... coz it sounded that ludecrs referring that 20' is more stick out than 17'... i could be wrong what ludecrs trying to say

Offset will still be the same if its different wheels lol. fender clearance wise

[9large]

Yes, i agree with you...thats what im trying to explain to ludecrs... it doenst matter 20' or 17', the offset will be the same if they are the same type of wheels.... coz it sounded that ludecrs referring that 20' is more stick out than 17'... i could be wrong what ludecrs trying to say

Assuming the same offset of 38mm, 20x9 is a much bigger wheel and tyre combination than 17x8. Don't forget, it's not just greater diameter being 20", but it's also a an inch wider at 9". This means the rear tyres are going to extend by 46mm more than the stock AP1 setup. Add lowering and you're going to need new rear-fenders/fender extensions.

Whatever rocks your boat, but I can't see why you'd want to stick 20" wheels on an S2000; you'll completely destroy what the car was made to do.

[DC2spec94]

Kinda missed my point. I was saying you can fit a 17" tyre with aggressive offset under our guards much easier than you can fit a set of 20's which require rolled & pulled guards of equal offsets.

IE: 20x8 +35 v 17x8 +35. The 17x8 will pretty much fit with just a camber adjustment. The 20's due to their stupidly large size, will require a roll and pull of the fender PLUS camber adjustment.


Yep, spot on :thumbsup:

[eriktufa]

17x8.5 +40 rear fits with the help of guard rolling & rear bumper tab relocation.

[dc5ive]

sorry guys ... but found another wheel
20x8.5 +45 5x114.3
all round
will a 8.5" wide wheel fit on the front of a s2000 ?

[ludecrs]

they'll stick out without a camber adj or fender roll.... or both.

my old 19x8 +43 (with 3mm spacer to clear calipers ths effectively +40) stuck out substancially on the front.

[dc5ive]

thanks ludecrs

[dc5ive]

http://firesport.com.au/images/130872_2009030132.jpg
i might get these ... something abit different on a s2000 tring to do a VIP/jdmish style

[[clone]]

sorry guys ... but found another wheel
20x8.5 +45 5x114.3
all round
will a 8.5" wide wheel fit on the front of a s2000 ?

Had 18 x 8.5 +45 on mine, maybe stuck out 1mm, camber will fix that and as long as you have stretched tyres probably wont even need camber either :thumbsup:

If they are +45 all round you may want to put a 5mm spacer on the rear as it just doesnt look quite right with the same offset all round.

[dc5ive]

18 x 8.0 +45 5h x 114.3 and 18 x 9.0 +48 5h x 114.3
will they fit no worries?
can i go a more agressive set up ?
+40 in the front and +45 in the rears ?

[vyets]

yea u can but ull prob rub just roll the guards! :D
go +45 front and +45 rears :D

[dc5ive]

so 18 X 8 45 and 18 X 9 45
might get some rota d2

[HRV-80Y]

with quite abit of fiddling bumper tab relocation, bumper shaving, guard rolling i'm running 18x8 +45 225/35 front 18x9 +43 245/40 rear and lowered enough tyres sit under guards around 1cm

[[stealth]]

throw up some pics HRV!

[HRV-80Y]

pics ? only can show 1 here...

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9623/imgp0039r.jpg

[[stealth]]

no side ons? what shoes u got?

[HRV-80Y]

you will have to wait and see?

[Boost]

Whats the smallest size and lowest offset you can run on a s2k?

[ludecrs]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1651499&postcount=15

[abstract09]

hi guys.
i planning to get a set of rims 18x7.5 offset +42 on all 4 wheels.

will these have a problem on a not lowered car?

any help will be appreciated. thanks

[ludecrs]

They'll fit easily enough. Rears may look slightly off, but probably not noticably ugly or anything.

[abstract09]

oic. thanks.

from the chart i'm guessing it is best to use

front : 205

back : 235

for tyres?

[dc5ive]

these wheels will work wont they?
Front 19x8.5 - 235/35/19 with +38 offset
Rear 19x9 - 265/30/19 with +45 offset

[ludecrs]

Fronts will likely need a pull / roll / camber etc to fit that sizing.

[vyets]

Definatly needs a pull :D
Why don't you guys just read the thread that ludecrs linked..? It's there for a reason

[dc5ive]

hehe =] ill search b4 i post next time, might get a set of buddy clubs

[lzybum]

hey guys
how about another different setup?

i was thinking along the lines of 17x9" +44 fronts on 225/45/17 and 18x9.5" +38 rears on 245/35/18.

how do u think the ride feel would change from running 17's all round to 17 fronts and 18 rears? any disadvantages?
(im running 17x9" +44 on 235/45/17 all round atm)

and how about the sidewalls? is the 245/35/18's gona look too small/narrow compared to the 225/45/17's ?

would the stretch of 225/45/17 over 9" be enough to make it look even (or look even in wheel circumference) with the low profile of 245/35/18 over 9.5"?

last question ahaha. i've never dealt with 18" rims and 35 profiles...i've heard ppl say that 35profiles are really thin and that potholes could damage the rim (especially when the 35 profiles are stretched). would u recommend 255/35/18's instead or 245/35/18s be alright?

cheers guys !
*or do u think im being too creative and stupid now? lol*

[vyets]

What rims do you have atm :O

18's will feel abit more rough
yeap thinner tyres could mean damage to your rims depending on what you hit, not to say 17" wont be the same.

[lzybum]

gunmetal work emotion cr kais =D

[vyets]

Nice like my old rims cept I only had 17x9+44 at the rears
I miss them :(

[firesole]

I am looking at cr kai rims too. did the 17x9 +44 fit without any mods and what specs were your running at the front? and what spec tyres did you end up using? Thanks.

[lzybum]

17x9 +44 will need a fender roll on the rears!
i remember vyets ran 17x8 +47 in the front ? if i remember correctly, i dont think u need to do any mods to the fenders with that.

im running 17x9 +44 on all 4 corners, and the only problem i've had is running wide tyres on the front (235/45/17's lol) and that eventually bends ur stock fenders if u dont roll them (only cuz of the way u drive up driveways etc...). when the current ones run out of rubber, gona change to 225/45's fronts instead, and maybe some 255/40s on the rears! =D

[Eth]

hi guys, has anyone tried on Lenso DC5-v2, 18x8 (5x114.3) before? Would appreciate some comments on them? reckon it'll sit well?

would love a set of cr kai's but bit tight on budget atm ...

Ta

[euromandeluxe]

what's the offset on that wheel?

[Eth]

for some reason, you can only search them as Tenso's but sold in AU as Lenso ..

there's offset of 25, 37 and 45.

http://www.tenzoracingsports.com/main.php?page=wheels

[tamay_s2k]

+37 offset on a 9 inch rim wuld b ideal
sits the best imo
im running 18x9 +38 on the rear and its perfect!
doesnt poke out like stupid but doesnt sit inside n look weak.

[Eth]

reckon I'll do 18*8 +45 front and 18*8 +37 rear. thoughts?

would i require fender roll? thx

[tamay_s2k]

rear most liekly, depends how much camber u run n how low the car is and tire size
front, no chance

[vyets]

front will fit, but you need roll, you ALWAYS need to rolll your front guards if you plan on lowering you car.
Those sizes will fit if you run 225's all round

[anfo2gig]

Sorry in bringing an old thread back up, but just wondering if at 17x9 +45mm RPF1 will fit for the front and rear?
If it doesn't what would i need to do to get it to fit?

Thanks Guys

[ludecrs]

You will need a roll of the fenders F&R if you wish to run a chunky tyre all round.

RPF1 17x9 +45 with a 255/40 all round is a popular track setup in the SCCA / USA.

[Samm928]

GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
17x8/ 17x9 +33 RIMS WILL THEY FIT ON A S2000?? without running camber ?!?! and what tyres!


THANKSSS DUDES

[anfo2gig]

Thanks, i was thinking 235/45 for front and 255/40 for rear?
So your suggestion will be a 255/40 all around for the Rims that Ill be getting?

[steeeven]

might as well ask a noob question would 16x8 +40 look to small for a s2k? So slightly wider then stock wheels?

[garett]

depends on the style of the wheel being a 16"

there is a gallery on S2KI.com with 16" wheels. some look good. some look gay balls

[lzybum]

GUYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
17x8/ 17x9 +33 RIMS WILL THEY FIT ON A S2000?? without running camber ?!?! and what tyres!


THANKSSS DUDES

sam
they will fit on the s2k but u will need to roll front and rear guards and relocate the rear tab.

now to answer ur question of camber, it depends wot type of look ur going for?
full tyres? (F:225/45 and R:255/40) or
ap2 spec tyres? (F: 215/45 and R: 245/40) or
stretched ish? (F:205/45 and R:235/40)
dont quote me on this, but stretchedish look will require at least -2.5 to 3*camber on the rears and about say -1.5 to 2* on the front
and obviously full tyres would need a bit more camber.

i'd go for ap2 spec tyres lol

im running -3* camber all round but 0 toe, toe is the main factor that kills tyre life yoo

[steeeven]

depends on the style of the wheel being a 16"

there is a gallery on S2KI.com with 16" wheels. some look good. some look gay balls

thanks for that what's your opinion on bbs rs 16x8 on an s2k? look small and gay?

[greek_rambos2k]

hey guys got a set of bbs lm 17x8 40 and 17x9 42. what tire sizes should i put on them? i dont mind rolling the guards if i have to. i was thinking 225/45r17 front and 255/40r17 rear but im not sure if they will fit. helps?

[vyets]

hey guys got a set of bbs lm 17x8 40 and 17x9 42. what tire sizes should i put on them? i dont mind rolling the guards if i have to. i was thinking 225/45r17 front and 255/40r17 rear but im not sure if they will fit. helps?

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?144437-17X8-45-Front-17X9-45-Rear-Tire-sizes

[Samm928]

sam
they will fit on the s2k but u will need to roll front and rear guards and relocate the rear tab.

now to answer ur question of camber, it depends wot type of look ur going for?
full tyres? (F:225/45 and R:255/40) or
ap2 spec tyres? (F: 215/45 and R: 245/40) or
stretched ish? (F:205/45 and R:235/40)
dont quote me on this, but stretchedish look will require at least -2.5 to 3*camber on the rears and about say -1.5 to 2* on the front
and obviously full tyres would need a bit more camber.

i'd go for ap2 spec tyres lol

im running -3* camber all round but 0 toe, toe is the main factor that kills tyre life yoo

your legendary...

[lzybum]

^^^
so watchya gona do sam?
put em on or what!? lol

[Samm928]

2x 18x8inch 40mm offset and 2 x 18x9inch 40mm offset

what tyres do i run at the back and at the front.
staggered rims..


not featuring dish.


i want it to look as oem as possible without too much camber.


<3

[tamay_s2k]

with that fitment it'll look nothing close 2 oem.
ur rim will poke a little it if u run stretch on the rear and ur tires will buldge out iif u dont run stretch
and the camber will be determined on how much u lower it

[lzybum]

2x 18x8inch 40mm offset and 2 x 18x9inch 40mm offset

what tyres do i run at the back and at the front.
staggered rims..


not featuring dish.


i want it to look as oem as possible without too much camber.


<3

i guess it depends how low u wanna go!
F 215/40 and R 245/35 (moar low needed lol)
F 215/40 and R 235/40

i'd say about -1.5* F and -2.5* R on camber
could try -2* rear but would need a roll of the guards too

[DBG]

Hey,

New to the forum and have done a HEAP of reading up!!

I just wanted to confirm 100% before purchase...

Will 18x8.5f and 18x9.5r with 39 offset all round fit ok? Happy to do some minor guard rolling and minor camber if required.

Was thinking 225 and 245 Tyres.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Cheers

Ben

[vyets]

Hey,

New to the forum and have done a HEAP of reading up!!

I just wanted to confirm 100% before purchase...

Will 18x8.5f and 18x9.5r with 39 offset all round fit ok? Happy to do some minor guard rolling and minor camber if required.

Was thinking 225 and 245 Tyres.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Cheers

Ben

Yeaps

[DBG]

Thanks heaps mate.

[greek_rambos2k]

i gave up with mine 17x8 40 and 17x9 42. hence selling them

[DBG]

i gave up with mine 17x8 40 and 17x9 42. hence selling them

Why is that? Too much work or wanted something different?

[greek_rambos2k]

Why is that? Too much work or wanted something different?

too much work. lol might have to sell the tyres too but hmmm tyring to get same size but diff offset

[vyets]

i gave up with mine 17x8 40 and 17x9 42. hence selling them

Here's my old setup

17x9 +40 on a 255/40 RT615. -2.5 degrees rear camber Roll + relocate bumper tab

1 hour to roll 1 hour to relocate tab no rubbing.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5011/ftmt.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/ftmt.jpg/)

[Couped Up]

hey Guys i just recently bought my s2k and i already dropped it on king springs which is a 1.5 inch drop all around.Now i have 2 choices of rims im after one offers 18x8.5 +40 all around and the other offers 18x8.5 +40 fronts and 18x9.5 rear +40 could you tell me if i could fit these wheels with out a prob with only rolling the guards and if it will stick out heaps??? And also the tyre size you recommend me to use aswell???

[vyets]

Look at the post on the page before it will give you a rough idea of how much it will stick out..

[DBG]

Thanks for the pic vyets.

Couped up - do u have any pics of yours lowered on king springs? What is the ride like? Was tossing up whether or not to get them or coilovers...

[Couped Up]

Hey DBG its low but not slammed i dont mind them... how ever i would prefer coilovers i just ran out of money thats why i bought kings springs LOLZ!!!

[VeYzZii]

Ive been running this setup for about 6 months..
19x9.5 all around with 235 Tyres and +35 Offset. Outcome: had to raise the car. Its now only lowered about an inch. But looks sick..
http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q376/sik_sniper/IMG_0776.jpg
http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q376/sik_sniper/IMG_0903-1.jpg

[phatty]

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum so bare with me on this question :). I'm currently running on cr kai works 17x8 and 17x9 dont know my offset as the owner forgot what the offsets were.. I think he said +35 and +45 that was on the top of his head and he admitted he doesnt remember.. Front tyres are 225/45 and rears are 255/40.. But I was just wondering how much negative camber i would need for them to fit into my rear guards on stock camber adjustment.. Also i'm going to lower my car on Eibach pro kit springs which are about a 1" drop and i've heard people saying that lowering your car already gives natural camber? And what other solutions would there be around this problem? *running on stock shocks and springs atm stock everything* Any help would be great :)

Heres some photos of them sticking out of my guards not much im guessing.. Thanks guys.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/phats2/IMG_0180.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb361/phats2/IMG_0178.jpg

[vyets]

you don't need more camber just roll the guards and everything should be sweet once you lower it. just get an alignment after lowing the car or you will get uneven tyre wear.

[phatty]

you don't need more camber just roll the guards and everything should be sweet once you lower it. just get an alignment after lowing the car or you will get uneven tyre wear.

So the 1" drop will probably give the camber i need for it to fit into my guards without rubbing? Because atm i have 2 12" subs in the boot plus a fibreglass box which makes the back heavy as and then makes it easy to rub together.. Also my camber is stock atm, hasnt been touched by any of the owners.. wouldnt need to adjust them would i?

[vyets]

Roll you guards.. that's what I said. 1" drop won't give you enough camber to clear without a guard roll.

[phatty]

Roll you guards.. that's what I said. 1" drop won't give you enough camber to clear without a guard roll.

I've already got them rolled and still rubs. So I'll just lower it see if it fits if not I'll need to camber it then get alignment?

[vyets]

Oh alright then it's most likely rubbing your rear bumper you will have to trim it.

if it's not rubbing that then take off the wheel and look and see what is actually rubbing.

[phatty]

Oh alright then it's most likely rubbing your rear bumper you will have to trim it.

if it's not rubbing that then take off the wheel and look and see what is actually rubbing.

Yeah my brothers friend mentioned something about trimming the rear bar I guess I'll ask him about it later but question is.. If I lower it with a 1" drop and with my rolled guards, the wheel shouldn't hit the guard anymore? But most likely to hit the rear bar is that correct?

[vyets]

if you cut it then it will not hit anymore. When you hit a bump and your wheels scub does it sound like it's rubbing metal or plastic? also look at your tyre is there plastic on the rear tyre or it's straight cutting through your tyre. Once you trim the rear bar it shouldn't rub at the height your at, atm or when you lower it.

[phatty]

if you cut it then it will not hit anymore. When you hit a bump and your wheels scub does it sound like it's rubbing metal or plastic? also look at your tyre is there plastic on the rear tyre or it's straight cutting through your tyre. Once you trim the rear bar it shouldn't rub at the height your at, atm or when you lower it.

I can't really tell. It's not over bumps let's say I'm going 70 in a 70 zone and the road is bumpy it'll rub. Only when I'm going fast it rubs. Not sure what it sounds like to be honest. I'm goin to cut trim my rear bar and go for a drive tonight and see if it still rubs or not. And update you with what happens probably later tonight . If it still rubs it's probably hitting the fender aye?

[vyets]

i doubt it's hitting the fender but take a look put your finger under the guard and see where the rubber is if there's rubber on the guard then that's where it's rubbing.

When it rubs metal it sounds like well.. metal like a can rubbing on the floor. When it rubs your plastic rear bumper well it sounds like plastic sounds like your front end when you're going up a driveway and it rubs totally different sounds.

From the picture it dosen't even look like your guards are rolled but of corse I can't tell as I can't see under it. trim the rear bar and relocate the bumper tab and see how you go. that most likely will fix it.

[phatty]

i doubt it's hitting the fender but take a look put your finger under the guard and see where the rubber is if there's rubber on the guard then that's where it's rubbing.

When it rubs metal it sounds like well.. metal like a can rubbing on the floor. When it rubs your plastic rear bumper well it sounds like plastic sounds like your front end when you're going up a driveway and it rubs totally different sounds.

From the picture it dosen't even look like your guards are rolled but of corse I can't tell as I can't see under it. trim the rear bar and relocate the bumper tab and see how you go. that most likely will fix it.

I'll check all that once I get home and am able to check it.
Hmm kind of sounds like both of them at the same time. I saw a picture of I think your rear bar and fender and I saw that the fender tip towards the rear was being bent in under the tail lights.. Mine is bending in slowly too. So that might mean that it's rubbing into the rear bumper and hitting against the fender. And I went to a shop to get my guards rolled so yeah.. I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah I'll be doing that tonight so I'll update you then :)

[phatty]

Fixed my problem :) shaved the rear bar and relocated the mount and doesn't scrub and realized it was only rubbing the rear bar not the guards so all good thanks for your help vyets. + Rep :)

[vyets]

haha told ya, easy yea :D good stuff now slam that shit!

[phatty]

haha told ya, easy yea :D good stuff now slam that shit!

very easy :) slam? Nah.. The roads i gotta take got bumps and slants everywhere and going into shopping centres, even in car parks are too high. And dont even get me started about getting in to parking for work, speedhumps arent as bad though. but thanks for tip (Y)

[9000RPM]

hey guys,

i've just moved up to brisbane from melbourne and i'm looking for a reputable business to roll my stock fenders? cos i'm planning on getting rpf1 17x9+45 all around. any recommendations? thinking of asking "fine fitment" at the moment.

also seeking advice on tyre sizes? ideally i want to go 245/40/17 all around but i'm not sure whether pulling/flaring is required for the front fenders? ideally i just want to roll the front fenders and avoid flaring to keep the stock fender look. this is assuming the car will be dropped an inch and no ridiculous camber (it's my daily driver). will 245s fit with just the roll?

lastly, for the people that have lowered their cars, just want to know if it's common to shave off the "mudflaps" or leave them? as mine are already scraping occasionally even at stock height.

thanks in advance.

[ludecrs]

Ty rolled my guards. Ty as in from Fine Fitment. He will roll them fine, just don't ask to have them flared.

[9000RPM]

cheers for the advice :)

oh and guys, by mudflaps, i'll clarify in case i'm using the wrong term... i mean the part of the wheel well liner that extends below the actual wheel well and sticks out beneath the chassis. just wondering if these need to be trimmed when lowering..

[lzybum]

well lets just say...if ur low enough, ur tyres will 'rub' against them on bumps etc and will eventually be 'trimmed' for u lol, happened to me
if not then ur fine
nothing major though!

edit: oh i think i know what u meant, the black rubber/plastic part under the front bumper-ish?
dw, if ur over 100mm in ride height, it should be fine =)

[ludecrs]

I still have mine there. Just well worn.

[ooz200]

OK, Im new to the whole "upgrading wheels" world. Iv narrowed it down to two styles- Lenso Muse & CSA Dominators and im thinking 19' but im a novice when it comes to offsets ect, Does it have something to do with scrubbing ect ????? Can someone shed some light for me ?????

[euromandeluxe]

Have a read of this if you're new to fitment etc

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/342793-wheel-fitment-guide/

[Couped Up]

Hey guys just a quick question i found the wheels i want to roll one they are XXR 522 (te37 replicas) i was thinkin of getting 18x8.5 +48 front with 215 or 225 tyres and 18x9.5 +38 rear with 235/245 tyres will these fit on my car lowered on king springs 1.5 inch drop????

[vyets]

yeap will fit but still need a roll

[jonezy]

Has anyone tried 19x8 1/2 on the front and 19x9 1/2?

[vyets]

depends on what offset but you'll need a roll :) you ALWAYS need a roll

[sugz]

Hey guys
will 18x9 +37 and 18x10 +44 fit under S2K guards?

thanks

[dlai5552]

yes it will, but it's going to definitely need to roll, and a bit of a pull/flare on your 18x10 (i think)
also, quite a bit of camber, but the stock camber adjustments should be good enough, and a tab relocation

but, that's an incredible set up you are going for!! would look awesome :D

[Ecclesium]

Yeh definately will need some rolling and pulling but will look sooooo good :thumbsup:

[dlai5552]

ohh, also depends on your tyres size! what tyres will you be running?

[vyets]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?88767-s2000-wheel-offset-help!

[ludecrs]

My meisters are 18x10 +44 in the rear. Flare not necessary, just a roll and pump. As for tyres I just ordered new tyres and they came from Victoria yesterday. 275's in the rear.

[sugz]

ohh, also depends on your tyres size! what tyres will you be running?

it has 215/40 at front and 235/40 rear

[vyets]

it has 215/40 at front and 235/40 rear

u will fit fine with those size tyres def need a roll but

[jrstyles]

I should have looked at this thread! Rear is ok 17x8.5+40 245/40/17 but im having problems with the fronts 17x7.5+30 225/45/17 on stock height and camber and its poking out alittle. Would changing tyres to 215/45/17 help tuck it in alittle or should i be looking at changing to coils?

[vyets]

Changing coils won't help wheel fitment, 215 will sit in slightly but not that much but it will help a tiny bit because the 225 is slightly oversiezd. If your front guards are rolled that's fine, because your running such a thin front rim it's hard to stretch without going under the standard 205 tyre.

[boodgy]

Planning on getting 17x9 +45 wheels soon and was wondering what tire sizes I should run. I was thinking 245/40 all round. But after reading a few threads I saw some guys were running staggered tires on the same wheel specs. Any benefit in doing so?

And also does anyone know where I can get some kw v3's in aus or will the states (eBay) be my only option. I've already browsed thru the traders here.

[AusS2000]

The traders Forty-One on au.s2ki.com were offering them for some ridiculously low price. Look them up.

[JN7]

thinking of getting cr kais..
18x8.5 +30
18x9.5 +30..
comments?

[AusS2000]

Pushing it. I'm running 18x9 +66 on the rear.

[JN7]

And how does that sit? I've seen 9 +38 on the rears and it still tucks

[AusS2000]

Sits fine. I can't imagine anything with a lower offset and wider width not sticking out and needing some camber not to rub.

Oh, I'm running 265/35-18 tyres too.

[ludecrs]

As of yesterday, I run a 275/35/18 on the 10" +44

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/269739_2166549292167_1499720668_32341982_4287877_n .jpg

[AusS2000]

Driven over any bumps recently?

[ludecrs]

Two actually :p

Tyres are only fitted, nothing more. I'm supposed to be out in the backyard lowering the coils now, but after a 13hr sleep, I feel like shit, have a headache and can't be bothered.
It goes in Saturday for its camber & toe adjustments.

[AusS2000]

Two actually :p
after a 13hr sleep, I feel like shit, have a headache and can't be bothered.


^ lightweight ;)

[vyets]

thinking of getting cr kais..
18x8.5 +30
18x9.5 +30..
comments?

Roll the gaurds and run some 215's and 235;s and you'll fit.

[JN7]

do you know how much camber i'd need to run?
do i need to relocate my rear bumper tab?

[vyets]

yes always need to relocate.

prob around -2 or -3 which is nothing anyway but no way to tell until you get it on.

[JN7]

nice, i'll settle for those sizes then.

off topic, but where can i get buddyclub n+ coilovers from? got quoted 1.5 from jdmyard.

[vyets]

usa ebay.. or jdm yard :)

[JN7]

1.4 cheapest..
anyone know what they call buddyclub n+ in Japan? apparently the dude I'm asking thinks there is.

[vyets]

It's called Junior Spec Damper.

[tamay_s2k]

can people use the search bar? bcuz this thread is being over used!

[AusS2000]

can people use the search bar?
Nope

bcuz this thread is being over used!
Isn't that what it's for?

[tamay_s2k]

ok sweet
if i slap some 265s on my 18x9 rears with a offset of +38 will it clear my guards? or will i need further modifications
ive removed bumper tabs and have rolled and very lightly pulled the guards
i also wanna lower 1" from standard and have as much tire touching the road as possible so minimal camber

[jooboo]

ok sweet
if i slap some 265s on my 18x9 rears with a offset of +38 will it clear my guards? or will i need further modifications
ive removed bumper tabs and have rolled and very lightly pulled the guards
i also wanna lower 1" from standard and have as much tire touching the road as possible so minimal camber

i recon you can do it..

[JN7]

lol...

[ludecrs]

When I ran 18x9 +45 I had a 245/35 tyre. It fitted easily and I should of gone a 255/35 instead. Hindsight.
A 265/35 with guard work will fit.
As pictured 2 pages back I now run a 10" +44 on a 275/35. Virtually no stretch, its almost a full tyre.
Unfortunately I've been hella-sick (sic!) and haven't had a chance to get my fitment sorted yet having not left the house for 4 days other than going to the doctors and chemist. Hopefully get around to it this week sometime.

[JN7]

how much camber can you run with stock arms?

[JN7]

When I ran 18x9 +45 I had a 245/35 tyre. It fitted easily and I should of gone a 255/35 instead. Hindsight.
A 265/35 with guard work will fit.
As pictured 2 pages back I now run a 10" +44 on a 275/35. Virtually no stretch, its almost a full tyre.
Unfortunately I've been hella-sick (sic!) and haven't had a chance to get my fitment sorted yet having not left the house for 4 days other than going to the doctors and chemist. Hopefully get around to it this week sometime.

btw, are your guards flared? I'm thinking about 10 +38 but I feel that's pushing it..

[Steve695]

Hey all, I'm after a set of Enkei PF01 17s.

I'm debating on going staggered or non staggered, and don't really know the ups and downs of each.

Anyway the sizes are as follows:
17x9+60 (rear)
17x8+50 (front)

Or I could go 17x9+60 all around.
I was just wondering if this will fit without rubbing? 9 inches seems very wide for the front.
What would be the better option to go with and why?

[ludecrs]

On an 10" +43 with a 275/35 you NEED a flare...

[vyets]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?88767-s2000-wheel-offset-help!

[JN7]

if you guys have a look at this car... he's running 10 +38 and doesn't look like he has a flare..

http://rimtuck.com/setup.php?id=954

[AusS2000]

No, it looks ridiculous.

[vyets]

if you guys have a look at this car... he's running 10 +38 and doesn't look like he has a flare..

http://rimtuck.com/setup.php?id=954

because his running a 245 not a 275.. rolled and faily pulled but not flared.

[xntrik]

Vyets, what are your wheel profiles/tyre profiles?

I need a second opinion before I buy another set of tyres to fit my guards.

PM me if you need to!

[ludecrs]

255/40 all round. ^

[vyets]

Vyets, what are your wheel profiles/tyre profiles?

I need a second opinion before I buy another set of tyres to fit my guards.

PM me if you need to!

17x9 +35 255/50 RE11 Front
17x9.5+35 rear 255/40 RE11 Rear.

Reason why I mention RE11 is because it has slightly thinner sidewalls the other tyres in it's class ie. AD08/Z1 SS

Front guards extremly flared.
Rear guards flared slightly, bumper tab re-located, bumper trimed to almost nothing.

Yes I run this exact setup on the track and daily, it did rub on the track slightly but it's fine now.

Looking at running 265's next time round :D

-2 front and -2.8 rear

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5112/5820548534_68a046257d_z.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/5820547788_29f7df9859_b.jpg

These pics were before the alignment by the way but specs were very close.

[AusS2000]

Sorry, but if you ain't this slammed you ain't trying hard enough.

http://s2000.byteserve.com.au/images/slammed.jpg

[vyets]

I think this is a thread you need to stay away from.

[AusS2000]

I think that about much of OzHonda.

[Steve695]

I think I'm going to go for a non staggered fitment with the PF01's and go 17x9+60 all around. I will probably run 255 tires all around also.

I am going to buy some Buddy Club N+ coilovers to go with the wheels, I was just wondering how low will I be able to go on this wheel size? My guards are rolled.

I'm aiming to drop it to 1 or 2 finger gaps.

[tamay_s2k]

i think that about much of ozhonda.
lmao!

[vyets]

I think I'm going to go for a non staggered fitment with the PF01's and go 17x9+60 all around. I will probably run 255 tires all around also.

I am going to buy some Buddy Club N+ coilovers to go with the wheels, I was just wondering how low will I be able to go on this wheel size? My guards are rolled.

I'm aiming to drop it to 1 or 2 finger gaps.

you can go as low as any other setup the N+ goes real low,

[Steve695]

you can go as low as any other setup the N+ goes real low,

Yeah I know they do, what I meant was, will it rub?

255 tires all around with 1 finger gap

[vyets]

Yeah I know they do, what I meant was, will it rub?

255 tires all around with 1 finger gap


rears will clear easy, front will clear as well but I would advise you to roll the guard anyway. You will also get slight rubbing on the iner guard liners on full lock.

[Steve695]

rears will clear easy, front will clear as well but I would advise you to roll the guard anyway. You will also get slight rubbing on the iner guard liners on full lock.

Thanks.

Will the rubbing cause any damage, or will it be barely noticeable?

[Steve695]

Oh also, my guards are already rolled

[vyets]

no damage it's normal.

[Steve695]

no damage it's normal.

Ok cool.

Will I be able to get enough camber with the standard camber kit? i don't want to have to buy an after market one.

[vyets]

you dont need camber with that setup.

[ChromZ]

i reckon 17x9.0 +54 would be nicer

[dlai5552]

17x9.0 +54 will prevent most scrubbing, but it's still going to scrub on the rear if you are lowered a bit.

I have 17x9 +45 all round, 235/40 on the front and 255/40 on the rear. Front guards were getting demolished even with a roll, so had to diy modify them a bit more!
Although, I am running PSS9's which are very soft.

[Steve695]

17x9.0 +54 will prevent most scrubbing, but it's still going to scrub on the rear if you are lowered a bit.

I have 17x9 +45 all round, 235/40 on the front and 255/40 on the rear. Front guards were getting demolished even with a roll, so had to diy modify them a bit more!
Although, I am running PSS9's which are very soft.

These wheels only come in 17x9+60 or 17x9+48.

Obviously the +60 is much more S2K friendly and the +48 would destroy my fenders.

I am going to be running Buddy Club N+ coilovers.

[vyets]

+54 shouldn't rub at all
+48 is pretty easy to clear as well, as long as you have a slight roll.

[Steve695]

I'm going to go with +60

A guy who went from a +45 to +60 on 17x9's on s2ki swears that his car handled a lot better with the +60 offset.

While +48 would look better with more camber, I'm more concerned about performance than I am about looks. Having said that, being lowered and 9 inch wide tyres bring good looks as a bonus :D

Also, another guy on s2ki is running the same wheels and is sitting a little lower than I plan on going and he says he only rubs a tiny bit on the guard liner when he's on full lock.

[vyets]

a wider footprint would also have positive effects on handling and balance, though I'm surprised that guy could tell a difference. It's not something your everyday person would notice, could also be he tried difference rims/tyres?
Even with a +60 offset you would still want to run the same if not a similar camber settings to the +45.

[Steve695]

a wider footprint would also have positive effects on handling and balance, though I'm surprised that guy could tell a difference. It's not something your everyday person would notice, could also be he tried difference rims/tyres?
Even with a +60 offset you would still want to run the same if not a similar camber settings to the +45.

He was doing Auto X on both setups I think. i'm surprised he noticed the differance too.
Yeah, I'm thinking -2.5 all around. Should be a nice mix between straight line balance and good handling + reduced oversteer.
I hope I can achieve the required camber with the standard camber kit.

[vyets]

standard camber can go beyond -2.5 so nothing for you to worry about.
If you don't want oversteer then I would not recommend a non staggered setup as it's oversteer bias.

[Steve695]

standard camber can go beyond -2.5 so nothing for you to worry about.
If you don't want oversteer then I would not recommend a non staggered setup as it's oversteer bias.

Good to know the camber won't be an issue.

Oh, I know non staggered oversteers more, but from everything I've read it's better for overall handling.
I don't mind the oversteer being there, but it can't hurt to reduce it.

[poko_pano]

hey guys
newbie here
trying to go for the same look ludcres had

would these fit?

gold Work VSXX wheels
17x8 +40 F
17x9 +40 R

thanks!

[dlai5552]

Yes, need a roll and some camber.

[poko_pano]

^^ thanks for the quick reply,
would i need much camber? dont want o be chewing through tires.

thanks again

[NOBITA]

hi guys,i need some help here. does 18x8,5 +40 18x9,5 +40 will fit in s2k. without any problem.
coz someone wanna sell the rims.thanks guys.

[vyets]

nop will need roll all round and undersized tyres.

[dlai5552]

Not really for the camber, like -1.5 or -2 is what I use and my tyres wear out evenly and basically no scrub anymore.
Otherwise do as vyets says and get tyres a little stretch, it's only front you need to worry about. Also depends in how hard you drive! Track?

[poko_pano]

Not really for the camber, like -1.5 or -2 is what I use and my tyres wear out evenly and basically no scrub anymore.
Otherwise do as vyets says and get tyres a little stretch, it's only front you need to worry about. Also depends in how hard you drive! Track?

sorry is this for my question or somebody elses?
im looking at purchasing these rims tonight.....

gold Work VSXX wheels
17x8 +40 F
17x9 +40 R

thanks again!

[dlai5552]

sorry is this for my question or somebody elses?
im looking at purchasing these rims tonight.....

gold Work VSXX wheels
17x8 +40 F
17x9 +40 R

thanks again!

Oh it was for you. However, when you lower the car, you get a bit of camber anyways, so just roll the guards and that should be fine, depending on your suspension stiffness.

[poko_pano]

^^ thank u!

[ludecrs]

As said above.

My gold BBS RG-R's were 18x7.5 +48 F and 18x8.5 +50 R, but they had skinny tyres that they came with.
My white Work Meisters were 18x8 +35 F and 18x9 +45 R, with a 225/40/18 front and a 245/35/18 rear. You could easily fit a 255/35/18 rear in there, however both front and rear guards require guard rolling.

18x8 +35 was a bit of a hack to fit, so I suggest about an 18x8 +40F. The rear was a bit soft in comparison, so I recommend an 18x9 +40 rear - or there abouts - if you want a lowered, semi stanced daily driver capable S2K which offers very little inconvenience that width and offset are spot on IMO.

[Mullensxxx]

R 17x9+45 running 255
F 17x8+45 running 225

discuss!

[poko_pano]

As said above.
so I recommend an 18x9 +40 rear - or there abouts - if you want a lowered, semi stanced daily driver capable S2K which offers very little inconvenience that width and offset are spot on IMO.

THANK U EVERY MUCh
i will take ur advice and get something with that rear and offset....
can u also recommend me a front?

sorry im a bike kinda guy and clueless when it comes to cars

thanks again!

[na]

I run -2 front and -2.5 rear (maybe can get away with slightly less camber) with that offset. Rolled rear guard...slightly...just to be save...
Need rear bumper bolt relocation (where rear bumper meet the rear fender, inside wheel arch). Otherwise perfect offset for S2K i guess...

Front guard is stock as is.
Lowering is 2 finger gap between tyres/fender(so not too low). And I track my car as well...cant afford to have any tyre scrubbing...

[vyets]

R 17x9+45 running 255
F 17x8+45 running 225

discuss!

will clear with roll + natural camber.


every sized wheel people have asked for far req a roll, you always need one if you are going to lower you car even with stock wheels.

[Mullensxxx]

front and rears have around the highest point of the guards rolled, just thought id double check

im the same as NA the plan is to track this car so id prefer no scrubbing, also the car's height can be adjusted as desired or required

[dlai5552]

I've got 17x9 +45 all round, with 235/40 on the front. Went to the track with guards rolled on the front, came back... both were destroyed.
I was running, -2.25 camber on the front and -1.5 toe.

[poko_pano]

what about these?

17x8.5+40
17x8+35 5x114.3

thank, u guys are legends

[vyets]

Sorry but people need to learn how to calculate offset as well, half the sizes people ask are almost the same thing.. can't be spoon fed everything man. Just look through the thread and you will get a general idea if what kind of sizes the car can handle I mean the thread is 20 pages long...


The front guards can handle anything under a 8" wide with 40 and higher offset, that's with a roll.

The rear guards can handle anything under a 9" with 45 offset and just a roll.

That's with full sized tyre and natural camber.

Obviously you can go wider but you will need to sacrafice tyre size.

At the end of the day, like I've said many times you ALWAYS need to roll your guards, once you lower your car even on stock wheels there's a chance of them getting clipped and demolishing your guard.

Best way to find out if a rim will fit is buy it, test fit it then you will know what tyre size you can run and how much work you need done too your guards. Diffrent tyres have diffrent sidewall thicknesses so depending on the tyre you get it will change your fitment as well. There's way too many things to factor and it's best to get out there try and learn.

[AusS2000]

My guards are not rolled.

[vyets]

cool story bro :)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t228/toekneeg/fender.jpg

[ludecrs]

can't be spoon fed everything man.

:thumbsup:

[dlai5552]

cool story bro :)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t228/toekneeg/fender.jpg

Story of my life. This happened to me whilst guards were rolled with 17x9 +45, 235/40, on track :(