MY2009 JAZZ.. it's here!! some pics etc..

[VT3C]

Someone started another thread asking when it comes.. we'll have them in showroom and PRICING on the 14th August !!

We had our Honda Australia training drive-day last week and I was VERY impressed by the new model.. it's certainly much more car than the outgoing model !!

4 models in the Jazz line-up now with the 1.3L GLi coming in a base model (just front airbags) and also the GLi (S.P.) that includes Front, Side and Curtain airbags and a Speed-Alert warning.

The 1.3L ditches i-DSi and both engines now come equipped with i-V TEC. All power gains are over 4,000RPM however low-down torque also improved.

Gone are the CVT boxes being replaced by 5-speed Autos whichis a first for the small-car class.

GLi / GLi S.P.
1.3L i-VTEC 73Kw
5.8L/100km (5/MT)
6.6L/100km (5AT)

VTi / VTi-S
1.5L i-VTEC 88Kw
6.4L/100km (5MT)
6.7L/100km (5AT)

The Blue one is a VTi-S (5/AT) with 16" alloys standard..
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_01.jpg

This new COBALT BLUE colour will be Honda's 'hero colour' featuring in all advertising campaigns etc..
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_02.jpg

The rear end actually slopes DOWN to reduce the drag coefficient apparently.. and no more wing indicators on any models :(
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_03.jpg

The clear indicater / reverse lights on the tails actually stick out and apparently reduce drag by breaking up the airflow around the car's rear.. they look cool.. but gone are the LED's.. note the sexy rear bumper on the VTi-S..
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_04.jpg

i-VTEC badging on all models and on the VTi-S here you can see the 'sporty' exhaust tip.. GLi and VTi's have a 'hidden' exhaust tip that you cant see basically :(
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_05.jpg

Side-skirts on the VTi-S are pretty cool too..
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_06.jpg

All engines (still L-series) now come equipped with i-VTEC and this meaty-looking intake manifold etc.. the 'feel' of the engine reminds me of the old-school D16Y1 / D16Y8 SOHC VTEC's as the motors now haver a pretty wild top-end.. makes for much more fun - especially in the manuals.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_07.jpg

Helios Yellow is still around.. this one is a VTi with the std. 15" steelies with hubcaps..
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_08.jpg

note the under-spoiler standard to direct airflow under the vehicle and reduce drag etc.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_09.jpg

VTi-S interior (all black cloth) now with CRUISE CONTROL only on the VTi-S.. ONLY the VTi-S has paddle-shifters now too.. the VTi (5AT) has no paddles :(
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_10.jpg

GLi (5MT) interior - There's 10 cupholders for 5 passengers.. glug glug.. not to mention finally we score an AUX audio input and MP3/WMA compatibility !!!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_11.jpg

The mighty 1.3L GLi - visually identical to VTi from the exterior now.. used to have the red/blue dot on the 'Jazz' badge and the wing-mirror indicaters.. not anymore hahaha
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/NEW-JAZZ_12.jpg

let me know what you think and post any questions you might have also..

enjoy

[-GruG-]

Thanks for the pics! Something to pick apart over the next few weeks...

What are the interior photos of? Vti-s, vti, or gli?

How's it drive?

Aside from the safety improvements, how else is it much more 'car' than the previous version?

Any little things that grabbed your attention or you thought had a 'cool' factor?

[kongfu]

thx for sharing..

but nothing is fancy to me...still need big $$ to make it nice and perform better : )

[twing]

Is there an option for cruise control?

[kongfu]

btw, no F1 pedal for auto and rear wing for VTI-S model? very disappointed.

[UNLS1]

the steering is the biggest improvement. it was so wishy washy in the old one.

[SPEEDCORE]

Indicators on the guards instead of the mirrors.... *sigh*

Fuel consumption seems high compared to figures from different markets.

[kongfu]

Indicators on the guards instead of the mirrors.... *sigh*

Fuel consumption seems high compared to figures from different markets.

yeah..I love LED indicators on the mirrors:thumbsup: very sad for GE

[VT3C]

yeah I thought the consumption was a bit dissapointing.. but it's still very frugal.. when you drive the car you'll see that there really is no compromise in the drive of the car itself now versus fuel ecconomy.. sure it's slightly less efficient, but it has much more power.

With the wing-mirror indicaters and LED tails, It'd be a pretty safe bet that these will appear at the mid-life make-over..

yeah no paddles on the VTi - but I actually think it's better to differentiate the VTi-S from the VTi with more actual features rather than purely cosmetic differences that the previous generation had.. the CRUISE CONTROL is std on VTi-S.. is NOT AN OPTION on other models however i am going to look into a 'spare-parts' upgrade rather than an accessory upgrade.. but will have to wait till we have the pricelist on spare parts etc. and to see if it needs more than the 'buttons' on the wheel.. the old school cruise controls needed a special module to operate, however I assume the newer ones are purely electronic.. i'll keep you posted..

yeah the steering is great !! the whole feel of the chassis etc is brilliant.. HUGE improvement over the old model..

if you get the 1.5L i dont think it'd take much to get it to perform.. like I said all the power gains are over 4,000RPM and you can really feel it when you drive it.. where the old model L15A used to flatten out at about 4200RPM, this one is just getting going.. plus the engine note is more aggressive than the old model too hahaha.. even the 1.3L now feels as good as the old 1.5L VTEC engine.. but with more top-end hahaha.

when I say 'more car' I mean that it doesnt feel like a small-car class vehicle and the driver feedback rivals the civic.. infact it not only LOOKS like a mini FN2, it feels more like one.. yes you do get more features but it's hard to describe, you just feel like it's MORE of a car...

[dyljoy]

it seems not feature with moonroof as well, i hope it can be optional for buyer...

[EKVTIR-T]

GD looked better
GE is more like Hyundai

Good to see cvt is gone

Asymmetrical steering wheel is hideous

[kongfu]

GD looked better
GE is more like Hyundai

Good to see cvt is gone

Asymmetrical steering wheel is hideous

+1

still prefer GD.

If I was buying again I choose VTI spend $$ on mugen kit and performance parts...

[VT3C]

Asymmetrical steering wheel is hideous

lay off the cray-ack bruvva - it's the same s-wheel as in FD civic..

my pics dont do the new shape justice - when you see it in person i'd be very surprised if you didnt prefer the new shape - especially when parked next to a GD !!

depends on your budget I guess.. i'd get the VTi and fir the MUGEN kit too for the $$$.. but if u cant afford to supply and paint a mugen kit, the VTiS looks great !!.. the extra $$$ is worth it jsut for the Cruise control hahahaha..

[twing]

notice there is no fog light on Vti-S

[SPEEDCORE]

No fogs either.... what on earth is going on..... :(

[EKVTIR-T]

lay off the cray-ack bruvva - it's the same s-wheel as in FD civic..

my pics dont do the new shape justice - when you see it in person i'd be very surprised if you didnt prefer the new shape - especially when parked next to a GD !!

depends on your budget I guess.. i'd get the VTi and fir the MUGEN kit too for the $$$.. but if u cant afford to supply and paint a mugen kit, the VTiS looks great !!.. the extra $$$ is worth it jsut for the Cruise control hahahaha..

Lay off the crack?Umm ok then that's constructive.
I dislike all asymmetrical steering wheels.It just looks wrong to me :)

You don't have to try and justify the car because you sell them either ;) it's blatantly obvious.
People will form their own opinions without your input.

Keep up the good work lol :thumbsup:

[SPEEDCORE]

What exactly do you mean by asymmetrical? You put a line down the middle of the wheel and it is a mirror of itself, granted minus the bottons.

So I have no idea what you mean by that.... :confused:

[twing]

what's the redline on 1.5L engine?

[VT3C]

Lay off the crack?Umm ok then that's constructive.
I dislike all asymmetrical steering wheels.It just looks wrong to me :)

You don't have to try and justify the car because you sell them either ;) it's blatantly obvious.
People will form their own opinions without your input.

Keep up the good work lol :thumbsup:

I said you're smokin' crack because the wheel is completely symetrical.. i guess there's the audio buttons on one side and not the other.. but apart from that it's symetrical.. i cant see what you mean by asymetrical.. if it had one spoke on one side and 2 on the other then yes it'd be asymetrical - but it's not hahaha.. it's the same wheel as in the FD civic's.. fairly standard 3-spoke design with airbag hump in the middle..

I am not justifying anything just giving my opinion and observations and also relaying what I have been told by Honda Australia officials.. Posting this info on here on a national forum doesnt help my sales as I'm in Perth.. it's purely for all your information.. am doing you a favour.. I cant help it if the Honda product excites me and I like it - it would do that regardless of my employment at a dealership.. I was a honda nerd before I worked here LOL

and I am posting these photos before the actual release and marketing campaign has commenced.. so I figure other enthusiast's to the marque would be equally interested to see the latest offerings from the brand..


I think the redline on 1.5L was at about 7,200RPM.. peak power was 6200RPM if I remember correctly.. will post up tech specs ASAP.

[UNLS1]

it seems not feature with moonroof as well, i hope it can be optional for buyer...

lol no chance at all mate. if its not in the pics its not there.

[Zimp13]

none of the pics workin 4 me.... y no moonroof??? expensive???

[dyljoy]

oh, no... but new one still worth to test when they release later.
btw, do they come with white colour? coz i can't see it list on the colour range from VT3C

[95331140]

Pics dont work anymore :-/

[UNLS1]

yes do come in white.

[twing]

does it come with spare tire or just a tire repair kit?

[UNLS1]

all have ful size spare

[VT3C]

sorry if my pics stopped working 'bandwidth exceeded' on my photobucket account.. too many of you guys looking at the images LOL.. should be back up soon :(

[panda[cRx]]

lol @ VT3C's first post, sounds like you were certainly taking notes while listening to the predrive overview on the day.

melb dealers had their drive days this week, i was on our this afternoon.
our drive compared the both the gli, vti and vti-s jazz against the mazda2, suzuki swift and the toyota yaris.

in short the jazz is MILES above in pretty much all departments. it drove nicer, it looks much much better and it is way more practical than any of it's competitors.

my impressions from the day

yaris - cheap and nasty. disgusting dash, was gutless but didn't drive THAT bad, couldn't wait to get out of the thing

mazda2 - very nice looking car, not as comfortable as the jazz, not as well finished.
wasnt a fan of the auto as it was either completely gutless or it was revving off it's ****

swift - good looking exterior, good but not as impressive as the jazz interior, it felt a little small and boxy inside.
it drove very nice even uphill the torque delivery was better than expected, the boot space is non existent

jazz - good performer all round, couldn't fault anything performance wise. it drives much nicer off the line compared to the old model with the cvt. under load it seemed a lil noiser than the old model but i am told it has actually tested much quieter than the cvt.
the interior is amazing compared to anything in it's class. it is also much more practical with 2 gloveboxes, 10 drink holders and even a secret compartment under the lhf seat!

and EKVTIR-T the wheel is symetrical bar 2 buttons :confused:


sorry if my pics stopped working 'bandwidth exceeded' on my photobucket account.. too many of you guys looking at the images LOL.. should be back up soon :(

imageshack > photobucket

[sassy_fit_vtit]

http://jazz.honda.com.au/?WT.mc_id=Homepage_09JazzTeaser

straight of Honda Australia site

[SPEEDCORE]

Panda what models were the other makes.. top of the range or base models?

ie. Swift Sport, Maz 2 Genki, Yaris YRX... which are the top ones for the other makes.

[95331140]

Pics still arent working!!!

[larrrz]

it woulda been nice if the vti-s had retained the spoiler

[panda[cRx]]

Panda what models were the other makes.. top of the range or base models?

ie. Swift Sport, Maz 2 Genki, Yaris YRX... which are the top ones for the other makes.

the swift was a sport and i think the other 2 were just the standard models, i know the yaris was only a yr.

oh and the vti-s we drove did have foggies, but it may just be an optional accesory as i havent read the info package i got

[SPQR]

Pics still arent working!!!

What pics? There are no pics. Have I missed something important?

[donkeykwong]

Could you Re-up the pics on image shack please?

Thanks

[kongfu]

watch this, comparison of compact eco cars

http://www.tudou.com/player/player.swf?iid=13287819

incl 1st gen vs 2nd gen

he said Swift sport is the best!

[Slow_Dan]

seems like the new jazz doesnt do quite well on the track, a 5th placing doesnt look convincing at all :(

would improvements in interior / exterior make customers want to buy the new jazz, or are they after performance & handling?

[BiLL|z0r]

We might be after a bit of performance but I dare say 90% of the Jazz buyers are after a small economical relicable car and if it looks nice then it better than the competition.

[fundies]

Why was the swift a manual (in video), while the others were all cvt/auto. Not fair. Old VTI-S still impressively quick.

[kelvinthai]

coz swift sports only come in manual.

The Old Vtis lose in stright road but that can be address easily but just changing the header and a few other parts. I heard the new jazz header cant be change. correct me if i am wrong. But yeah i didnt expect that few kw difference to make such a big diff in straight line.

[kongfu]

GD3 still better according to so many reviews

[BiLL|z0r]

Looks basically the same as before then.

[Nax]

ya they were saying that they werent going to change it much, they were hoping they could even lower it a bit but sall good in the end. good idea having the saftey pack, that way if u want the smaller engine u dont have to sacrifice on airbags and display. not long to go now!

[marcoardeno]

hey btw how many kgs the vti-s auto weigh? and is it made in japan or thailand?

[Nax]

tailand, basically most of honda is made there now with the exception of a couple models.

wieght not released on the teaser brochures, sorry

[95331140]

Wonder how the 5sp Auto will compare to the current CVT.

The current CVT rocks, if you know how to treat it!

[SPEEDCORE]

good idea having the saftey pack, that way if u want the smaller engine u dont have to sacrifice on airbags and display.

Yeah... very true! :thumbsup:

[bobioso]

Looks basically the same as before then.

If the pricing is correct, this means that VTI is now $1k more expensive. Seems a bit too high, because despite having more air-bags in the VTI, the difference between GLI SP and VTI is still over 2k for basically identical car (except the engine). The old Jazz VTI had much nicer interior (+ cool mirrors) in addition to a bigger engine. Looks like Honda wants to push more people to 1.3 .

Can you also post the accessories pricing, at least for the rear spoilers (as VTI-S doesn't come with one, despite the price increase :( )

Bottom line: 1.3 GLI SP = BEST VALUE

[dyljoy]

ya. bobioso, i agree with u, it seems 1.3 GLI SP is the best value in the all range.

[SPEEDCORE]

Looks like Honda wants to push more people to 1.3 .


Possibly..... but the target market that the jazz is directed at, plus the way things are with fuel costs, cost of living etc etc. I think people looking for cars in this segment would generally start to gravitate towards the 1.3 anyways....

[BusterSonic12]

Pics dont work anymore :-/

2x :eek:

[bobioso]

2x :eek:

With a bit of reverse engineering here is the link to the photos:

http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k210/VTEChnique/2009%20JAZZ/

[95331140]

Thanks for the pics bobioso.

No fog lights on the VTi-S (or RS version) is crap. A bit of cost cutting there.

And the indicator lights on the fender..another step backwards.

Maybe its a bit of clever marketing for upcoming facelifts??

[SPEEDCORE]

Maybe its a bit of clever marketing for upcoming facelifts??

One would assume so..... quick and easy facelift.

[donkeykwong]

One would assume so..... quick and easy facelift.

Does any one know if foglights would be an optional accessory?

[UNLS1]

yes they are on all models

[95331140]

I reckon the VTi-S will suck having a 5spd auto with the paddle shift..

At least with the CVT I have 7 'gears' to choose from. I'm never caught in the wrong gear.

[beaugus]

Any chance of getting the photos hosted else ware? Seems like the bandwidth has been exceeded every ware. Looks like a great update to the Jazz any way from what I've seen and heard.

I've got a black VTI-S pre-sold on order for myself to replace my current Jazz.

[Nax]

u know u can go online and google it to get pics, or ur local dealer should have some now, it will be in showrooms in two days anyways so u could probably hold ur breath lol

[SPEEDCORE]

Nax... is it just a able to see it and order on the 15th? Or can you put cash down and drive away in one starting from the 15th (if they have one ready that is)?

[Nax]

on show from the 15th, drive away the 29th, im sure if u did it right u could probably have one a lil before that but it would cost u.

[UNLS1]

I reckon the VTi-S will suck having a 5spd auto with the paddle shift..

At least with the CVT I have 7 'gears' to choose from. I'm never caught in the wrong gear.

lol 7 gears is rubbish, they do nothing if u dont change using the paddels it changes for you anyway!

its called grade logic that stops gear hunting in the 5spd

5 spd PWNS cvt anyday of the week!
cvt = most boring trans ever!

[Nax]

ya i found the whole 7 "gears" thing a bit wierd, they put in the jumping feeling just so people would know it was changing on them lol. i find that funny.

[95331140]

cvt = most boring trans ever!

For people who are not mechanically minded, yes it is boring. It's the best transmission I've come across.


lol 7 gears is rubbish, they do nothing if u dont change using the paddels it changes for you anyway!

This is what makes the previous CVT transmission so good! It gives me 3 different modes to choose from.


its called grade logic that stops gear hunting in the 5spd

I don't want the car driving me. I want to drive it myself. Another technology invented for the noob drivers.


5 spd PWNS cvt anyday of the week!

5spd what? You do realise there is now a 5spd auto and 5spd manual...

Anyway, at the end of the day, I'd still rather a standard manual transmission, however having a wife is full of compromises and the CVT helped alleviate my passion of driving manual.

[95331140]

they put in the jumping feeling just so people would know it was changing on them lol. i find that funny.

I don't think they would engineer the CVT to be jerky on manual changes. Isn't the aim of any automotive manufacturer to make the changes as smooth as possible??

[donkeykwong]

lol 7 gears is rubbish, they do nothing if u dont change using the paddels it changes for you anyway!

its called grade logic that stops gear hunting in the 5spd

5 spd PWNS cvt anyday of the week!
cvt = most boring trans ever!

So with the paddle shift and the normal 5sp auto, will you still be able to shift up and down gears when you are in D, kind of like a semi-automatic transmission?

[95331140]

So with the paddle shift and the normal 5sp auto, will you still be able to shift up and down gears when you are in D, kind of like a semi-automatic transmission?

That's what I'll assume it will be.

I guess we'll have to wait and see how it drives once it is available for a test drive.

[Nax]

I don't think they would engineer the CVT to be jerky on manual changes. Isn't the aim of any automotive manufacturer to make the changes as smooth as possible??


if u think about it, its just a strap on a pully, and the pully moves depending on the speed to change the "gear" why would their be any jerking?

i was told they put it in as people were creeped out by the smoothness

[95331140]

if u think about it, its just a strap on a pully, and the pully moves depending on the speed to change the "gear" why would their be any jerking?

Umm yes, I do know how a CVT works.
You've got to be kidding me. So your still saying Honda has engineering jerkyness into their transmission to please their customers...please stop with the BS.


i was told they put it in as people were creeped out by the smoothness

Told by the fairy god mother yeah?

[800ZR]

thinking of trading my DC2R for this new jazz... anyone know wheres a good place to start searching for Mugen kit!?

[dyljoy]

Are u looking for real one or fake? if looking for real one, u can ask some of ozhonda's trader here.

[800ZR]

both, just want to check out the prices, etc.

[MrTypeR]

They do look pretty cool, will be better to see them in the flesh though !

[UNLS1]

For people who are not mechanically minded, yes it is boring. It's the best transmission I've come across.



This is what makes the previous CVT transmission so good! It gives me 3 different modes to choose from.



I don't want the car driving me. I want to drive it myself. Another technology invented for the noob drivers.



5spd what? You do realise there is now a 5spd auto and 5spd manual...

Anyway, at the end of the day, I'd still rather a standard manual transmission, however having a wife is full of compromises and the CVT helped alleviate my passion of driving manual.

i ment 5spd auto. i know this coz ive driven. id also take manual in jazz anyday!

[Nax]

Umm yes, I do know how a CVT works.
You've got to be kidding me. So your still saying Honda has engineering jerkyness into their transmission to please their customers...please stop with the BS.



Told by the fairy god mother yeah?

holy crap dude take a chill pill. theres no reason to flame.

i was told by someone who works in honda, that they had done that. stop being a wanker, if its wrong its wrong im just going by wat someone told me

[Tofu]

hmm...does anyone actually like that blue?? i think that blue is yuck!
looks like Holden Astra SRi blue...
what colour is that?? Vivid Blue pearl?

[SPEEDCORE]

Nah no way is it the same blue as your DC5 Tofu...

[SPQR]

hmm...does anyone actually like that blue?? i think that blue is yuck!
looks like Holden Astra SRi blue...
what colour is that?? Vivid Blue pearl?

It's not Vivid Blue Pearl (beautiful colour that was) it's "Seasick Blue Hurl"!

[95331140]

i was told by someone who works in honda, that they had done that. stop being a wanker, if its wrong its wrong im just going by wat someone told me

Unless this "someone" is in the engineering department of Honda Japan, then I refuse to believe it. Simple.

[Nax]

can u think of a reason why in an auto transmission with no actual switching between gears should be jumpy?

anyways

[nb444]

cant wait for the pricing

[donkeykwong]

I cant wait to see what options there are.

[Tofu]

It's not Vivid Blue Pearl (beautiful colour that was) it's "Seasick Blue Hurl"!

I TOTALLY AGREE!!!
I saw one parked at my local dealership and I refused to believe that something as simple as a colour can turn me off a car i loved so much before it launched.

[SPEEDCORE]

Woke up hoping HONDA.AU website would be changed..... nope :(

[beaugus]

Woke up hoping HONDA.AU website would be changed..... nope :(

Same here, except I was up till midnight hoping I could catch it then :p I went to my Honda dealer yesterday hoping the new Jazz's would be hiding some ware out back unfortunately not. I did however managed to take home one of Honda's advertising packages for the new Jazz.

It really is marketed towards women I think or highly feminine men because the pack contains Garnier body tonic and wipes, awsome little Jazz lollies and the product flyer.

[Tofu]

I totally don't understand why they need to directly market towards women. Women love the Jazz already, and I would hazard a guess that most of the Jazz buyers are women. 10 of my friends who owns a Jazz 8 of them are girls.

I think for those guys that genuinely wanted the new Jazz may be put off from their new marketing direction. Honda fans would understand that the Jazz is a nice car, so when they see a male driving the new Jazz they wouldn't think they're "homo" but as tv ads, magazine ads appear in the marketplace with all girly connotations and imagery, those other "motor enthusiasts" who see males driving the new Jazz would think they are pansies!

[SPEEDCORE]

I'm man enough to drive a pansie car! :)

Got a test drive organised tomorrow dude... I'll let you know how I go. Think Marlys is going to do it through novated lease with another half dozen birds at her work who are also after one...
so not sure about going together for a bit of a deal.

[bobioso]

Got a test drive organised tomorrow dude... I'll let you know how I go.
OK, guys, what am I missing? There is so much info on this forum and common people (non-dealers) that have seen the car. Well, not in SA.
I spoken to a Nordic Honda dealer in Adelaide and he told me that they may have the new Jazz in the showroom on 18 Aug, but no test drives until 29 Aug. Formula Honda (also SA) claims no cars in the showroom until 29 Aug. No pricing, no prospects.
Please share your experiences from interstate.

www.behindthebush.com

[UNLS1]

lol the jazz is a chicks car for sure!

[BiLL|z0r]

I saw a truck with 2 new Jazz's on it drive past today on it's way to VonBibra Southport.

The Jazz is a car for those who don't like spending over $80 for a tank of fuel. Cost me $90 to fill the Euro and $43 to fill the Jazz with roughly the same amount of km's per tank. That's every week so Jazz = huge savings for me and will pay for itself in 5 years assuming 20% rise per year in petrol :)

[mbdownunder]

The preview magazine thing on Honda.com.au sure is aimed at women. Don't they want guys to buy the new Jazz? :confused:

Mark

[panda[cRx]]

Woke up hoping HONDA.AU website would be changed..... nope :(

http://www.hondajazz.com.au/ ?

dude they should be at your local dealer NOW (i was sitting in one 5mins ago as i'm stuck at work)
the pricing has been released too but i don't have the details in front of me

and imho the new blue is nice, it suits the car much more than vivid blue

[sassy_fit_vtit]

Personally i do think the design of the new Jazz is bit feminine, but so was the older jazz, depends on if your masculine enough to pull it off =P

[panda[cRx]]

For people who are not mechanically minded, yes it is boring. It's the best transmission I've come across.

LOOOOOOOOOL yes when they are working they're fine, not amazing but fine.
however they are the most unreliable transmission put into any honda for the last 10yrs, the last trans to be this bad was the CVT on the HRV

i believe honda was scrapped the jazz cvt for 2 reasons

- the aust market in general doesnt understand how a cvt works and are so accustomed to regular autos it just feels weird to them

- as stated above honda has spents thousands of dollars repairing and replacing cvts, whereas most of their standard autos are very good.

on an interesing note honda is apparently keeping the cvt for the japanese market which i find quite odd as all the other markets are 5AT :confused:


Personally i do think the design of the new Jazz is bit feminine, but so was the older jazz, depends on if your masculine enough to pull it off =P

as a guy that has driven both cars i much prefer the new one. it's a bit more modern looking and less grandma/girlfriend spec

[95331140]

;1850582']LOOOOOOOOOL yes when they are working they're fine, not amazing but fine.
however they are the most unreliable transmission put into any honda for the last 10yrs, the last trans to be this bad was the CVT on the HRV

Yes, very true. Looking at the other forums here for the Civic, CRV etc, no one complains about transmission problems. So I guess it will be better to save face..


;1850582'] on an interesing note honda is apparently keeping the cvt for the japanese market which i find quite odd as all the other markets are 5AT :confused:

Yeah, this was very interesting. I think the JAP drivers are much better. They have a lot more 'mechanical sympathy' than us western drivers!

[dyljoy]

got a call from dealer few days ago, and told me new VTIS auto is roughly costs 25k on road and man one 23k. and i maybe take a closer look and have testdrive later, but i don't think is good idea to buy it when it just release, not much room to bargain as it is very very new to be introduce.

[SPEEDCORE]

Just got home from driving a VTIS manual.

Initial impression from outside..... its a very good looking little car. In fact... I think it brought the bitch out in me.. I thought it was very cute :p

Initial impression from inside..... great layout, seat fabric is not too shabby, visibility is outstanding. Top glovebox lid was a bit naff (satin metal paint look). It could be just me not really having spent time in the GD... but I feel the cars narrowness, not saying its cramped, far from it with that headroom and the extended A pillar felt quite airy... just had more of a feeling that the door trim was right on my elbow/shoulder compared with other small cars, and I am far from being a big guy. Speaking of doors though.... they did close with a satisfying thunk much to my surprise.... sure its not the same thunk as a car from VW/Audi group but great for something in this class. Also.. with rear seats in their normal upright position, the boot is very deep.... and and there was a full sized alloy as a spare under that boot trim too :thumbsup:

Initial driving impression..... engine tone a bit corse (thought it would be a bit more subdued). There is no denying its a honda engine.... the thing starts to come alive bit over 4k rpm. 1st gear seemed useless, with 2nd gear being the cog that the car starts to seem more willing to accelerate nicely. Acceleration is what is to be expected in this segment, and overtaking is gonna need some well judged driving. On the highway it is quite posied, two big rigs came in the opposite direction (no centre divider on this hwy, just painted line) and car drifted a bit over with the airpressure however this was about on par with what I have experienced with a current generation Corolla which is at a guess another 200kg heavier.

As for handling, the car is VERY surefooted. Was quite nice through a few roundabouts and bends where the advisory speed was disreguarded (no I did not go over the actual indicated limit :)). While the body roll is there and you really feel the height of the car as a result as it starts to lean more, was not once concerned at a possible roll over.

The suspension feels quite firm and as such.... bumps are transfered into the cabin a fair bit together with increase in road noise and overall harshness over even slightly imperfect blacktop. I think in this respect I am being a bit too critical of this car, and need to remember that it IS an econobox at the end of the day, so a silky smooth/cloud like drive will never be acheived. I guess they could have softened the suspension up a bit to dull the sensation of the car being shook around over shithouse roads, but almost certainly at the expense of the sharp/crisp steering response.

Powersteering took a little to get used to in slow city driving, but felt good at highway speeds.

Things I am gutted about not having available; HIDs & climate control.

Overall its a great little car..... now the ball is in the lady of the house's court if she would like to have it in the garage. :) From my perspective I say yes... especially shopping in this price/car segment range, I think it would be quite hard to beat.

[joregelt]

hi

I was down at my local dealer in Melbourne this morning and took a GLI manual for a drive.
Was quite happy with the car.
The engine seems to have noticeably more power and also a deeper sound.
The car generally is better soundproofed I think, although I only got it up to about 85kmh on the Nepean Highway.

I am not sure about the interior though.
The steering wheel feels better and less plastic and cheap than the wheel on the old model GLI, but some of the other interior parts look and feel a bit cheap i think. Not sure I like the layout of the dash controls that much, and the feel of the fan and heat controls is a little odd.

Also, the "map holders" in the doors at the front are very thin and deformable. Certainly not a good idea to put too much weight in there, as they will break easily.

Having said that, visibility is great, and drive is fine.
I was a little disappointed that there is no stability/traction control at all in the Jazz range. I think this puts it at a disadvantage to some of its competitors such as the mazda 2.

I did some quick negotiating and I am pretty sure that the car can be had for low 18's (GLI SP, manual + mats)

I think I will go back later in the week and order one.

Jo

[SPEEDCORE]

Having said that, visibility is great, and drive is fine.
I was a little disappointed that there is no stability/traction control at all in the Jazz range.

Interestingly enough..... it seems to be an option in other markets.

[dyljoy]

SPEEDCORE, which dealer u visited? and could u mind share the possible price for vtis man via PM to me? coz i may do the test drive next week, see how's going, thx

[ACE888]

As a guy you're probably more likely to be teased and jerked at driving a Yaris than the new Jazz ;)

Yaris', imo, are way tooo aimed at the female species.

[SPEEDCORE]

SPEEDCORE, which dealer u visited? and could u mind share the possible price for vtis man via PM to me? coz i may do the test drive next week, see how's going, thx

No price yet... was not even really allowed to drive it till sometime next week according to what a couple of the sales people told me Honda HQ had instructed. Also they seemed to have misplaced the pricing and options list so I was not able to check out what was available in that respect. I personally think they had just taken delivery of these cars and were not really ready to sell, but were happy to show people the new Jazz on the down low.


As a guy you're probably more likely to be jerked driving a Yaris than the new Jazz ;)

I may need to reconsider getting the Jazz if that is the case. :)

[panda[cRx]]

i don't see how anybody could buy a yaris after sitting in one. it's the cheapest ugliest interior i've ever seen.

[Tofu]

hahah Speedcore, you've mellowed out in your "old" age...hehe

thanks for the review....I think I have given the new Jazz the flick..I might consider the CR-V instead. I can't get over how girly this new Jazz is...(unless I can get my hands on the Mugen bodykit)

[jumz]

anyone know if these are built in thailand like the fds and the new accord?

[Nax]

use the search tool its been asked

most hondas come out of tailand now with the exception of a couple

[kongfu]

hahah Speedcore, you've mellowed out in your "old" age...hehe

thanks for the review....I think I have given the new Jazz the flick..I might consider the CR-V instead. I can't get over how girly this new Jazz is...(unless I can get my hands on the Mugen bodykit)

+1 GE is too girly for me as well.

unless spend big $ for mugen kit.

[Bobjones]

I went and saw this in the dealership today, the upspec'd one with mags etc (I was there picking up my Euro Luxury) and have to say it looks like a pretty cool car!!!

[800ZR]

it cant be that girlie can it? does any spec of the GE comes with leather seats?

[VT3C]

VSA is standard in the Japaneese Domestic Market for Japanese-manufactured Fits.. Asian-market (and other world markets) only get the non-VSA model like ours :(

RIP CVT.. like '95331140' said, in my opinion it was a great transmission offering me 3 different modes for my different moods.. the reasoning behind the AUS-spec models having no CVT is (As correctly stated) the aussie market just cant understand how the CVT works and ARE quite often put off by the way it works. JDM market though gets the new 'i-Shift' technology however I havnt looked into it as yet.

I'd expect VSA, wing-mirror indicaters, Cruise control and the LED tail lights to feature on the facelift model in a couple of years :D

[Jazzle]

hi :), i have done abit of searching... but can anyone precisely tell me the differences between a VTi and a Vti-s... i know the bumpers are different, and vti-s comes with sideskirt, cruise control, side and curtain air bag, 16" alloy, ... what else am i missing??

also can anyone show me a pic of the rear of vti.. coz i have seen a lot of pic of the vti-s rear bumper but never can find one for the vti.. does it look fugly or soemthing? LOL HAHA

[Nax]

ur on the money jazzle, diff bumpers and chrome exhaust tip, cruise, black interiour instead of blue/black, airbags and alloys, thats about all (and of course 1.5 vs gli 1.3)

the rear bumper of the vti is identical to the gli, only the vti-s sports the differnt one.

[donkeykwong]

dont forget paddle shift for the auto VTI-S

[Jazzle]

thanx for the clear up guys :)

so is the steering wheel on the vti leather-trimmed??

[Nax]

yes indeed

[sassy_fit_vtit]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/11376/2009-honda-jazz-in-new-york/

Here are a couple of pics of the US Version

[redmugenjazz]

so how's the power figures? are there any improvement from the gd3's

[bobioso]

Here are a couple of pics of the US Version

Here is AutoBlog review of Honda Fit Sport 2009. Sat nav, ESP. Sweet.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/20/ab-first-drive-2009-honda-fit-sport/

[magii]

the wheels seem bigger too, whats the tyres size on the 16s?

[abupu]

New's just got announced today.

http://www.pressportal.com.au/news/427/ARTICLE/2965/2008-08-28.html

[dyljoy]

thx for your news

[donkeykwong]

car advice first steer

http://www.caradvice.com.au/16025/2009-honda-jazz-first-steer/

[dyljoy]

hi, just took the testdrive for VTI man this afternoon. What i feel is quite impressive as small car to drive. Downside is lack of some features which other nations can provide, such as VSA, climate control, sunroof. But I will get one in near furture if i can get the right price.

[spoon_civ]

Picked up my vti today! Now needs some wheels and a kit.

[dyljoy]

Congratulation, what rim u wanna get? 16" or 17"? show us some pic when ur kit on!

[spoon_civ]

prob just go wif 16s. 17 too big. ...thinking g games 57 maximum. in the gunmetal blue or if i can source a set of the black ones. having trouble attaching pics to the link..adjusted size already and still cant post!!

[dyljoy]

do u try flickr.com, i always use it for posting the pic here

[dyljoy]

G GAME with gunmetal is nice choice, buddy

prob just go wif 16s. 17 too big. ...thinking g games 57 maximum. in the gunmetal blue or if i can source a set of the black ones. having trouble attaching pics to the link..adjusted size already and still cant post!!

[spoon_civ]

Here's some pics hope this works.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2807549417_9d4e5d1e58.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3100/2807549297_3049e3e109.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2807549355_c74e758c9c.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2807549395_24570340e4.jpg?v=0

[dyljoy]

it doesn't work for me.

[dyljoy]

i can see the pic now, can't wait to see ur new ride with mugen kit later

[Ikaros]

the new site is up finally =D
http://jazz.honda.com.au/

[kNetz]

that cobalt blue is looking gun

[dyljoy]

ya, I saw this colour of jazz today in real life, it looks great

[scotch]

Under the About the Car > Exterior section, it says that foglights are standard on VTI-S. Is this a typo? It doesn't say so in the spec sheets.

[dyljoy]

i think foglight only just a option for new jazz

[Lock & Load]

They want $500.00 for fog lights fitted to my VTI-S :thumbdwn:i am going to get aftermarket ones and fit them myself :) save $$$$$

Getting our ride delivered on Wednesday ;).

Cheers
Michael

[dyljoy]

oh, very nice, what colour u getting? would u mind pm me what price u paid ur ride totally, coz i am in the market atm, thanks

[Lock & Load]

Colour is Tabbeta White , they were pretty though on the price did not want to negotiate paid $26,500 its no bargain but i couldnt be bothered waiting for the next shipment :)

We also decided to keep our 05 Vivid blue pearl VTI-S and pass it down to one off our sons ;) so we have 2 Jazzes in the household :cool: doing my bit to minimize carbon emmisions .lol lol .

I say this tounge in cheek as my rotary RX8 and my sons RX7 are the opposite total fuel bandits .

Cheers
Michael

[dyljoy]

woo, what a good jazz's family!

[Nax]

ya power is up by about 7kw to 88kw in the vti/s and 73 in the gli

if ur after any more info just go into ur local dealer and ask for a brochure

[redmugenjazz]

nice car spoon_civ how much is the price for a new kit?.

[040501912]

im getting a new jazz

can any 1 post up their quoatted price? before i got ripped off by dealers?

GLi??
VTI??
VTI-S??

Some how the small car class is hard to define.. my hearts goes to mazda2 rather than jazz.. since it had the DSC and jazz is none and more pricey than mazda2. well other was yaris but doesnt look appealing for me LOL!!

suggestion?

Thanks :D

[Fit1500_GD3]

My car J's Racing FIT.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1315.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1298.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1322.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1332.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1338.jpg

[dyljoy]

nice jazz u have, mate. i don't understand how come Thai local market's new jazz got so much extra features than ours which also made by Thai, why why why

[spoon_civ]

Fit1500_GD3 Did you import your's from japan? I'm sure the thai market jazz's didn't come out in yellow.

[spoon_civ]

nice car spoon_civ how much is the price for a new kit?.

I'll see how much it will add up to once it gets here lol.......

[800ZR]

nice pics civ! got a question, i am not good with AVs... but is it possible to change the Headunit on the new jazz?!

[dyljoy]

i think is possible, just like new civic did, once japan honda's jazz parts avaliable, u can change the headunit part to GPS unit part, then u can chane 2din aftermaret player or 1 din player.

[spoon_civ]

yeah u can change it. Just need to buy the jap double din face, cos the aus spec radio is the is whole bit in the middle of the dash. Wont be able to use your buttons on the steering wheel though after u change it.

[redmugenjazz]

that's the biggest sun/moon roof i've ever seen Fit1500_GD3, is that stock? the sunroof ofcourse.

[spoon_civ]

Yeah thats an option overseas that we dont get.......

[donkeykwong]

yeah, moonroof and climate control! big misses for honda australia

[dyljoy]

don't forget the indicator light on the side mirror as well

[Zimp13]

im getting a new jazz

can any 1 post up their quoatted price? before i got ripped off by dealers?

GLi??
VTI??
VTI-S??

Some how the small car class is hard to define.. my hearts goes to mazda2 rather than jazz.. since it had the DSC and jazz is none and more pricey than mazda2. well other was yaris but doesnt look appealing for me LOL!!

suggestion?

Thanks :D

jazz looks the best among all small cars.... thats just me

[EK9]

how much nicer is the front bar/foggies on this US model!

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/09-fit-first-drive-1280-06_opt.jpg

[gt322]

Why the interior is different to the JDM Fit RS as named Vti-S here? :(
the Jazz's interior here looks ... sh*t
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Dorafy/Fit.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/Dorafy/AuJazz.jpg

[EK9]

cos losing all that stuff probably cuts down the cost of the car.

plus, do we ever expect to get all the jdm goodness? dammit.

[800ZR]

don't forget the indicator light on the side mirror as well

damn, this really pissed me off... say if those indicator is included in the next face lift, how hard isit to change them over?

[EK9]

i reckon u should be able to source the jdm ones then wire them up. no need to wait for facelift - which would be at least 2 years away.

[040501912]

jsut get the side mirrors from the asian markets.
and take notice that the us still comes with the DRUM rear!

Compare to us have Disc Rear :P
everything is according to the market! but too bad we can get the big moon roof like others DAMN!! i love that moon roof!

the din facia. as usual just get an aftermarket DOUBLE din touch screen gps head unit and change to 2 din! lol!

[Fizz]

specs are all market dependent. as it is, the jazz vti-s here is already pretty pricey for a small car. if they added all the nice stuff from the jdm versions our vti-s would probably be similar price to a civic vti-l.

[dyljoy]

040501912, I am very happy to see u got ur new Jazz with very good price, u make me want a VTIS man over VTI man now, hehe, but i want put mugen kit on it, so i still need to have a deep think about it.

[Fit1500_GD3]

In my car.....:p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1327.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1324.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1333.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1334.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1338.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1343.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1315.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/ek1800/FIT%20Js/IMG_1298.jpg

[dyljoy]

very nice, mate, i hope our version same as urs, but not gonna happen in short period...

[Lock & Load]

Picked up our white VTI-S yesterday i will try and post picks and a quick review soon .


Cheers
Michael

[Zimp13]

Picked up our white VTI-S yesterday i will try and post picks and a quick review soon .


Cheers
Michael

manual or auto???? mind pm me the price u got the jazz for??? thk u

[Lock & Load]

The car is an Auto its driven 99% by the wife , thre wasnt much room for negotiation but got it for $26,500 . on road .

Cheers
Michael

[dyljoy]

Congratulation, what colour mate, and where are u locate

[Lock & Load]

Taffeta White , on the Goldcoast :thumbsup:

[040501912]

i have to wait for my Taffeta White for 3-4 weeks.. they have to order it first!! ARGH!!! and its manual...

they dont make any manual on the Taffeta White VTIS on the september delivery =.=...

or i got too choose yellow.. hard choice..

[dyljoy]

stick with white, man. it always the best choice. it worths to wait for another 3-4 wks, hehe

[Lock & Load]

i have to wait for my Taffeta White for 3-4 weeks.. they have to order it first!! ARGH!!! and its manual...

they dont make any manual on the Taffeta White VTIS on the september delivery =.=...

or i got too choose yellow.. hard choice..

Resale value of yellow cars is poor in the long term :thumbdwn:, wait for the white :thumbsup:

[040501912]

Resale value of yellow cars is poor in the long term :thumbdwn:, wait for the white :thumbsup:

thanks for the input mate. YES thats WAHT exactly i was thinking about the yellow colour!!

or BLACK! would be nice.. but cant see carbon fibre :P and limited to VIP look :( hard decision lol

[kongfu]

if its yellow go for js racing mod style.

white go for mugen style

black go for VIP style

[Lock & Load]

Dont get me wrong i love the Jazz i know have 2 in the family a 05 VTI-S Auto and the current one , however if i wanted a go hard car in manual i would go for the .IMHO

.............VW GOLF GTI .....especially for you younger guys , yes its slightly more expensive but its a great performance car , and theres some great deals to be had as a new model is due to replace it soon .............. if only my wife could drive manual .hmmmmmm


Cheers
Michael

[040501912]

Yes!! ive been looking at the GOLF gti and the Polo GTi even test drive the polo.. its small and not quiet practical.

test drive Mazda2 Genki.. not what i expected from the small car. and non the less did tried the XR4 ford.. it was quick LOL!!

i would get the golf gti but money not in good conditions.. soo :( can not

[dyljoy]

Good thinking, mate!

if its yellow go for js racing mod style.

white go for mugen style

black go for VIP style

[kongfu]

Good thinking, mate!

new GE Jazz is nice with more modern looking IMO, but GD3 looks more slim:D

Will modify in the end of the day!:thumbsup:

[dyljoy]

Ya, they all good looking cars, and result will vary depend on owner's taste.:P

[FitRS]

Not sure if these have been posted yet. Some pics of the Mugen mod.

http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_02568.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_02568.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_03753.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_03753.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_04603.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_04603.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_05389.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_05389.jpg)

[redmugenjazz]

the wing looks like the factory spoilers on the 02-04 gd3's but it a wing not a spoiler.

[kongfu]

Not sure if these have been posted yet. Some pics of the Mugen mod.

http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_02568.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_02568.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_03753.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_03753.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_04603.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_04603.jpg)http://xs231.xs.to/xs231/08391/mugen_f154sc_05389.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs231&d=08391&f=mugen_f154sc_05389.jpg)


The issue is $$$ and are you willing to pay?so far I know only one mate in Sydney bought genuine mugen full kit for his GD3 JAZZ:wave:

[dyljoy]

look hot!!!

[redmugenjazz]

The issue is $$$ and are you willing to pay?so far I know only one mate in Sydney bought genuine mugen full kit for his GD3 JAZZ:wave:

reckon,anything with 'mugen' on it cost a fortune

[dyljoy]

Totally agree! "Mugen" ---- HONDA's LV or GUCCI..... haha

[FitRS]

While I think the full set would be an "investment" partial sets are still achievable.

The link for japanese site is here:
http://www.mugen-power.com/street/fit/ :honda:

[kongfu]

While I think the full set would be an "investment" partial sets are still achievable.

The link for japanese site is here:
http://www.mugen-power.com/street/fit/ :honda:

ask yourself whether you wanna pay for it first.

I seriously doubt about it.

[Zimp13]

While I think the full set would be an "investment" partial sets are still achievable.

The link for japanese site is here:
http://www.mugen-power.com/street/fit/ :honda:

investment without return... kakaka

[MRFIT]

those LED taillights will become standard on the facelifted model.... :)

[kongfu]

investment without return... kakaka

+1 not investment at all its burning money:D:thumbsup:

[kongfu]

those LED taillights will become standard on the facelifted model.... :)

For sure and LED side mirrors. You know what joey in China LED side mirrors come as standard:p Stupid Oz model:thumbdwn:

[FitRS]

+1 not investment at all its burning money:D:thumbsup:

"Investments" of vanity that's all it would be. :D Such is the problem with cars. Oh well.

This looks decent (much like a VTiS if you're not into over the top racy mods.)

http://www.mugen-power.com/street/fit/parts/image/img2.jpg

Technically you could go GLi or VTi and get StylingSet:
フロントアンダースポイラー/ サイドスポイラー / リアアンダースポイラーの3点セット。
Front Under Spoiler / Side Spoiler / Rear Under Spoiler 3 point set

for ￥145,950 which is 1,653.10 AUD (+ shipping) and still come out ahead of the VTiS price in Aus.

[kongfu]

"Investments" of vanity that's all it would be. :D Such is the problem with cars. Oh well.

This looks decent (much like a VTiS if you're not into over the top racy mods.)

http://www.mugen-power.com/street/fit/parts/image/img2.jpg

Technically you could go GLi or VTi and get StylingSet:
フロントアンダースポイラー/ サイドスポイラー / リアアンダースポイラーの3点セット。
Front Under Spoiler / Side Spoiler / Rear Under Spoiler 3 point set

for ￥145,950 which is 1,653.10 AUD (+ shipping) and still come out ahead of the VTiS price in Aus.

shipping will cost you 1k alone :cool:

[FitRS]

shipping will cost you 1k alone :cool:

Probably! At least you have a unique look. :car::camera::)

[kongfu]

Probably! At least you have a unique look. :car::camera::)

Go for it instead of dreaming:cool:

[dyljoy]

or wait for replica later

[redmugenjazz]

or wait for replica later

agree, replicas just lok the same once painted, problem is some work needs to be put into drilling holes for brakcets, sanding here and there etc. well at least u save like half the genuine price

[dyljoy]

ya, so just pick one of them, they are all looking good with new jazz!

[spoon_civ]

speaking of replica's here's mine.....
all mugen RS kit cept back. like the L/G one more.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/2893870463_45b7ddf1d3_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/2894712958_4f52e73a1a_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/2894712982_109f5fd42e_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2894713010_7dc7309baf_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2893870573_f232b811d8_m.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/2893870605_27f6712c71_m.jpg

[dyljoy]

it looks awesome!! is it easy to fit? u got pm!

[spoon_civ]

better pics of the jazz
http://photos3.hi5.com/0060/100/782/RYDXpM100782-02.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2894229897_be8b48f3eb.jpg?v=0
http://photos2.hi5.com/0058/486/049/XVHEF5486049-02.jpg

need some new wheels now

[dyljoy]

nice, and put some new wheels and lower it a bit will complete!

[spoon_civ]

yeah still trying to source some gram lights 57 maximum

[FitRS]

Nice work bro looking great. You going for additional decals or looking to keep it clean and badgeless?

[dyljoy]

I think keep it clean should be great

[spoon_civ]

yeah keep it clean.........need to get the car tinted first lol.

[Dreams]

nice, you are the first one to mod the new jazz. fitment is great for a replica heh.

[FitRS]

Yeah. I'd say he's first in Aus to get the mods. I've seen a few new Jazz's zipping around. They look really nice. I wasn't a fan of the old Yellow, but the new Yellow is quite a stand out.

[kongfu]

Yeah. I'd say he's first in Aus to get the mods. I've seen a few new Jazz's zipping around. They look really nice. I wasn't a fan of the old Yellow, but the new Yellow is quite a stand out.

i dont like yellow unless its genuine RS.

yellow looks like banana and cab:(

[dyljoy]

and also according the sales told me, the yellow one is very hard to sell atm.

[spoon_civ]

Yellow was my second choice after white. I really dont mind the yellow one either.
Yeah for a replica kit the fitment is actually quite good.

[bobioso]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/16880/2008-honda-jazz-vti-s-review

In a case you missed, here is a comparison test from Drive.com.au: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=56780&vf=7

**edit: no selling (i.e. promoting your book)***

[040501912]

Where did u get the body kit!! I wan1 :p

[dyljoy]

pm him, bro, i want get a set as well, he told me if i can get more ppl join as group buy, it cost much cheaper.

[fundies]

Finally took a look at the new Jazz on the weekend. Just me or did anyone else notice that the plastics are getting cheaper looking on the interior all the time ?
Also, I would rule out the new model on one problem alone, that being front passenger lack of leg room. My 15 year old sons knees were virtually hitting the glove box, and with the seat fully back, that then gives no leg room to people sitting behind. A big step back imo. Personally I dont like the more angular look of the car as well, but that may grow on me. I've heard some crap from Honda saying that they dropped the CVT because it was "endlessly noisy". I love my cvt to death, and has to be one of the smoothest gearboxes I've used on a small car. Another backwards step by Mr. Honda.

[FitRS]

Finally took a look at the new Jazz on the weekend. Just me or did anyone else notice that the plastics are getting cheaper looking on the interior all the time ?
Also, I would rule out the new model on one problem alone, that being front passenger lack of leg room. My 15 year old sons knees were virtually hitting the glove box, and with the seat fully back, that then gives no leg room to people sitting behind. A big step back imo. Personally I dont like the more angular look of the car as well, but that may grow on me. I've heard some crap from Honda saying that they dropped the CVT because it was "endlessly noisy". I love my cvt to death, and has to be one of the smoothest gearboxes I've used on a small car. Another backwards step by Mr. Honda.

You're not alone with your impressions of the new Jazz.

The interior plastics look cheap and is cheap. It will wear faster due to sun damage and scratching. I think healthy constant application of Scotch Guard will assist in preserving it.

Your son sounds like he is a reasonably tall lad? While the leg space in the Jazz is small, I personally didn't find the passenger seat to be constricting.

The CVT was dropped for all but the VTiS. It's a real shame. Another selling point for the old Jazz. This is Honda Australia :honda: deciding not to give this feature to Australians as the Japanese model has CVT as an option across the range. It's a real pain as it forces you to buy the VTiS at the higher price point, which is just body kit, trim plus CVT.

As for the angular look. I really love it. I think the body of the new Jazz is the biggest selling point as well as the colours. It's a shame the rest of it bar the engine is not the same quality.

Having said that, it's still a good car, not quite reaching it's potential but I think if you did buy it, you wouldn't be regretting your decision. Keep in mind there are a lot of options for the subcompact market which can be less expensive.

[FitRS]

Some pics of mods the thai guys have done. Some pretty neat stuff. :thumbsup:

http://www.jdm-th.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=fb45c8dac1faef83223efa96ef2319 e3&topic=1021.0

[fundies]

Fit RS. I'd definitely still consider buying one, but I'm not going to part with my 05 Jap made VTI for quite a few years yet :) Are you sure the VTI-S still has CVT ? I thought it was a 5 speed auto like the rest of the lineup. Cheers.

[nabsie]

You're not alone with your impressions of the new Jazz.

The interior plastics look cheap and is cheap. It will wear faster due to sun damage and scratching. I think healthy constant application of Scotch Guard will assist in preserving it.

Your son sounds like he is a reasonably tall lad? While the leg space in the Jazz is small, I personally didn't find the passenger seat to be constricting.

The CVT was dropped for all but the VTiS. It's a real shame. Another selling point for the old Jazz. This is Honda Australia :honda: deciding not to give this feature to Australians as the Japanese model has CVT as an option across the range. It's a real pain as it forces you to buy the VTiS at the higher price point, which is just body kit, trim plus CVT.

As for the angular look. I really love it. I think the body of the new Jazz is the biggest selling point as well as the colours. It's a shame the rest of it bar the engine is not the same quality.

Having said that, it's still a good car, not quite reaching it's potential but I think if you did buy it, you wouldn't be regretting your decision. Keep in mind there are a lot of options for the subcompact market which can be less expensive.

Actually none of the new Jazz's have CVT. All the auto's are 5 speed. However the VTi-S does have the paddle shift. I dont know if CVT remained on the Jap models though.

Just traded my wifes old VTi on a new VTi-S and would agree that the CVT from old was great due to being so smooth but without the CVT the car certainly has better pick up off the line making it a bit more "zippy". Takes a bit of getting used to going from CVT to traditional auto though.

Interior has certainly got reduced plastic quality but looking after it will probably be the key.

Why did they not keep the flat floor in the rear!?!? The flat floor was great.

New rear head rests are a vast improvement from the old.

Driver visibility is also vastly improved.

Stereo is damn good for stock.

The overall build quality seems improved also as when you close the door it close with a very solid thump for a small car. Not like the old one which sounded a bit hollow.

The new more angular shape looks fantastic, bit more aggressive.

16 inch rims on the VTi-S as standard is great also.

10 cup holders is a bit of a play, serious over kill but still an improvement from old.

The drivers side wing mirror is also a bit fish eyed which makes it hard determining how far the traffic is away though this would just take some getting used to.

All in all it is a much better car then the old I feel.

Get One! (I dont work for honda) :cool:

[FitRS]

Fit RS. I'd definitely still consider buying one, but I'm not going to part with my 05 Jap made VTI for quite a few years yet :) Are you sure the VTI-S still has CVT ? I thought it was a 5 speed auto like the rest of the lineup. Cheers.

Apologies for the confusion. See below.


Actually none of the new Jazz's have CVT. All the auto's are 5 speed. However the VTi-S does have the paddle shift. I dont know if CVT remained on the Jap models though.

Yes, thanks for the correction. I confused Paddle Shift with CVT.. :o

The Japanese still has CVT, unfortunately I'm not fluent, but enough to muddle through the spec list.
http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08413/fit_cvt526.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs432&d=08413&f=fit_cvt526.jpg)



Just traded my wifes old VTi on a new VTi-S and would agree that the CVT from old was great due to being so smooth but without the CVT the car certainly has better pick up off the line making it a bit more "zippy". Takes a bit of getting used to going from CVT to traditional auto though.

Interior has certainly got reduced plastic quality but looking after it will probably be the key.

Why did they not keep the flat floor in the rear!?!? The flat floor was great.

New rear head rests are a vast improvement from the old.

Driver visibility is also vastly improved.

Stereo is damn good for stock.

The overall build quality seems improved also as when you close the door it close with a very solid thump for a small car. Not like the old one which sounded a bit hollow.

The new more angular shape looks fantastic, bit more aggressive.

16 inch rims on the VTi-S as standard is great also.

10 cup holders is a bit of a play, serious over kill but still an improvement from old.

The drivers side wing mirror is also a bit fish eyed which makes it hard determining how far the traffic is away though this would just take some getting used to.

All in all it is a much better car then the old I feel.

Get One! (I dont work for honda) :cool:

The car has plenty of zip to it. I'm driving a 2.0L car at the moment and the VTi is more responsive in acceleration and handling.

I found the rear head rests a little stiff for my neck.

The fish-eye side mirror is cool, it gives plenty of visual for the side. Once you're used to it, it will be a handy safety tool.

I agree, it's still a good buy. I will be waiting for the revision though cause no moolah at the moment.

[fundies]

If left in CVT mode, definitely doesn't feel that zippy, especially off the mark, but most of the time I just leave it in 7 speed "Auto" mode, which makes it a completely different car to drive, very zippy off the mark I find.

[nabsie]

If left in CVT mode, definitely doesn't feel that zippy, especially off the mark, but most of the time I just leave it in 7 speed "Auto" mode, which makes it a completely different car to drive, very zippy off the mark I find.

I think there is some serious confusion about what CVT is.

CVT is not the ability to change gears manually on the steering wheel. This is paddle shift/tip tronic/sports auto. Call it what you wish but it certainly isn't CVT.

CVT = Continuously Variable Transmission

Read Link for more info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_variable_transmission

[FitRS]

Thanks for the link. A good read. I did not know Da Vinci was the originator. :eek:

I'm only just getting in to cars at this level.. been driving for years but treated cars as A->B only. Now it's $$$ :wave: and a missus :mad:

[fundies]

I think there is some serious confusion about what CVT is.

CVT is not the ability to change gears manually on the steering wheel. This is paddle shift/tip tronic/sports auto. Call it what you wish but it certainly isn't CVT.

CVT = Continuously Variable Transmission

Read Link for more info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_variable_transmission

Nabsie, do your homework son :) CVT Jazzes in the VTI/ VTIS (pre 08 models ) DO have paddles on the steering wheel with 7 "virtual" ratios. It can be paddle shifted or left to work as a 7 speed auto. Learn something every day hey Nabsie.

[Genotype]

Just wanted to post my comments about the new Jazz.

My wife purchased a MY06 Jazz in early 2007 so we have been driving that one for a while. I just purchased the MY09 Jazz (Gli 1.3) a few weeks ago and I really like it. There are definitely some changes from the old model that are both bad and good.

Here is my review in point form (because I'm too lazy to write sentences :) )

Bad:
- No vanity mirror on passenger side (my wife old gli has one).
- No shelf below the glove compartment on the passenger side (my wife old gli has one that we store the umbrella
- The radio/cd power button is no longer the volume button but a small one next to the cd eject. It can be confusing if you are used to the old model.
- Fuel consumption higher in the new model - To me this isn't a bad thing because its still much much much lower than my old mazda that I traded in :)
- Engine is slightly louder
- The seat trim of the old jazz is better

Good:
- Interior looks sweet :) I like how they moved the air-con controls closer to the driver.
- MP3/WMA compatible plus MP3 player outlet. My Ipod has a good run now.
- Some small compartments here and there for useful things - eg. a compartment for my phone (fits perfectly), a compartment for my garage remote control (fits perfectly), plus all the cup holders.
- The trip computer is much better. Tells you how much l/100km you do while driving (ie. a meter as well as average). Also has a range km of how long you can drive before re-fueling.
- The old gli required me to put my handbrake on when stopping on a slight incline. The engine is defintely more powerful (to me anyway).
- I love the exterior. It looks sweet

So as you can I see, I love the new MY09!

[nabsie]

Nabsie, do your homework son :) CVT Jazzes in the VTI/ VTIS (pre 08 models ) DO have paddles on the steering wheel with 7 "virtual" ratios. It can be paddle shifted or left to work as a 7 speed auto. Learn something every day hey Nabsie.

Dont wish to cause any disruption here as now we are definatly getting off topic but I never said that the pre 08 models didnt have paddle shift, just clarifying the difference between paddle shift and CVT as some less aware readers were indicating confusion.

Glad RSFit found my link of merrit.

[bobioso]

[QUOTE=Genotype;1931918]Just wanted to post my comments about the new Jazz. QUOTE]
What about ride quality? I took the old Jazz for a test drive a couple of time because I really liked it, but ride was always bumpy and IMO worse than Getz rentals I would drive every now and then.
The new one was a big improvement.
When it comes to power, it's interesting that you can feel more power in the new Jazz. I had a feeling that iDSI had more torque in low revs than 1.3 VTEC and felt similar to 1.5 in the city. But it's not bad - had the new GLi for 3 weeks and I am really happy with the car both in the city and on hilly highways.
A couple of other improvements over the old Jazz:
- 3 retractable headrests at the back seat (no need to move front seats to collapse back seats),
- way better visibility (especially side mirrors, A pillar and at the back),
- front drink holders that can be cooled with air-con air flow (unfortunately no cooled top glove department like in OS models).
- more space at the back
- the annoying lower shelf that was killing my shins (and was another deal-breaker for the purchase of the old Jazz) is gone.

All other Genotype’s comments are spot on. The quality of the seat cloth is a major step down (especially for VTi), but it looks it's going to last (it's just not nice to touch).

[turkeywing]

So does this new Jazz come with any stability control or brake distribution type system (eg EBD) ?

edit: oops, never mind :)



The downside is that Honda has not yet developed Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), it’s acronym for the all-important ESC, to work with the more powerful engines and automatic transmission so we will not see this important safety feature in the Honda Jazz in Australia in the immediate future.

[FitRS]

So does this new Jazz come with any stability control or brake distribution type system (eg EBD) ?

Nope it doesn't.

[bobioso]

Nope it doesn't.

I believe it comes with ABS + EBD (even the base GLi), but no ESP.

[FitRS]

I believe it comes with ABS + EBD (even the base GLi), but no ESP.

I'm not sure it does. I know the JDM FIT and US version does, but I can't see it anywhere on the spec list for Australian Jazz.

I think ABS is the only feature. We should check.

[2K9Jazz™]

g'day mates! consider this as my first post and also a first time Jazz owner yay! ordered the Jazz VTi last tuesday and can't wait to pick it up this coming monday :rolleyes: this'll be my first car (umm... family car i mean --> wifey's note :o ) and everyone's excited about it especially my 2 kids...

hope to learn the ins & outs from you guys on being a :honda: J:car:zzman...

:beer: to u all!

[dyljoy]

welcome mate!

[FitRS]

Welcome to the Jazz section of Oz :honda:. :wave:

[fundies]

Congrats mate, you'll love it. Its our only family car (wife and 2 tall teenagers ) and it does everything we need in a car, including the occasional long trip.

[EG5[KRT]]

pics pics pics :D

[jazzyphaye]

new jazz looks funny o.o''

i'd prefer the old one

[timofytit]

Seems really good so far, nice and comfortable, and actually looks kinda sexy. We got the sports pedals, Rear wing, and the tailored car mats as extra. The new tail lights are very nice on this model.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4390504&id=729735076#/photo.php?pid=4390504&id=729735076
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4390504&id=729735076#/photo.php?pid=4390502&id=729735076
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4390504&id=729735076#/photo.php?pid=4390505&id=729735076
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4390504&id=729735076#/photo.php?pid=4390510&id=729735076

[dyljoy]

can't see the pic, broken link?

[FitRS]

can't see the pic, broken link?

Those are Facebook links. I think you need to be logged onto Facebook to see the pictures.

[FitRS]

Seems really good so far, nice and comfortable, and actually looks kinda sexy. We got the sports pedals, Rear wing, and the tailored car mats as extra. The new tail lights are very nice on this model.

http://photos-g.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390502_1274.jpg

http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390504_2052.jpg

http://photos-b.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390505_2379.jpg

http://photos-e.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390508_3028.jpg

http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390509_3394.jpg

http://photos-g.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v345/73/122/729735076/n729735076_4390510_5450.jpg



reposted links


Very nice!

[timofytit]

Thanks, sorry about the link. Its a yellow one though. I'll have to try some other method of getting them up.

[dyljoy]

looks very nice!

[FitRS]

The stock rear wing is quite a discreet accent. Understated yet effective.

I never liked the Yellow on the 1st Gen Jazz, but yellow on this 2nd Gen Jazz is schnazzy.:thumbsup:

[95331140]

Is this yellow jazz a Series 2 of the current model?

[EG5[KRT]]

auto or manual !!! ? ? we getting yellow one too :D

[FitRS]

Looking at that tint.. it's pretty dark.. is it at defect level? :D Looks awesome though, the black pillars and dark tints create a sweet seemless look.




Is this yellow jazz a Series 2 of the current model?

This is the new MY09 Jazz http://jazz.honda.com.au/
(http://jazz.honda.com.au/)
It is Series 1 if you mean pre-facelift of Generation 2, the current model.

Or if you mean the current model as in Generation 1, yes it is Generation 2.

http://wikicars.org/en/Honda_Fit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Fit

[95331140]

You just confused me about the "New tail lights"....

Nothing new about them from what I can see...

[2K9Jazz™]

my dealer told me today that compared to the 1st Gen yellow Jazz, a lot of people are buying the yellow one from the latest 2nd Gen Jazz (i'm one of those) and also the blue ones...

oh, and one more thing... i'll post my :car:'s pix tomorrow hehehe :D




:wave: