Is it true that that 1998 HONDA ACCORD V-6L is the best so far from Honda?

Guys,

I've owned the Honda Accord V6-L since it first came out 8 years ago and paid approximately $50,000 for it at the time, it's got everything - leather interior, wood grain, power eletric everything and rides like a plane - smooth and very luxurious indeed... recently, my Wife and I decided to upgrade and went for the 2006 Honda Accord Euro... despite the various difference in looks, trend and some latest features... I have discovered that for some reason, all in all, nothing beats my 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. The V6-L rides smoother, has fair better handling and is so much roomier... although the new Accord Euro outranks in looks and has some more features inside... I personally feel for what's it's worth all all the hype... Honda's best Accord so far to this day, remains the 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. Does anyone has a similiar car, similiar experiences and thoughts... not to mention, alot of Accord Euro's have been recalled due to various faults... and the Euro's doors are so stiff, uncomfortable seats and the steering is less dynamic than the V6-L...I know it sounds hard to believe... but not all new things are better...and oh, after 1998, most of the Honda rang is assembled in Thailand not Japan anymore...so maybe this is why?

If you have any similiar thoughts, please do share this with me... my Wife is saying that I am dreaming and am too attached to my first car... but trust me, after some years driving, you can start to feel the difference... :thumbsup:

Thanks,

SW. :wave:

The Euro is designed in Britain and manufactured in Japan ;)

Note that the Euro is a sportier Accord so its ride is a bit firmer. But in saying this, I have found that the stock tyres are quite hard. I have Yoko C-Drive on my Euro now and the ride is alot smoother now :)

I have never driven any other accord so I cant comment any further, but the Euro has proven to be an excellent car for me. Sure the earlier models had a couple of issues (what car doesnt?), but the MMC 2006 model has yet to fail me at all :thumbsup: There were three rattles, but they turned out to be Sunglasses in the sunnies holder above, the rear reverse light not put back properly by the tinting dudes, and too many coins in the coin holder on the right lol

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Originally Posted by EuroDude

The Euro is designed in Britain and manufactured in Japan ;)

Note that the Euro is a sportier Accord so its ride is a bit firmer. But in saying this, I have found that the stock tyres are quite hard. I have Yoko C-Drive on my Euro now and the ride is alot smoother now :)

I have never driven any other accord so I cant comment any further, but the Euro has proven to be an excellent car for me. Sure the earlier models had a couple of issues (what car doesnt?), but the MMC 2006 model has yet to fail me at all :thumbsup: There were three rattles, but they turned out to be Sunglasses in the sunnies holder above, the rear reverse light not put back properly by the tinting dudes, and too many coins in the coin holder on the right lol

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Firstly, The Euro is a sportier accord indeed... I've seen your pics and my new car is very similiar... but you gotta take into consideration the year and put it on an equal competitive scale... I have read so much reviews and I have spoke to so many proud owners of the 1998 Accord V6-L and wow, it sure runs so much more smoothier!

Maybe you guys should have purchased the normal V6 Accord instead ;)

The normal Accord is a more conservative car, more similar to the 98' Accord.


In various ways, the Accord Euro is virtually the Prelude replacement (which are no longer produced).

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

Guys,

I've owned the Honda Accord V6-L since it first came out 8 years ago and paid approximately $50,000 for it at the time, it's got everything - leather interior, wood grain, power eletric everything and rides like a plane - smooth and very luxurious indeed... recently, my Wife and I decided to upgrade and went for the 2006 Honda Accord Euro... despite the various difference in looks, trend and some latest features... I have discovered that for some reason, all in all, nothing beats my 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. The V6-L rides smoother, has fair better handling and is so much roomier... although the new Accord Euro outranks in looks and has some more features inside... I personally feel for what's it's worth all all the hype... Honda's best Accord so far to this day, remains the 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. Does anyone has a similiar car, similiar experiences and thoughts... not to mention, alot of Accord Euro's have been recalled due to various faults... and the Euro's doors are so stiff, uncomfortable seats and the steering is less dynamic than the V6-L...I know it sounds hard to believe... but not all new things are better...and oh, after 1998, most of the Honda rang is assembled in Thailand not Japan anymore...so maybe this is why?

If you have any similiar thoughts, please do share this with me... my Wife is saying that I am dreaming and am too attached to my first car... but trust me, after some years driving, you can start to feel the difference... :thumbsup:

Thanks,

SW. :wave:

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Good to see some passion out there for Accords :D A couple of points though, there has only been one recall on the Euro - the boot harness. There have been recalls for your model too. Hard to comment on differences in build quality - both seem to be very reliable cars (at least mechanically).

The Euro is built in Japan. I thought the 98 Accord was build in Ohio, USA? Check under your hood. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.

Re handling - when you say the V6 has better handling, what has drawn you to this conclusion? I would be surprised if this were the case given the market intentions of the two vehicles are totally different. I would expect the V6 to be a much softer ride.

you mention that the v6 has better handling, yet also is a smoother ride, these seem somewhat incompatible. I would suggest that due to the larger, heavier engine, the v6 would understeer more.

having driven an accord euro luxury and a v6 accord i would have to disagree - the euro was superbly built, i think the seats were exceptionally comfortable, the leather was not the best in a car ive ever seen, but still of a very high standard. quiet as a mouse on the 16' wheels and overal very luxurious for what it is - a competitively priced mid-sized car.

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Originally Posted by Mr_will

you mention that the v6 has better handling, yet also is a smoother ride, these seem somewhat incompatible. I would suggest that due to the larger, heavier engine, the v6 would understeer more.

having driven an accord euro luxury and a v6 accord i would have to disagree - the euro was superbly built, i think the seats were exceptionally comfortable, the leather was not the best in a car ive ever seen, but still of a very high standard. quiet as a mouse on the 16' wheels and overal very luxurious for what it is - a competitively priced mid-sized car.

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I know it sounds a bit hard to believe... but not all new cars are better built and drives the same... only a true car enthuasiest will understadn this...and I am sure we all are here of course...

Well, the new Accord Euro looks nice but for some reason feels slightly smaller than the V6-L... when turning the V6 despite the 8 year gap feels smoother, softer and makes less noise when hitting the 100 km/h+ region.. I guess for some reason, I prefer the old one better... everything about it feels better... I kinda regret paying 40+G's for mine...

If only all cars are built like the V6-L... does anyone here own a 1998 V6L like mine and can make some comments?

You're making me wanna drive a V6-L haha.

Honestly though, I'd say the differences your noticing between the car have a fair bit to do with post-purchse dissonance (regret) and your love for your previous car. I find it hard to believe that the euro would handle any worse, especially not at the limits or around a track. Perhaps you prefered the smoother, more refined nature of the accord V6-L and the way it handled like a luxury vehicle as apposed to a sportier vehicle?

If anything, just give the accord euro some time and I'm sure it will grow on you. Well hopefully it doe anyway :thumbsup: personally i think it's a great car.

hahahaha represent 6th gen owners of the world....i love my 6th gen,only prob with em i can see is the auto tranny,i cant compare it too a euro cos iam yet too drive one,i do like the look of the euros and tried to con the minister for war and finance into trading our 6th gen for one but she loves the 6th gen too much..good too see another pasionate owner..

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

I know it sounds a bit hard to believe... but not all new cars are better built and drives the same... only a true car enthuasiest will understadn this...and I am sure we all are here of course...

Well, the new Accord Euro looks nice but for some reason feels slightly smaller than the V6-L... when turning the V6 despite the 8 year gap feels smoother, softer and makes less noise when hitting the 100 km/h+ region.. I guess for some reason, I prefer the old one better... everything about it feels better... I kinda regret paying 40+G's for mine...

If only all cars are built like the V6-L... does anyone here own a 1998 V6L like mine and can make some comments?

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its not hard to believe at all, i know what you are saying. i would rather drive my integra than say a new excel or other crappy small car.

the specific point i was making was in relation to handling, you said that the v6 handles BETTER than the euro, and I am struggling with this concept, after having driven both the extra weight up front in the v6 is very apparent, i think the euro handles much better

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Originally Posted by Mr_will

its not hard to believe at all, i know what you are saying. i would rather drive my integra than say a new excel or other crappy small car.

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lol very true. I drove a newish 2005 Mitsu Lancer ES and it was terribly slow (auto) and the plastics were discraceful - it had that cheap black plastic that you would see on a 1985 car. Even my 1993 civic's interior was of better quality.

I used to own a 1998 Accord although it was the 2.4L 4 cylinder one and I must say I far prefer the Euro in terms of handling, performance and most definitely looks and comfort.

I thought that the '98 was bit soft on the handling like yfin said and a bit 'wallowy'. In contrast, the Euro steering even though stiff (I prefer it this way) it is precise and with the sportier suspension you get a lot more wheel and road feedback which gives you confidence when you want to throw the car around a bit.

Plenty of good acceleration and VTEC on the Euro - and it's a car that wants to get up and go real fast and not lethargic at all

Level of equipment is definitely up - won't say too much here and the looks far outclasses the '98 Accord. - the Euro may well be the successor to the now discontinued Prelude!

think you're comparing apples to oranges, a better comparo b/w your 98 V6 would be the V6 Accord, NOT the Euro.

Test drive the current V6 Accord, and tell us what you think :D

I would be less inclined to consider the 98 Accord and the Euro as comparable cars (in the same way the current V6 Accord does not go head-to-head with the Euro).

I have the Euro and my dad has his '98 V6 next to it. The V6 definitely has the torque advantage, and thus more feel on the bum-G-meter in a straight line. But make it change directions, and albeit smooth in turn, it rolls and pitches like a boat, and has a distinct "lead-tipped arrow" feel, being a nose-heavy FWD. The Euro is definitely a MUCH nimber handler (read sportier, not more comfortable). Especially given the two cars are of almost identical weight.

The '98 Accord is comparable to the Merc E-class in design philosphy, for a solid feeling car, with a heavy accelerator and has nice comfort levels for cruising about like your floating.

But gun it into a corner, and floating doesn't cut it. If I drove my dad's Accord in the same fashion and entry speeds as the Euro, there is much more body pitch and roll, the gearbox is more laggy, the engine less responsive (but more powerful), more understeer, and less agility.

The '98 Accord is indeed roomier (simply because it's wider and longer).

So it depends on what your expectations of a car are. Those who desire a E-class probably won't fancy a C55 AMG.

good post mate :thumbsup:

Dear friends, I must say, after having made this post - I then went and took both cars for a good spin around the city this afternoon... I considered both cars as similiar vehicles of the same release year and soon realised that these vehicles are clearly so different... that's face it, the ACCORD EURO is much more fancier looking, has newer features and of course has a newer engine... but let us not forget, the V6-L was by far a more luxurious vehicle for it's time... the accord euro now only retails at around $40,000++ driveaway, whereas the 1998 Accord V6-L cost over $50,000++ driveaway... for some reason, the V6-L is smoother on the long-straight roads and just seems so much more comfortable to drive as it handles to well and really packs a kick to driving... the Accord EURO is a bit too small inside, the wheels wooble a bit and what's more... when you drive fast it feels a bit like a sports car and takes our the luxury... I have read somewhere and have heard a lot of people say that the 1998/1998 Honda Accord V6-L is the very best Honda has produced in years and still remains it's best engineered vehicle! Anyone else agree?

Friends, I have done a lot of research... and it looks like for what's it's worth and if both vehicles came out the same time... the V6-L kicks butt... read the attached link:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4100748AA92U0f

youre getting pretty obsessed dude...

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

the wheels wooble a bit

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:confused: Are you driving a Euro or a Lada? You should get that checked out.

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

1998/1998 Honda Accord V6-L is the very best Honda has produced in years and still remains it's best engineered vehicle! Anyone else agree?

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I like Accords and the Euro but can't agree any Accord model is Hondas best engineered vehicle. That feat would have to go to the s2000 or the NSX-or at least something sporting the Type R badge.

ps-who on earth gave this thread a 5 star rating. lol.

Dude I think you should give your wife the V6-L and drive the Euro yourself for a week and get used to the Euro.

With my Civic that I drove for many years, going straight to the Euro was quite foreign, but now since I drive the Euro all the time and had a chance to get used to it, the Civic is now foreign for me to drive. I actually had difficulty changing the gears and steering the Civic.

If you drive the Euro for a while, I can assure you you will find that its a great car and value its features. You need to get used to a car before passing judgment :)

The bottomline of this discussion is....

Each to their own opinions so just let it be... :D

haha i've never seen so much love for the V6-L. Just give your euro to me i wouldnt mind a spare :angel:

my 1988 toyota cressida is THE BEST car ive ever been in

pure pimp. just so comfortable to be in. older cars have so much charactare to them
new cars are all just cold cheap plastic bits, with no feel to them at all

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Originally Posted by Chris_F

haha i've never seen so much love for the V6-L. Just give your euro to me i wouldnt mind a spare :angel:

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Hi Chris, after reading this reply I fell of my arm-chair and hit my head on the floor laughing.... you're so funny man...

Seriously, the V6-L is just so good, so comfortable to drive in... to show how insane I am, just after 4 weeks of purchasing the Honda Accord Euro, I might just put it back onto the market... that's how much difference I see... the V6-L is just way way better in all aspects besides look... however, the V6-L is very good-looking too you know! hi hi hi :cool:

Sky

give us some pics man. Share the love of your car hehe :D

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Originally Posted by kam

my 1988 toyota cressida is THE BEST car ive ever been in

pure pimp. just so comfortable to be in. older cars have so much charactare to them
new cars are all just cold cheap plastic bits, with no feel to them at all

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Well in some ways you are right my friend... newer cars now-a-days are way too stockly and blocky... seriously peoples, look inside an old 1998-1998 Accord, prelude or even Civic and you can find the difference from the newer models nowadays... nowadays, it's all about looks outside and everything inside is mainly plastic... just look at a top-notch, well-maintained 98 Accord V6-L - after 8+ years, you still can sell it for around $17,000 on a good day... mate, they keep their value heaps better than say a Ford or a Toyota can... look at newer cars...say a 2003 Honda Accord, just after 3 years, you'll be lucky to get $22,000 for it after buying it for nearly double the price... see what I mean guys, newer cars nowadays just don't cut it!

YES - my love for my 1998 Honda Accord V6-L is paramount!

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Originally Posted by yfin

give us some pics man. Share the love of your car hehe :D

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You betcha, I love my car heaps and think the 1998 Honda Accord is the best in its range forever... when it gets older, I will recondition it and will continue using it forever!!

No worries, pictures will come....

READ HERE TO SEE HOW GOOD and how much effort was put into the magnificient 1998 HONDA ACCORD V6-L...

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...el_name=ACCORD

Read here and you will understand why I am so crazy about my vehicle:

http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_50...wsarticle.html


Some extracts:

THE 1998 Honda Accord gains a powerful V6 engine and all-new platform under the most thorough re-design of one of Honda's most popular car lines in its 22-year history.

The Accord V6 and V6-L models get the all-new 3.0-litre, 24-valve, SOHO VTEC V6 featuring class-leading performance from 147 kW of power and 265 Nm of torque. Like its four-cylinder counterpart, the 60-degree V6 is exceptionally smooth.

The Accord's new chassis features a new five-link double-wishbone rear suspension and a redesigned double-wishbone front suspension, combined with innovative front and rear sub frames that yield a high degree of isolation from vibration and precise, stable handling.

Honda Australia Senior Director Neal Robertson said the new Honda Accord was set to continue Accord's leadership in the Australia prestige car market.

"We have every confidence that the new Accord has what it takes to remain No. 1 in the Australian prestige market." - Honda Australia CEO

MAJOR FEATURES

Accord V6-LUXURY

2.3-litre SOHC 16-valve VTEC 4 cyl. engine producing 110 kW \@ 5700 rpm.
5-speed manual transmission or optional 4-speed Grade Logic Control automatic.
4-wheel double-wishbone suspension.
Torque-sensitive variable power assisted steering.
ABS four-wheel disc brakes.
Dual SRS airbags.
Air-conditioning.
Cruise control.
8 km/h bumpers.
Moquette trim.
Central locking.
Power windows.
Electric mirrors.
AM/FM radio cassette with four speakers.
Tilt-adjustable steering.
Height-adjustable driver's seat.
Driver's footrest.
Fold-down rear seat with pass through and centre armrest.
Body-coloured bumpers, mirrors and protective side mouldings.
Remote fuel lid release.
195/65 R15 91V tyres.
Metallic paint.

3.0-litre SOHC 24-valve VTEC V6 producing 147 kW at 5500 rpm.
Grade Logic Control automatic transmission as standard.
Dual exhausts.
Alloy wheels.
205/65 R15 94V tyres.
Keyless central locking.
6-speaker stereo.
Power height adjustable driver's seat.
Passenger side vanity mirror light.

Leather trim.
Electric sunroof.
Climate control air-conditioning.
Woodgrain console.
6-speaker stereo.
8-way adjustable power driver's seat.
Auto off headlamps with 15-second delay.
Sunglasses holder in headliner.

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

Read here and you will understand why I am so crazy about my vehicle:

http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_50...wsarticle.html

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Nice work young skywalker. I am feeling the love.

I don't mean to nit pick but I feel I had to make some comments back as maybe you're thinking the Euro is a car it isn't.

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

... the V6-L was by far a more luxurious vehicle for it's time... the accord euro now only retails at around $40,000++ driveaway, whereas the 1998 Accord V6-L cost over $50,000++ driveaway...

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That proves nothing except you get more for your money. Also consider when GST came in the cost of new cars dropped as sales tax on new cars was much higher than 10% :)

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

for some reason, the V6-L is smoother on the long-straight roads and just seems so much more comfortable to drive as it handles to well and really packs a kick to driving...

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I've driven the 2003 V6 Accord Lux and yes it was somewhat smoother but only maybe 5% more than the Euro and this is only due to the stiffer suspension of the Euro. Luxury cars like your Accord are always smoother than cars with a more sportier feel. That's why Aust Honda have 2 Accords for our market. 1 for sports and 1 for pure comfort.

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

... the Accord EURO is a bit too small inside

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It's a different sized car. A Focus is smaller than a Falcon. Did you not sit in the car when you bought it?

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

... the wheels wooble a bit

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You should get that looked at. Also note the Euro steering is heavier than the Accord so you feel more bumps. I like it like that cause I feel like I've driving it. The current Accord V6 has very light steering.

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

... when you drive fast it feels a bit like a sports car and takes out the luxury

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That's why most of us bought 1.

It seems to me that you should have bought a current V6 Accord Luxury. They are more aimed at the luxury market and provide that posh car status that people like that buy them.

Me: I bought me Euro because it has most of the things you don't like.

simple question: hows your gearbox btw?

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Originally Posted by Chris_F

haha i've never seen so much love for the V6-L. Just give your euro to me i wouldnt mind a spare :angel:

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hehe, neither have I. The V6L is a great car, I comtemplated getting one last year. Though I can't agree that its the best car Honda has ever made. Not to mention it was somewhat of a sales flop. The leather does seem to be of a much higher quality than the Euro Luxury though.

Skywalker, it does seem as if you bought the wrong Accord. Did you even look at the Accord V6? Because that would've been a better fit for you; big, V6 power, comfortable, smooth, light steering, almost $50,000...

This has become a really long thread!

My 2 cents: each to their own. Different people like different things in a car -- it doesn't necessarily make one better.

My personal answer: I would never own a V6-L because I don't like automatics!

As someone said earlier, the V6-L is more closely related to the other wide-body Accord: both were designed primarily with the US market in mind -- what a lot of motoring journalism has described as "boulevard cruisers". In fact, you'll also find a lot or motoring journalism describe the 6th gen as "bland" (don't have a direct reference -- do a search on http://www.drive.com.au).

Yes, the Euro is smaller inside -- it was designed to be more of a sports sedan, and you would assume than when you're punting a car hard, you'd want it to behave more like a sports car than a luxury car so that you get feedback both from the chassis and the road.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not a one-eyed Euro die-hard (thgey're not a perfect car, but is anything?) and I can't say I've driven a V6-L: I'm just recounting what I've read.

I do love my Euro though, because it works for me...

I'm sure if he drives the Euro for two weeks, his wife will never see it again ;)

Just got my 1998, Honda Accord V6-L VTEC on friday, and i loves it. defiantly imo one of the nicest cars to drive.

I didn't get the V6-L but I got the VTi-L. no sunroof but still have everything else. i want a sunroof bad.

They are nice cars but I hate the gearbox. such a b1atch. And when lowered, u get alot of issues (clunking, ticking, all sorts of weird sounds)

You simply cannot compare these two cars! The fact they both have the name Accord means nothing, they are two different beasts.

from what i have read here, seems you pretty much right, msnealo. seems to be if you want sporty ride go the euro, if ya want a cruising ride go the accord.

I looked at 2 doors, and integras and ludes, love the looks of them. but apart from being alilltle small for me, and the Accord V6-L was bas about 6-7k cheaper.

anyway's if you just want a nice cruising ride, love the 98 Accord V6-L.

will have to definetly agree with that after all that reading ^^^

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Originally Posted by Dray_Templar

Just got my 1998, Honda Accord V6-L VTEC on friday, and i loves it. defiantly imo one of the nicest cars to drive.

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To be honest, my 2006 Honda Accord is the top-notch type... I chose every option under the sun... but we gotta remember, we gotta put them in the same time-frame, same release date and the same catergory...

Dray - you made the right move buying the 1998 V6-L... the look will never be out-dated, and if you maintain it well... boy, this car beats any luxury vehicle around... I love it from head to toe...

EVeryone - thanks for the support you've shown this thread...

Sky

As a luxury car for highway travel, I have no doubt your 98 V6-L whips the Accord Euro around and upside down. I just drove 1200km over the weekend, 1000km of those on the highway and 200km in the mountains up to the snowfields. I have to say, the Euro is noisy and harsh on the freeway. Any road imperfection is transferred into the cabin. It was so loud that conversation had to be louder and the radio was up 3 notches just to hear the lyrics. Yes, this was with the engine at only 2600rpm...

But once I got into the mountains, it was superb. Handling was great. I'm not talking about straight line, slow down to 30km/h to turn at the intersection type stuff. I'm talking 100km/h speed limited roads with advisory signs telling you to take the corner at 35km/h. The car did not disappoint at all, even with the -1 ºC temperature producing a frosty road and snow on the side. I didn't once manage to engage the traction control nor the VSA. That's how good the stock Euro chassis is when in smooth flowing corners. When in sharp corners though..... it's a different story. But you'll never see high speeds in the sharp corners except on the track.

these cars are purely and simply family cars, they are too boring to cruise around, too soft for a spirited drive. Technically there is nothing amazing, equipment wise there is nothing innovating, and I think honda will be shamed to death if that car is crowned as their best car ever.

thanks you for your opinion xtercii. It's good to hear the opposite side somtimes.nice to no my car is and aways will be a family car :P

we will see my friend, we will see.

I am sorry but I am just saying the truth from my heart, it serves the purpose well and it probably beats every other jap competitor during its era, but I just don't see which criteria would make it standout so much.

xtercii, no need to be sorry mate. thats why we use the forum, to listen to other peoples opinions, and advice.

They are nice cars but are by no means the best honda car ever made i think. Some of the earlier model Japanese made honda cars are superior in build quality and defect clearance, as opposed to the stuff we get from thailand (which is still excellent - but designed by buffoons from the states?). I would definately vouch for the EG-EK civic range as being some of the best, as well as the DC range integras and the CD range accords.

When I sold my bemma 1.5 years ago, I looked at a few different Honda's to buy. I was very close at buying a 2000 V6-L which I thought was excellent value for money and has just about every option under the sun ! The thing that changed my mind was when my dad came to look at the car with me once and totally loved it ! hes 63 years old and said its the smoothest ride hed expereinced for a while and heaps of space to put the rest of the family in the back. Now I'm 25 years old and I realised thats not what I wanted from a car. I wanted something classy yet sporty and under 28K. I looked for months at every make and model car including german types and the only one that fit that catagory was the honda Euro. It had the best balance of class, sportiness, power, comfort, looks and most importantly at a very reasonable price.I stuck some rims on it and lowered it a touch and it looks even sportier now. I often think about seling it before It starts to get old, but everytime I think of what else to buy I hit a brick wall. I honoustly cannot think of a better car to buy at that price.
ohh and resale value, honda skywalker mentions 22K after 3 years... I've just looked up carsales.com.au and the average price is around 25-28 K for a 2003 euro Standard 6SMT with average KM. I think ud be hard pressed to find a car hold its value better than that ( besides some high end german makes).

I still admit though the V6-L is an awsome car... just not for me...

go the CD accords :)

guys just face it... the 1998 accord v6-L stands out!

Yes, Yes it does :)

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Originally Posted by hondaskywalker

my Wife is saying that I am dreaming and am too attached to my first car

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i think your wife is right

I have a 2000 Accord V6L and i really love it aswell... it definately makes me wanna move to a newer model of the V6 next time i trade up.

One thing i think honda should consider is bringing the Acura TL 3.2 V6 here to sit between the Accords and the Legend that is on its way. with 258 hp and a 6 speed auto or manual it would edge the Accord V6 in performance and appeal to people who like the euro styling... i guess i dont know if they make a RHD version though...

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Originally Posted by thatdbeme

i guess i dont know if they make a RHD version though...

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Not currently. Rumours are that Japan might get it. The latest inspire in japan is the aussie/nz/usa accord V6, it's rumoured it would be badged the saber or vigour.

I love the TL/inspire/saber. I hope to have a 2nd gen (2000/2001) in a few months. I've even seen a type-s for sale in NZ - 265hp.:thumbsup:

Raz

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Originally Posted by pilotb777_300

The thing that changed my mind was when my dad came to look at the car with me once and totally loved it ! hes 63 years old...

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hahaha, you should have made it look like this!

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/11/141rl.jpg


http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/884/70iq.jpg

Raz

damn razaman thats the shit what i wanna do to mine only want mine to look better :P

thanks for some more insperation

You know what guys - cars like the 1998, 1999 and 2000 Honda Accord V6-L's after modded looks groice - it's the shape and stuff... whereas if you mod a newer Accord, they look like a Spaceship - really wierd looking and it doesn't feel as nice... agree?

Guys, I have just checked with some other 1998 V6-L owners and they agree, the V6-L is way too cool to ever say... rather keep for another day or something... damn too good!

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hahaha, you should have made it look like this!

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/11/141rl.jpg


http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/884/70iq.jpg

Raz

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Love those wheels...please tell me where to get them!!

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Love those wheels...please tell me where to get them!!

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OZ Racing Superleggera

http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/wheelmodels/289

Raz

http://www.autosportz.com/body_kits/tsx/ks_ss.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/11/141rl.jpg



I can't remember hondaskywalker......which one is it again that "looks like a spaceship"



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I'm guessing the one that floating in mid air with no road under it :P with all the light glowing from it..

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I'm guessing the one that floating in mid air with no road under it :P with all the light glowing from it..

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I was trying to be sarcastic:rolleyes: but when you look at it that photo of the Euro really does look like a space ship flying. I guess it back fired.

mate if i had the money i would probable get a spaceship :P they still look damn nice.

oh and sorry i ripped you sarcastic commet to pieces i was borred, and it seemed funny at the time.

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Guys,

I've owned the Honda Accord V6-L since it first came out 8 years ago and paid approximately $50,000 for it at the time, it's got everything - leather interior, wood grain, power eletric everything and rides like a plane - smooth and very luxurious indeed... recently, my Wife and I decided to upgrade and went for the 2006 Honda Accord Euro... despite the various difference in looks, trend and some latest features... I have discovered that for some reason, all in all, nothing beats my 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. The V6-L rides smoother, has fair better handling and is so much roomier... although the new Accord Euro outranks in looks and has some more features inside... I personally feel for what's it's worth all all the hype... Honda's best Accord so far to this day, remains the 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. Does anyone has a similiar car, similiar experiences and thoughts... not to mention, alot of Accord Euro's have been recalled due to various faults... and the Euro's doors are so stiff, uncomfortable seats and the steering is less dynamic than the V6-L...I know it sounds hard to believe... but not all new things are better...and oh, after 1998, most of the Honda rang is assembled in Thailand not Japan anymore...so maybe this is why?

If you have any similiar thoughts, please do share this with me... my Wife is saying that I am dreaming and am too attached to my first car... but trust me, after some years driving, you can start to feel the difference... :thumbsup:

Thanks,

SW. :wave:

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I have both cars 1998 and 2006, the 2006 Euro has far better handling.

The turn in with the euro is much sharper, with better mid corner speed. You can also adjust the car's behaviour instantanously through the throttle - a little lift off and the rear will slide to tighten up the cornering line.

The 1998 accord respond slower to ur inputs, the chassis waits a bit b4 it turns in.

Sure, the 1998's engine might be more relaxed cos it has fatter torque down at the low revs, but you have to bear in mind that the euro's engine is designed to be rev hard. i.e. you have to rev it up past 5000rpm to get the best out of it, just like any NA sports car engine.

I don't know about reliability, since i just got the MY06 model recently. However, the 1998 never had any problems (other than failing CD player, failing central locking system which are minor problems).

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Guys,

I've owned the Honda Accord V6-L since it first came out 8 years ago and paid approximately $50,000 for it at the time, it's got everything - leather interior, wood grain, power eletric everything and rides like a plane - smooth and very luxurious indeed... recently, my Wife and I decided to upgrade and went for the 2006 Honda Accord Euro... despite the various difference in looks, trend and some latest features... I have discovered that for some reason, all in all, nothing beats my 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. The V6-L rides smoother, has fair better handling and is so much roomier... although the new Accord Euro outranks in looks and has some more features inside... I personally feel for what's it's worth all all the hype... Honda's best Accord so far to this day, remains the 1998 Honda Accord V6-L. Does anyone has a similiar car, similiar experiences and thoughts... not to mention, alot of Accord Euro's have been recalled due to various faults... and the Euro's doors are so stiff, uncomfortable seats and the steering is less dynamic than the V6-L...I know it sounds hard to believe... but not all new things are better...and oh, after 1998, most of the Honda rang is assembled in Thailand not Japan anymore...so maybe this is why?

If you have any similiar thoughts, please do share this with me... my Wife is saying that I am dreaming and am too attached to my first car... but trust me, after some years driving, you can start to feel the difference... :thumbsup:

Thanks,

SW. :wave:

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I have both cars 1998 and 2006, the 2006 Euro has far better handling.

The turn in with the euro is much sharper, with better mid corner speed. You can also adjust the car's behaviour instantanously through the throttle - a little lift off and the rear will slide to tighten up the cornering line.

The 1998 accord respond slower to ur inputs, the chassis waits a bit b4 it turns in.

Sure, the 1998's engine might be more relaxed cos it has fatter torque down at the low revs, but you have to bear in mind that the euro's engine is designed to be rev hard. i.e. you have to rev it up past 5000rpm to get the best out of it, just like any NA sports car engine.

I don't know about reliability, since i just got the MY06 model recently. However, the 1998 never had any problems (other than failing CD player, failing central locking system which are minor problems).

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I have both cars 1998 and 2006, the 2006 Euro has far better handling.

The turn in with the euro is much sharper, with better mid corner speed. You can also adjust the car's behaviour instantanously through the throttle - a little lift off and the rear will slide to tighten up the cornering line.

The 1998 accord respond slower to ur inputs, the chassis waits a bit b4 it turns in.

Sure, the 1998's engine might be more relaxed cos it has fatter torque down at the low revs, but you have to bear in mind that the euro's engine is designed to be rev hard. i.e. you have to rev it up past 5000rpm to get the best out of it, just like any NA sports car engine.

I don't know about reliability, since i just got the MY06 model recently. However, the 1998 never had any problems (other than failing CD player, failing central locking system which are minor problems).

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I guess you do have a point... I mean....

they are indeed two calls...however, if you separate the two cars apart and think of them as having just been released at the same time... surely, the 1998 Honda Accord sure does kick a bolt!

i'd like to have my input in this topic if i may :D
today, my friend came and drove me home as I had a big night the night before and when i woke up i still felt tipsy (yeah i had a shitload to drink). His car is a BB6 5th gen prelude but atm its at the panelbeaters as his front bumper and his bonnet is sorta crunched.
in the meantime, he is driving his parent's 1998 accord V6. Its not the V6-L but the 50th anniversay edition or something?

anyway, i think i can now understand where hondaskywalker is coming from. the car is dead quiet and for a 1998 model, its a very comfortable ride. it has a very linear power delivery (no neck snap) and it has a quite a bit of torque down low i felt.

headunit still retains the honda tapedeck which is a bit disappointing seeing as how even our 1998 camry back then had a CD player from factory.

the passenger side glovebox sorta looks like the mark IV supra's glovebox position. sticks out like a sore thumb. woulda been better if that part of the dash was just smooth like the euro.

the drive and comfort of this car, i was very surprised and impressed. the car seems to just glide on the blacktop whereas with the euro it is a little more sluggish IMO. like i said before, its a very quiet and comfortable ride. I asked him if he had any engine problems or failures and he said there hasnt been any. regular service intervals from honda every 10K kms and seeing as how this particular car has done 100,000km +, i can say that the accord V6 is very worthy of competing with the big boys eg beamer, merc etc.

Although most of you are going down the path of "Accord V6-L was a nice car but Euro is better" route, I beg to differ.
Accord V6-L was way too soft, looks too conservative and also had terrible resale value as it was very unpopular.
I don't know how anybody can think Euro is inferior unless you are really old and have absolutely no concept of what makes a car handle better.
From the way you're phrasing your opinion, I seriously doubt you have much technical knowledge and you are solely basing your opinion on the fact that it's quiet and smooth which mainly comes from the fact that Accord V6-L had a very lousy, soft suspension that makes the car devoid of any feel at all.


the V6-L was by far a more luxurious vehicle for it's time... the accord euro now only retails at around $40,000++ driveaway, whereas the 1998 Accord V6-L cost over $50,000++ driveaway...

Euro is only cheaper than your Accord because Honda had a real trouble selling their cars in Australia because it was way too expensive. Prior to the introduction of the Euro, Honda's sales mainly consisted of Civics. The have since then reduced the price of their entire range to make the brand a lot more affordable.

the wheels wooble a bit and what's more... when you drive fast it feels a bit like a sports car and takes our the luxury...

WTF? Nobody gets what you are trying to say here.

just look at a top-notch, well-maintained 98 Accord V6-L - after 8+ years, you still can sell it for around $17,000 on a good day... mate, they keep their value heaps better than say a Ford or a Toyota can.

Who says? You? 2000 year Accord V6-L cost more than $50,000 when brand new, but you'll be lucky to fetch $18,000. Hardly a great resale value if you ask me. it's not surprising considering how unpopular they were.

guys just face it... the 1998 accord v6-L stands out!

In what way? To me, it's the most boring car ever and everytime I look at the car, all I think of is "granny car"

they are indeed two calls...however, if you separate the two cars apart and think of them as having just been released at the same time... surely, the 1998 Honda Accord sure does kick a bolt!

What are you on about? If both cars were released back in the 90's the Euro would've made headlines everywhere because it's too advanced for its time. If Accord V6 was released now, no one will even look at it because it's inferior to anything that's on the market. Therefore, if we think of them as having been released at the same time, Accord Euro is superior in every way still.

I've always loved that 1998 Accord. Its just a really great car that caters for the occasions.

If my Euro Accord has 5 cylinders, it'll be one of the best cars in the world (which it already is). May be an LSD or at least ATTS would be nice. It'll be perfect actually.

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Exactly, especially for those trips to the local lawn bowls club... (joke people - don't take things too seriously). :D

i have been reading this thread for a while and i now am deciding to put in my little bit...being a proud V6L owner i am more biased to it....but the euro is still a great car..

i say that both cars are as good as each other "for what they are designed to be and do".....

V6L - obviously luxury plush ride...quiet...
Euro - obviously sports mid sized sedan....

honda designed these cars with two different intensions..so u cant say that one is better than the other....because simply they where designed for different reasons.....one thing is comparable they both do what there designed to do in typical Honda style.

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Exactly, especially for those trips to the local lawn bowls club... (joke people - don't take things too seriously). :D

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LOL ... im gona find out which lawn bowl club you go to and egg you..

Okay guys - firstly, hanks for the huge support that everyone has shown this thread... I know it sounds corny and kinda wierd for someone like me to pin a 1998 accord against a 2006 mode that's obviously 8-9 years younger, more advanced and surely looks much more fashionable...however, allow me to convey the following... the follow is perhaps a definitive suggestion why I feel the 1998 Honda V6-L is really worth a re-think...

Look people, just because something is newer, doesn't mean it's always necessarily better and efficient etc... look around you, although unfortunately this seems to be the trend of perception, let us reset out mind and be fair...here are some differing examples...

1. Look at Windows 98 Second Edition - damn, it is surely Microsoft's best, more reliable and by far the most stable release of a operating system compared to all the latest releases like Windows ME, Windows XP and the soon-to-be released Windows VISTA NET or something... Windows 98 obviously looks more boring, has less features and one could say it is less attractive visually...but guys, lift the hood up and you will notice the difference for games, the 98 version rocks as it displays more sprites and pixels on screen, loads far quicker than other versions of windows and what's more crashes fair less and has less bugs to say the least...it's one damn good version of Windows yet it is so old...

2. Computer monitors, the 1996 17" released Sony SF Trinitron Monitor rocks...displays the most dpi on screen, long-lasting and is excellent for games and movies...where as with the new flatscreens...yeah sure, they look better, more trendy and are most expensive and so on... but a shyte load of them stuff up within the first 2 years of use and nearly none of them last longer than 5 years without lessing clarity...for those that have a Sony SF - mate, I still got mine and it still has not stuffed up even once!

Now, the above are just some comparative examples for different things from other contexts...however, now back to the 1998 Honda Accord - yeah sure, it's older, it looks less trendy and perhaps ... yeah sure, it has less state-of-the-art features like the new Accords today...however, for your information, Honda has recalled far more vehicles in the last 4 years then it has in the past...come on bros, designed in a different country, engineered in Japan and the put together by people in the sweatshops in Thailand? Enough said...whereas with the 1998-2000 Honda Accords, it was soley designed in Japan, engineered in Japan, partially put together in Japan and the rest completed in Ohia USA...the 1998 Honda V6-L was designed for the American "prestige market." Guys, vehicles now-a-days have lost their prestige look... reason is because most people cannot afford them...too much competition in Australia and all manufacturers...not just Honda are now more focused on Quantity (how many vehicles they can sell) and no so much how pleasing these vehicles can have for their drivers...'

Guys, take it from me... I have nothing against anyone that drives a 2006 Honda Euro - damn me, they the bes mid-size sedans in the Australian Market for the mid-range price-tage no doubt... they look hot, so trendy and what's more if you change the rims and mod it up a bit...damn, it's hot...but did you know that most 2006 Euro Accord members have complained about this vehicle non-stop? Blimmey...there's a god-forsaken thread a few positions down from this thread titled "what do you hate about the new Accord Euro" ...read the wall of shame before you post the wall of fame!

I bought the Honda Accord Euro a few months ago and have since sold it...for around $7,000 lesser mind you...why? Because of the following reasons...I didn't do post a few reasons after all as I guess everyone has been baffled for ages why I am so against it...ok, read this...

1. It's suspension is way too stiff (use whatever word you want)...but bloody hell, when you drive it, it feels like you're trying a luxury-tank...way too stiff for a mid-size sedan.

2. When the engine is idle, it shakes and weeps like a kitten out of milk...damn me dead, it drinks far too much petrol and when stationed, it cries too load...

3. Just like a few members have complained already...the Honda Euro is a bit noisy...remember guys, we're comparing a 1998 model against a 2006 model... damn, the 1998 is like a luxury liner cruising along softly whereas the 2006 Accord is like a mini-spaceship that's on Viagra...man, for what it's worth and what it's boasting...I am extremely dissapointed!

Man, the damn 2006 Honda Euro is so dissapointing (remember, for it's youth, boasted features and cost)...

Why you wouldn't:

Lacks effortless, torquey performance of competitor V6 autos
Climate control varies noticeably in temperature
Some throttle jerkiness

Why you wouldn't:

Slight jerkiness when getting on and off the power
Climate control air temp varies too much

Against: Tight rear seat, narrow boot opening, suspension can be tested over sharp bumps.

Guys, personally, if you don't mind a less out-dated look... the V6-L rules!

Man, some of you even posted your complaints here:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17711

Errr Windows 98 better than XP or the upcoming Vista? You're making comparisons to a product which isn't released until next year? Yet you are overly confident that Windows 98 is the holy grail to every other versions of Windows?
Pixels and sprites, crashes less and more stable?!? Ahaha wtf is going on there?
At least back up what you say with conclusive proof in your Windows and monitor analogies. I find these examples completely false and inaccurate.

Since this isn't a forum about Computers, feel free to start a new thread in the lounge to discuss this matter properly. ;)

And the reason why there's more threads on problems regarding vehicles on forums and less on praises is because it only takes one thread praising the vehicle which can sum up pretty much everything that needs to be said. Surely you don't want a zillion almost near identical threads about the same thing now do you?

With issues regarding these vehicles, people post them up in hoping others who might have experienced similar problems to help out and learn a few things or two in the process. Some are common and can be found using the search function while others are different for each car. Thus you will always get more threads on issues then praises.

Clearly the Accord Euro is not the car for you.
But why didnt you opt for the new Accord V6 Luxury over the Euro, it's definately your avenue by the looks of things.

It's like take for example, you wouldn't buy a BMW M5 over a normal 5 series BMW if your top priority being luxury above all else. As is the case with the Accord Euro and the new Accord, aimed at two different markets, you choosed the wrong one. But research prior to buying would have told you that.

Am the only one thinking that in a few posts/pages we'll see a "Oh and also this great car is up for sale here LINK".

What you said about Win98 and old SF monitors, holyshit you got it wrong.

just outta curiosity, how old are you? 30? 35? 40?

Man Hondaskywalker you are so off the mark, I mean man one minute you lost $6000 selling the Euro and then man you lost $7000, wow man. And another thing man is you say the Euro looks like a spaceship man and then in your last post you said that it looks hot. What's the story man.

Your comparison's man are correct, thay back up who you are. If you don't want to move forward in the world then don't. If what you have is already the best, as in your windows 98 runs great on your Sony screen then stick with it. Sound's to me like your stuck in 1998.

How's that cardigan you bought back in 1998, they don't make them like that any more do they?

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just outta curiosity, how old are you? 30? 35? 40?

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I was wondering about the same thing.
For someone to love the old Accord V6 so much, he has to be quite old, but the way he phrases his opinion makes me think he's a teenager making up stories. Now I don't even know whether he really owned a Euro or not even though he claims to have.

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Hi Chris, after reading this reply I fell of my arm-chair and hit my head on the floor laughing.... you're so funny man...

Seriously, the V6-L is just so good, so comfortable to drive in... to show how insane I am, just after 4 weeks of purchasing the Honda Accord Euro, I might just put it back onto the market... that's how much difference I see... the V6-L is just way way better in all aspects besides look... however, the V6-L is very good-looking too you know! hi hi hi :cool:

Sky

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hey i got an idea.....why don't you just rape your v6-L....jesus christ...

oh and yes iam going to sell my euro too and get a v6-L tomorrow.
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can no one else see that these toolbuckets are all shitstirring newcomers..
all friends and obviously from the subaru forums again.....

LOL @ albii
was about to say something along those lines but guess u beat me to it
hondaskywalker, u seem to like the older cars, saying that theyre better and that not all things newer are necessarily better.
if you use this logic of urs then, would you purchase, say, a mercedes or a beemer which was made back in 1995 or something compared to the current one?