Springs vs Coilovers

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Originally Posted by migoreng

They definately have a stiffer spring rate compared to stock. Plus when the car is loaded, the progressive springs start working.

You can't expect them to be full stiff... They allow some suspension travel for ride comfort.

even with a full car on an interstate trip, I don't have any worries about bottoming out

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Originally Posted by senna

no one is willing to try it because they'd prefer to listen to a bunch of amateurs with nothing to compare their ebay special coilovers to...

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I've been in and driven a car with an expensive shock spring combo and it was really good. although I bought my coilovers with adjustable height+damper+spring in mind more then anything. and we don't ALL have "ebay specials" dude haha... unless buddyclub/cusco/silvers etc are ebay special..

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Originally Posted by migoreng

They definately have a stiffer spring rate compared to stock.

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really? my kings felt worse then stock and I've had oem/kings/coilovers. they look maybe a little thinner then the stock springs metal but i'm not 100% sure so don't quote me on that.

i think with spring/shock combo you need to be using the right height shock and pick your spring rate and dampening based on the kind of ride/performance you have in mind otherwise it'll feel wrong. only problem is once you buy it you (normally) can't adjust it so if you go wrong you need to sell/buy again.

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Originally Posted by DC2-PWR

When I bought King Springs brand new from day 1 I said "it feels weaker than my OEM springs"

Not only that after awhile it sags, screwed my shocks, and the handling became worse.

Waste of precious money just for junk so stay away from it

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sorry if this offends anyone but I just hate king springs lol

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Originally Posted by Super-DA9

I've been in and driven a car with an expensive shock spring combo and it was really good. although I bought my coilovers with adjustable height+damper+spring in mind more then anything. and we don't ALL have "ebay specials" dude haha... unless buddyclub/cusco/silvers etc are ebay special..



really? my kings felt worse then stock and I've had oem/kings/coilovers. they look maybe a little thinner then the stock springs metal but i'm not 100% sure so don't quote me on that.

i think with spring/shock combo you need to be using the right height shock and pick your spring rate and dampening based on the kind of ride/performance you have in mind otherwise it'll feel wrong. only problem is once you buy it you (normally) can't adjust it so if you go wrong you need to sell/buy again.

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Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

I was running kings superlows on bilstein shocks before, the fronts were ok but the rear was too soft IMO. It was a comfy ride, with some stiffer springs at the rear the ride would of been perfect.

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Originally Posted by senna

Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

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Didn't read any of your previous posts but I'd accept what you would've wrote anyway. Can't judge you wrong since its your job doing suspensions.

I'd probably guess my shocks were shot too. So in that case I can't actually review king springs from my behalf, so I'll delete my previous post.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by IDV8

I'm running a stock DC5 and want to drop it a couple of CM, probably an inch exactly. I figured I could just buy some Kings Springs and have them installed, would save a hell of a lot of $$ (this will go towards an exhaust or CAI setup). I use my car as a daily and absolutely no track use.

So what would be the difference besides price - and how exact can I be about vehicle height? Thanks!

BC Coilovers: $1150
King Springs: ~$300

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Originally Posted by grifty

I was running kings superlows on bilstein shocks before, the fronts were ok but the rear was too soft IMO. It was a comfy ride, with some stiffer springs at the rear the ride would of been perfect.

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Kings we buy are not what u would call performance springs, infact they far cry from it... Ive had kings in mine thinking they were performance, how wrong was i!

If u want performance, go teins/eibachs/koni or better yet if u got the dough custom springs straight up!

been in cars with teins, and must say they are much better performing spring than any kings, regardless of lows/Super lows/Super super lows. Much firmer, rides better and just the quality!

Who said shocks/spring combos can't be adjustable?

koni yellow adjustable shocks + ground controlkit = full adjustability

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Originally Posted by senna

Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

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what exactly do you mean by that? if the spring sits too low a nd overworks the shock isn't that essentially the spring causing the issue? Or the shocks for not keeping up with a non desirable spring?