Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the info. The 92dB figure I saw must have come about when I was cross-eyed or drunk..... :zip:Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerbell
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Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the info. The 92dB figure I saw must have come about when I was cross-eyed or drunk..... :zip:Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerbell
my old sub can make 125dB without cranking the amp gain to even 50%...
I wonder what dB a ferarri makes.....
..and surprise.. it's a Federal Law....:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
The figures I quoted were supplied to me by a Federal EPA Officer over the phone.
it is a stretch to ADR's "law"...
the actual enforcement laws of the ADR's are state based.
the state laws make a breach of federal ADR's an offence. the ADR's simply describe the standards.
learn more about Australian Design Rules here:
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...ign/index.aspx
and here (small .PDF):
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...s_nov_2007.pdf
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Originally Posted by tinkerbell
Or put simply the states enforce the Federal Laws such as the ADR's.
wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin086
put simply, the ADR's are not laws.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerbell
"Any new ADRs endorsed by the ATC will, subject to consideration by the Australian
Minister for Transport and Regional Services, be given force in law in Australia by making
them National Standards (ADRs) under section 7 of the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989."
........reference...........
Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 83/00 — External
Noise) 2005
Explanatory Statement
Appendix A
2004 Regulation Impact Statement
(ADR83/00 and other standards)
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrument1.nsf/0/6AB008009ABB6AA8CA2570BA00063460/$file/ADR+83.00+RIS.pdf
Anyway, the Jtune xtreme is 102db measured to EPA requirements..:zip:
...according to my db meter.....;)
they are still not LAWS,
as it CLEARLY states in your post the ADR's are STANDARDS, to be given force in law, not as law...
sheesh! :zip:
Would you be happy with...Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerbell
"Federal Legislation enforceable in law by the states".....
......sheesh:zip:.....talk about getting technical....this ain't no court..
Seems like I had better zip my lip concerning this topic, even though I'm driving a car with the xtreme package fitted, and this thread is titled (Euro)Hondata Update.
Getting way off subject here.............:zip:
Merlin086 - Are you happy with how your car performs or not?
mate, i am just clarifying the comments you made earlier today,Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlin086
you are right - this ain't no court, but if you get pinged with a 102dB car - you might be in one (or james will be by implying these meet ADR requirements!!!!)
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachm...1&d=1199938352
http://www.jtune.com.au/products.html
this is a breach of advertising laws (both federal and state) if it is false, misleading or deceptive...