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  1. #1465
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    the new 06+ requirements are detailed here in ADR83:

    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/mana...5?OpenDocument

    ADR83 replaced the previous ADR28, which is detailed here:

    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/mana...9?OpenDocument
    Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the info. The 92dB figure I saw must have come about when I was cross-eyed or drunk.....
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  2. #1466
    my old sub can make 125dB without cranking the amp gain to even 50%...

    I wonder what dB a ferarri makes.....

  3. #1467
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the info. The 92dB figure I saw must have come about when I was cross-eyed or drunk.....
    ..and surprise.. it's a Federal Law....

    The figures I quoted were supplied to me by a Federal EPA Officer over the phone.
    Last edited by Merlin086; 10-01-2008 at 11:40 AM.
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  4. #1468
    it is a stretch to ADR's "law"...

    the actual enforcement laws of the ADR's are state based.

    the state laws make a breach of federal ADR's an offence. the ADR's simply describe the standards.
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  5. #1469
    learn more about Australian Design Rules here:

    http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...ign/index.aspx

    and here (small .PDF):

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...s_nov_2007.pdf
    Last edited by tinkerbell; 10-01-2008 at 11:44 AM.
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  6. #1470
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    it is a stretch to ADR's "law"...

    the actual enforcement laws of the ADR's are state based.

    the state laws make a breach of federal ADR's an offence. the ADR's simply describe the standards.

    Or put simply the states enforce the Federal Laws such as the ADR's.
    133.4kw atw
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  7. #1471
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin086 View Post
    Or put simply the states enforce the Federal Laws such as the ADR's.
    wrong.

    put simply, the ADR's are not laws.
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  8. #1472
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    wrong.

    put simply, the ADR's are not laws.



    "Any new ADRs endorsed by the ATC will, subject to consideration by the Australian
    Minister for Transport and Regional Services, be given force in law in Australia by making
    them National Standards (ADRs) under section 7 of the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989."

    ........reference...........
    Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 83/00 — External
    Noise) 2005
    Explanatory Statement
    Appendix A
    2004 Regulation Impact Statement
    (ADR83/00 and other standards)
    http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrument1.nsf/0/6AB008009ABB6AA8CA2570BA00063460/$file/ADR+83.00+RIS.pdf


    Anyway, the Jtune xtreme is 102db measured to EPA requirements..

    ...according to my db meter.....
    Last edited by Merlin086; 10-01-2008 at 12:40 PM.
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  9. #1473
    they are still not LAWS,

    as it CLEARLY states in your post the ADR's are STANDARDS, to be given force in law, not as law...

    sheesh!
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  10. #1474
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    they are still not LAWS,

    as it CLEARLY states in your post the ADR's are STANDARDS, to be given force in law, not as law...

    sheesh!
    Would you be happy with...

    "Federal Legislation enforceable in law by the states".....

    ......sheesh.....talk about getting technical....this ain't no court..

    Seems like I had better zip my lip concerning this topic, even though I'm driving a car with the xtreme package fitted, and this thread is titled (Euro)Hondata Update.

    Getting way off subject here.............
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  11. #1475
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  12. #1476
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin086 View Post
    Would you be happy with...

    "Federal Legislation enforceable in law by the states".....

    ......sheesh.....talk about getting technical....this ain't no court..

    Seems like I had better zip my lip concerning this topic, even though I'm driving a car with the xtreme package fitted, and this thread is titled (Euro)Hondata Update.

    Getting way off subject here.............
    mate, i am just clarifying the comments you made earlier today,

    you are right - this ain't no court, but if you get pinged with a 102dB car - you might be in one (or james will be by implying these meet ADR requirements!!!!)



    http://www.jtune.com.au/products.html

    this is a breach of advertising laws (both federal and state) if it is false, misleading or deceptive...
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