Officially unveiled: New Euro

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Originally Posted by SPQR

The Euro has always had drive-by-wire (electronic) throttle. It makes my auto super smooth; especially at low speeds where very fine throttle control is available.....just as the advertising brochure from the dealership said.

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DBW:thumbsup:
but i must admit it took a while to get used to as its touchy, probably cos i was driving a banged up 91 corolla before i got my euro...lol
but now my other car seems to take to long to react when taking off

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Originally Posted by yfin

The rear of the wagon kills the sedan. Honda really should look at a 6 speed auto - shame about 5 speed.

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.........I totally agree ;)

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Originally Posted by splashalot2000

Some interesting changes:
- 12-monthly or 20,000km service intervals;

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Yes some interesting changes alright....

Alot of other car manufacturers are doing 20,000 klm's services some more, upto 32,000klms on some mercedes. It's all got to do with the materials used in building of the motor and quality of oil used, as far as I can gather ( please correct me if i'm wrong ). We'll see if the oem oil changes Honda using now changes this will be a good indicator. Two manufacturers I definetly know that are doing this is Mercedes and Volvo, their are others but not 100 % sure which others are doing this. This is a bonus for consumers as the servicing is cheaper, win win !! And also a good seller for the salesmen selling the cars as this appeals to us the consumer !!

I never believed in 15000kms oil change intervals, talk about 20000kms????
It's all about cost savings in terms of maintainance to the customer....

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Originally Posted by LXRY

Yes some interesting changes alright....

Alot of other car manufacturers are doing 20,000 klm's services some more, upto 32,000klms on some mercedes. It's all got to do with the materials used in building of the motor and quality of oil used, as far as I can gather ( please correct me if i'm wrong ). We'll see if the oem oil changes Honda using now changes this will be a good indicator. Two manufacturers I definetly know that are doing this is Mercedes and Volvo, their are others but not 100 % sure which others are doing this. This is a bonus for consumers as the servicing is cheaper, win win !! And also a good seller for the salesmen selling the cars as this appeals to us the consumer !!

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I don't like that. It works if you are leasing or keeping the car for only 3-5 years. That is what an extended service interval is designed for, low maintenance and a selling point for the duration that you are owning a new car. The 2nd owner after that will take the brunt of the problems, which is what car manufacturers want, to get people to buy NEW cars instead of secondhand ones. Go look at what happens to BMWs when you follow the 1 year 20,000 mile service schedule, combined with start stop city driving. Here is a pic:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2417/sludge2oe8.jpg

BTW, this engine was only 40,000 miles old.

Edit: Here is another pic from another BMW owner.

http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL898...1/93067197.jpg

Interesting post from someone who had their engine replaced under goodwill warranty. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&postcount=384

Any idea when this new model will hit Oz's dealerships?

I'm keen on having a look at the new Euro as I'm in the market for a new car..... my choices are 09 Jazz, 09 Mazda 3, 09 Accords.

There is NO way i'd change my oil and filter only every 20K.The longest i'd leave it between oil and filter changes is 10K or 6 mths.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I don't like that. It works if you are leasing or keeping the car for only 3-5 years. That is what an extended service interval is designed for, low maintenance and a selling point for the duration that you are owning a new car. The 2nd owner after that will take the brunt of the problems, which is what car manufacturers want, to get people to buy NEW cars instead of secondhand ones. Go look at what happens to BMWs when you follow the 1 year 20,000 mile service schedule, combined with start stop city driving. Here is a pic:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2417/sludge2oe8.jpg

BTW, this engine was only 40,000 miles old.

Edit: Here is another pic from another BMW owner.

http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL898...1/93067197.jpg

Interesting post from someone who had their engine replaced under goodwill warranty. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&postcount=384

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Wow...looks bad Aaronng. You make some great points their.

My mercedes van done 180,000 klms serviced at every 22,500klms (Work horse and diesel) van drives the same as new, no smoke. New vans are 32,000 klms now, diesel too.

Look im not a fan of longer oil changes either. I assumed it was material and oil which made this possible.

.....heard bmw had burning of oil issues in the past aswell.

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Originally Posted by ACE888

Any idea when this new model will hit Oz's dealerships?

I'm keen on having a look at the new Euro as I'm in the market for a new car..... my choices are 09 Jazz, 09 Mazda 3, 09 Accords.

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+1, I'd also like to know if anyone has any further info on release dates and pricing?? I've heard different things from different places.... some say later 08, some say early 09, and no word on how the pricing will be on the new model.

Just have a talk with saleman of honda dealer yesterday, he told me the new eruo will release around this June. but its pricelist still unknown at this stage.

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Originally Posted by d0p3y

+1, I'd also like to know if anyone has any further info on release dates and pricing?? I've heard different things from different places.... some say later 08, some say early 09, and no word on how the pricing will be on the new model.

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The new Euro's pricetag would most likely be lineball with the new Mazda 6( looks ugly imo), and others like the Ford Mondeo price range... I'm looking forward to the new Accord Euro wagon and the diesel engine.

I too am keen on the diesel (however, in sedan form) but I wonder whether we will get that or the wagon....

The new Euro looks like an old mans car IMO. I'm 58 but clealry I'm not old enough cos when I look at my MY06 ERuro Lux I cant see anything about the new model that I like better. Its just got a whole lot more generic and is now a competitor for the Camry etc and I think that's very disappointing. Too many conflicting angles and lines, too much rear overhang, fussy interior ergonomics etc etc
One of the great things about the first Euro and the subsequent upgrades was that the lines of the car were quite unique, actually classy. It didn't really look like any other car. You didn't mistake it for something else. The new one could be a Toyota or a Mazda or a ............................ :thumbdwn: