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live at carindale man.
Why go the d16y8 over the y4 or y1? DOHC? would you pick the y1 over the y4...can the y4 handle the boost?
and will i need to change my turbo manifold / mounts etc if i go with the y8? sorry for all the noob questions, im totally fresh to the honda world......
any engine can handle moderate levels of boost (7psi) if it's in good working order (compression is aok, not leaking oil everywhere, etc)
manifold will be fine :)
cool thanks for ur help =]
Y8 is vtec Y1 and Y4 isnt, both SOHC, single cam, if ur engine is ****ed try to get the Y8 just as much as the Y4 but u get a small amount more PWRRRRRRQuote:
Originally Posted by skiiboy90
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio
Sorry gio you're wrong there
Y8 is vtec
Y1 is vtec
Y8 has slightly better IM, Y1 has slightly bigger combustion chamber (or maybe the other way around) Both are as powerful as each other
Y4 isnt vtec
thanks guys. I have found a clean d16y4 for the right $$$, so i think Ill be going that way. Will post pics / specs up when she is finally running and tuned. all ur help greatly appreciated.
Ahhh, i have lost the edge hahaha. Thanks man.Quote:
Originally Posted by will13
All good :) lol
do u guys think this
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/EG-CIVIC-TURB...item35a9bdb007
kit is worth it?
just for a daily ride and for some fun
thats pretty cheap for a turbo kit, but have a talk with the seller he probs knows more about it then me;) good luck
btw awesome avatar:p
so many nice turbo kits for the d16y8, full race prob has the best options though
some days I get tempted to part out my spare bseries parts for a decent kit, insurance company already told me Im going to love the new quote for ethier lol
You selling your car Ryan? what happend to your b18 swap?
hey guys, random question. do you know if the fuel pump out of a duel carb D15B4 is mechanical or electric, Cheers.
electric i believe, altho happy to be corrected
all carbys are mechanicalQuote:
Originally Posted by will13
hmm. makes sense i guess lol
cheers fellas
its just up on interest as several cars I like are on the open market, wouldn't mind one of them in my possessionQuote:
Originally Posted by ekcoupe
ohhh ok cool good luck:thumbsup:
Read Trav's latest blog Ryan,we all go through it!Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
Stick with your car mate :)
How's everyone's d's goin' anyways?
My stage 1 cam didn't jack,if anything it's a bit 'stronger after 100k's but I might do a road trip to Melbourne in sept/oct to see AK Andy for a tune.
My mate will be in melbourne then for 10 weeks working,so I can stay there and go see great ocean rd etc with a TUNED car WOOT WOOT.
Been psyching for a road trip for ages now!
How was your road trip before Ryan?
hey guys, since ure talking about d series, im just curious how much power(kw atw) have people made out of their d series NA????
my d-sries hasnt had much done, mostly cosmetic stuff for my EG However, im getting a cam for a regrnd and im thinking about gettting a VAFC and getting it all tuned im thinking a stage 2 cam from bisi
thoughts?
can u buy stroker kits for d series, like 1.6L > 1.8L
yeah you can and you can get it too 1.7ltr
jus curious, but are D-series normally noisy engine? seems i have a little tappin nose here an there, jus wanted to see if it was normal............engine runs fine and still pulls hard in 1st gear, seems these engine run out of puff above 100km/h
Good engine for what it is, but aftermarket support here is aust is so poor.....
i know what you mean - i have to drive on the freeway to go to work and my nearest freeway you can do 110km so i know what you mean 0 - 100km quite quick but needs more then again its a SOHC so yeah might be time i looked into a turbo setup hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
its probably the tappets that need adjusting to get rid of the noiseQuote:
Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
I had the same problem with mine, as grifty already said the tappets need adjusting use this diy - DIY tappet adjustmentQuote:
Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
cheers man, looks like a good weekend job, when i get a free day off, ill try and do it myself, just hope i don't stuff it up :S
My stage 1 cam didn't jack,if anything it's a bit 'stronger after 100k's but I might do a road trip to Melbourne in sept/oct to see AK Andy for a tune.
brett hahah thats gold
so it didnt what you got told it would do make heaps of power
how much was the camshaft btw?
I wasn't told that LAN.
10-15% increase = no.
Need tuning.
rephase my question brett did bisi says you will get 10% increase ?Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
so did you think you got even 7kw then ?
maybe when you get a tune
Yeah says 10-15% on the website.That's BS.My engine is as good as you'll find,nothing is letting it down.It's simply BS.
I got No kw increase.
$1000 wasted.Pretty harsh for someone who has little money and faith in a name/product aye?!
My only hope now is to get some power out of it with a tune.
My advice is what I read a few times on d-series.org,forget stage 1 and go for stage 2 + valvetrain upgrade or spend the money on a b.
Hi comp pistons would have been a much better choice.
mmm cam :)
if you were going to change the pistons, I'd be changing getting some darton, eagle arms, vitara low comp pistons and playing with boost with a fullrace kit (not sure how much boost an autobox can hold, does make me wonder as I havent seen a thread on it yet)
seen a nice pink boosted civic in my lost travels through a buds estate yesterday, wow is all, so f-ing clean :)
Im not doing crap all to mine apart from a clutch and a leak fixed then focusing on another vehicle for other goals that aren't in any way closely related to the current trend, lol :D
That's what I thought - Mmmm cam.
BUT I ain't doin' jack more.
I got some coilovers almost paid,then tune with e-manage and I'm done.
My car is going Brilliant!
lol should of jsut invested in a B series.
even withotu cams will make more power than a stock D series with cams and pistons done.
investing would be going a k20a (next generation of junk yard parts), I wouldn't use that word for an engine of equal age as the d16
d16 will always be a good platform for many people as it continues its cult like status, just more spare parts lying around for me anyhow :)
just make it handle better mate :), get some bigger brakes, rotors, engineer it and very nicely setup suspension and some tyres with the most road legal grip possible :)
Not really, K series would require a tonne of mods and custom bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
B doesn't and wont cost an arm and a leg.
What cult status is that ? spending same amount as a b series swap to squueze out 1kw max more of power?
Thats not a cult thats just stupid.
I'm not after more power but,well,let me rephrase that..I'm not after b series power,my car with a bit more power will be suffice.I love my engine,everything all good,100% and is going Awesome for me,I'm just after a nice little bump in power that I hoped the cam would give but now I'm sure the tune will do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tai
I don't regret anything,it's been an Awesome journey and I would still like to port out a stock y4 Intake Manifold but how the hell do ya get a dremel in there,where the end of the runners meets the main cylinder?!?
Anyone want to get their car tuned with AK Andy,if we can get 5 people he'll come up,I'm No 1 :)
so is there any gains to be had with a stage 2 cam?
Definately a stage 2.I would upgrade the valvetrain,springs,valves and retainers,bisi now sells this,some dont though and have said it's fine,it's a risk..
Will need tuning too.
dude, you should get out of this thread if you dont like what D ppl are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tai
i know youre suggesting a good advice by going to B series for better bang per buck but seriously.
isn't it annoying when your mates keep on telling you about shit that you don't want?
"tai, get this 20" rims man, it looks good on your car!"
dont post if you dont like. hey, i think i never posted in this thread lol.
I actually have 20" rims on my car.
Noice :)
whats the damge on doing all of that i suppose i would get the head recoed then too?Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
cult status: a following, and as long as bseries are becoming more and more harder to source in good nick anyhow, there'll always be people wanting to boost a d16 for a cheap price and get tonnes of value out of it, I beat the shite out of my car, the b would've succomed by now and f-ed and input bearing by now :) I'm inclided towards engines that do as I say, this has for leading up to 300,000ks, I don't know many b18cr's that have that record... (but I would be interested to hear from people who have high mileage b18cr engines :))
the k is a worthwhile investment if you were inclinded to stay into hondas for the next decade as there's going to be a stack more parts along the way in coming years and they have dropped off in price to do since I've been interested in them as part outs are becoming more and more common like bswaps :)
also "go a bswap, or wouldn't happen if you had a bswap", comments are not at all welcomed in here as this is a place for d-series engines of any generation discussions only :)
Brett, I needa vacation lol
LOL seriously man, where the fk do you get this crap from :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
Live and learn hey beeza. I know you want to stay faithful to the D, but its hard to argue with tried and tested honda tuning methods. IMO if you keep the D, spend the money on the suspension and brake setup instead and at least make it fun to drive. You don't need more power for your application by the sounds of it :thumbsup:
<3 Lan
facepalm.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
I come up with my opinion by uni students selling up often, people with common problems (who cant fking search on this fking forum) and whingers basically
on a daily basis for run of the mill driving there's no looking past a d16 for most people needs lol
spending more is a waste of time Alex...
crap my arse, dollars to donuts I pay less to drive & maintain 1000km+ a wk than others do in a bseries over the same period
they're a workhorse ladies and gentlemen
but in all honesty if you wanted to race, I'd be buying a formula ford or something that's orientated for it (a shite load cheaper too)
a civic at the end of the day is made to go to work, shops, scenic drives, road trips, that's the story really :)
anything else is better spent on other things nowadays (a rather nice place with a view comes to mind :))
O'reillies (spelling) drive bezza :)?
Same hear mate but my life is like a holiday so it's just that I want one,not need one lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
I start Horticulture @ Kingscliff TAFE next week hehehe STOKED.
Yes Alex but with no regrets what so ever,love my d!! It has been a great journey,if the money didn't thin out at the end there,the b would be in my bay but I've let that go,ages ago,so am much free-er now and with a car I truely love,so stoked! :)
a b wouldve been a waste lol
when you have a functional engine there as is :)
interesting subject for TAFE, very future proof job, few buds here are studying alternative energies again via coresspondance, lol
Exactly aye,I probably would have been buying more problems Agagaghaghghhhhhhh NO!!!
I think the amusing point that was made was that B series engine are less reliable.
hehe
Well the d certainly just keeps on going,that's forsure aye Ryan!!
GO tha d!
Hey beez good work on starting at tafe! I have finished uni now and am now in brisbane.
d series 6800 red line b series easy 9k all day
hmmm if my car rev to those revs all day i would be using them too
parts are always going to go on cars fact of life
a motor that can rev to 9k will always have more problems with a car that revs alot less
man talking crap about a motor you never had is always funny
lots of talk on this thread not enough truth and exprience
any way keep doing those mods brett
heres something you should of got
maybe make more power than the cams you got
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...75168892ks.jpg
what what???Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
lol lan you hate d sereis so much do you?
no ive had a few before didnt last long but
if they were such good engines mr honda would of put a sir or type r badge on the car
good for what some people like
but not for what other people who know better
so your agreeing that a Bseries is more likely to have problems?Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
i've not owned a B series so i can't comment but i've owned a few twin cam engines (nissans and toyotas) and i can say from my experance its all about how the engine is used and looked after. i mean i had my car a full 3 days before the radiator top tank split but thats because the car was driven once a week by someone who didn't do the usual checks (oil water etc..) but since i've had it it runs so much better than the first week i had it.
when u get one
come back and answer that question you wouldnt understand some thing you have to exprience yourself
in the meanwhile enjoy your d series
so rather than explain yourself you'd rather be condescending?Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
im not going to bicker about D Vs B Vs K Vs LMNOP im just asking in your experance with both B series and D series which gave you more problems and what were they.
Try helping in the thread man - were all here for teh same reasons...
B and D are both good in terms of reliability, depends how u use and look after it.
But usually engines that make more power will wear out quicker than those with lower compression and not having every last kw squeezed out.
Ive seen a few Bs do over 300,000kms and still going strong.
At the end of the day the majority of ppl will wanna thrash a B series more than a D as you least at have decent power in a B
It's all about how you look after your engine, you all are sounding as though you want to compare reliability without servicing the engine.
If you take care of the engine the engine will take care of you. It's as simple as that.
Both D and B series engines are good. You can obtain any amount of horse power from either engine, it's all about the money you have to spare though.
So all you have to do is look as your finances, choose which engine suits your budget, and go from there.
One engine is not better than another engine when they both have different aplications.
you had info on itbs awhile ago Brett, what ever came of that idea?
Ahahhaha LAN,Love ya mate!! :)
Oh serious?!? Damn man,I call ya soon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio
The ITB's I was looking at were cheap,so it was an idea to do something cheaply,but the design was flawed,not a good design.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
Definately gotta tune aswell $$$
Money is better spent on hi comp pistons etc.
Lots of great ITB's d setup's on d-series.org!
any good videos on there?
just get the rebuild kit with the vitara pistons :)
pretty good value :)
^^ If I was still mod'n/spending money on her I would...but I'm on another venture now! Such is my life!
Horticulture/Kingscliff here I come!
I haven't look for any vids but youtube will have them 'd16 with itb's'.
So I'm just getting the BC coils and tuning.
Here are the coils - http://www.bc-racing.com.au/br-series-coilovers.html
Quote:
Originally Posted by hitoriko
He's saying that he has had more bad experiences with his B's because he doesn't drive them as responsibly as he drives his D's.
Both are reliable when used appropriately. The only thing that makes a B more problematic is the driver.
i never had any problems with my b's because i know how to look after my engines
and even if i drive them they way they should be driven
they are still better than all the claimed perfect d series motors on here
i got rid of my d series motors because of there inferior design and a-b shopping kart design
and are not designed to do what b series motors do
how do you know if your motor is running perfect if you dont work on your car yourself
love to see a d series rev to 9k all day and see if you get any problems
and what it would cost for it to do 9k revs all day
compared to a b18cr
That's one way to reduce your engines power.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
'p76' pistons are the go.d-series guys always talk about em'
isnt using vitara pistons used to lower compression, and useful if ur boosting?
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugen_ctr