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in all honesty moiz, genuine toda is genuine but the fakies seem to be making the same power figures, only thing bad about them i guess is the quality still doesnt have that
toda welds and finish , mind you that didnt stop my toda header from breaking at near the o2 sensor flange.
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2994369
heres the new skunk2 alpha header, great reviews, the midrange match if not beat the toda
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SKUNK2-Me...item415eee74ae
If your after downright power, the bisimoto rep makes the most power in the high range rpm so more suited for drag racers and peak dyno figures
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Acu...item45fb1cc56e
There are also SMSP reps, which is an amazing header with great reviews but it works best on B20 or Built B18C engines
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-Acu...item43a591db99
BTW the seller honda-lab is reputable seller, he has been racing his blue integra for quite sometime and has dipped into the 11's on his B series DC2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ukJxHSRc0
got free springs and shocks from Hondapop so now can start choppn springs and gettin ride height set
to start cuttin and weldin flares on gaurds :)
dont worry wont be drivin on choppies will be gettin coil overs later ..
Thanks for the input guys :)
skunk2 is something I haven't considered. will have to do some research.
otherwise in the end I may just end up saving for TODA's. smsp are the tri-Y's I was talking about, bisimoto "style" ones look good but as you said it's all in the top.
thanks again I will keep these tips in mind.
Put tyre shine on today lol
looks like you have to de-cat your exhaust to fit the skunk2 one. thats a let down, I was starting to seriously consider buying it :(
Why do u have to decat?
inb4racecar.
decat is not an option, you can always cut pipe shorter and reweld.
because the header is designed to bypass the catalytic converter, straight through to the B-pipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by dc2r-0636
Great post sami, the skunk2 alpha one looks interesting!
I know right? gaah if only it didn't require de-catting the exhaust :(Quote:
Originally Posted by DC2-PWR
I suppose you could chop the exhaust but then it'd be hard to re-sell your catback if you decided to change it :/
dc5r, good donor car :D
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...i/IMG_2058.jpg
probably thats why it made more power than toda, because straight through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
dw man you'll figure it out :)
Going k20/24? Is that dc5 dark green?
Ohhh so hes the one that bought that uhh green beast :D
i didnt buy the green beast. i bought the motor setup. and the owner paid me to strip the car down to bare shell so i did that today after pulling the motor.
And alex i wont be going k24/20 frankenstein. Just bought the setup got something planned but we'll see. Might be upgrading dailys :D
Hahaha mad. So jealous man. I'm going Kseries now too.
all these ballers going K swaps
why complain for?
you already got a K
K is awesome, I'd love one, but I've poured to much into my B already haha. though I do love the B series engine sound a lot.
pretty baller spec price tag on K-swaps too huh? :/
Of course its hard to move on from our beloved b series, but kswaps have proven to be fast. Its good now with alot of people experienced with the k series engines, so you know support is just a phone call away! And the k series is sooo good on fuel too!
I think the enjoyment that comes from the swap is worth the cash haha ;) Plus doing it all DIY is where it's at, that's the real fun of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: I'm sure i'm gonna have many questions for you and all the other guys I can talk to hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by 89lude
yeah true that but argh, I just couldn't bring myself to get rid of my B18 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
maybe if the B18 dies eventually I'll get a K :P
All it takes is one single ride in a K powered car and you'll never look at the Bseries the same way ever again haha
i dont think you want to wait for that, my b18c died, if i had of sold it off first i would of had 5k to start off...instead i had to fork out more cash in one hit for the kQuote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
k series just picks up and goes, gear after gear it doesnt disaapoint.
My B20 feels like it has more torque thooo? i guess its due to the heavy duty clutch and mine almost on its way out ?
Nah man doesn't matter for me, too much money and time put into the B18 to turn back. I don't make baller enough wages to do mad projects, I only have what I have because I save money by DIY. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by 89lude
so whats the go with your K-Monster? still selling or keeping?
Well everything is for sale for the right price. But I'm still building the car! Will be slow for awhile, times are tough around xmas/ny. Asking for opinions in my build thread atm before i go forward with few things! But yeah same goes for us, we aint baller or anything just save by diy and learn on the way. I'm a student after all so don't work often either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
haha man you must have to save up cash something epic if you can buy all that awesome stuff while studying! been following both your builds, inspiring stuff man. good on you for DIY'ing everything. I reckon you should keep that teg man, sooo much work put into it so it'd be a shame to see it go so soon :(Quote:
Originally Posted by 89lude
something broke on mine today
finally turned over the k20, worked fine thank god
Another day... another set back.
This one is our fault though. As you all know, we took the K20 out last week, and had it sitting on the ground, then we discovered the threaded head on the K24... so we started pulling that apart, disregarding the K20 all together.
Today we started by pulling the gearbox off the K20... boom... clutch is dead. Glenn confirmed that on side had no meat left on it, and the other had about 1mm. Glenn has told me to ring Direct Clutch in Brisbane and have them repuck the Excedy clutch I have with either a 5 or 6 puck carbotic spring disk. I'll also have them test clamp the pressure plate and see if they can modify the fingers for more clamping pressure. Obviously I'll have my 3.8kg Toda flywheel machined in the process. Hopefully this can all be done before Thursday (We'll be dropping it off on Monday)
So we decided to put the K24 all back together, ready for the gearbox to be mounted, so that we can put it into the car by no later then Friday! It's all going to be very touch and go for us and this build in the next week. The basic run down is:
- New clutch (To above specs) and machined flywheel
- Fit Clutch and flywheel
- Fit engine
- Rewire engine
- Fit sub frame
Hopefully the above can be done by next Friday. The following needs to be done on the Saturday morning :s
- Wheel alignment
- 3' stainless cat back
As most of the work shops in Brisbane are only open till 12pm on a Saturday, I'm not sure how I'm going to go with the Saturday morning stuff... even though the exhaust shop I plan to use is only down the road from my suspension shop.
If all of the above is done, I'll be getting Adrian to tune the car on Monday... YAY!
Anyway... where are some happy snaps of the car. I always love to see engines with all the bits attached to them, so I thought I would mount my Toda headers and my RBC to the engine, just so I can see what it all looks like... before it's hidden in the engine bay.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...a/IMAG0192.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...a/IMAG0193.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...a/IMAG0194.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...a/IMAG0195.jpg
I've also noticed that when I get bad news about the engine (Such as the threaded spark plug and clutch), I start to clean stuff. I've basically degreased the gearbox last week when I found out about the spark plug... and the engine when I heard about the clutch.
This has really got me to thinking of getting rid of aircon, sourcing an electronic steering rack (Thus eliminating the powering steering pump), and going all out with a wire tuck. I'm actually REALLY enjoying all this DIY work I've been doing/helping with, and I wouldn't mind actually building a car to similar specs to something you would probably find in the States.
I took mine to all japan day in silverwater park today. go here to see the pics I took of the cars there:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...l-Call!/page27
probably got some members rides in there somewhere :)
Robi's post just pwns all!
Paint Prep! Just another day when its off the road....
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...g?t=1321444515
restored my type r seat foam. now for a big clean and they should be as good as new :)
da B18c2 decided to shit itself soo pullin it all apart and slowly rebuilding ..
pick up another Skyline in few wks .. but have to get 4 door cause of baby :( .. all good tho
what skyline? V35?
na i need boost again .. R34 Gt-T or if i can find a R32 with RB25 converted will get that
32 sedans are yummy but not many around it seems
Tried dropping my car off at heasmans - parts not in. Tried
Dropping off at panel beaters, too busy :/ fail
Minor service at hannys
Regased A/C
Bought new engine mount
Full tank of BP ultimate =D
did hannys regas your AC
or did you go to midas around the corner
Went to C.P auto electrical down the road
was told to go there by hannys
turns out previous owner did the car there too
Drove it
This is special for 2 reasons:
1 - I haven't driven it for 3 weeks
2 - It now has K24 under the bonnet
report?
good, bad, ugly?
Where is the Epic option?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
looking forward to more info when it's made available....
3' stainless cat back tomorrow morning at 7:30, then off to get a tune by Adrian in the afternoon.
Using the following mods, the car is stupidly quick, and doesn't even feel like it's being pushed
- K20a2 tune by Adrian
- Toda headers
- Mugen Twin loop cat back (Which fouls on the chassis :( )
- Pod-on-a-pipe (Mugen Airbox doesn't fit any more:( )
Oh man, so keen to hear more about this Robi!
very interesting indeed
Can't go wrong with Adrian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
Pictures say more then words?
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...21523896_n.jpg
157kw naice
Stock motor apart from 50^ VTC, ITR oil pump and baffled sump? Anyhting else im missing?
Man that's wicked!
Mods:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
- K20 Oil pump
- Baffled sump
- 50' VTC
- RBC - Ported and honed to 70mm
- 70mm Throttle body
- Pod-on-a-pipe intake
- Toda headers
- 200cel cat
- 3' cat back
- Tuned by Adrian
Adrian did get it to 160kw, but there was some slight pinging, so he put it back to 156kw tune. This is the reason I get him to do ALL my tuning... because he tunes the car to be driven, not to make power.
Also, as you can see from the torque curve, it makes the same torque across the entire power band... so while you drive it, there is no major spike in power, just nice and smooth.
So much win right there mate, excellent work! I'd be so proud of that. Must be a lot of fun to drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by 45SET
How does it compare to the K20? And the what is it revving to, 7800 orso?
I am. And considering that I had a hand in part of the work, even if it was only cleaning parts, holding stuff or tightening bolts, I am proud of the fact that I can stand back, look at the car and say "I built that". It's very fun to drive. It's predictable, and you can put your foot down, in any gear, at any RPM, and it just pulls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
Comparing to the K20... The K20 didn't have anywhere near as much torque below 4k as the K24, and there was a big change in power delivery after 4k. The K24 just keeps pulling, it's really smooth. Yeah, rev limiter is set at 7800, but I try to shift at like 7500.
Awesome work man, love it. I think it deserves it's own thread! I want to see more!
There's no better feeling than doing the work yourself, that's for sure. It's satisfying as hell. I'm planning on doing this exact same swap except into an EG... Can only imagine how much fun it will be!
Keep it up mate, good to see it done and done properly :thumbsup:
keep your dc2 , its clean and still has that new feel. why downgrade to eg
impressive figures there 45set, real solid build i can see that, best time on the quarter?
Power to weight + $$$
wow 156kw atw... thats crazy. very impressed with his tuning, he got just short of an extra 20kw over mine... :(
How does your torque figure/line compare to Robi's?Quote:
Originally Posted by 89lude
Thanks. Previously my best time was a 14.7 when the car was almost stock. So with this set up I would be hoping for a low 13... MPH would def be in the 120 region.Quote:
Originally Posted by ishen
I always have Adrian do my tuning. He did say he was still learning the k24 and that when he gets back to Sydney, he was going tho be ringing a customer with a K24 he tuned to tell him he had learnt a bit with my car.Quote:
Originally Posted by 89lude
Good power but I doubt u would hit 120 mph down the quarter lol. That's almost 200kph u need atleast 250kw atw to hit that trap speed.
Im no expert alex but i think my power curve looks a bit more fatter due to a bit more down low (although he's probs making more power throughout the rev range anyway, just his power graph is much more peaky looking.)
And in terms of torque i'm making more down low but he's making more up top, mines a bit flatter looking too.
changed back to stock rims and nrg quick release installed
The late model k24 engines tend to make more power. Was that a AUTO motor or manual motor i supplied you?Quote:
Originally Posted by 45SET
We have a EP3 with k24 only difference is 2.5' exhaust and stock k24 oil pump and its making tad over 150kw atw. So adding k20 oil pump and 3' it should get close to the power you got out of your k24.
finally you got the quick release in rob, did you work it out easy?Quote:
Originally Posted by p3akin
yeah worked out very easy lol. just been lazy. fitted in as you told me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by VTI-RRR
kswap finally done !!!!
pics and specs noa!Quote:
Originally Posted by tripleuse
yiiiieeeeezzzzzzzQuote:
Originally Posted by tripleuse
very goot man
need them pics, vids etc
had a bit of troubles but benny byp helped me out; when i first started i had a vac leak and the lines going into the FPR was the wrong way round. all sweet but its making a whilstle noise like a supercharger, im not to sure what it is. i suspect the exhaust leak, need to sus it out. ****ing still got exams so it might be awhile.ill upload some pics later :) the main specs are : k20z1 6 speed RBC bored to 70 mm with 70 mm throttle body CAI 3 inch catback, soon to have it kprod and tuned,interior is stripped except carpet. also retaining both air con and ps.only runnin 195 tires at the moment ha ha.
hahaha i didnt know you were that lazy lol, glad the way i told you worked out easy (:Quote:
Originally Posted by p3akin
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...77648808_n.jpg
That was the start of a roughly 2 hour drive...
looks like a cool mountain road, wish that kind of thing existed near canberra :/
That's Mt Nebo... which connects to Mt Glourious or Mt Mee... all are AWESOME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
wow how far did you go to make a 2 hour drive? I bet you loved the new torque up there :D