Ozhonda Post Quality System / Knowledgable Posts

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

And if you dish out incorrect info you get - points taken off.

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No Offence intended Ben, but how does someone like you get 4+ blocks ?

As for me, this isn't my livelihood. I don't care anymore. I just come here now for the for sale section. Adrian has a point, and further to his comments, I believe the technical section should be scrapped. There are ZERO technical posts in those porums, and nothing that cant be relocated to the car sections.
At least that way, those aching for technical knowledge don't have their hopes falsely overinflated.
Take my post in there, it's actually quite trivial, but look at the level of response. Aside from a select few (those mostly with 1 or 2 blocks) are the main contributors. Ironic.

anyway....I'm buying a Porsche. Might check out some Porsche forums instead. At least there its probable I wont find a dagger in my back from my own cousin.

^I think what you and Adrian are trying to work out, is how people with supposed “lower” knowledge level are able to have more green blocks than yourselves (professionals in the field of mechanics)?

Answer is simple, they post more than you.

They have more blocks as they post more “helpful” information than the pros in this forum.
If you posted more, you’d be rewarded by the members who read your posts.

Blocks don’t mean which member knows more, or is more educated or qualified, it’s an indicator of who’s more helpful – based on members’ judgement.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

No Offence intended Ben, but how does someone like you get 4+ blocks ?

As for me, this isn't my livelihood. I don't care anymore. I just come here now for the for sale section. Adrian has a point, and further to his comments, I believe the technical section should be scrapped. There are ZERO technical posts in those porums, and nothing that cant be relocated to the car sections.
At least that way, those aching for technical knowledge don't have their hopes falsely overinflated.
Take my post in there, it's actually quite trivial, but look at the level of response. Aside from a select few (those mostly with 1 or 2 blocks) are the main contributors. Ironic.

anyway....I'm buying a Porsche. Might check out some Porsche forums instead. At least there its probable I wont find a dagger in my back from my own cousin.

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Its pure luck Evan. People either like or dont like your posts ~ and as said much before you post more you get the rep points. But if anyone makes a mistake or false information then you get a neg. rep duh :cool:
This "system" is governed by the people not the owner/moderators or even any individual here.

BTW the technical section is for general enquiries ( IE non model specific) and is hardly a place for technical debate. Its mostly problems that are quite vauge and havent been covered before too much.

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

Its pure luck Evan. People either like or dont like your posts ~ and as said much before you post more you get the rep points. But if anyone makes a mistake or false information then you get a neg. rep duh :cool:
This "system" is governed by the people not the owner/moderators or even any individual here.

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On saying that i guess if you are liked more by people or have a lot of friends then it wouldn't matter how accurate your posts were as you'd get rep points from them anyhow.

This makes me think that the whole idea of rep points is kinda a useless feature that should probably be scrapped.

If you wanted to block people from posting in the for sale forums thats easy. make the lounge posts not count towards totals and moderate the other forums to not tolerate spam.
then when someone hits their 50 or 100 posts they can access the for sale forums.

But this isn't as easy as adding a rep point quota instead.

I fully agree with Evan in regards to places like OH becoming popularity contests and not what you know but who you know and who's toes you have trodden on. {this is not a racist comment} but unless you are Asian on here it is kinda hard to follow the running dialogue sometimes. Again another form of unless you are in a set crowd your not accepted. {and please DON'T try to tell me that this is not the case because i have seen it way too many times}

There are those of us that know a lot of stuff that we can pass onto others but when we do and in some cases it goes against a sponsor or someones friend. Then the bitch fighting and name calling starts. We don't need this kinda petty crap. Usually this results in people not bothering to post at all.

If people would use the search bar for example 80% of questions would have already been covered.
Hell its not like the Honda range is THAT huge.
and most mods are the same old same old.

To sum it all up i liked hondas for the fact they were a great car to drive and not the status symbol. I also like the fact that IF you are a true driver you accept the person for the car and not what they look like. Its just a shame that the community is so bias and pig headed. kinda plays right into the anti ricers hands.

What do you guys think about not seeing post count anymore?

Being a mod I get to see post count and find it useful (not to guage knowlede but more as a rough guide to contribution).

As for the rep system - that can always be changed if enough people don't like it. I don't use it as a basis for determining knowledge and can understand why some people are not supporters of it.

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

BTW the technical section is for general enquiries ( IE non model specific) and is hardly a place for technical debate. Its mostly problems that are quite vauge and havent been covered before too much.

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A technical section for general enquiries?
Dumbfounded! I am in awe of that comment!

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

On saying that i guess if you are liked more by people or have a lot of friends then it wouldn't matter how accurate your posts were as you'd get rep points from them anyhow.

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I don't agree. I admit that I am not a mechanic (Honda or otherwise). I am still learning as I go along. I check my last 15 PQ points given to me and I don't even know any of them nor have chatted to them outside of a technical/model sections (they are not even people that I know from the Lounge). So I don't agree that that you get more points if you are liked or if you have a lot of friends here. If your type of posts are too technical, then your scope of audience is narrower. But that's the thing, people come on to Ozhonda for help because they don't have the technical background. They want help for simple problems. And it is those simple problems that the real mechanics and technical people here choose to ignore. That is the reason why others get more points. It's because they take the time to help someone with a question as simple as "what colour is OEM brake fluid".

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

I fully agree with Evan in regards to places like OH becoming popularity contests and not what you know but who you know and who's toes you have trodden on. {this is not a racist comment} but unless you are Asian on here it is kinda hard to follow the running dialogue sometimes. Again another form of unless you are in a set crowd your not accepted. {and please DON'T try to tell me that this is not the case because i have seen it way too many times}

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That's only in the lounge. And points that are given in the lounge are not counted anyway.

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

There are those of us that know a lot of stuff that we can pass onto others but when we do and in some cases it goes against a sponsor or someones friend. Then the bitch fighting and name calling starts. We don't need this kinda petty crap. Usually this results in people not bothering to post at all.

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True, when I see a bitch fight starting, I pull out and stop posting unless I am really passionate about the topic. But yeah, it does happen and what we've been trying to do is just to shut down the thread before it gets worse. Usually it results in an ultra-rude PM from the offender.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

A technical section for general enquiries?
Dumbfounded! I am in awe of that comment!

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That's because ECU tuning and engine work is under the "All Motor" and/or "Forced Induction" sections.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

anyway....I'm buying a Porsche. Might check out some Porsche forums instead. At least there its probable I wont find a dagger in my back from my own cousin.

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make sure you post up pics if ya do :)

i'd like to see it.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

That's because ECU tuning and engine work is under the "All Motor" and/or "Forced Induction" sections.

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uh?
Either i'm missing a few screws and don't comprehend english very well, or you mods are onto some good whacky tobaccy...

I honestly do not understand what you guys are trying to say.

Doesn't matter really. Lets move on.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

uh?
Either i'm missing a few screws and don't comprehend english very well, or you mods are onto some good whacky tobaccy...

I honestly do not understand what you guys are trying to say.

Doesn't matter really. Lets move on.

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Sorry, I thought your speciality was in engine and ECU tuning... I meant to say that Ben meant that any technical enquiry that does not fall into the categories of engine, ecu, suspension and model specific get put into the technical section. So simple questions like "which cable do I tap for a 12v supply" still fall into the technical section eventhough it is not a true technical question. For the really silly ones like "why do my wipers skip", we not have the noob section. Do you frequent the threads in the noob section? That's where members who are totally clueless need the most help. And they are the ones who are really appreciative of any good help that they can get and give out PQ points to show that.

*puts down whack tobaccy* :D

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

If you wanted to block people from posting in the for sale forums thats easy. make the lounge posts not count towards totals and moderate the other forums to not tolerate spam.
then when someone hits their 50 or 100 posts they can access the for sale forums.

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we had a similar system in place before the introduction of PQ points. all it did was encourage spam in serious/tech threads as lounge posts have not attributed to post counts for some time now

you could clearly see people stop their spamming as soon as they hit got their member status and were allowed to sell

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

There are those of us that know a lot of stuff that we can pass onto others but when we do and in some cases it goes against a sponsor or someones friend. Then the bitch fighting and name calling starts. We don't need this kinda petty crap. Usually this results in people not bothering to post at all.

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lol most of the 'bitch fighting' in tech sections is from the traders/tuners, including toda au and proecu that are here complaining about this pq system
(not having a dig but they both know it's true :))

as aarong said the members with very high technical knowledge 'generally' only post in threads regarding tune's or engine builds (or their for sale threads in the case of traders).... not the average joe schmoe post about some concern they have with their daily run around

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

If people would use the search bar for example 80% of questions would have already been covered.
Hell its not like the Honda range is THAT huge.
and most mods are the same old same old.

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lol nobody searches, never have, never will
it's just a sad fact of life :thumbdwn:

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

I also like the fact that IF you are a true driver you accept the person for the car and not what they look like. Its just a shame that the community is so bias and pig headed. kinda plays right into the anti ricers hands.

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i may be misinterpreting this comment but it seems you are implying that the majority asian posters you mentioned before are not accepting of non-asians of the forum?