Ozhonda Post Quality System / Knowledgable Posts

[SiReal]

IMO, the rep system is inherently flawed…
Enthusiasm has replaced knowledge & experience.

I ask that forum members’ day job be displayed under the points shown…
Who they work for & what they do there…
(I doubt it would be implemented & no doubt most would lie to hide the truth)
It would certainly add weight to the rep system though.

E.g.:
Rep points ***** (Shining beacon of light & all that shit)
Day job – Roses only - Florist

Rep points * (Knows a thing or two)
Day job – BAR Honda - Chief engineer

FFS, Internet + personal information don't mix!?

some people learn from experience by doing DIYs, experimenting and providing answers to those that are in similar situations. Just because someone is a florist does not mean they do not have the experience.

working for Honda, or mechanic or knowing how to put an engine together does not mean shit when you have the ego and attitude to match it.

btw, please don't take this as a personal attack on your behalf. Peace

[A.G.System]

With the PQ system they HAVE to help another person out in order to earn the right to sell.

See the problem there is that if you know a few mates on the forum and you have only just signed up then they can just PQ point you and your set to go.

The same problem is when you give noobs the power to remove PQ points without having any themselves.

You could be the most knowledgeable person about subject A but if a noob doesn't have any idea but disagrees with you because they think the sky is green or whatever they have the power to remove points.

The inherent problem that i see here is that unless you can make it, to add a point the person that adds it must have posted in the same forum and some indicator comes up in the post that rep point was given (This then allows moderators the ability to remove said point if just spam). And to remove points the person must be either a mod or at a higher level than the poster.

That way people are judged by their peers and not randoms that THINK they have a clue (99% of the time only to have said random shot down by many others).

[SiReal]

From what I've seen since the introduction of the PQ system is they are only taken away when the user is being a jerk/prick. Not from misinformation.

And its a given. mates will give to mates Its also a shame because u always see the same ppl giving advice. And u can't continuously rep them due to system constraints.

[Q_ball]

The same problem is when you give noobs the power to remove PQ points without having any themselves.

Actually, those that dont have 20 PQ points, DONT affect other members at all

[A.G.System]

you may want to check that.

[TODA AU]

Win… Yeah, I guess that’s fair comment…

FFS, Internet + personal information don't mix!?

some people learn from experience by doing DIYs, experimenting and providing answers to those that are in similar situations. Just because someone is a florist does not mean they do not have the experience.
working for Honda, or mechanic or knowing how to put an engine together does not mean shit when you have the ego and attitude to match it.
btw, please don't take this as a personal attack on your behalf. Peace

LOL… No offence taken. (I must admit I am stirring the pot a little as its kind of fun)

I agree with what you say for the most parts,
However I don’t think perceptions of ego & or attitude shouldn’t play a part.
Say someone (that by all accounts is a total prick) tells you exactly what is wrong with your car & how to fix it.
Just because he’s not popular, should his attitude really have any bearing whether or not he is perceived to know what he’s talking about.

Apologies to all the florists among us… No offence intended.

[bennjamin]

There are quite a few "pricks" on this forum which not everyone likes
~ but people still listen to them since (issues/conflicts) are not personal.
Prick or not ~ if you have something useful at the right time , then you will get the +rep.
Its luck and timing really
Keep helping out and you will eventually get + more points.
And if you dish out incorrect info you get - points taken off.

[yourfather]

Say someone (that by all accounts is a total prick) tells you exactly what is wrong with your car & how to fix it.
Just because he’s not popular, should his attitude really have any bearing whether or not he is perceived to know what he’s talking about.

well, i guess - if someone knows their stuff, and tells you exactly what is wrong with your car and how to fix it, regardless of their attitude towards it, I would still give it a rep point.

I'd rather not have some happy little love fest about who is better and blah blah blah. But I'd hope that people who were on here, were just as enthusiastic about helping others, because thats what makes it a community.

Let's say that everyone with the knowledge to help others on this forum is arrogant, aggressive and really rude, although correct in their assumption.

Specifically in your case - as a trader. The way people treat others can reflect on things like sales........

His attitude shouldn't have any bearing on what he or she knows about, but it could affect how he or she is perceived.

[Q_ball]

you may want to check that.

I know it to be a fact

[panda[cRx]]

^ i concour

another thing you guys are forgetting about receiving negative PQ points is that you can always ask a mod/admin about it.
if someone is misusing the PQ points system REPORT IT.... i'm pretty sure mods/admin wont take it lightly

[yourfather]

I know people who have been banned for it

[wynode]

The same problem is when you give noobs the power to remove PQ points without having any themselves.

You need to have atleast 50 PQ points before you can affect another users PQ points.

you may want to check that.

Just double checked that and Q is correct. If you can show me otherwise let me know and I'll check it out.

another thing you guys are forgetting about receiving negative PQ points is that you can always ask a mod/admin about it.
if someone is misusing the PQ points system REPORT IT.... i'm pretty sure mods/admin wont take it lightly

Exactly. We take abuse of the system VERY seriously and that is one reason it incurrs 10 infraction points (out of a total of 20, when an automatic ban is issued).