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26-07-2011, 04:24 PM
TheSaint

if the engine is obd1 and the car already has a vtec engine than labor wont be very much at all
26-07-2011, 06:10 PM
NelsonLSY

would that be OBD1? that's a Del Sol shell
26-07-2011, 07:23 PM
bob carrr

is a d16y8 any fun?
26-07-2011, 07:46 PM
TheSaint

pretty sure the Del Sol is OBD1 - what year is the shell?

what kind of question is that bob carrr??
any engine can be 'fun' inside or outside of a car lol

the D16y8 is pretty much the best D-series platform you can get
but in australia it only came in the EJ8 Coupe Vti
26-07-2011, 07:58 PM
bob carrr

lol, idk.. i'm new to this whole vtec thing..
26-07-2011, 09:57 PM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

is a d16y8 any fun?

is it fun? ummm for a daily yes it is :)

add some boost, it will be even more fun :D
26-07-2011, 10:19 PM
bob carrr

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugen_ctr

is it fun? ummm for a daily yes it is :)

add some boost, it will be even more fun :D

or should i jsut get a b18c to start with? : )
26-07-2011, 10:26 PM
Chriskoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by beeza

Yes,it'll be fine Chris!

Nulon 5W-40 + Liqiud moly's low friction oil treatment is the bomb combo!

(bit late reply..)

Thanks mate! Can always count on you for sound advice!
26-07-2011, 10:38 PM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

or should i jsut get a b18c to start with? : )

each to their own :)

Ive seen to many b-swaps, might as well just start off with a b-swap car, makes more sense doesnt it? lol

Boosting a d-series is in a nut shell, different here in the land down under.... or better yet Supercharging em :D
27-07-2011, 12:22 AM
TheSaint

D-series are fun because they are cheap and easy to build

but B-series are better all round because they have vtec on the exhaust cam as well as the intake - D-series only have it on the intake side
B-series have much better torque potential and tunability - but they are alot more costly and demanding on higher quality parts
27-07-2011, 07:46 AM
beeza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chriskoss

Thanks mate! Can always count on you for sound advice!

Ah cheers mate.

Yeah liquid molys engine oil flush is worth doing for $15 too,great products liquid moly.

Try the upper cylinder head cleaner,U just put it in the fuel tank,cleans the upper engine real good :)
27-07-2011, 03:45 PM
TheSaint

subaru upper engine spray is a great product as well - cleans out the intake manifold, throttlebody and gets into the ports + valves as well =)
27-07-2011, 07:02 PM
beeza

Yeah definately cant hurt doing both.

'Super Engine conditioner' is the same as Suburu UEC.
27-07-2011, 11:40 PM
bob carrr

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+
29-07-2011, 12:29 AM
NelsonLSY

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

pretty sure the Del Sol is OBD1 - what year is the shell?

what kind of question is that bob carrr??
any engine can be 'fun' inside or outside of a car lol

the D16y8 is pretty much the best D-series platform you can get
but in australia it only came in the EJ8 Coupe Vti

that's 1992 but as I could see it's a B16A2 and some paint off from the rocker cover....it might has been overheated before?
07-08-2011, 11:27 PM
NelsonLSY

hey guys, is there any chance that a D17A engine from 2000 civic could be fitted into an EG straight?
I find them way cheaper than the D16Y1
thanks~
08-08-2011, 12:09 AM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+

serious man? lol ej8 is a big down grade imo... even though i have one, BUT ive done bit of work to get were it is....

Were as a dc2, u already have all the basics down, good supportive seats, good engine, B18c2, more power/torque, jus so much more than a civic coupe!

BUT thats not to say the ej8 is a bad car, with a bit of work, its just as good as any other honda sports car ;)
08-08-2011, 01:51 PM
~Sp33~

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

D-series are fun because they are cheap and easy to build

but B-series are better all round because they have vtec on the exhaust cam as well as the intake

Maybe that's because vtec d series have only one cam lol
08-08-2011, 02:16 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+

its hard to say really - the Dc2 will be a better car all round - much better base to work with

200k kms isnt really a bad thing - mine had 230 on it when i started working on it and it basically felt brand new
depends on how it is kept/driven/serviced

the EJ8 could have lower kms - but not looked after

u need to inspect both and find out which is the better car
08-08-2011, 02:17 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Sp33~

Maybe that's because vtec d series have only one cam lol

i meant the lobes lol - there is only vtec on the intake side - not the exhaust side

i wonder how hard it would be to have it on both sides ... the spark plug guides would get in the way =/
08-08-2011, 03:03 PM
Banana_hammock

If you're looking at transplanting a dohc engine into what was originally sohc, there's obvious benefits but huge cost for new ecu, brakes and what not :S but good idea to have vtec options on both intake and exhaust
14-08-2011, 03:01 PM
oddyseeh

good s
14-08-2011, 07:02 PM
Sexc86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana_hammock

If you're looking at transplanting a dohc engine into what was originally sohc, there's obvious benefits but huge cost for new ecu, brakes and what not :S but good idea to have vtec options on both intake and exhaust

I think people have got the slight incorrect impression of SOHC Vtec. Its not simply that intake has vtec and exhaust does not... It is a Vtec engine, variable valve timing or valve overlap etc. Its just simply with the SOHC only the intake valves profile changes (the timing in which the valve opens and its duration etc) when vtec is engaged.. The DOHC both intake & exhaust have separate profiles for both on and off vtec.

Read more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#SOHC_VTEC
14-08-2011, 07:04 PM
Sexc86

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

i meant the lobes lol - there is only vtec on the intake side - not the exhaust side

i wonder how hard it would be to have it on both sides ... the spark plug guides would get in the way =/

Correct
15-08-2011, 12:10 PM
dougie_504

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexc86

I think people have got the slight incorrect impression of SOHC Vtec. Its not simply that intake has vtec and exhaust does not... It is a Vtec engine, variable valve timing or valve overlap etc. Its just simply with the SOHC only the intake valves profile changes (the timing in which the valve opens and its duration etc) when vtec is engaged.. The DOHC both intake & exhaust have separate profiles for both on and off vtec.

Read more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#SOHC_VTEC

Pretty much exactly like what we were saying, only you said it differently. The SOHC VTEC doesn't effect the exhaust valves, so in what way does the SOHC VTEC effect the exhaust? It doesn't really. SOHC VTEC effects intake only.

You just have to assume that the standard exhaust flow of the SOHC D can cope with the increased flow during VTEC, which it surely can, but if you want to optimise your power output with a built head (cams, ported etc) then you'd have to worry about the standard exhaust flow and therefore oversized exhaust valves are probably an excellent idea, whereas many manufacturers believe this is not the case for the B-series.
15-08-2011, 03:03 PM
TheSaint

im still on the fence with changing the valves in my head build

would i have to oversize both intake and exhaust or can i just oversize the exhaust side?
15-08-2011, 05:56 PM
Sexc86

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougie_504

Pretty much exactly like what we were saying, only you said it differently. The SOHC VTEC doesn't effect the exhaust valves, so in what way does the SOHC VTEC effect the exhaust? It doesn't really. SOHC VTEC effects intake only.

You just have to assume that the standard exhaust flow of the SOHC D can cope with the increased flow during VTEC, which it surely can, but if you want to optimise your power output with a built head (cams, ported etc) then you'd have to worry about the standard exhaust flow and therefore oversized exhaust valves are probably an excellent idea, whereas many manufacturers believe this is not the case for the B-series.

i know mate but "Sohc vtec only has vtec on intake valves" is poorly worded and does not really make much sense to me. haha
15-08-2011, 06:24 PM
trism

How is that poorly worded? It describes exactly how it works, nice and simply
15-08-2011, 09:09 PM
dougie_504

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

im still on the fence with changing the valves in my head build

would i have to oversize both intake and exhaust or can i just oversize the exhaust side?

I've also been wondering this the last few weeks since we started talking about it in your build thread.

Why don't you email the guys at Endyn and ask?

I don't think it's worth it TBH unless you're running a decently aggressive cam profile, in which case I'd do both. But funding isn't an issue for me, so if you're trying to stick to a budget (and an OEM cam of some sort) then I'd just use regular valves.
16-08-2011, 03:04 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by trism

How is that poorly worded? It describes exactly how it works, nice and simply

i agree ... sexc86 ur saying pretty much the same thing as us just in a different way - stop being pedantic
16-08-2011, 03:05 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougie_504

I've also been wondering this the last few weeks since we started talking about it in your build thread.

Why don't you email the guys at Endyn and ask?

I don't think it's worth it TBH unless you're running a decently aggressive cam profile, in which case I'd do both. But funding isn't an issue for me, so if you're trying to stick to a budget (and an OEM cam of some sort) then I'd just use regular valves.

im probably just going to leave it stock for now and see how it all goes down the track ... dont wanna get carried away - especially on a budget and it being my first major head/build work
22-08-2011, 05:50 AM
beeza

I fell in love last night.

A dream drive:

http://www.d-series.org/forums/showc...d16-build.html

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/y...4/IMG_8435.jpg

Check out how incredibly the car corners,Insane.

http://enmoracing.wordpress.com/category/videos/
22-08-2011, 03:03 PM
TheSaint

haha yeah iv seen that - insane build =)
22-08-2011, 04:35 PM
trism

lol, i was reading that last night as well, insane.
22-08-2011, 05:22 PM
beeza

haha nice!

What a car aye!
23-08-2011, 12:41 AM
TbM

Nice find beeza, Looks like an awesome exhaust manifold, putting out some decent Hp and torque for a d series, Have you thought about going FI?
24-08-2011, 04:18 PM
beeza

Yeah I have and I still do lol it would be sweet.

My journey has been sweet but,I cant complain.

I just havent got the spare money to do it and if I did I would do something else with it I mean I feel my car will last and I dont want to risk that either...more money...

At the end of the day I love my car and how it performs! Boost would be good to overtake quickly but :) hehehe
24-08-2011, 05:16 PM
redefine

i woudnt mind boost either, would consider it before an engine swap....but unfortunately my financial situation has been less then ideal lately... :/ ahh well...
24-08-2011, 09:36 PM
JDM-derek

when a d series beats or keeps up wit a b16, makes me proud and i have tears =)
25-08-2011, 05:32 AM
beeza

haha yeah,nice one Derek!

It would give the b16 guy tears aswell lol

I just make turbo noises when I overtake Ahahahahaha (it's true hahahahaha)
25-08-2011, 06:20 AM
TbM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM-derek

when a d series beats or keeps up wit a b16, makes me proud and i have tears =)

:thumbsup:

Lol beeza would be funny seeing you making a spooling sound while overtaking someone,
25-08-2011, 06:30 AM
beeza

I'm gettin' better too!

I can make a few :)

I Love the BIG WHOOOOOSH one,just my own sound lol
25-08-2011, 06:36 AM
TbM

Lol we need to get you a megaphone :)
25-08-2011, 04:09 PM
dougie_504

Lol I do that too, sometimes I'm not even driving, just walking around at work. FFFFFFFF-T-T-T-T!!
25-08-2011, 07:44 PM
TbM

http://youtu.be/No_kbFvG_S4
28-08-2011, 08:12 PM
JDM-derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by TbM

Lol we need to get you a megaphone :)

LOL! I once AUX my Iphone with that Boost app, and put my sound system full blast lol.
29-08-2011, 07:18 PM
u mad?

d series owners= weird as fuk
29-08-2011, 11:50 PM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

d series owners= weird as fuk

says the troll with the K20 GTFO LOL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
30-08-2011, 03:13 AM
TbM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

d series owners= weird as fuk

http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/.../ib98c9jpg.gif
30-08-2011, 10:17 AM
JDM-derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

d series owners= weird as fuk

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...ldz3o1_500.gif
31-08-2011, 01:42 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

d series owners= weird as fuk

close the door on your way out of this thread ...
31-08-2011, 01:58 PM
beeza

lol Saint
01-09-2011, 05:14 PM
TheSaint

http://files.sharenator.com/Gtfo_Bit...-76434-580.jpg
03-09-2011, 01:26 AM
1996_EK_Civic

bump for the D,

i've been searching around for a little bit tonight... i'm tossing up whether to get a lightweight flywheel for my y8 and i was wondering what an ideal weight for daily driving would be?

i know i'll probably get flamed for not searching properly but... theres almost 1500 posts in this thread alone plus the rest of the interwebz

any help would be great :)
03-09-2011, 12:06 PM
Killa From Manila

lol @ all the d series owners so buthurt
03-09-2011, 02:45 PM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1996_EK_Civic

bump for the D,

i've been searching around for a little bit tonight... i'm tossing up whether to get a lightweight flywheel for my y8 and i was wondering what an ideal weight for daily driving would be?

i know i'll probably get flamed for not searching properly but... theres almost 1500 posts in this thread alone plus the rest of the interwebz

any help would be great :)

nah its better you asked

check out gripforce member on ebay - he sells a great range of clutch and flywheel packages
the common two are the 10lbs exedy flywheel and the 7lbs fidanza one
i wouldnt go any lighter than 10lbs for daily driving - i have it on my D15b7 and it does suck a little in carparks or 1st gear driving
after 1st gear its amazing tho - one of the best mods i have done to the car so far
7lbs would be great for track - but would be bloody terrible for daily driving

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EXEDY-RAC...item230d624f41
03-09-2011, 06:23 PM
mugen_ctr

Lighten flywheel should be the least concern on a daily imo.... theres a reason why its at that weight and wheel mass from the factory.... the less wheel mass, the less energy the flywheel can store and release, makes sense doesnt it... id say stick to oem flywheel unless u plan on doin more N/A mods later down the track
03-09-2011, 06:29 PM
TheSaint

you will loose a small amount of low end torque - but the engine builds revs much quicker to get up into power band earlier
so personally i think its worth the change
03-09-2011, 06:58 PM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

you will loose a small amount of low end torque - but the engine builds revs much quicker to get up into power band earlier
so personally i think its worth the change

well considering u actually have one, its more than enough proof to get one lol, in theory though from what ive been taught, never touch lighted flywheel unless using for competition
03-09-2011, 10:28 PM
NelsonLSY

anyone who bring their D series Civic on track here?
04-09-2011, 06:10 PM
Riced_Civic

i used to bring my turbo D, but its now been retired to daily duties.
04-09-2011, 07:47 PM
1996_EK_Civic

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSaint

nah its better you asked

check out gripforce member on ebay - he sells a great range of clutch and flywheel packages
the common two are the 10lbs exedy flywheel and the 7lbs fidanza one
i wouldnt go any lighter than 10lbs for daily driving - i have it on my D15b7 and it does suck a little in carparks or 1st gear driving
after 1st gear its amazing tho - one of the best mods i have done to the car so far
7lbs would be great for track - but would be bloody terrible for daily driving

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EXEDY-RAC...item230d624f41

thanks for that man, does 'gripforce' ship to Aus?
is there any brands go for or to watch out for?
04-09-2011, 08:15 PM
markismaximus

Quote:

Originally Posted by NelsonLSY

anyone who bring their D series Civic on track here?

yep

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...ide/Civic5.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...ide/Civic3.jpg
05-09-2011, 10:45 AM
TheSaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1996_EK_Civic

thanks for that man, does 'gripforce' ship to Aus?
is there any brands go for or to watch out for?

yes they do - thats where i got my setup
get Exedy they are damn good value for money
05-09-2011, 09:04 PM
NelsonLSY

nice, just curious what mods have you got there :)
I have just brough my EG VTi on track with just tyres and susp. mods
06-09-2011, 06:28 PM
markismaximus

Quote:

Originally Posted by NelsonLSY

nice, just curious what mods have you got there :)
I have just brough my EG VTi on track with just tyres and susp. mods

AUDM ED Civic converted to EFI
D16Y1 swap
Running OEM CRX instake with K&N panel filter
Exedy HD clutch
2" 5zigen mandrel bent cat-back
15mm DA rear swaybar with EG VTi LCAs
Skunk2 Pro-C coilovers
EG VTi disc brakes front and rear (EBC green stuff on the front, OEM on the rear)
All control arm and suspension bushes replaced with Energy suspension polyurethane
Running 205/50/15 toyo R888s when out
06-09-2011, 09:03 PM
NelsonLSY

Just realise there's oil leaking between the head and the block, but only at the left handside....
would that be just the problem of the seal? (can't see any oil in the coolant, plz not the head gasket :( )
06-09-2011, 09:05 PM
~Sp33~

I bet your distributor O ring is leaking and collecting there.
06-09-2011, 09:48 PM
NelsonLSY

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Sp33~

I bet your distributor O ring is leaking and collecting there.

but im pretty sure that's engine oil cuz the oil level has dropped pretty much
and not burning oil (I have just swapped the engine not long ago and brought it back from track)
07-09-2011, 10:25 AM
~Sp33~

Engine oil leaks out of the o ring. The distributor doesn't have it's own oil source lol.
07-09-2011, 06:09 PM
ouch

anyone know where i can get a replacement o ring? distributer o ring...
07-09-2011, 06:18 PM
trism

Straight from honda, should be a few dollars.
07-09-2011, 06:27 PM
ouch

how much you reckon it would cost?
07-09-2011, 06:33 PM
trism

like i said, should be a few dollars.
08-09-2011, 04:05 PM
~Sp33~

Have you inspected it first to see if that's actually the source?
08-09-2011, 06:21 PM
bob carrr

how would you get the most out of a d16y1?
08-09-2011, 06:33 PM
jdmEG5

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

how would you get the most out of a d16y1?

yeah was about to ask same question ;
08-09-2011, 06:41 PM
mugen_ctr

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob carrr

how would you get the most out of a d16y1?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmEG5

yeah was about to ask same question ;

how deeps are ur pockets

If just the usual I/H/E, it does make an improvement, but dont expect a WOW factor

If ur going boost, than its a different story, good for 120kw easy

If ur going the full beans, forged engine, piston rods, etc etc with big turbo, lsd and dry sump, than its pretty much a solid engine lol
08-09-2011, 06:43 PM
~Sp33~

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7604/1232037466127.jpg
08-09-2011, 06:46 PM
jdmEG5

LOLOLOL sp33 hahaha

hmm well pocket isnt deep at all lol, just curious on any other mods other than i/h/e ?

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