x 2 !Quote:
Originally Posted by Atjo
Printable View
x 2 !Quote:
Originally Posted by Atjo
wrong, civic costs more on road.Quote:
Originally Posted by ktvin09
just saw the aussie honda CITY commercial.. looks pretty cool... from $20,490
http://city.honda.com.au/see-the-car_videos.aspx
Dropped into our local dealer today (while they were closed so no pestering hawker salespeople) and saw a black top of the range City in the metal. Nice alloy wheels, interior seems quite upmarket, outside dimensions appear quite small. Very much like a sedan version of the Jazz in terms of overall size but with a different front end. Will be interesting to see how it sells and how many we will see on the roads eventually.
dealers might drop their pants and give u a better price for old models but why would they chop up the price for a car that has been for sale for less than a week?
alpine i take offence to your ignorant comment
if u walked into that dealership and told the first guy who asked if u needed help that you were fine looking and that you would let him know, he would leave you alone
i hate when people play salespeople out as bad guys, they are their to assist you in getting the info you need to make an educated decision and properly represent both you and the company in negotiations.
we go home at the end of the day, eat food, sleep, and talk to our friend and families like anyone else.
if u werent such a coward u might have been able to actually go inside and look and *shock* drive one too!
and +1 with panda, its a new model, new car, they arent desperate to get rid of them so i wouldnt go in with the mindset of getting 4k off it. cuz there will be someone behind u willing to pay close to rrp to get the first few of them
NO IT IS NOT! 26k is AUTO, the civic atm is aut0 27,700 with free rego.Quote:
Originally Posted by ktvin09
pls get ur facts correct
Calm down Nax, I'm sure you are a very nice honest sincere car salesman but you have no idea about what our local dealer is like and what reputation they have so why should you stick up for them. You know nothing about me, you know nothing about our local dealer, so you have absolutely nothing to say to me. If you don't like what you read on forums then you don't have read it. Just shut up and keep your comments to yourself.
Do we get the reclining rear seats in Australia?
Also, can someone let me know whether you can special order Japanese parts and accessories and have them factory fitted through your Honda dealership?
Can you purchase Japanese models through the Australian dealerships?
dealerships offer the modulo range haha.. wonder how much and cant wait to see one on the streets
Highly doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
Quote:
Originally Posted by JOhnnyFD
Modulo been around here for ages.
NO, we get aus spec models, u want japan models go to japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
So we don't get this model..........
http://www.autoincar.com/2009-honda-...how/#more-3383
Whytf they previewed this at Sydney motor show...
did u read it? it said CONCEPTQuote:
Originally Posted by Larkk
Chill guys.. lol All this tension...
I think one point is clear though, the direction from HA may be in one way, but it's not necessarily what the enthusiasts on OZH want to see.
is says 60/40 rear seat..you can fold down(forward) the rear seat, just like the JAzzQuote:
Do we get the reclining rear seats in Australia?
ha are doing the right thing for the aus market, ozhonda make up about .3% of that market.Quote:
Originally Posted by FitRS
Concept>Real? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
no shiet modulo has been around.. saying that dealerships now offer em for the city range... do u see civic, jazz, euro modulo range offered by honda dealerships??Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
saw a city today at warringah mall, it was a honda promotional stand, had it next to the new accord and a jazz. looked pretty nice. nothing negative about it really, should be a great "city" car, as teh name suggest, does what it says on the box
City just came out, dunno what you mean by 'now' offering it. Its offered from day 1. And yes modulo is available on other models as the factory body kit... just not called modulo in aus (except for the city).Quote:
Originally Posted by JOhnnyFD
Oh do we? Thanks for pointing that out. That statement is as shortsighted as saying: "You want a Japanese built car? Go to Japan".Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
:thumbdwn:
While understanding that NZ import laws are lax in comparison to ours, I was told that you could import models directly through dealerships if you didn't find what you wanted at the locally sourced yards.
It pictures the rear seat reclining, though states in an overseas model shown. I know they 60/40 split, but do they recline?Quote:
Originally Posted by fitme
forget it.. no pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Well said! Earth, here we come!Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
The "statement" to which you refer is probably more insightful than you could imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
I doubt that NZ import laws are lax but rather specifically designed to realistically cater for the tiny car market over there. Ours is not that much bigger by world standards. We get what we get.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
I said they're lax by our standards. Our import laws are strict.
Could you expand on his insightful statement?
These laws are there to protect our own local car industry I am lead to believe. Make sure we sell enough Fords and Holdens so that the aussies are employed. Sounds cynical but correct me if I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
But that's my opinion based on what others have said, would love to hear it from someone from the industry.
There's that, and also the fact that our minimum safety requirements often surpass other countries, so safety compliencing on imported models can often make it not worth the while.
Once up a time, before the "Button Plan", the Oz design rules, the import tariffs, the import parity and quota systems were designed to keep other cars out of Oz but now every man and his dog sells cars in Oz. Even the yanks think they can sell their horrible designs here because there are many young people here and now influenced by US culture. Our tariff rates have slowly come down and are supposed to reduce to 5% (they're at 10% at the moment).Quote:
Originally Posted by FitRS
Oz design rules are slowly being brought into line with more common world standards as a result of the free trade process; a cause for which Oz is a champion. Limits on what does come here are now more to do with the value of the Oz dollar or simply a "terms of trade" matter: Oz dollar goes down and so imports get expensive and vice versa.
NZ laws aren't lax even by our standards. They are just designed for the realities of their small market; otherwise no one would bother selling new cars there. They don't miss out on safety equipment or other latest technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
Insightful in it's simple perception of the market realities for Oz. Honda Australia models have carefully selected equipment levels designed to meet minimum standards, surpass some others that are not too costly and have a small 'wow' factor above market expectation just to ensure the right level of competitiveness for the given market. True in all markets even in Japan where one should go to buy a Japanese model designed for the Japanese market and its idiosyncrasies.
Sounds like you just made an excuse as to why it's lax.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Does NZ? NZ relies upon the countries that they import their cars from to see if the car surpasses minimum requirements. Does NZ do independent testing? Has NZ ever denied a car production due to insufficient safety standards? Just because their laws are realistic doesn't mean they're equal to Australia's standards.Quote:
Insightful in it's simple perception of the market realities for Oz. Honda Australia models have carefully selected equipment levels designed to meet minimum standards,
I have no idea what message your trying to convey with that sentence.Quote:
True in all markets even in Japan where one should go to buy a Japanese model designed for the Japanese market and it's idiosyncrasies.
does the city come with a factory window tint?
hopefully a proper dark tint if it does.
tint is always an option mate..
never come standard lol..
The City has arrived in Darwin. It's tiny! Or rather it's a Tardis. It even looks smaller than the Jazz but it's actually bigger. The wheels look undersized and out of proportion to the body. There's heaps of room under the bonnet for a larger engine.
That is bullshit, you know for a fact that most the sales people have less knowledge than us about the cars and that they only care about the dollar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nax
They don't give a shit about the fact you are there except for the dollars you bring.
They don't represent the buyer at all, they only exist to line the dealers back pocket, and the dealers exist to distribute the vehicles the manufacturer produces.
Look at some of the stupid shit that some 'dealer' staff (not panda) from around Australia say in this thread.
wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wankQuote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
bet you were a marketing major
I think City Type-Z looks much better, feels like a "sedan".
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...042550/004.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...042550/005.jpg
looks like an ek series sedan just shorter.
looks preety good though, minus the wing.
My post was reasoned. Either you are masturbating over what I posted (pandering to yourself) or you are being gratuitously offensive. I never got to be a marketing major: Only a Sergeant Major; but that was before seven years of university study.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
Well, Sergeant Major, I'd expect less waffle and more of the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Firstly, we all masturbate, but i'd hardly call your words 'inspiration' or motivation.
Let me translate this for you,Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Honda Australia chooses the lowest equipment levels possible to 'differentiate' the product from other offerings on the market, not because the Australian consumer wants it, but because they try to maximise the margin on each vehicle.
When it comes down to the point of whether Japanese consumers have differing tastes, I'd say that the FD2R that exists in Japan would be better received by enthusiasts here rather than the FN2R hatchback no LSD live axle version.
But, Honda Australia have a history of disregarding the consumer, or thinking that their knowledge is superior to Australian buyers.
Many examples or cars not getting Brembo Brakes, or limited slip differentials,
K20A motors and B series motors being detuned for "petrol quality reasons"
Type-R cars that are sold without the signature Championship White what was part of the EK9, DC2R and DC5R legacy. The FD2R does have Championship White, I guess the FD2R doesn't suit Australian tastes because it's a real type r.
No, I think the reality is that Honda Australia and the dealers don't bend over backwards to accommodate the Australian consumer. We're a small market, we move fewer cars.
But to say that Honda Australia has our interests at heart or they're trying to differentiate the product to make it 'excel' in this marketplace, we all know it's about profit maximisation. They need to make a profit, and they try to get away with as much as possible without the consumer knowing. That's the way companies operate. And I blame Honda Australia for that, the best thing to back this argument up is the fact that 5-10 years ago, every honda vehicle was sourced straight from Japan.
Now because of FTA's, labor costs and other factors, Honda vehicles in Australia primarily come from Thailand.
The Honda products that roll out of Thailand, for example, the Jazz (Fit) etc etc, they won't have 4WD like the Japan factories, they won't have the moon roof like the Japan versions do.
It's not an exercise in tailoring the product to the Australian market. Just like sales people aren't really intermediarys for buyers and sellers.
If the dollar signs arent there, they don't bother
Now, Thailand has become the crucial supplier to Australia.
what do you think is a realistic price for a Vti manual drive away?
holy shieeee
thats hawttttttt
can someone explain to me wtf AUX connections are?
is it like 3.5mm jack?
ok um, i took one for a drive today, and guees wat, it feel exactly the same as my 03 jazz
just smother over bumps, but u can feel the auto box working away
o and also, anything above 3000rpm, the thing starts screaming, and it isnt the good 'vtec yo' screaming its the 'stop reving me i dont like to rev' type scream.
the boot is friggen huge though, and the modulo kit looks decent, the 16" rims look great aswell, if they were reasonably priced wouldnt mind a set for myself.
um yeah i think there is more, o yeah its got ipod interface shiz, like usb and an aux port, along with a mp3 cd headunit thingy even in the basic version which is cool.
i got price list here on the road but yeah, cbf typing all that crapola up.
That's a Honda Domani. What country was it marketed as a City?Quote:
Originally Posted by Atjo
numberplate looks like its arabic, i think.
btw chunky aux is like a headphone port, but instead of sending music out it recieves it.
eg. u hav a mp3 player, so u get a cord with the headphone style plugs on both sides, u plug one into ur player and the other into ur headunit or wateva. thus allowing u to play music thru ur car audio.
its thai, for the untrained noobs out there
oohhhQuote:
Originally Posted by INVSBL
thanks man :thumbsup:
so mang, wat training should i enroll in to leave noob status????Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
:p
and no prob chunky
just keep your eyes open and dont talk shit and you'll get there :)
I didn't lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
I was referring to someone else's words as insightful. You were masturbating over my post. I wasn't giving a pep talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
Waffle..........
Bingo.......Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
Waffle......Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
listen man, i speak the truth, i just don't sugar coat it
We're actually in agreement. You haven't worked it out yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
.... ugh... my issue wasn't with what you said, brother, it was the way you said it.
forgive...
^^Ego te absolvo in nomine pax.
What's with the verse from the song?
Equo ne credite, Teucri! Quidquid id est, timeo Danaos etiam dona ferentes.
Has anyone bought one of these cars yet? or seen one on the road
ive seen the tv commerical
I can't wait to see them around.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...042550/005.jpg
this is the 1st gen (mmc) Honda City(Type Z) body code "SX8", only asian country got this model, the 2nd gen was the GD series..GD5 and GD6 i think.. the current City is the 3rd gen with a body code GM
I went and checked them out today at the dealership.
Not a bad looking car, the modulo kit looks heaps better IRL. The grille on the regular model looks far better in pictures though. Heaps of room, dash looks ok, doors look really cheap, though i'd consider buying one for sure.
Oh and i think someone mentioned earlier, there is HUGE amounts of space in the engine compartment. As the sales guy said "You could fit a 2.0L engine in there" Haha.
we have the modulo on our showroom floor.
looks great, but not for me!
fact?Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
sorry lukey but the 98 accords were made in the good ol US of A
the 99-00 accords were produced in thailand too
that's not a first gen city, it's a third gen :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by fitme
it was based on the EJ civic and only sold in SE asia
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._third_gen.jpg
this is a first gen city (1981)
http://world.honda.com/history/chall.../index_top.jpg
Sorry, redbook told me differently for the 98 it says Japan, but 99-00 are from thailand.Quote:
Originally Posted by panda[cRx]
http://redbook.com.au/used-cars/deta...d=11F8A790E3B5
But still doesnt change the fact - production was moved to thailand to cut costs
City/FITQuote:
Originally Posted by panda[cRx]
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103663
http://world.honda.com/history/chall.../index_top.jpg
K24 swap any1???
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/3GCityFirst/gen.jpg
they didnt include the CITY II (Turbo) 81'
afaik the current city(GM2) is the 3rd generation..
1st gen aka "SX8"
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...8/DSC_0214.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...ryanneamp2.jpg
1st gen (MMC) facelifted Type Z
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...G_0876-1-1.jpg
2nd gen
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/VTECCityPrev/main.jpg
2nd gen aka City ZX (MMC) facelifted side by side with the New City
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/c...y/STH72001.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/c...0city/STH72002.jpg[/img]
The engine and transmission would probably be wider then the cars track width, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by INVSBL
ever herd of the free trade agreement????Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
The City looks alot like the previous Accord Euro.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
if it was made in japan the vin prefix would be JHMCG1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by redbook.com.au
wrong again? that chart must only refer to models released in whatever SE asia or whatever country that is fromQuote:
Originally Posted by fitme
the second generation city GA1 + GA2 was produced 86-94
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._City_1988.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_City
you can also refer to the links to old school hondas on the honda worldwide website
my gf had that model of city the silver one lol
absolute shit fight to fix and get parts for, celebrated when it got written off lol
also thai factories punching out panels do the exact same job as the jap ones, plus faster shipping, which means parts are getting cheaper, which is good for the general public
did take Honda 2yrs to get the stardards up to par with Jap, but now I can see in the coming yrs bugger all coming from Japan in terms of body work from Honda Co....
can someone explain to me how the fuel lid works?
i understand it is locked when the engine is off but what about when you are stopping at a traffic like, or just idling?
thanks
its open, when u open the car u can open it, when u lock the car u can lock it. It runs through the central locking system. nothing to do with engine being on or off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garrigues
Modulo City in all its glory
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/433...04smalluh4.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/138...05smallkw4.jpg
it looks better in the flesh. i'll take some pics when i can be bothered
Saw a Modulo spec in the showroom at Southside Honda (Brisbane) earlier this morning, they're much bigger than they look in pictures. Back seat looks quite cramped though....
That's the same dealership i went to to see it. The rear seats are really spacious, especially leg room.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4thGenExi
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
More leg space than a Euro! But the roof is too low. I had to bend my neck to fit.
How tall are you man?! I'm 5"11 and fit ok.
Collins Rockdale Honda
(without bargaining or anything...actually i went on a saturday and all the sales people except the manager was too busy to talk to me for a preferred introductory length)
City VTI (Auto)
$26.5k drive away
City VTI-L (Auto)
$28, 600 drive away
Compared with Civic VTI (auto)
$28.6k drive away
Also quoted from Rosebury honda...except BOTH salemen that I talked to were really rude.
They quoted:
City VTI - $26,463
VTI-L - $29, 038
Civic VTI - $28,831
As mentioned b4 VTI-L has tilt+telescopic steering wheel adjustments, alloy wheels, premium cloth seats (apparently thicker...???) and a bunch of gimmics, including chrome door handles, aluminium interior linings of some sort, Chrome exhaust, Fog Lights (ok its useful in hazardous environments but i still rekon it's a gimmick).
Think it's worth it to get VTI-L above VTI?
I know the City is usually compared with the Jazz but I dun like the look for the Jazz. Actually i'm kinda sick of hatchbacks...lol (prefering the look of sedans more although some hatchbacks look hot =P)
I'm sorta comparing it with the somewhat more superior and well-known Civic. Honeslty, i like the exterioir look of City more than the civic. Interioir, civic looks nicer. More importantly, mechanically the civic has a 1.8L engine while the city only has a 1.5L (then again the civic is bigger). Also the City atm lacks stability and traction control (i think) while the civic has them...dunno how important this is though.
I'm planning to also check out the Honda @ Sutherland but haven't had time to do that yet.
Oh btw, i'm about 5 11'' and there's plenty of leg room and head room for me in the city. HOWEVER i have not test driven the car yet, just sat in it and stuff. Planning to test drive when i have time.
Oh yea, i'm also a young male =P looking for a small, somewhat more manly car which i can afford but more importantly has a good resell value after 5 yrs and is RELIABLE + efficient above everything else.
Cheers