Springs vs Coilovers

On a scale of cheapness to best idea:
Chopped springs -> Spring Replacements -> Coils

There is basically no difference between chopped springs and aftermarket ones aside from the fact one is slightly harder (I'd assume) If not, It'd make sense to just chop the springs if you're on that much of a budget build.

In no way am I saying chopping your springs is a good idea, Just saying, without shocks to suit the springs, it's pretty much the same as chopping them.

If I could, I'd get coils for my civic, but I most likely can't (due to the thing being 30+ years old, and not very popular for this kinda work) I can't get springs for it, unless I want to pay stupid money, and I could chop my springs, but it's illegal and stupid, so why do it? Unless I got some spare coils for cheap, and did it for fun (not that I would)
Having said that, I'm assuming... So yeah, correct if you want, I don't care.

Correct what? You made a good point ..

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When I was a kid, when I was a little boy, I always wanted to be a dinosaur, I wanted to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex more than anything in the world, I made my arms short and I roamed the back yard, I chased the neighborhood cats, I growled and I roared, everybody knew me and was afraid of me, and one day my dad said "Bobby you are 17, it's time to throw childish things aside" and I said "OK Pop", but he didn't really say that he said that "Stop being a ****ing dinosaur and get a job".

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Oh man, good job hustler lmao :D

Ok back on topic for a sec, what are the cons of going with the BC coilovers? I love the way my car handles now and hope that it stays that way but I also want to lower it a little bit - someone else on here had a DC5 on BC coilovers too, not sure about performance but it did look a lot better.

Got an infraction from bennjamin for being funny, thanks man :cool: but remember, life is always better with a sense of humor ;)

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Originally Posted by senna

I think the problem here is budget and the end user's priorities

IDV8 doesn't want to spend alot of money and he doesn't have a high priority on handling performance - alot of people don't.

Just because he has a Honda and he is on this forum doesn't mean that his car needs to be a Touge Monster...

IDV8 - try and get to a meet where there is a range of cars with different suspension, ask someone if you can go for a ride with them and see what you personally can put up with, then make your decision.

You may love the performance of coilovers and find them reasonably comfortable, alternatively you may find them much too firm for your liking - on the other hand you may go for a ride in a car with just lowered springs and find that you don't like the feeling of that.

Forums are great for info, but with suspension everyone has a different opinion on what is good/bad and everyone has a different interpretation of what is hard/soft

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Originally Posted by Drifter995

On a scale of cheapness to best idea:
Chopped springs -> Spring Replacements -> Coils

There is basically no difference between chopped springs and aftermarket ones aside from the fact one is slightly harder (I'd assume) If not, It'd make sense to just chop the springs if you're on that much of a budget build.

In no way am I saying chopping your springs is a good idea, Just saying, without shocks to suit the springs, it's pretty much the same as chopping them.

If I could, I'd get coils for my civic, but I most likely can't (due to the thing being 30+ years old, and not very popular for this kinda work) I can't get springs for it, unless I want to pay stupid money, and I could chop my springs, but it's illegal and stupid, so why do it? Unless I got some spare coils for cheap, and did it for fun (not that I would)
Having said that, I'm assuming... So yeah, correct if you want, I don't care.

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There are King Springs listed for your car, lol... KHFL-31 & KHRL-32

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There are King Springs listed for your car, lol... KHFL-31 & KHRL-32

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orly?
eh.. car would crap itself if I put them under it without new shocks.. the front shocks are about to die anyway, rears would probably cope since they are like half a year old.
But still, Would prefer coils.

Why not Eibach pro kit springs ? JDMyard supplys em, not sure if they have em in stock but I payed $300 for a set last year and from memory Kings springs were similar in price. As to the quality of Kings springs ? plenty of mates started out with them but changed em out when they found the limitations of em.

If we had roads like Japan than everybody would be running coilovers, fact is our shitting potholed, speedbumped goat tracks will wear out coilovers twice as quick as a decent shock spring combo. If ya got plenty of moula to throw away then go for it.

Springs vs coilovers.

Well you'll need dampers for your spings, otherwise you'll be bouncing around the road.

I'd go with coilovers.

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I'd go with coilovers.

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amen brother lol

MANY fail to see the point of springs+damper setups on DD, everyone says get coilovers but why? track performance on the public roads? 9/10 times in a year u wont even track it, so why bother with coilover, yes im sounding hypocritical now, cause i run coilovers, but too much miss information goin around, too much hearsay going around with no real evidence to prove that entry level coilovers like bc (not buddyclubs) are better than say Mugen spring+damper setup or even Koni+GC setup which plenty of guys use it in the states on DD and AutoX/track.

Remember this setup is best for DD due to the nature of non linear spring rate which coilovers dont have! Linear spring rates are what cause spine shattering ride... think about it... if its a linear rate, theres not much give vs progressive spring rate, feel me?

The good spring+damper setups like Mugen, NISMO, and ralliart are the bomb! with proper researched damper valve suited to the springs they will last ages and perform just as well vs cheap coilovers which tend to deteriorate on shotty roads like in vic and can be built poorly and most, if not all entry level coilovers built in taiwan lol.... (im not sure about tein SS though)

For the price of BC coilovers, id take Mugen spring+shocks any day if i had dc5R if were talking about price for price.... though its non adjustable, its mugen LOL cmon jdm fan boys agree with me :D

On another forum's thread, a guy posted this. I think it sums up the argument of springs/shocks vs coilovers well:

"This is a bit of a funny thread, since you can't definitively say that either are better than the other. Some spring/strut combos will far outperform coilovers, some coilovers will far outperform strut/springs on the track but give horrible ride quality, and some (read: expensive) coilovers will just plain be better than everything else.

If you're thinking about coilovers, you should sit down and think very hard about what you want them for. If ride quality factors in at all, and budget even factors into it, then coilovers are probably not for you. Even some of the moderately priced coilovers like Tein are still considered really firm by some, although I've heard Teins sold in Australia have been revalved for Australia's horrible roads and so are a nicer ride.
Some of the brands I've heard can be quite comfortable include Ohlins, Apexi, K2, Bilstein PSS9. I think the cheapest of these start at about $2,000, and range up to exceeding $4,000 for the Bilsteins and K2.

Having said that, you can get something like BCs and set them really soft, but it just won't be a refined ride"

I don't know how people talk about ride quality (not being great for street with coilovers) I love it.
I don't see the point in a shock and spring combo I'm just a Coilover type of guy

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Why not Eibach pro kit springs ? JDMyard supplys em, not sure if they have em in stock but I payed $300 for a set last year and from memory Kings springs were similar in price. As to the quality of Kings springs ? plenty of mates started out with them but changed em out when they found the limitations of em.

If we had roads like Japan than everybody would be running coilovers, fact is our shitting potholed, speedbumped goat tracks will wear out coilovers twice as quick as a decent shock spring combo. If ya got plenty of moula to throw away then go for it.

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Feel the same way as Stevil here.
IDV8, you mentioned that you'd like a ride that feels similar to stock.
A lot of guys on the Type R Owners UK forum run Eibach springs DC5's and EP3's alike.
From what I've read on their forums, although subjective, the members who run Eibachs say the ride is similar to stock, just a tad stiffer, and handles nicely too :)
Although I must add that they run camber bolts and arms with the springs to fine-tune their geometry.

Im also currently running -30mm Eibachs in my EP3 and by my own preferences, it rides really well (just avoid massive potholes, as you should anyway =P) plus it handles as well when I feel like doing some spirited driving.
I do need to point out however that the mid-pipe of my catback (Fujitsubo RM01a) does scrape slightly over sharply inclined surfaces such as tall speedbumps, entering shopping malls via upward ramps. I have no problems with the front lip scraping.
Just letting you know incase you are planning on/already running an aftermarket exhaust system that hangs low in your wheelbase.

Just my 2 cents...
But as senna mentioned, best way is to take a ride in a few different setups, but seeing as you want to retain a closer-to-stock feel, Eibach Pro Kit is highly recommended :)

Here's a pic of a JDM DC5 on Pro Kit. Not sure how different it will be for AUDM DC5r's as stock wheel and tyre combo is different. Someone can shed some light on this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...0/P1010593.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...0/P1010592.jpg

I think the appeal of coilovers to most people isn't the ride, or the handling, its simply the ability to easily adjust ride height.

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I think the appeal of coilovers to most people isn't the ride, or the handling, its simply the ability to easily adjust ride height.

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seriously gospel truth

Damper... Feels good and tastes good if ya know what I mean lol

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I don't know how people talk about ride quality (not being great for street with coilovers) I love it.
I don't see the point in a shock and spring combo I'm just a Coilover type of guy

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If you were in Sydney i could change your mind immediately!

A lot of people say that the ride "isn't bad" with their coilovers - but why settle for not bad when you can have excellent? And still keep the performance factor? High quality dampers and springs can give you both of these things - no one is willing to try it because they'd prefer to listen to a bunch of amateurs with nothing to compare their ebay special coilovers to...

^agry'd

try before you bash/become a coilover purist

pat-tran do you do ground control kits?

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If you were in Sydney i could change your mind immediately!

A lot of people say that the ride "isn't bad" with their coilovers - but why settle for not bad when you can have excellent? And still keep the performance factor? High quality dampers and springs can give you both of these things - no one is willing to try it because they'd prefer to listen to a bunch of amateurs with nothing to compare their ebay special coilovers to...

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Nice one Pat.

I got an alcoholic ex-mate. When he doesn't have any cash, he scrapes together a couple of dollars in change and buys vanilla essence. He says it tastes 'not bad' with coffee lol.

No GC distributor in Australia mate...

bugger, thought so. anything similar?

We can make it, however because it would be one of at first the cost will be much more than the GC kit from the states...

Since we talking abou coilovers ...

Changed mine from Bwr to buddyclub today
Got my buddyclub set on stiffest setting
Not even stiff enough and I got race hasport engine mounts

Nice and comfy and bouncy

Man up coil over haters who like a spring and shock combo.

Coilovers for daily mmmmm

My kings lows (with stock shocks) have been fine for 100,000km. odometer is now at 270,000km

With a full car my prelude lowers to zero finger fender gaps and the ride height is still 9 or 10cm off the ground. With no passengers, the ride height is practical.
There's nothing wrong with them. They're value for money.

kings springs and cut springs

i cant tell the difference honestly..

not saying kings are bad. but they fell like oem but sitting lil bit lower

They definately have a stiffer spring rate compared to stock. Plus when the car is loaded, the progressive springs start working.

You can't expect them to be full stiff... They allow some suspension travel for ride comfort.

even with a full car on an interstate trip, I don't have any worries about bottoming out

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They definately have a stiffer spring rate compared to stock. Plus when the car is loaded, the progressive springs start working.

You can't expect them to be full stiff... They allow some suspension travel for ride comfort.

even with a full car on an interstate trip, I don't have any worries about bottoming out

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so much wynn^^

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no one is willing to try it because they'd prefer to listen to a bunch of amateurs with nothing to compare their ebay special coilovers to...

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I've been in and driven a car with an expensive shock spring combo and it was really good. although I bought my coilovers with adjustable height+damper+spring in mind more then anything. and we don't ALL have "ebay specials" dude haha... unless buddyclub/cusco/silvers etc are ebay special..

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They definately have a stiffer spring rate compared to stock.

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really? my kings felt worse then stock and I've had oem/kings/coilovers. they look maybe a little thinner then the stock springs metal but i'm not 100% sure so don't quote me on that.

i think with spring/shock combo you need to be using the right height shock and pick your spring rate and dampening based on the kind of ride/performance you have in mind otherwise it'll feel wrong. only problem is once you buy it you (normally) can't adjust it so if you go wrong you need to sell/buy again.

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When I bought King Springs brand new from day 1 I said "it feels weaker than my OEM springs"

Not only that after awhile it sags, screwed my shocks, and the handling became worse.

Waste of precious money just for junk so stay away from it

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sorry if this offends anyone but I just hate king springs lol

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I've been in and driven a car with an expensive shock spring combo and it was really good. although I bought my coilovers with adjustable height+damper+spring in mind more then anything. and we don't ALL have "ebay specials" dude haha... unless buddyclub/cusco/silvers etc are ebay special..



really? my kings felt worse then stock and I've had oem/kings/coilovers. they look maybe a little thinner then the stock springs metal but i'm not 100% sure so don't quote me on that.

i think with spring/shock combo you need to be using the right height shock and pick your spring rate and dampening based on the kind of ride/performance you have in mind otherwise it'll feel wrong. only problem is once you buy it you (normally) can't adjust it so if you go wrong you need to sell/buy again.

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Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

I was running kings superlows on bilstein shocks before, the fronts were ok but the rear was too soft IMO. It was a comfy ride, with some stiffer springs at the rear the ride would of been perfect.

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Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

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Didn't read any of your previous posts but I'd accept what you would've wrote anyway. Can't judge you wrong since its your job doing suspensions.

I'd probably guess my shocks were shot too. So in that case I can't actually review king springs from my behalf, so I'll delete my previous post.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by IDV8

I'm running a stock DC5 and want to drop it a couple of CM, probably an inch exactly. I figured I could just buy some Kings Springs and have them installed, would save a hell of a lot of $$ (this will go towards an exhaust or CAI setup). I use my car as a daily and absolutely no track use.

So what would be the difference besides price - and how exact can I be about vehicle height? Thanks!

BC Coilovers: $1150
King Springs: ~$300

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Originally Posted by grifty

I was running kings superlows on bilstein shocks before, the fronts were ok but the rear was too soft IMO. It was a comfy ride, with some stiffer springs at the rear the ride would of been perfect.

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Kings we buy are not what u would call performance springs, infact they far cry from it... Ive had kings in mine thinking they were performance, how wrong was i!

If u want performance, go teins/eibachs/koni or better yet if u got the dough custom springs straight up!

been in cars with teins, and must say they are much better performing spring than any kings, regardless of lows/Super lows/Super super lows. Much firmer, rides better and just the quality!

Who said shocks/spring combos can't be adjustable?

koni yellow adjustable shocks + ground controlkit = full adjustability

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Sure, this may be a generalisation, but there is so much misinformation on forums when it comes to suspension and far too many people will recommend coilovers for anyone and everyone. This isn't right.

Sure I sell king springs, but I'm not going to say they are the best for everyone. I can assure you that the spring rates are higher than stock springs though.

A lot of people blame the spring when its really the shock...

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what exactly do you mean by that? if the spring sits too low a nd overworks the shock isn't that essentially the spring causing the issue? Or the shocks for not keeping up with a non desirable spring?

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what exactly do you mean by that? if the spring sits too low a nd overworks the shock isn't that essentially the spring causing the issue? Or the shocks for not keeping up with a non desirable spring?

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Putting things simply, the spring holds the weight of the car and the shock or damper controls the way that weight moves around.

When you take a shock that has been working in a particular range for say 80,000k's it creates a wear pattern on the rod and the seal. So when you move that range higher or lower the contact point is different and the wear pattern starts all over again. This time though the seal will fail and let gas/oil out of the shock body.

A similar thing happens inside the shock where the piston moves up and down inside the tube.

makes sense

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to senna again.

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Who said shocks/spring combos can't be adjustable?

koni yellow adjustable shocks + ground controlkit = full adjustability

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sure but if that gives you all the same adjustability doesn't that just make it a coilover in two parts anyway..?

It does, but that example is a much higher quality shock and spring compared to what you will get on BC or D2 etc coilover.

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sure but if that gives you all the same adjustability doesn't that just make it a coilover in two parts anyway..?

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you can pick your desired parts rather than have to purchase an entire unit

Its all a matter of money.

You can get coilovers, get then custom valved be damper/rebound adjustable, and get custom spring rates.

But you will pay 5k for it.

The fact is though, that most people with a Honda just want to get low, and have height adjustment. And the easiest cheapest way for them to do this is a set of el cheapo coilovers for under 1k

great info here guise

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Originally Posted by trism

Its all a matter of money.

You can get coilovers, get then custom valved be damper/rebound adjustable, and get custom spring rates.

But you will pay 5k for it.

The fact is though, that most people with a Honda just want to get low, and have height adjustment. And the easiest cheapest way for them to do this is a set of el cheapo coilovers for under 1k

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That's right
May as well get some Bwr from the states

How's Pedder's compare to say kings? Looking at springs and shocks changed/lowered. Having said that, I only want to half the gap between my guards and tyres, no remove them completely (the usual 30mm seems as bit much).

coilovers have springs

springs have springs(dafuq)

dont you mean coilovers vs shock spring combo

Anyone running bc? They sell around 1k new very tempting from what I've read... There alot better than your other cheap coils

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Anyone running bc? They sell around 1k new very tempting from what I've read... There alot better than your other cheap coils

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my friend has BC Racing BR's on his S14 and they seem to handle very nicely

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Anyone running bc? They sell around 1k new very tempting from what I've read... There alot better than your other cheap coils

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For an extra $300 you can go buddyclub
Bc over priced to me for what they are to be honest

I've got king springs in my dc5r, and i hate them tbh, get coilovers!!

Why do you hate them?

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Why do you hate them?

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why else would you hate them? he probably has them on stock shocks which have blown causing the car to bounce around everywhere.

To sum it all up....
If you want something cheap and don't care so much about the feel get cr*ppy king springs
If you got the money get coilovers, but do it right one time and you won't regret it
At the end of the day it's up to you, everyone has different thoughts on everything and everyone likes different things

End of thread lol

Actually, your post doesn't sum up anything IMO.

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Actually, your post doesn't sum up anything IMO.

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Yeah it does
Springs are sh*t
Coilovers are the sh*t

But so many people will disagree with you there.

I'd much rather run with a premium spring/damper combo, like say, custom rate Eibach springs on damper adjustable KYB/Koni/Tokico shocks, and have a comfortable ride while being firmer and lower than stock, than for the same price buy a set of cheap as fuxk coilovers that are stiff as shit and bruise your kidneys every time you drive.

I've been there, done that, and I won't do it again.

Like I said earlier, the only reason I continue to recommend coilovers to people is because they are height adjustable, and that's what they are asking for.

next car I get im going after a good shock and spring combo. If I lived in japan id go super stiff coilovers or somewhere with good roads and not the disgraceful sh!t sydney has. My coilovers make dd annoying.

Yeah and when you go with the brands you have said then yeah
But when someone wants to use king springs? Why even bother

But I do agree with you there though

I had kyb shocks, and trying to get them out of my car to put coilovers was the biggest pain in the A... They were so long lol

I had coilovers for one reason to increase/decrease height within 30 minutes. Only reason i didn't give to shits about daily drive or anything. Even though mine was relatively comfy due to the longer wheel base euros have.

To put it simply you can buy good quality shock spring combo for about 900 that is well branded koni eibach. But for basic coilovers you will be paying well over for bc or buddyclub not saying anything about quality.

Simple in my opinion if you just want sporting ride with good quality parts. Buy shock spring combo. If you want to see how love you can go and raise it up don't care about ride quality buy coilovers. Some cars ill choose shock spring combo some cars ill choose coilovers.

Please autocorrect don't duck this paragraph

koni yellows are adjustable

justsayin

i got buddyclub.

nomsayin

shock spring + ground contorl is the solution

http://www.autocarparts.com/images/g...l-coilover.jpg

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shock spring + ground contorl is the solution

http://www.autocarparts.com/images/g...l-coilover.jpg

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I always wanted these for my em1, but budget was too low

I got koni yellow dampers and Eibach pro kit. It was an very decent compromise of performance/comfort. Adjustable dampers helped a lot for balance and fine-tuning

Looking back, I wish I got the GCs as well. I was on a budget though. Got the Eibachs new for 290. The guy I bought em off but never got round to installing them. So still new in box. Koni yellows were 700 express shipping from states

That was a year ago with dollar at 98 US

1k all up. I recommend it

TIEN COILOVERS (super streets), you can adjust the height and how stiff the car is. Had them in all my honda's best 1k i ever spent! Really recommend them. You can choose from gokart like handling to nice comfy ride any time u want :D On top of that u can dump her on her ass!


Plus it helps when u get defected, 20 minutes of adjusting and a quick trip to the local mechanic! also had 2 accidents (really bad ones, did a couple of 360's in the air) the coils never leaked bent or anything came out perfect!

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TIEN COILOVERS (super streets), you can adjust the height and how stiff the car is. Had them in all my honda's best 1k i ever spent! Really recommend them. You can choose from gokart like handling to nice comfy ride any time u want :D On top of that u can dump her on her ass!


Plus it helps when u get defected, 20 minutes of adjusting and a quick trip to the local mechanic! also had 2 accidents (really bad ones, did a couple of 360's in the air) the coils never leaked bent or anything came out perfect!

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Maybe you should worry less about giving your cars 'go kart-like handling', and focus more on not driving like an idiot, before you kill yourself, or worse, someone else? Just a thought.

360's in the air?????

drifting in a front wheel drive

inb4 tyd

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Maybe you should worry less about giving your cars 'go kart-like handling', and focus more on not driving like an idiot, before you kill yourself, or worse, someone else? Just a thought.

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Lol get over yourself
Mr police officer

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TIEN COILOVERS (super streets), you can adjust the height and how stiff the car is. Had them in all my honda's best 1k i ever spent! Really recommend them. You can choose from gokart like handling to nice comfy ride any time u want :D On top of that u can dump her on her ass!


Plus it helps when u get defected, 20 minutes of adjusting and a quick trip to the local mechanic! also had 2 accidents (really bad ones, did a couple of 360's in the air) the coils never leaked bent or anything came out perfect!

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Teins:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

wonder if OP has made a decision yet on either option.

for everyone it'll come down to money

those with the cash obviously have more options with what suspension set up they go for

what i dont understand with this thread is that you are comparing 'entry level' springs and coils where the actual difference in price is around $800..

if you had the cash just get the coils and be done with it..
if you dont want to spend as much on the car and put it somewhere else get the springs..

OP already said he will be daily driving the car and no track use whatsoever - so get springs and spend the rest of the difference on the exhaust or CAI

In regards to the question about height, Senna might have to confirm but lows will go around an inch plus once settled will go slightly lower again which sounds like what you are after

loweirng the car will add wear to your shocks so over time just put some cash away for that
once they let go you will have plenty of cash to replace them

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Maybe you should worry less about giving your cars 'go kart-like handling', and focus more on not driving like an idiot, before you kill yourself, or worse, someone else? Just a thought.

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What i do with my cars and my life is up to me bud. And this was @ 3am on a quiet road fkn pot holes.

lithhug, i hill and toed's around a coner cause the car go side ways while hitting a pot hole. made the car flip 3 times in the air landing perfectly in between telegraph pole and a school zone sign, cracked the wishbone and front passenger side rotor cracked in 1/2. No dmg to the coils thou.

Original thread starter: Only people that dont recommend tiens are the tight ass's who havn't had them yet. Personally i rather spend more on handling then speed or sound. Up to you what u wanna do your car. Suspension work>Power if its a daily.


i like to test how fast i can go around a corner :D

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TIEN COILOVERS (super streets), you can adjust the height and how stiff the car is. Had them in all my honda's best 1k i ever spent! Really recommend them. You can choose from gokart like handling to nice comfy ride any time u want :D On top of that u can dump her on her ass!


Plus it helps when u get defected, 20 minutes of adjusting and a quick trip to the local mechanic! also had 2 accidents (really bad ones, did a couple of 360's in the air) the coils never leaked bent or anything came out perfect!

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1k for tein Ss? Where? When? How? $1700 is the cheapest I've seem
New in aus that is

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Originally Posted by amant02

What i do with my cars and my life is up to me bud. And this was @ 3am on a quiet road fkn pot holes.

lithhug, i hill and toed's around a coner cause the car go side ways while hitting a pot hole. made the car flip 3 times in the air landing perfectly in between telegraph pole and a school zone sign, cracked the wishbone and front passenger side rotor cracked in 1/2. No dmg to the coils thou.

Original thread starter: Only people that dont recommend tiens are the tight ass's who havn't had them yet. Personally i rather spend more on handling then speed or sound. Up to you what u wanna do your car. Suspension work>Power if its a daily.


i like to test how fast i can go around a corner :D

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Everyone should buy Tein. They allow you to defy the laws of physics!

I have spent like 3K on various coilovers all up. I like Tein the best

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Originally Posted by 1900-hustler

wonder if OP has made a decision yet on either option.

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lol yeah right .
Op is doing too many things at once chances are its all a dream

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Originally Posted by amant02

lithhug, i hill and toed's around a coner cause the car go side ways while hitting a pot hole. made the car flip 3 times in the air landing perfectly in between telegraph pole and a school zone sign, cracked the wishbone and front passenger side rotor cracked in 1/2. No dmg to the coils thou.

Original thread starter: Only people that dont recommend tiens are the tight ass's who havn't had them yet. Personally i rather spend more on handling then speed or sound. Up to you what u wanna do your car. Suspension work>Power if its a daily.


i like to test how fast i can go around a corner :D

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Spend money on handling when clearly you dont know how to drive.

You are the kind of person that gives the rest of us modified car owners a bad name.

coilovers are for stance

shock and spring combo for bouncy stance