Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by locote
But i dont see anyone bagging anyone else here?
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Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by locote
But i dont see anyone bagging anyone else here?
lolz @ gsi owners getting shitty!!!
i have dc4t
haha,
It's about time you popped up in here Q!!!!
how's the car running?
thread 18 and 20 i consider to be bagging:).
it kool but.
every one who chose a vtir or a gsi had their reason for buying that vehicle, i saw more potential in the gsi, thats my personal choice.
others might not think so but when you consider the price of a gsi as opposed to a vtir and insurance, and the price of a turbo kit well makes you think. dollar for power ratio, boost is ahead by miles, and theres a few car on this forum to prove it to
heh, i missed those two pearlers. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by locote
i know the frustration though, since in the past, i've had a few people telling me that i wasted money on the vti-r, to sell it and buy an R.
if i had the money at the beginning i would have bought a type-r, so the last thing i wanted to hear was people telling me i should have gone out and bought one at day dot...
i used to console myself by thinking to myself that the vti-r represented a better platform for going crazy with since the price difference between the two cars was about 10k at the time- and 10k buys a shitload of mods ;)
but most gsi owners probarbly dont regret buying a gsi and they are quite happy with it. if i wanted a quik vtec a eg civic B18c would be my choice.
but i think the integra looks awsome and your average Joe cant tel the difference between a gsi and vtir from just looking at it specialy if athe badges have been rubbed off.
i baught a gsi to boost if i wanted to go N/A i would have baught a typeR!!
personaly it doesnt bother me people with slightly quiker cars telling me my car is slow.
i used to play with moded typeRs and s2000 like toys with my last car.
and i sold that to build a quiker car.
just found this post
Bought this used 1 year ago. Came stock. It's a very fun car and unique colour (Its stock)
2001 Integra SE
b18b 120 000km
AEM v2 cai
DC Sport 4-1 Header
DC Sport stainless catback exaust
AEM power Pulleys
ES motor mount inserts
VIS OEM CF hood
Type R lip
Moldings painted to match
OBX R coil over sleeves with Tokico illuminas struts
BSA 303 16" Black rims with polished lip
Removed rear wiper
Ran 14.8@89mph this year on drag radials
Ran 14.9@92 mph last year on street tires
dynoed at 130.1 whp and 116 trq
i'm going to contact him, see if he can give me a timeslip or something
dc header is quite cheap too. 545aus$ delivered to your door
Didn't this thread start by asking about a type R tranny in a GSI? And the improvements that would make to a GSI?
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Originally Posted by sydteg21
Well its obviously NOT stock.. The mods are listed.
I could of gotten a VTi-R but the insurance and price was more than a GSi so I thought to myself is it really worth paying the extra money for the car and insurance just for and extra 18kw? So I bought a GSi.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekWarrior
Insurance for me though is only around $150 diference between Vtir insurance and GSI insurance.
I wouldn't say that purely the power difference between GSi and a vti-r is a reason, i think the design and the engineering of the vti-r's engine (b18c2?!?) is much more desirable.
I simply could not afford the extra cash when i bought my car and had relatively no experience/knowledge of honda's in general, it seemed like a good price, call it an impulse. My GSi has been a reliable car, and i'm not afraid to let my girlfriend take it when she wants to because it's not a dangerous car as far as power and reliability are concerned.
The only nark i have is the price of honda support in general, servicing and parts etc. This is made obvious when im chatting to friends who own skylines, evo's etc and see the bang for buck factor their rides provide.
At the end of the day, i feel that honda enthusiasts need to stick together because there is a lot of undue critisism that comes with owning a car that looks, and is considered in some cases as a sports car, but doesn't quite have the performance to mach the label.
Every car has it's own attributes, and it's own faults. Consider what the honda engineers/designers had in mind when they produced these models. I don't know about other people on this site but i find myself constantly defending my decision to buy/drive a honda, and being critisised for driving a 'rice mobile'. The car i drive is not fast and doesn't look like something from the fast and furious, BUT ITS MINE!
You make do with what you have.
**end rant, wipes eyes**
the point of that post is to show B18b can get around to the time which vti-r is able to with just basic mod, it is bit hard to find a stock gsi with type r tanny : )
Only $150 difference? lol It's about $400-500 difference for me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Felix
Since my GSi is my first car, power doesn't really bother me. I'm gona use my GSi to drive around for a while and do a couple of mods to it until I save up some more money and my insurance rating gets better an then I'll buy a better car. :thumbsup: :)
insurance on a vtir was more for me than my S15!!!
i was paying 1260 a year for my S15 and the same company wanted 1500 for a vtec integra!!!
my gsi only cost me 400 a year!!
and when its turbo its only gona be an extra 30 buks a year.
so the choice was obvious for me
vtir would cost me and extra 4gs for an equivelent in condition car as my gsi prob more as my gsi was a bargain price.
rather put the 4gs into my boost account.
I pay around $1300 a year for my vtir through Just Car Insurance. I got a quote on the same year GSI and it was $1150. I also got a quote for GSI turbo and it was around the $2200 mark (not sure exactly). I got these quotes cause this was what i was decideing between before buying my Vtir.
I bourght my 98 vtir for $16 000 (in perfect condition, no mods, and 70 000kms), all the late 1990's GSI's that i looked at had around 90 000kms - 130 000kms and were asking between $15000 and $19 000. So i figured i might aswell get this vtir, its around the same price as a GSI.
Yeah I paid the same price for my 98 gsi!! --90,000K
Ah I see. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Felix
i paid 11 for my 96.
$600 for insurance.
bout 30dollar increase a year for goin turbo
Greekwarrior. If its a GSI its a DC4 not DC2.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekWarrior
Oh.....well I got the stats from this site lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felix
Stats
just look under ur bonnet at the badge
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Originally Posted by GreekWarrior
stats updated =D
stop being narcs.
Yeah I saw the DC4 on the badge under the bonnet. :p
Final drive for gsi is 4.2:1, vtir and itr is 4.4:1 and the individual gears are higher too.
Back on topic for a change....
Has anyone ever done the conversion? Has anyone done a SIMILAR conversion? Has anyone ever tested two cars where, all else being equal, one had LSD, the other did not?
Please, i'd really like to know because i'm sick of internet mechanics and people saying they can do a time in a stock car that is impossible!
The guy asked a question and he got laughed at. One guy wrote a response and the next 10 were exactly the same, how about contributing something worthwhile for a change!
Listen to what "String" had to say, he seems to know what he is talking about. Year 12 physics doesn't mean you know all the science behind a car, there is much more to learn and "String" seems to have done the research
final drive is different, ill try and find the gear ratios and post them to answer his question as far as the two cars having a race with same gear box and both being stock i dont know. but the vtir has a beter power to weight ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by locote
but gsi wins in torque to weight ratio
also vtir has better suspension, so vtir has the extra edge on the cornering too. Well it feels like it with the gsi's and vtirs i've driven.
thats if you bought a car with stock suspension which i didnt, i still hate the handling so im goin coil overs.
yeah but we were talking about stock vtir vs stock gsi ONLY diference being LSD.
Locote - You got ya turbo yet. About 3 months ago you said you would have it on in 3months. Will it be a never ending "i'm gonna". lol ----- Sorry to go off topic.
just got back from travelling, there is one question here, how much will it exactly cost to put set a turbo, i have seen different price around, one is 4500-5000,one is 8000.BTW I'm in sydney
depends on the set up
a cheap setup might only cost ya 2000 doesnt mean its last 1000ks
and my kit is in my garage.
400hp garret t28R, along with my crower cam kit, 6kg flywheel, looking at buying a KAAZ lsd, HD organic clutch.
i wanna get it all put in at once dont wanna take my car backwards and forwards from workshop.
wont b goin in soon cause my license has been suspended.
i dont drive the car.
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Originally Posted by locote
Fair enough...
good luck.
oh That's why you are selling your 403's ,hehe you got 402t,good luck man. my exhaust is 2.36",i'm regretting now : ( , should have got at least 2.5" then i can just put on a turbo when i feel like it without concerning the size of pipe. Just wondering anyone knows anybody set a t28 with 2.25"-2.36" pipe?
the 403s would still be better for FI than stock cams any way so im getting them installed next week ill get it tuned up with the safc2, take it to drags c what i can pull,
then the next time i go itll have twice the power