I put my hand in and felt my cold air intake after driving in rain... and uhh its wet.. that's ok right? As long as not submerged!?
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I put my hand in and felt my cold air intake after driving in rain... and uhh its wet.. that's ok right? As long as not submerged!?
correct, although not ideal. Perhaps make up a splash guard to put your mind at ease.Quote:
Originally Posted by RtN
Thanks.
i put a cheapo CAI on my 4th gen prelude, makes a great sound. With 150,000kms on, the intake hasnt caused an issue. I have driven through massive puddles and the car has 300,000kms going strong!
The prelude is a good car to put one on, as you can hide the filter in the old resonator space which is protected from the elements.
Police have given me defects for the exhaust and tail lights but they could never work out if the Chrome pipe was stock or not. The filter cant be seen.
I personally think that even if the filter got wet, it would struggle to suck what small amounts of water could get through, all the way up the pipe.
damn man just converted my SRI back to CAI and can tell the car is alot smoother but throttle response has decreased, but nice shrill sound when revving.
I'm looking to buy a sri from ebay which comes complete pod filter. My question is: Can I only install the sri without having a cai system?
Eventually I'll do CAI but for now I'll start with sri, but just wanted to clear this up first. thanks ;)
i dont get it, when u install an intake, u either have a SRI OR a CAI, u can't have both, unless u got a SRI with a DIY cold air feed.... is that wat u mean
Yes, I should have made reference to this thread to make it more clear... http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...ight=resonator
Cool, thanks for clearing that up!
i don't give a f*ck what 3/4 of ricers may think. extended ram pipes is completely useless. think about it... your extending the pipe. you loose response immediately. only thing that works for n/a cars is shortening the intake pipe as much as you can. usually relocate the battery to the boot. then pod filter enclosure along with a cold air feed. pod filter must be high flow. usually resulting in poor filteration. theres always a compromise between filteration and flow.
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Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
I agree with you man :thumbsup:
There's a bigger compromise with SRI compared to a well designed CAI. Perhaps you should do some research.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
Yeah your right. you compromise the fact that you won't get points from other ricers.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-onedc2
Please elaborate your statement?
btw I didn't say anything about a short ram, i'm talking about shortening of the factory intake piping.
You're pretty wrong. A well design CAI will tunnel the air and give it much more velocity. You will lose response slightly going to a longer pipe of course, but when you're talking about 15-20cm of extra pipe on a system that can be like 100cm long, it's pretty trivial, especially when the air is travelling faster in the CAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
I don't like ricers any more than you, and you clearly don't like them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6-SpeedManual
I think I misread your post, if you mean extending the stock CAI inlet without giving thought to improved flow, then yes I agree.
yow fellaz just a quick question about this thread, does the size of the pipe matters? like 3inch or 2.5inch?? does is make any difference? thanks :)
great info guys, my euro has a k and n typhoon short ram with cai extention, i think i may now use the cai after hearing this good exlpanation. cheers!
me and a friend did this not long ago and thought it was a good idea.
we've kept the stock piping,
added 3A racing pod (with the inner depth @ the center),
then cable tied an adjustable pipe to run from inbetween the side of the radiator and drivers headlight and into the inner center of the pod...
heres sum pics to explain a little better!
I think maybe we need to do some dyno testing to get some real results...there is a lot of technical talk about all this and i think the biggest result is going to be noise related thinking your car goes faster....i would think on a dyno you would be lucky to get an extra 2kw atw and at that rate you may aw well have just pulled your spare tyre out for the day...anyway good luck guys
i think from having a pod to having a "cold pod" is bugger all difference, but from the stock box to a pod theres a bigger difference, maybe 5-10 kw? correct me if im wrong :DQuote:
Originally Posted by betty792
yeah man great post, explains a lot..
no offence, but i doubt that flexi pipe would do anything...Quote:
Originally Posted by _bORdO_
ahahah :o im pretty sure your right when you say that... although it seems logical - kinda? dont you think? :confused:
so im driving yeah, and whilst im driving cold air is constantly gushing into the pipe and straight up into my pod which is sucking in air...
i mean it wouldnt be just cold air running throughout the whole diametre of the pod but it has to add at least 10% more cold air than usual .... errm that is to say i havent actually tested this ahaha!
It's the illusion of it that makes me feel better :cool:
given that hot air is easier to suck, your likely to get like 5% more cold air, if that. even less if your not running a ram setup in the bumper.
but if you like it, whatever :P
IMO I think its a good idea.. the fuel economy of short ram with a little, and I say little not massive gain (for the arguers) to get the cold air gains.. good work dude.. May I ask where you got that flexi piping from, and how did you get it to stay in the pod? Also what is your pod shield made out of?
cheers
Thanks Chriskoss,
It's a Monza heat shield and i think it's aluminised steel sheets, which i think is ment to cool heaps quicker than normal steel sheets.
The flexi pipe i got from a friend who works at autotechnica, so im not sure about the avaliablity of them. But i have seen these pipes in airconditioning places believe it or not ahhaa. Try your luck there.
To keep it in place I
- wedged the bottom tip of it under the overflow bottle which hold really firm for starters.
- used a cable tie to hold the center of it (shown in picture 3)
- the top end just sits inside the center of the pod (so i didn't need to secure the top part)
Note: The cable tie needs to be changed every so often only bc after a while of constant heat from the engine it hardens and snaps easily.
Thanks for that dude! Very helpful info I'm sure alot of us can use
cheers
hi all,
I just installed an alloy heatshield over a SRI with a K&N filter, then ill be making a cold air feed from underneath. I mainly did this to prevent any defects... I like to be able to drive without having to worry about getting a defect notice for a petty thing such as having a open pod filter in ur engine bay!
here's some pics:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02283.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02298.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02300.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02302.jpg
Damn,looks good, im trying to make one atm,hard to make it fit, how did you go about doing it
P.S doesnt it make an annoying rattling sound during idle/driving?
sorry for the late reply,Quote:
Originally Posted by Chriskoss
I'm still working on the bottom end (cold air feed) of this setup.
here's some pics of the mounting points I used
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...ngpoints-1.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...tingpoints.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...ntingpoint.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...epipemount.jpg
and no, so far so good I don't hear any rattles :)
next step is to removed the resonator:
first front bar was taken out to gain access (note: circled where the screws and bolts are)
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...barremoval.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a.../resonator.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...barremoved.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a.../EF8mounts.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...torremoved.jpg
now this is ready to be instralled
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02418.jpg
so far here's what she looks like atm,
Not perfect but looks O.K. :thumbsup:
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02422.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02427.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02439.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02445.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...m/DSC02440.jpg
Looks great! Thanks so much for the detailed diagrams, will make it alot easier when I do mine :)
cheers
No probs mate, just give us a yell if ya need a hand!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chriskoss
Adrian you're such a whinger ---> "Not perfect but it looks O.K." my butt man, it looks rockin'!
PS: Sending out my J's Racing Lips tomorrow hopefully. Gotta source some scrap aluminium to make myself some brackets too...
review from my own experience =
For Carby engine..
I own a EG GL.. I did an experiment using CAI pipe going down thru the bumper grill.. what i noticed from stock piping and CAI has a big improvements.. Im not tryna talk shit or anything.. im saying from my own experience...
What i noticed are the engine response.. Using OEM intake which connects to the hole into the side quarter panel, and CAI.. The oem has more harder suction which i felt that engine was holding back.. I was on first gear.. revd it to 6000rpm.. The rpm didnt move as fast as the diy cai...and wen i use the diy cai, it pretty much went quicker which basically quicker response.. dont know about you carby owners, but it did make a difference to me.. btw, what i mean by cai is not with the pod, its just a pipe sucking in cold air from out side..
Also when i was on M4.. i was driving 100.. Usually the response for me to go to 120 isnt that quick with oem piping, but comparing it to the cai.. it was much quicker response..
and again, it was good shit. lol sorry if i repeated my self a few times
Just sharing experiences :)
go turbo =D
I have a CAI for my dc2. i have 2 custom pipes and a small pipe connecting to my podfilter. I tried installing it but the pod wouldnt fit at the problem. So i just took out one of the pipes and made it into a Short ram intake. Is there any harm of doing that? using cai pipes as a sri?
nothing wrong with that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CEEVIC
Since i didn't finish my last post in this thread here's my current set-up:
DIY A COLD AIR FEED
Remove front bar
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC02349.jpg
Remove old resonator box
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC02353.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC02355.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04844.jpg
Install the Superr-Flex (A/C) Vent ducts, cut to shape, and mount it in.
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC02419.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04851.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04852.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04854.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04855.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04846.jpg
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04845.jpg
Create an opening for cold air to feed through your new setup
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04857.jpg
Time to install your front bar back in yo!
http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/DSC04858.jpg
check out DIY section for more info: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...-cold-air-feed
nice +1 from me
if the end of the airbox has a pipe that goes somewhere where it can suck in "cold" air then it can be classified as cold air intake. But if its directly on then... i think its still sucking in hot air. Not really a good idea as you would do one or the other only. 2 filters = air flow restrictions.
So yeh basically you can either:
- not use the pod.. and use a panel filter (stock or K&N Drop-In). And direct the pipe to down lower like where ur resonator used to be etc
- use the pod and not use the panel filter.
I recommend the first option as thats kinda what the icebox/mugen intakes are based on.
Use an idea similar to this:
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/di...PagePosition=1
Just wanna put in my 2c, i've been looking at a aftermarket intake for ages. And I found a review below to be especially insightful:
http://www.jdmlove.org/reviews/intak...sp1431-intake/
I'm personally very interested in the "Ice Box" setup, it' seems to be a the perfect compromise between SRI and CAI with less tendency to both heat transfer issues with SRI and the Water problems with CAI.
And IceBoxes seems to be pretty darn cheap compared to some of the CAI's out there (due to the fact it's just plastic), also it keeps your car looking VERY stock, good for the insurance companies... but if you want shiney engine bay then i guess CAI/SRI is still the way to go...
PS: I've found ANY aftermarket intake will give you more power due to the fact it removes the resonator.... Hell even stock intake will give more oomph if you remove the resonator.
is long ram intake just like cold air intake? since theyre mounted in the same way both would suck in cold air
as far as i know yeah, Long ram is just the CAI, ie: long piping going OUT of the engine bay.Quote:
is long ram intake just like cold air intake? since theyre mounted in the same way both would suck in cold air
Edit: Got an idea... I've heard from some Yaris forums with people putting holes in the bottom of the airbox like swiss cheese.
Anyone tried that? considering the airbox in my Euro CL9 is right againest the body work, I might put some holes in the intake pipe between the resonator and the airbox and see if that makes any difference.
Hey all, first post right here!!
I have been looking into a short ram air intake for my 1991 Civic Gl, but all the manfacturers' notes say that their product is for the Si model only.
Can I install a short ram air intake into my Gl model, so long as it fits, or is there a reason for the 'Si only' warning?
Cheers!
if your civic is dual carb not injection so you can not install cai. you should replace the filter inside the back box.Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerChef
Is it legal to use cai in Melbourne, will it pass rwc ?
As far as I know, exposed filter = defect in VIC.Quote:
Originally Posted by hmetro24
Defect! It can get soaked in fuel and catch fire... :|
Exposed oil-based filters are illegal (most of them are oil-based) but paper-based are not.
Just put it in the guard above wheel-well. That's enclosed IMO.
Are Cold Air Intakes Legal In Victoria. Also how difficult are they too install/will i kill my engine installing it in my backyard?
/ i have a 98 Civic VTi Hatch, Fresh off the boat from Japan.
they are not really hard to install, most of the are just plug and play, but sometimes it depends on what type of brand your getting, also if its the right one for your car..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirumz
If a person drives their car in such a way that hydrolock becomes a problem, they shouldn't be driving/owning a decent car in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
a Decent CAI makes small amounts of power gains but makes the car sound much nicer. Keep in mind that in most states they are illegal. I've heard of some people putting a stock box over the CAI so it seems like it it a stock intake system
Do intakes make more power after being tuned?
Yes, your car will.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR.K
oh cool. how much does a typical intake tune cost btw?Quote:
Originally Posted by androo
It makes more power after a 'tune' but you don't have your car tuned after getting an intake.
Tune = 5-10 times the cost of the intake.
You only tune when you need it.
After an intake, disconnect your battery for a few minutes then plug it back on so your ECU resets itself and adjusts to the new intake setup. That's all.