The evo came to picture because I am looking at getting either another euro or an evo (read my first post!).Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
As for it being a riced up lancer, WHO CARES? It is the best performance car under $100k period.
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The evo came to picture because I am looking at getting either another euro or an evo (read my first post!).Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
As for it being a riced up lancer, WHO CARES? It is the best performance car under $100k period.
Seeing as there is no "euro" in your list of cars, how about you Fcuk off to the other forums? :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
erm this thread needs to be closed I think, too much flaming ftw
:thumbsup: foe shaw, class is what its all about. whats the point of having performance when these days when you do use performance theres a cop waiting for you around the corner? anyways thats my $0.02 worth lol. luxury and class, its the way to live life :pQuote:
Originally Posted by kitbkk
Seeing as I have been asked to be nice to you guys,Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
All I have to say is, Although I think the Euro is a great car, just like the Lancer Evolution is also ~
All that matters is what you get out of owning your vehicle. Personally, if I had a Euro, and I wanted to sell him to get another one, there would be no real point to upgrade to a current model, because mechanically, it is the same car, and has had minor changes. Why not just keep the existing one.
And for those that are telling me to f off - that everyone has an opinion,
well, you're chastising me for having an opinion too, I find that rather hypocritical.
That is not the point. The point is if you would buy another one, regardless of if you have one now, or had one. It is a question really aimed at people with some idea of what the euro is like to own.Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
i think, that is the part you missed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
it would be like having a pair of jeans you wear every day, and then going out and buying a brand new pair of the same - what's the difference?
All i've got to say is that i'm happy with my Euro.It's a good all round car.:)
That's exactly the point. If you know they are good jeans, you really like them, would you buy another pair the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by yourfather
I know people who drive Commodores. They would never ever get another Holden ever again.
What's the reason behind getting another Euro? IF your current Euro is fine as it is, why is there a need to get another one? Unless it was damaged, really worn and thrashed, or change of transmission, I don't really see the point.
If your happy with the Euro, stick with it and get another weekend car. Else, just mod it and have a bit of fun. All depends on what your after. For me, if I had to trade the Euro, I wouldn't get another Euro. Maybe wait for the next Euro or maybe another car. If it had to be a new car for around $45-55K, I'd pick:
- Golf GTi
- Mazda 3 MPS
- RX8
- MX5
- 350Z
- EVO!
Personally, I rather performance than luxury anyday. All of the above cars except the Evo has respectiable interior and creature comforts. All of them are more performance oriented than the Euro.
rx8,mx5 and 350z are not practical compare to the others
RX8 isn't all that bad with 4 seats. Plus there was no mention of practicality in this thread so I assumed any car was up for consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
Meh.... practicality isn't really an issue, it is only me and the missus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slugoid
With the 350Z, it is a bit too expensive and you would have to pay luxury car tax. The mazda RX8 seems to be priced about the same as the EVO and would be a nice step up indeed, no luxury car tax either!
theres nothing wrong with the evo at all..
yes its not as refined as the euro but the performance is in another league.
coming from owning turbo cars and then to the euro it was a nice change to have a more upmarket and refined car.
but sometimes it works the other way,and some people that have always owned a stylish refined car like a euro would move on to a less refined but more raw and powerfull car..understandable really...
Yep.that about sums it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
Who said the Euro (manual) isnt a performance car? 7.7sec (7 flat if u power shift) is respectable, and easily beats the MX5 and RX8 auto, plus its almost as good as the wrx around corners according to the Wheels Mag comparo. Plus its a lux car so u have the best of both worlds ;)
^^ It's not a performance car.
Thats what makes it a good all round car.Particularly as a daily driver it's very easy to live with.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
well its not a "sports" car but its performs well. unless its an auto ;)
mugen88's euro and my dc2 are about the same speed :)
On track the Euro is no match for the DC2, both stock.
well, mugen and I were at albert park last night lol
yeah, turning is heaps easier in my car. and braking late too
Is yours a VTiR or Type R?
I was in this situation a couple of weeks ago - could have gone another euro but i went for a vw polo gti with leather instead...
Paint / panel quality isn't quite as good as the euro but the interor fit and quality is :) The seats in the gti are to die for :) Plus having a turbo is an advantage hehe
vti-rQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Maybe not,but 7.7secs.isn't to be sneezed at!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
So you got rid of the Euro,wasn't yours an 05 model?Why did you sell it???:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spec83
Interesting you went for the Polo rather than the Golf GTi. How's the performance in the Polo?? According to Motor is only does 0-100km/h in 8.58s. But I guess it will demolish the Euro around the corners ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spec83
I'm am now very annoyed with my MY05 Euro Lux because I am getting a creaking noise from the back, just behind the seat, when I corner or go up a driveway. I'll have to check whether it may be due to poor installation of Mugen coilovers about 9 months ago. I hope it's something that can be easily fixed.
If I were to buy a new car now for a similar price to the Euro Lux, I'd probably go for a Turbo FSI Jetta with the leather interrior and electric seats (sunfroof and Xenons make it a lot more expensive). Apart from the awesome torque, the 6-speed DSG transmission gives it a major advantage, since it has the practicality of an auto, yet is faster 0-100 than a manual (the Jetta Turbo doesn't come in manual, but the DSG Golf GTI is faster than the manual GTI). The Jetta also has excellent sports suspension as standard, and much better paint quality than the Euro (much more resistant to swirls, scratches and chips). The refinement levels are very close. On the downside, there is a lot of evidence that VW reliability is well below Honda standards, but since I only intend to keep the car while under factory warranty, that's a risk I'm willing to take.
Rear creaking noise is/was a common issue. Its usually either the rear sway bar or the parcel tray behind the passenger speaker.
Parcel tray (rear deck) creak
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=creak
Other creaks
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/search.php?searchid=379903
Thanks. The second link doesn't work, but I'll check the parcel tray, which is where it sounds like it's coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
I think I quite like the Lexus IS250, its not too badly priced for what you get!
Although ever since the new Camry came out - I think they look too much alike - from far away especially from the rear, u can't really tell that easily!
Anyway - between the EVO IX and the STI - I think I'll go for the STI. Just because it has better interior and also HID's on it. The EVO is probably the best cornering machine ever on earth, but the STI isn't that far behind it in performance in the dry, sometimes even better (but you've to take into consideration fact that STI is running semi-slicks, which are slippery as hell in the wet. MOTOR should do a test in the wet with an STI and EVO, instead of only in the dry, me thinks.)
If you haven't owned a Turbo AWD before, I would seriously think you should get an STI or EVO. They're just so damn good at what they do, its not funny!
But to answer the original question, I will def buy another Euro again, provided it could be modded or at least got some better power and especially front end traction!
i too, see no point, in selling a euro, and then buying a euro
not when all you get is a console + rims upgrade
and your loosing so much money on the trade, the money lost, just spend on the current car, itll easily get you a bodykit + rims etc
which will look and feel much better than a new euro
im personaly kinda getting sick of the euro
4cyl = sounds weak, and the car has no charactare or feel to it, not like old cars did. new cars, everything is electronic, i feel like im not connected with the car at all :(
that's because your euro is 'stocky pocky' lol of course it's going to feel bland its a 'refined' car from factory. They can be a bit if fun if you want them to be though...
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Originally Posted by aleksandrov
Re second link, search the Accord (not Euro) section for "creak".
There are alot of Euro threads that have not been moved from the Accord section to the Euro section.
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Originally Posted by kam
LOL...i hate climate control on the euro!
i want my simple switches, instead of having to press buttons and cycle through to the mode that i want, to the fan speed i want...bah!
would have to buy 1 before i can buy another one. but if sure would get one if i had the cash.
U think thats bad? You should try BMW's iDrive, hectic...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by corn_flakes
I don't like it either.Just use the A/C switch and fan.Don't worry about climate control.That's what i do!Quote:
Originally Posted by corn_flakes
jesus guys, i don't see how adjusting the fan speed could be simpler than just having a preset temperature.
I find the fan blows too hard when it's set on auto after the car is parked for a while on a hot day.Just my opinion!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
So do I, but I guess it tries to get the car to set temp asap even if it's uncomfortable for the driver to have a cyclone in their face. :)
Wouldn't buy another Euro, the reason being:
1. Too many dash rattles (which cant be fixed by Honda)
2. Drifting problem (maybe due to choice in tyres, which also can't be fixed by Honda) on the lxry, sport model with 17" bridgestones.
3. Sun roof doesnt automatically shut when car turns off.
4. Not enough power (needs a turbo).
5. Needs to be rear or 4wd.
6. Honda's quality assurance policy is a scam..just plain marketing bullshit.
Am I asking for too much??? Nope don't think so cause if it had all this plus what my lxry model has already I would buy one most definetly, so would the rest of Aust. too IMO. :thumbsup:
I've got an 06 lux as well.had it 4 mths.done 7600kms.Re: 1 Not a squeak or rattle in the car at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
(If there was i'd find them!!!).2.All i can say is i changed the OEM tyres from new by choice(or good luck!!!) and i get NO drifting/pulling whatsoever!!!!.:confused:
Long story short - GF and I parted way after 2.5yrs and we had been paying half each.. she wanted to keep the car so i said fine and went and bought something else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Slugoid
Didn't want a golf gti as once optioned up tips the scales around $46-50k where as my fully optioned polo was $31k drive away... only .2lt less in the engine department plus its hell smaller and easier to park.. It isn't as quick as the euro in a straight line but there is big torque from the turbo low down which maks going up hill and overtaking without changing gears easy as.. and yes it holds on like shit ot a blanket...
Going to get the HPR ecu upgrade in 2 weeks time hopefully - hello 152kW :D I dare say it will then be faster than the euro in a straight line
Sounds like it'll be a little beast :). Looking forward hear more about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spec83
anyone heard about having ur car replaced by ur insurance company after a car accident? even if minor?
as it de-values the car, and the car is like brand new....
i need to do this!
what happened to ur car?
I don't think they will replace your car with a brand new one if it can still be repaired. only a written off car will be replaced with a brand new one (if your car is < 1-3 years old depending on the insurance company). Of course if there's such an insurance company like that, I'd like to know about it. But premium would be huge!
lol sometimes i joke around with my mate about pulling off an insurance job
ie: smashing into each other, or stealing our cars lol
careful kam, if insurance company reads this and something happened to your car *touch wood* they might refuse to pay.
i don't think so.the premiums would be thru the roof.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by corn_flakes
Also. Would anyone consider the new Toyota Aurion? About same price as Euro but with awesome engine from the specs. If it's the same engine as the GS350 then WOOHOO!!! I think only the car is made here and the engine is from Japan.. hopefully from the Lexus plant :P
Dad's Camry V6 Touring is still going strong after 65K and I must say much more quiet than my Euro (very sad to admit). I think it was the same engine as the ES300 of the time.
[QUOTE=^__^ SM ^__^]Also. Would anyone consider the new Toyota Aurion? About same price as Euro but with awesome engine from the specs. If it's the same engine as the GS350 then WOOHOO!!! I think only the car is made here and the engine is from Japan.. hopefully from the Lexus plant :P
The earlier Camry V6s had the Lexus platform,engine,trans etc.Body made in Aust.So i think it would be the same with the Aurion.Yeah,would be int.to give one a fang.It'd go well!!!:thumbsup:
[QUOTE=tony1234]YES!Quote:
Originally Posted by ^__^ SM ^__^
That new Aurion is quite good. In fact even the new Camry is good too. Well I reckon too much power going thru the front wheels isn't the best idea but I guess at least you get more torque (and higher fuel consumption!)
I reckon those new Toyotas look like the IS250.. :)
Great price. Would seriously consider one next time, although interior still reeks of Toyota conservatism. As for reliability, hmm... Toyota Engines and everything else breaks down too much in Formula 1 lol. Hope its not affecting their image! :o
[QUOTE=Omotesando]Toyota reliability is good.IS250 is a hot looking car.Would like to take 1 of them round the block a few times.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Toyota engineering is almost bulletproof (well - at least in road cars)... some of the earlier engine series (3E & 5E) could do a cam belt while running and the engine would still be fine....
But i guess so are commodore engine - my dad's had 278,000kms without a major rebuild so its how you treat them too which counts...
As for the Aurion - I am not too keen :(
It all depends - If they can fix my veering to the right issue - YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
If not - No
Veering to the right? Probably covered in another thread but sounds like caster or camber out from kerb kissin? Frustrating I'm hearing you there. A lot of front end aligners want a quick fix with just 'toe in' adjustment or wheel swapping which wont fix it.
i went from a Ti maxima to a civic and now I'm in a Euro. I missed the luxury and now I can still have fun in the twisty stuff and have a little luxury as well. As for another Euro, "when I grow up, I want to be a LEGEND :D "Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
What's the latest on your drifting/pulling cgspot???Quote:
Originally Posted by cgspot
Most Toyota engines are non-interference engines. Even the nice 2zz-ge won't munch the valves if the timing chain snapped.
BTW, while I don't like the new Camry's look, the Aurion is much better looking with better quality plastics in the interior. If I was shopping in the 35-40k range, I'd seriously consider it. When I bought my Euro, the only competition was the Mazda6 and Liberty. Throw the Aurion in, and it is a whole new game as the Aurion has good fuel consumption figures when driven normally. The only downside is the auto-only transmission.
agreed lol, the new camry has been beaten by the ugly stick, at least its a bit better than the previous model. The Aurion looks champ tho..
Nice car but too big!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Im sure the aurion is a comfortable car with more than enough power... I have my doubts as to how it handles compared to a euro though... I wouldn't trade my euro for one any day of the week
Nothing at the moment, will let you know through the pulling to the right thred if there are any developments :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
yeah.I agree.there's more to a car than straight line performance.I'd rather own a car with less kw and better handling than more kw and not so good handling!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
2nd recall for the Commodore VE................ http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0...-21822,00.html
I heard that today. Thats funny. Two recalls in two months. Thats dedication to qality testing.
gotta love holden and how they reckon they can compete with bmw ..haQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
they can't even compete with honda mazda or subaru..
like i said to a mate of mine.."i know it does 13.4 but it's still a holden and it's only a matter of time before the problems start to creep in".
Another reason why I would never ever own an australian built car. :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Yep.I'll say it again,why would u buy their overated pieces of crap.Theyr'e a joke.:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
lol@holden... thats what happens when you constantly release sub standard cars using 10year+ old technology (they still use pushrods for the V8's for example) then rush and play the catch-up game and try to copy German cars where the technology has already matured.
Still prefer Holden over Ford though lol..
The thing is recalls are fine, but recalls for such problems that shouldn't have happened in the first place are ridiculous!
A seat belt buckle that releases itself shouldn't pass ADR in the first place!
the old push rods are from the late 50's i think from trucks...Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
they will always be bommodores to me. fair enough they are good to drive around a family of 5 and can tow a trailer but yeh over priced and lack of quality, they say they spent over 1 billion on development...i reckon half went on developing the marketing! holden and ford get good parts from around the world and chuck it together to make a car. so a car is never fully engineered from top to bottom thats why i think they arent that great.
I'll stick with jap cars, maybe top model euros when im rich ;)
I can't help but laugh when people say pushrod technology is old.... when DOHC was first used in a Fiat in 1912!!!! DOHC is just as old. (just slightly younger) HAHAHAHAHAH
pfft, i'd still prefer a 351 xy gt over a euro............. for performance.
and myabe for looks.
lol.
Come on now... 2 valves per cylinder? Say what?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
DOHC/SOHC/Pushrod. Who was talking about the number of valves per cylinder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
haha typreR, DOHC stands for double overhead cam
Fords were build better in those days.Quote:
Originally Posted by destrukshn
My mate had a xc coupe with 351, the roof and 2 rear qtr panels were one piece, and tough as nuts, you wont get metal machined like that these days.