dam nice ride man.Quote:
Originally Posted by k20man
and on the original topic, personally i'd prefer the eg with k series swap.
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dam nice ride man.Quote:
Originally Posted by k20man
and on the original topic, personally i'd prefer the eg with k series swap.
LOL I don't do drags. Straight lines are for pussys.
Just a question? How many of you hero's have actually tracked before, or own super quick drag cars, or how many of you guys own a car that doesn't have chromes or 18 inch wheels. LOL.
For those of you that track... who drops below 4000RPM on the track?
"LOL I don't do drags. Straight lines are for pussys."Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
Mate your comment is abit childish there. Drag racing is a form of motorsport that pros spend millions of dollars into developing and improving for the public. It isn't for pussys and if you were abit more open minded you would appreciate a wide variety motor racing.
The blokes that are replying to ur comments love all aspect of racing from Drag to circuit etc. Your the one who's very closed minded to the idea of a car having bottom end power and his straight line powers. Either that or your too stubborn to realize you've dug yourself a hole and its getting deeper and deeper.
Read through your previous comments... If you look at it from an objective point of view you'll know what i mean :).
Regard,
David
HAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
So you've got a nugget motor with no bottom end and suddenly you're a fvkn circuit racing authority??
Ignorance is bliss my friend :thumbsup:
LOL you guys are funny.
:confused: how so ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
hahahha
Just are... don't worry.
I see people come on here and give their honest opinions, and on other forums, opinions are valued, and not crapped out. That's how you guys are funny. I think this forum is funny. That is all.
Opinions are like arseholes. Additionally, if they aren't justified, they carry about as much merit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
Go back and read what you wrote. None of it makes any sense what so ever, sounds like you're in self denial.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
THERE are ways in communicating your thoughts by not making bad of other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
if you don't like about one thing, just don't talk about it. talk about the things you like, we don't mind. but saying things like "its for pussys" its not really opinion isn't it?
Man is isn't thread to try and help out the guy make his decision on eg or dc2r? why are you talking crap keep it to pm
We do both drag and circuit. So you should stfu before you say anything.
We love both motorsports both have its pro and con. And for comment about dropping below 4000rpm, IDIOT!
Why ? cause your too ***en embrass to see what you could do? mid 14's with a built motor? LOSERQuote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
i dont know how u drive your car but not having power all through the rev range is a shit car to drive might as well leave it stock...u can achieve good times from drag and track and power from all rev range with a good tuner and the same setup on the streets...Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
u dont do straight line coz u get blown away by a stock car...Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
dude go back n read the quote, it says $5000 rotary.. some how i dont think any of those you listed are below $5000...Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
bring me any rotary worth $5000 and i WILL destroy them and your comments lol
thanks xcon
Dc2r-t!
thanks for the opinions guys... i think i'll be keeping the dc2r for another year or so. the costs and time for an eg k-series build seems a bit expensive to get the car where i want (brakes, suspension, etc).
also... my mate ran a 14.6 on a stock dc2r which i think is a great time for a stocker. plus drags, circuit... it all involves driving and its all enjoyable. as if u've never "dragged" some off from the lights, i bet everyone has done it at least once on these forums. theres also the bunch who enjoy the spirited drive down the old roads. both driving style all includes skills, some may be really good at launches/shifts down at the 1/4 and when it comes to windy roads they have some trouble and vice versa. but that "straightlines are for pussys" comment was a bit uncalled for :/ not having a go at you ricky!
Back on topic- If i had a stock-ish dc2r, I'd change the exhaust, header, intake ECU and call it a day.
It's a fabulous package from the factory, it doesn't really need anything else, and these mods alone are enough to get it deep into the 13's.
I meant $5000 engine set up dude.......seriously you cant deny the fact that an average rotary engine will smash you......and how much is your K conversion going to cost approx $13000, for that kind of cash you can produce a 9-10 sec rotary, or better..........not 12-13's which I assume you would be more than happy to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by k20man
I'm not knocking your enthusiasm for your Honda's as we all love them, if your keen to do a conversion then its all good, just don't put shit on something cause you believe what you have done/doing is the best.
so you change your story around.. first you say $5000 rotary then you change your story around to SPENDING $5000 on just the motor.. get your story straight..Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
im not bagging rotarys.. i dont mind them.. but when you make a comment like any $5000 rotary will beat any K-series conversion and B-series turbo.. i wanted to prove you wrong..
and whats that about ANY rotary engine smashing me?? i beat will and have beaten many stock/average rx7 series 6..
and when did i say my conversion was the best.. dont put words in my mouth.. i challenged your comment and that was all..
k20man have u run ur car at WSID? what time did u pull
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Originally Posted by ginganggooly
I'm with ginganggooly!!!!
i know jords post about $5000 rotaries may have been ambiguous but i understood what he meant... i thought it was quite obvious actually! so can you guys relax? Misunderstoo comment, nothing more. It's the internet, havent u ppl learnt yet to clarify things before doin a gasket over a forum comment?! IMO that's as lame as complaining about type-o's. lol.
Anyway... somewhere in the for sale section there's a k20/k24 frankenstein for sale. why not do something different and drop that in the DC2R. You'll be able to make some good cash back from selling your B18C stuff, and you also get to put some wow & surprise factor back into beating Nissans ;)
Just an idea. g/l with the decision :thumbsup:
DC2R for sure. Car will always hold better value than eg civic any day no matter wots done to the car. It looks sh*t loads better and atleast you can sell your b18cR for cash to put towards the k20 you want. ;)
this thread is entertaining to say the least.
either circuit or drags both take skill to master. If your car is a true 'track' car then it should be able to do both. I dont see how one person made the commet ' straight lines are for pussy's'?? if its for pussys then how come i dont see people with there full sick jdm bling mods or there 10k+ rebuilds out at WSID on wednesday nights when we are there??
imo, end of the day if you got a 10k+ motor then you shouldnt make excuses like ' its for circuit' because for ffs you spent that much you should be out there giving it a thrashing of its life....no point driving around with so much jdm bling or full sick engines that sound good on paper for nothing, end of the day its just wank factor and your just a 'poser'
just my take on this...
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Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
:unlove: Sob Sob
hence the saying 'drive it like you stole it'
lol
e240- hahaha leonard, love your EG though
This is one question i wouldnt mind answered either...Quote:
Originally Posted by jooboo
best time the car has run to date is 13.2 @103mphQuote:
Originally Posted by jooboo
still got stock ecu and on street tyres...
nice, so your kinda in stock ss commo territory....
that would be the new VE GTS/clubsport territoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Zilli
i think these questions are a waste of time
why dont u just give the car to someone so they can make up your mind for you, either they will sell it or keep it
its your car make up your own mind what u wanna do with it
with these questions u will always get the two same answer
sell the dc2r and do the k swap eg or keep it
my 2 cents worth
woot woot moved to noob section
Lmao!
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Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
thats why john you see me drive my car like its ment to be driven...
but aye there is a k swapped dc2r out there and it has pulled very good numbers on the dyno cant wait to see it at the creek..
hassy
You should be really careful about what you are saying man. I respect the power of a rotary, but there are b series T out there that will leave a 5k rotary engine at the finish line. $5000 is a fair bit of money, however its not gonna get you a 10 sec car. Theres so much more that needs to be done other than just whacking on a bigger turbo and saying it will "munch" all K series and B turbos. We can prove you wrong if you would really like to.Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
As for the dc2r or egk20a. I've driven both and hell they are great cars. Fatboyz, Benson and Fly down in syd proved what a stock b18r in a dc2 can really do and hell it's damn impressive. So it really comes down to what you want to do with the engines. If you are looking a heavily modifying in the future than I suggest that you go with the K series. :thumbsup:
To put it into perspective - put $5k into a rotor and $5k into a B series - you will have a winner and it will be a 1.2 or 1.3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by riceball
Put 5k into a K series and the winner will be a 2.0 by far too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
lets assume both engines are in crappy cars ( IE old r100 etc and a EG/ED)Quote:
Originally Posted by riceball
and you are correct :)
agreed :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
Oh and the EG isnt a crappy car.
ah ****in internet keyboard wars...
fought and won and lost by people who have no ****ing clue...
So thats a K series conversion + a $5000 build.......thats a shit load of cash, you would want to be doing low 12's for that kind of cash. My point is that a rotary can and does pull very good times for the money spent.Quote:
Originally Posted by riceball
i.e compared to V8's and 4 cylinders horsepower is cheap....
thats my last 5 cents.........
:thumbsup:
Now you're talking about how much a conversion would cost. Your initial post was regarding the engine itself. They are two different things if you haven't realized.
Your first point was any rotor with 5k spent on it's engine dominate all K series and B Turbos. Now you are talking about bang for buck. Not only this, you are talking about a completely different engine that doesn't even regard what the post starter has requested. Big help.
With an extra 5k on top of a K series engine you can basically fully build a whole new K series and be hitting low 12's. Or you could build a turbo kit with 5K and hit 11's.
Thats my 10 cents.
if every1 thought like u, then daewoos and hyundai's wud run around with 13b's :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
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Originally Posted by jords
yer rotarys make the power no doubt
but rotary's that have been modified dont have best reliability
like a honda and the rotary sound is not to every ones taste
once they have been modified!
Yes Buddy....I am talking about how much a conversion would cost as the original question was regarding the K conversion and the pros and cons of this conversion and the cost is part of this, thats why this started out in the lounge so it was a free and open discussion open to ideas and thoughts.......Quote:
Originally Posted by riceball
Lowa said to "buy a rotary" and I agreed, thats where the discussion turned to the power of rotary engines and the potential versus money spent. Its as simple as that.
By the way riceball, how many K conversions do you know of that run in the 6's and 7's.........................cause there are plenty of rotary powered vehicles that will run those times.
I agree 90LAN, rotarys are not reliable, thats why I sold my series II and bought a Honda.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
This is where you went wrong. By just agreeing with someone and maybe stating that it would be a better bang for buck then fair enough. Thats fine, because its the truth. However, you went into detail about "a $5000 rotary will kick any K series conversion and/or B series turbo setup." This is where you need to grab a toilet roll and wipe your mouth because obviously you don't know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
Lol. K series conversions have only become popular over the past few years. Many performance products have not even been made compared to that of other engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by jords
How about this. How many rotary engines have you seen lasted more than 200,000kms without a rebuild? Whos going to have spent more money in the end?
200,000 k's is when ppl only start doin ghetto honda turbo installs :p
what i want to know is what kind of idiot takes reliability into consideration when building a motor they want to race with? people stop comparing apples with oranges, obviously there are people on this site who wear Honda branded underwear and sleep with Asimo at night... pull your **** out of the little plastic crevice... they are two different DIFFERENT things... too much objectivity and variable... the Wankel Rotary motor is an amazing invention... so is VTEC...
i'd like to hear from someone who has owned a kswap and a rotary with 5k spent on it to give us their point of view, until then the back and forth in this thread is all wank...
y did you digg up an old thread
why are you making useless idiotic posts?
Reliability is an issue for some people as it is a daily driver.
VTEC allows their drivers to compete with rotaries at the same speed but allows them to have good driveability and not have an annoying WUMP WUMP WUMP WUMP when at the lights.
A k swap would last far beyond 200,000ks without a rebuild. As long as its properly maintained. A rotary that is pushed day in day out wouldnt live to see the day of 100,000.
That being said petrol and oil also must be considered.
VTEC > rotary when it comes to power + driveability
Rotary > vtec when it comes to power
I think rawr has just summed it up there.
Honda for reliability
Rotary for power
geez guys... everyone got over this 6 months ago!
lol
yea and no on that man..Quote:
Originally Posted by rawr
u a noob about rotarys so dont stereotype lol..