that is true, well yes i love the FD aswell lol i had to say it, looks wicked at night with a bit of light casting over it with the lights on mmmmmmm, so fierce
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that is true, well yes i love the FD aswell lol i had to say it, looks wicked at night with a bit of light casting over it with the lights on mmmmmmm, so fierce
er... maybe the question is... have you ever test drive the civic before? or you just buy it coz many ppl bought it? also, my friend bought a getz few weeks ago and the dealer treat her as if she doesnt have any money to buy i30. They barely talk or smile when she pick up the car :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by sam.
my mate got his civic from the dealer at parra and he has nothing wrong with it not even a window problem, his dont about 24,000kms now. 1st time i lean on it i slip off it, it was dat good in paint quality, maybe 70% of da civic have problems and the other 30% are great,, well i hope i'm in that 30% cuz i got a sport model
if you have a friend who has a civic in the 30% part there, maybe you can bring him (and his civic) when you pick up yours and then compare them infront of the dealer to check if the quality the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by cuongn
the thing that's pissed me off the most is that we especially bought a honda for their supposed great build quality and the service you recieve, well, the car is shit and the customer service was terrible!
If I buy a BMW, a Benz, or something along those lines, then yes I'd expect service. But when you're buying a Honda Civic.... I think the service one would expect is in a totally diff league.Quote:
Originally Posted by sam.
the build quality of the jazz.. is 10x better than that of the civic!!.. even tho I own an fd1..
its the apprentice's building the VTi models lol
i think they employed some kids with no arms to build them
I disagree, jazz gear box problems compared to civic ones are astronomical.Ile have personlaly the civic factory in thailand andf there not build by little kids
it was a figure of speech due to the lack of any "build quality" put into the civic
Edit: due to the lack of any "build quality" put into some of the civicQuote:
Originally Posted by sam.
Yup, my parents had this exact same issue. No visible signs of leaking fluid on the driveway either. Very strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozR18
My dad said the fluid level was below minimum, sitting the car on a flat surface. He picked up a bottle of transmission fluid, topped it up and now the noise is gone.
Interestingly to note, the service was done 2k ago, so it looks like either the power steering fluid level was not checked, or most of the fluid has leaked out over a period of 2000kms.
I've owned 3 honda's since I've had my license and never seen so many problems with the civic's. Something definitely is up with quality control. Makes Toyota's seem attractive!
hey guys,
had the fd for about 2-3 months, noticed the other day with the drivers side window getting jammed when its about to shut, more than half way its starts shuttering and got jammed. Turned the car off and on, it ran smoothly then happened the day after. Haven't had problems since, is this the sign of the dodgy drivers side window?
I often have the drivers side windows down just underneath the weathershields on a day to day basis.
Is there a easy fix solution ? or just take it back to Honda. I thought i'll ask here before I do take it back to them.
just need to be cleaned... use silicon spray do the trick (I think Honda ppl will do the same as well)Quote:
Originally Posted by BC8
i haven't seen an 8th gen civic that hasn't had a problem! so far build quality seems to be nil
and everyone is seeming to have this window problem.... lol its like farkeen
wtf is up are the workers trying to send honda bust, maybe start researchin
foriegn forums for problems, see if teh NZ, US and UK are having problems
aswell...
License Plate Lights stops working?? anyone?? would this be part of the warrenty?
yup, apart from the engine break down i also have the window problem. It lost its automatic wind up and down ability.
this being a honda it shouldnt happen. the accord euro from japan would have been a better choice.
engine break down??!! WTF!! that's way too soon for a brand new car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexythang
Depends exactly why the license plate lights have stopped working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingy
Have you done anything to the boot area? As in mods? Or is there any reason whatsoever why the lights may have stopped working? If not, warranty all the way id say. Get your dealer to check it out, it could be just a blown fuse.
tell me about it. i cant beleive it myself. esp having a corolla that is problem free for 9 years. not even a hiccup. now having my honda engine rebuilt already and have a rough engine start and idle than before. told them that the rebuilt engine doesnt sound right. they said they will take a look on the next service.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmondjai
they even told me that im looking too hard for imperfections. but im pretty sure it wasnt this rough and loud before the engine rebuild because i compared it to my corolla engine before and after the rebuild. whole car vibrates alot more as well. very unhappy
hope its better after the service.
Sexythang, if I were you, I'll bug them for as long as they make me happy. a rough engine is not a little imperfection, you've came across a engine rebuild already for a brand new car, I believe you don't want anymore engine problem in the future. I'll try not to leave it too late e.g. next service, go back to your dealer and reflect your disappointment to them. I've had a oil leak on the 1st day and after went back to them 3 times without success(if I remember right, the 1st 2 times they couldn't find out what the problem is, only the last time when I was with them looking, from genuine Honda tech who we rely on), I wrote a letter to the dealer principle and was prepared to address it to consumer affairs and to Honda headquarters, Australia and/or Japan. after the black and white had been sent in, their response improved significantly, and now every time I go in there, I can feel some respect, not just being push around. I recon if you are not happy, let them know and don't let yourselves suffer for something that is not your own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexythang
P.S. am I being too extreme? let me know please~
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahmondjai
ahmondjai.
nope. you're doing the correct thing. ive already done most of what you suggested. though its up to honda headquarters in melbourne only. the head mechanic has seen the car already though he doesnt beleive me when i sense there is a rough and vibrating problem. he and the general manager agreed to get it tested for idle noise and vibration when its due for the new engine checkup (1000km's....since i had an engine rebuild its the second time 1000km checkup). He will need to address it if not i would go to honda australia again and maybe japan.
extremely angry at the problems. at least an oil leak there is a sort concrete evidence. the noise and vibration is more a 'feel' thing which they will try and deny it as much as possible (as they already have as well as telling me that im affected by the engine rebuild too much and looking more hardly for problems. by the way its harder for me as i cant produce a new civic and show them the difference) but i am supremely confident its not in as new condition as it should be. its too rough for a honda and especially a BRAND NEW honda.
honda japan and honda australia need to watch out. better not let honda service/dealers turn into toyota dealers/service
sexythang, has you test drive another Civic from the same dealership or another one, or maybe get someone else to test drive it also, see if the 3rd person's opinion? I've heard of a whole brand new engine swap from my salesman, he said that Indian guy keep bugging them until they can't take it anymore and swap that for him.
yes. I would love to bug em like hell like an indian asking for a discount on a discounted item. but im also in a service orientated industry so we will be professional about it. I will give them a chance to do all the tests and rectify the problem as they have promised unless they can show me there isnt a problem at all and this happens to all civics. if it isnt then i wouldnt waste time complaining that many times again and just go to top management and will expect good compensation in one form or the other. If not then i wouldnt buy another honda again and will go back to toyota/lexus.
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Originally Posted by Sexythang
hey are you paying for it or what???? is honda paying for it
you should ask for a K20A while theyre at it, just for your trouble.
its causing you hardship cause i cant get to work lol
Hey guys opened my boot tonight and water was sitting in the drivers side boot hindge trim plastic ended up soakign the boot floor anyone had this will investigate more
looks like got problems with rubber surrounding. just claim to dealer.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkdr
just a shitbox honda thing dude!
a fair few of these FD1's are starting to actually sound like sh!tboxes...
but how can i be angry they look so sexy lol
to be frank. i think i deserve a new car. everyday i drive it i think to myself....this cant be happening. its a honda!Quote:
Originally Posted by Riviera
looking back now....i wouldnt buy a honda again unless it was made in japan (thats only if i decide to go honda again). the extra 1 or 2k aud is worth it instead for a small discount from being thai built.
engine breakdown? what exatcly happened? can you tell me more about your situation? cos im kinda in the same boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexythang
another engine break down??? WTH is wrong??Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob san
I can honestly say.. the civic is pretty poorly built..and i personally reckon its because its made in thai..my brother had a jazz, that thing is so well build compared to the civic.. and its cheaper..
Correct me if im wrong anyone, but isn't the Jazz Thai built as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick108
They are talking about the previous year one, not the new current Jazz
Oh wow! I thought ALL Jazzes were made in Thailand. My bad.
I can honestly say, I have no issues with my FD1.
I don't reckon the build quality is low.. I think some of you expect too much from a car...
well some of us expect the car to run for at least 3 years without the engine failing....Quote:
Originally Posted by markCivicVti
also i had no issues with the car until my engine gave up the ghost... no a single damn problem then suddenly boom.
yeh.. I think the current jazz is like thai built.. I think they call it jazz vibe?.. we got ours when jazz just came out.. so well built.. and the engine is even better build.. love that engine..
i'm not expecting to much, it's the most expensive car being only a vti, corolla etc is much cheaper! i was willing to pay the extra for honda's so called high quality, oh and we just had our 20K service done and told them about the window problem and they just sprayed lube on it! WTF!!! it's a problem, they should fix it not just use a "band aid" fix! we're never buying a honda again! they seem to be turning overpriced pos!
mind telling a story?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob san
and heres you being ignorant....Quote:
Originally Posted by markCivicVti
Are you not reading through all these problems..?? these are not supposed
to occur on a BRAND NEW vehicle this is a item of transport, people sit, eat,
breath, drink, travel is these vehicles... when your paying 30k you expect nothing but "Grade A" quality, its holding onto your life at 100km/h and some
dont know what it is, but a brand new life wielding, road rocket. should
not
* Break down - its brand new...
* Have window issues - then be fixed with window lube its nothing to do
with window track dryness
* Have flat tyres after you leave the dealership
* Have Interior Panels popping out just because its a little warm outside
just aint on...
yay, my 6 stacker broke down today. it comes up with MECH ERROR. You cant load any cds. Anyone know how to solve this problem? OR just take it to dealer?
look it up in the troubleshoot in the manual if its got one if not off to the dealer
MECH ERROR - Mechanical error - CD jammed in the stacker perhaps??? CD too scratched
i looked in manual and it said to remove something. Dont remember as i dont have it with me. But what to remove? Everything is integrated. CDs are all in good condition.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob san
mine happened sudenly. basically some bolt came loose near the engine pulley. cracking and dislodging the pulley. and i think the effects adversely affected the engine or at least the lower block.
they said the changed a whole new engine in but i dont beleive them simply coz it sounds like my 8 year old corolla. it feels rougher than usual. more sharp whiney noise when u are off the throttle after a little acceleration(i.e blipping the throttle). all this together with window problems, cam belt knocking noises, ticking noises somewhere in the cabin, misalligned plastics which i dont think should happen on a new car. especially one below 3000k's on the clock.
with the comment by someone who said we expect too much from a car. i think its justified because it is one of the reasons why we chose to buy a honda in the first place....and buying a 'brand new' one instead of second hand.
while i dont expect it to last as long as the corolla which i still have which has been problem free even until the smallest parts like light bulbs and battery havent been replaced....at least 3-5 years problem free for the honda is good enough as with all new cars should be anyway.
btw, the new problem ive 'over'heard while being a too frequent guest at the service centre is that the air conditioning on thai built jazz'es are malfunctioning. which is not functioning at all.
thai built jazz malfunctioning.. its hard not to be bias about things being built by thai's.. just to save a few grand.. we get a car that malfunctions.. -_-".. we have had a jazz since 02.. when they first came out.. and its never skipped a beat...
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Originally Posted by warwick108
02 i presume is the jap jazz.
anyway i just wish to clarify its the newer jazzes. 2 cases from friends which happen to be 2 year old. may be thai jazzes
Hi guys, bumping an old thread to the top here.
The thing that strikes me as the most 'wrong' about some of your statements is that you're generalising civics saying that ALL 8th gen's are of an infeiror build quality.
You're all wrong - Nobody's going to come on this thread, or even this forum and complain about how wonderful their cars are... aren't they.
All you'll ever hear from this forum are cries for help threads, 'what mod should i do' thread or a thread full of pictures.
I have FD1. Had absolutely no problems with it. It is, in a way, the perfect car for what was spent on it.
i m sorry but if they said "im looking too hard for imperfections", i would $%^*&*( them upside down. its the company fault and yet still tell me wat to do?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexythang
i would not accept the engine rebuilt in the first place. change a new car. i would notify my finance company and get them involve. the car doesnt perform as it is supposed to be (it is unfit for its purpose), one has the right to exchange it.
well.... the dealership has to make sure it has the right people working in there.... rite???? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by blk_shadow
if i had a company, all my staff is also representing the company......
a boss cant say its not my fault, its my staff fault....... :wave::wave::wave:
remember, i serviced my honda in a car dealer and they didnt change my engine oil as well as the oil filter yet i still paid for it........... :zip::zip:
Heya,Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
How did you know they didn't change it?
I had one service there they didn't even put the coolant resevoir cap back on, it just sat on top of the container. luckily it was a cool day and I popped the hood to have a look as soon as I got home! I filled in the customer feedback card that you get with every service but f*** all was done about it. fkn useless feedback in my opinion. They just like to read what they wanna read to boost their KPIs
Umm please ban me?
Yes my forum name is usually j-2007 and yes I have received an email saying someone replied to this threat but I don't remember ever starting this post!
Hell I don't even own a Honda!
You said that you're researching it for a friend on ur OP.
when the rattles start = the stereo get louder.
problem solved.
i hate rattles. hate. but when you dump/rim/low pro tires/rip plastic out they are bound to come :(
and having a hybrid engine = i hope to ****ing jesus nothing blows up. hope the dealership hold up their warranty if something does..
i can here a very small squishy sound near the drivers door..kinda anoying..its like plastic rubbing to each other...
i always change my own oil and the filter at the 5000km interval. after taking to the dealer for service, as usual, i change the oil and filter after the car has done 5000km.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirdistik
i found the engine was harsher or rougher than normal. when i drain the oil, the engine oil definitely has done more than 5000km.... lets say i was wrong, when i look at my oil filter, it was still the old aftermarket oil filter instead of the honda one...... in the service book, oil and its filter have been replaced....
this is what im worried about on my 1st change oil...i will put some marks to the filter so i would know that they replaced itQuote:
when i look at my oil filter, it was still the old aftermarket oil filter instead of the honda one...... in the service book, oil and its filter have been replaced....
i went into ultratune for servicing one time.. still under warranty and ask if they could replace my oil filter with an aftermarket oil filter (hamp) if i provided it and they go they wont do it.. only replacing it with geniune oem parts only
if oil filter is aftermarket, they may not replace it??
i have a rattle in my dash that sounds like a 10 cent piece in an empty coke can.
RAD!!!!!!!
Ultratune won't void your warranty for you :)
Hi, did you end up with a resolution on this? Our FD civic is loosing fluid as well, but not onto the ground. I can only assum it is leaking into the rack.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozR18
This was a known issue.
My parents had their steering rack replaced under warranty.
faking sunvisor just blew open
Ok, so steering rack loosing fluid. What about problems with the meta; black trim turning white? I got the usual excuse "it is the detergent" you are using. So what about the rest of the car, why isn't it turning white then?
Does anyone think I will have much recourse with Honda for the steering rack /fluid issue and metal trim turning white? Are these well known and documented issues for anyone else?
Hey fellas, these problems arent caused because the cars ar built in thailand, they are present because honda CHOOSES to sign off designs that save money and increase profits, this can result in substandard quality. Look at toyota and their issues of late.
My accord has some cheap,nasty plastics on the interior, not cause its thai built, but its designed for americans who dont know any better, and honda want to maximise profits.
Honda can go some way to address these issues by rectifying them at an aftersales level to a satisfactory standard, but unfortunately not all dealers are willing, nor are honda aus willing to pay for the warranty work.
This will cost them dearly.
18 Months old 37800K and not a problem third Honda owned and no problems and no mods!!
I have a FD2 Sport (2009), no problems, everything is perfect with 42k on the clock.
my stock fd 1.8 except 18" wheels and ice reaches her 90t kms service
at 70tkms i replaced the left rear passenger side hub bearing
and rear pads
at 80tkms resurfaced the front disc
drain and fill atf and psf at 70tkms
at 90tkms service they say i have a little
bit of leak on my power steering pump but
i always check the reservoir and no noticeable
fluid level change..
28,900KM on my odometer as of today. I've had two problems in the last four years of ownership from new, all which were fixed under warranty.
1. My boot seal ripped in one corner because the hinge arms were rubbing against the edge of the seal. This was fixed by the dealer and boot arms adjusted. I then did a mod and shaved the plastic arm cover with a file and associated tools. No problems since then.
2. My drivers door vapour seal came apart. What would happen was water would flow inside the car after I'd wash it and wet the carpets. Got it fixed under warranty and problem free since.
Other things are little and not worth fixing, like some of my interior trim around the shifter column has flaked away and there is a creaking noise behind the middle dash. Little things I don't really think needs any attention.
Gotta say though... Honda warranty service has been fantastic every time.
^can you buy an extended warranty even your warranty expired a year ago?
112000KM still no problems whatsoever!!!
noQuote:
Originally Posted by fitme
5char
went to snowy mountain 2 weeks ago (day return trip), checked oil, tyre pressure 35psi, all tyres are in good condition before we left, then after a few days my left rear passenger tyre is making a noise, i check it and it worn out faster than my 3 tyres and it has a cupping.
tyre cupping is from having a bad bearing or shock or other worn out suspension part, im suspecting the toe alignment is not within spec because i havent done any alignment sinced day 1and the..hub bearing was replaced 4months ago
where do you guys do your wheel alignment?
Anywhere that fits tyres should do wheel alignment.
Last time that happened to me... I didn't have a cupping but a bolt in my tyre. Full freaked out and thought wheel bearing and took it in to see Honda. They showed me a bolt was in my tyre. Embarassment much.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitme
maybe my rear struts is wornout..car is 90t kms old..Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo1210