just curious what brand also?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
hmmmm a bit strange finding it lag though.
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just curious what brand also?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
hmmmm a bit strange finding it lag though.
this one.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HPS-S...mZ220288601680
yeah i know i thought normally u get this problem with CAI not SRI.. maybe they messed up something with installation
Will give you better flow and mid/high end torque, and the headers should give you low/mid range.Quote:
Originally Posted by bentusi123
No you don't need to tune, the Euro ECU will relearn the better airflow.
could it be your filter your using? which reduces air flow?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
its the same filter in the photo why would that reduce air flow?!?
different companies have different filter materials which can cause restriction to air flow.
Sorry i couldnt load it cause i am capped. But hence why K&N have the best filters.
Have you also tried taking the negative terminal off before you put the mods on the car?
Then take the car out drive hard for 10mins <-- if the car is warm already.
na i havent tried that but its been installed for a while now so i assumed the ECU would of relearned it already.. I might change the filter to a K&N one, it would fit yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
Yeh just find out how big the I.D (inner diameter) is on the flange and make sure your O.D (outer diameter) of the filter itself doesn't clash with the bonnet and you should be good.
ok cool thanks mate, so can anyone else shed some knowledge on this *looks at aarong wherever he is*
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nope i just had stock air thingo then i bought SRI off net and got it installed, and now i feel like it has a loss of response in the lower revs.. like if i WOT there is like a lag before it gets up :S i'll try get a video, it might be cause i have an auto/semiauto
wow u guys just spent a whole page discussing intake! :p
Aaronng, let me know how your headers are going once u install...cheers ;)
Yeh another thing is you might be feeling the delay in the DBW!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
hahah but it sounds strange to know that his intake seems laggy unless it is due to the course that it is automatic and delay in DBWQuote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
Not a fan of those type of "dual inlet" pod filters. Lots of turbulence. Also, check the fittings on the SRI pipe because a leak could cause the vacuum to be slightly different and cause the MAP to give an inaccurate reading. Finally, exposed pods suck in hot air, which cause you to lose power. Happened to me when I first put on my intake without an air box around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
Bad luck, I just woke up because I was exhausted from yesterday's work. As a result, I don't have access to the usual place to install the headers. My underground carpark is grimy and filthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
NOoooooooooooooo! :( ...no worries Aaron, but let us know the result. Fingers x for ur and our sake that the sound is ammendable.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I just hope the slight rattling sound is from the flex pipe or a leakage from the weld...guess thats the downfall of going for cheaper headers :p
I'll leave my car at the exhaust shop next wednesday so he can play around with the flexi and try spot the source of the sound. If a new catback would solve the sound, which i doubt, then fuji catback here i come! :)
dual inlet?? what do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
From the photo of the pod on the ebay side, there is filter material around the pod, and also at the end of the pod. So inside the pod itself, air sucked in from around the pod would collide with air coming in from the end of the pod, causing turbulence which is not good for air flow through a pipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
so what can i do ?? new filter? or new SRI?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Try changing the filter first. K&N is a good starting choice because it comes in many diameters. I just don't like the oil, hence the reason for me using Apexi.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
so with the SRI you have and the filter you have you dont experience that short range lag?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I have an enclosure around the pod, which helps since it gets cool air. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
What do you mean by lag? You don't mean loss of torque in low rpm? if it is lag, then it coul dbe the DBW.
LOL sorry i feel like the biggest noob in sydney whats a DBW?
As i said before i do not have that lag with my SRI as it does not have the dual inlet.
Where it is located in the base of the filter i have a plastic cap (brand name).
But as aaron has mentioned it is best to have it enclosed or semi enclosed as you do not have the hot temp from the K series engine sucked in and draining it's potential power output.
If you have a CAI piping feeding the SRI it's a good choice plus implementing a casing to it is even better.
DBW - Drive by wire
so dual inlet is reffering to the actual pod right? so if i replace that, i SHOULD be solving the problem.. and whatever that DBW is, yes when i talk about lag i mean lack of torque
might have to do aarongs ghetto box after HSC aswell LOL to stop the hot air
this would be considered a dual inlet right? http://www.autobarn.com.au/AB_images...1192581433.jpg
and this a single? http://www.nzperformance.co.nz/store...es/RU-2520.jpg
That's right. It might or might not solve the problem, depending if the cause is from the pod or from the DBW. So you have a 50/50 chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
yup as aaron has said.
It's hard to know where the problem is and also cause we don't really know how your car drives compared to ours.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10827
Here have a read of my test.
Good test reading it again.
i am so bummed i bought a K&N apollo intake ROFL!!!
UPDATE!
Bentusi123, I change the flex pipe today (again), this time to a larger flex pipe and the sounds pretty much disappeared! The response is pretty good down low. I would imagine it will improve over the next few weeks after the ecu adapts to the change.
Since u are in Sydney as well, there are a few good exhaust shops u can get the flexi replaced. I highly recommend the one i went to in northmead called Performance Exhaust. Great service and they do a superb job! :thumbsup: Let them know Wes recommended u so maybe they can do a better deal for u.
Get the flexi changed and u should be pretty happy ;)
How much was it ( im trying to get quotes atm) and what was the type and diameter of the new flex ( so i can ask for same) ??
cheers
Suntzu, im not sure the exact size. Most TSX members change it to the 2" by 6" double braided flexi. However, my exhaust guy changed my header outpipe to a larger diameter so its going to be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
For urself and Bentusi123, a 2" diameter would be the perfect fit. Length wise would be 6". Ask Aaronng as well cos he got his replaced last week as well.
In terms of price, i think it was broken down to about $110 supplied and fitted for the flexi.
I will see if i can get under the car to measure the length of the flexi...will get back to ya ;)
i may consider back to stock and buy a J'S racing header, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
ok, im going to one of the muffler guy near me on next week, and see if he have some idea for my problem.
cuz i dont want spend too much on modify, otherwise, i just goning for other new header than.
anyway, im going on next week, see what happened.
just hope u have the brand for ur pipe, so i just ask for the same one.
so, basicly, i just need change my pipe than and how took u for this job?
DBW is an electronically controlled throttle, this means that when you press the accelerator the ecu calculates how much to open the TB and then opens it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
Thats why there is a lag between the time you press and the time you actually start accelerating.
^ Bentusi123, I dont think there was a brand name for the flexi. I just measured the size and it was about 6" in length. If you want to find out, call Performance Exhaust at Northmead.
If the exhaust guy couldnt fix it today, i would probably gone with toda but just couldnt justify the money spent on an auto cl9 :(
my one is auto as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
i will try to find out, and have u have any cooling bandages around the header? someone told me i should have this on to block the hot air which made by the header.
BTW, does JDM Accord Euro R K-Series Intake Manifold (RBC) make a performance for auto euro?
Northmead....-_-! too far away man.
YES! RBC will increase 5-7kw atw on both manual and auto...Quote:
Originally Posted by bentusi123
(speaking from experience/research... but no guarantee lol)
thats a great news. and do i need adjust my computer if i change to RBC?Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
is it necessary to change the computer when change input and output part
?
nope... ECU will relearn the new intake manifold... to speed up the process you could take it to honda and get them to do an idle relearn procedure... or you can just drive it normally for a few days :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by bentusi123
are u guys talking about changing to the cl7 intake manifold?
How much are they and where to source? If the gains are that much wouldnt mind doing it myself :D
Want more response down low and torque!! mmmmmm :thumbsup:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53683Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
$425
hmmm its not too bad. If the gains are abt 5-8kw atw then not too bad...
is it a direct fit, any modifications required?
Im really tempted to get it installed along with the pulleys i have on order.
im consider this question as well.
i think we need ask EUR003act for it.
consider he has the experience.
^ yeah i know lol...Eur003ACT let us know if there are complications to fit and what needs to be done :)
If its a direct bolt on and no major modifications to fit then i'll purchase a set. Then i will be set. Was thinking abt fuji legalis r but nah...intake manifold then im done.
You two should go read his thread. All the info is in there. http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92924
thanx aaron!
im posting up pics of how to modify the RBC in my project thread tonight...
so check there guys
Just read on tsx forums about RBC on k24 engines. Apparently there isnt much gains because its mainly at higher rpms. If our manifold is the same as the tsx (RBB), then its better suited for daily driving because it yields more torque.Quote:
Originally Posted by bentusi123
to be honest, torque is the last thing i would want to lose!
....but i could be wrong
heres the link...http://tsxclub.com/forums/showthread...ntake+manifold
i know thats what they say in the states... but myself and euroaccord13 have the dyno's to prove you dont loose torque... i have more torque than suntzu and he has the jtune flash! RBC = WIN :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
yes but by Saturady and with your help I will have RBC + Jtune MwAAAUUUhAHA!
hahah yeh but u guys are different...u guys have heavily modded machines!
But will see how suntzu thinks of the install. Now maybe i should do jtune reflash once i start working full time next year! :)
Dyno proof > *
EURO03act:
how much for ur K20 head? and whats other parts is needed?
is it cost to much to do the process?
lol waaaaay too expensive...Quote:
Originally Posted by bentusi123
ill be posting approx prices on my project pages after ive got it all working lol
They are quoting me $185 to replace the Fles pipe with a 2.225 inch diameter double barided quality one.
Dunno if too dear. They seem to be pros tho so might get it done.
did ur flex pipe tear oredy suntzu?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
Nope. All good. But while im on the Mod-wagon and about to install and dyno the RBC. might as well kill off the hissing and get it done right.
:D i cant wait for ur RBC tell us how u doing ok :) maan i want to do the same as yours but no dosh at the moment and the dollars are killing at the moment :D im saving for my rims at the moment
It is a bit dear for the flex replacement but maybe its a top quality one. Who knows. I wouldnt mind spending the money as long it got rid of the sound that i was getting lol
Yeah cant wait to see the gains with the rbc. But now im thinking maybe jtune mild or other alternatives such as emanage..but that will have to wait till next year =)
Installed the header with the double braided 6" flex pipe. No more ringing sound. It sounds as quiet as stock. :thumbsup:
did they reweld it with the header on or off? i think i recall you took it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
plus do you know if they can change it while it's still on the car?
as i was thinking about changing mine incase it crax!
Just put in order for these Headers looking to get the flex done before it goes on.
Should be good,
When the flex pipe goes, does the car sound like it has a massive exhaust with a leaf blower inside of it???
Mine sounded like a farting sound. Very obvious when driving off from the ticket booth in a car park.Quote:
Originally Posted by npcan2
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!Quote:
Mine sounded like a farting sound. Very obvious when driving off from the ticket booth in a car park.
I was sitting at the lights next to a Holden Barina and was like "that Barina has a big exhaust!", and then I took off from the lights and was very shocked at the sound of my car... It's so loud and Droney... I do get a cool backfire noise though.