4-2-1 headers, what brand is good at reasonable price??

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Originally Posted by andiiso

but in saying the "right 4-2-1" i gone blank, what is the "right" one and what is the "wrong" one ... so far ive read up, xforce is bang for buck, toda is awesome and mugen spoon are fairly decent, and according to my friend who drove the dc5, he had xforce headers spoon N1 exhaust system etc, he was going for full top end power, so xforce is top end bang for buck im guessin, but thats for dc5. so yerr .. if anyone got any opinions on which system combo etc would give me a good full rev range gain on a '95 ek4 (b16a2) please post opinions .. thx heaps once again

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Unfortunatly your freinds DC5 is not a good example to use as a comparison.
His cat back system is OK (SPOON) albeit a little loud.
However the X-Force header for the DC5 is not.
It is likey your freinds DC5 will make more power using the OEM header.

yer thought it may not be a good comparison, but he put on every spoon bolt on you can think of, like literally, he said so himself that he got everything he could for it (im talking about not caring about the money part of things, so didnt matter the price, he just got whatever spoon he could get) but couldnt fit the headers and had to use xforce because of the AUDM dc5 has the cat there or something along them lines, but he still got a good 150kw atw out of them parts.

but anyway back onto topic, still any opinions on a good gain full range system for ek4 ? and thanks Benson for the input, and also everyone else who has helped

if money ain't a thing for you....

If you wanna keep AC - Toda Headers, JDM cat or alternative, catback of your choice, most jap brand ones are similar.

If you don't run AC - Same as above but with Hytech/SMSP/BuddyClub Headers.

nah nah, money is a thing, its always a thing, but i was just using my friend as the example, btw, by installing the TODA 4-2-1 headers .. it takes out my A/C ??

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Originally Posted by andiiso

nah nah, money is a thing, its always a thing, but i was just using my friend as the example, btw, by installing the TODA 4-2-1 headers .. it takes out my A/C ??

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With Toda headers your keeping your A/C.

Buddy clubs and hyteck headers you will need to remove your A/c

oh oh, sorry about that i read wrong, my bad

look if you dont want to fork out for toda headers and you dont want xforce headers, then 5zigen ftw.

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Originally Posted by 0098

look if you dont want to fork out for toda headers and you dont want xforce headers, then 5zigen ftw.

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hey, just a question... you don't need to remove A/C for the 5zigen 4-2-1 right (b-series engine)?

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Originally Posted by arron

hey, just a question... you don't need to remove A/C for the 5zigen 4-2-1 right (b-series engine)?

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correct:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by TODA AU

Yes,
The only issue (small as it may be) will be that the headers will be 7mm lower than usual.
Every part will fit, no problem.

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Funny my toda headers bracket behind the sump didnt match up.....

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Originally Posted by dc2rrrr

Funny my toda headers bracket behind the sump didnt match up.....

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That was directly related to you & your hip pocket.
Scratch your head & try & remember...
Yeah, it's funny.

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When we supply the header & the cat, the rear bracket is not an issue.

Yeah funny. Prob not
What you want extra money to get a set of headers to fit 100%????
Scratch your head.....