well said chrisSX
well said chrisSX
Hey Pure NA,Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
Are you a DC2r owner? I'm just curious if you have a vested interest in DC2r prices.
I'e seen a few DC2Rs on the market at carsales, and like most people have said, ones asking around $15K are pretty ratty examples. There was one DC2R, however, that was described as mint (80,000 on the odo, washed every week/only driven on dry days). It was out at the sunny coast, the guy was asking $19,900. Three weeks later, no takers, still there and priced down to $17,900. It still hasn't sold and he has put "not selling for now" on the ad.
The $15-16K ITRs are still on sale at caresales, some of them have been there for many months.
BTW Pure NA, I'll be happy with either car regardless of which wheels are driven. Yes they are different to drive, theres no denying that, but both Tegs and s15 are great cars, so it's not an issue for me.
But price is not really the point of this thread. I'll worry about that in a few months when I have funds available and I'm ready to buy.
I'm really looking for reviews and comparisons between the DC2/5r/s15. I'm especially keen for things to look out for, (ie; worn rear trailing arm bushes on a DC2r etc...)
ROFL!!!!!!!, in terms of performance theres hardly any arguments. FR cars are better than FF layout in general. Adding to the insult (im kidding) a tuned S15 craps all over tuned DC5 and DC2...
...but then again this is a Honda forum and im not allowed to bag Honda's FF car coz i might get in trouble by one of the senior member(s) from this site.
OP was suggesting comparisions between the two cars other than just performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by EVLGTR
besides the dc5 is the best car in the world s15 has nothing on it :)
ahhh I had this choice 4 and a half years ago (Tossing up between S15, DC2R and DC5R), and I don't regret my decision of going for the DC2R.
At first, I wasn't going to mod my car - so I weighed it up, and stock for stock the DC2R is 10 times more fun to drive and own than a stock S15. DC5R, just wasn't a real type R.
The DC2R has been proven to be quicker or on par around Wakefield than S15's with twice as much power (from a Tomei powerplant), and the same suspension gear as I am running. It surely doesn't behave like a typical FWD, awesome engine, awesome following. DC2R is a part of history, S15 is a part of Bankstown. lol
lol yeh i own a dc2r. but my comments on the prices come from looking at the ones on carsales for about 6 months last year, and 1 month this year. i don't think im bias though, all the cars you said are imo amazing cars. i was just commenting on if you do decide you want a dc2r.
That's cool mate, don't get me wrong I love the DC2R and will definitely consider one.Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
DC2R is the best NA FWD car ever made. Despite it's age, it still hasn't been beaten for that title.
2 things that make me lean towards the DC5R though:
1. It's 2 litre engine is torquier, so it doesn't need to be wound out as much (to beat a V6 Commodore for example). For that reason, it'd be a better daily thatn the DC2R.
2. DC2R styling looks really early 90s and dated, especially the interior (despite the Recaros). It was already looking dated when the ITR came out in 1999. After all, the DC2 is a 1993 design.
Ahh EVLGTR, you are the king of the dubious post lol. As Burak said, I'm not after the fastest car (haven't you read my previous posts?). And I specifically said that before that I don't want this thread to be a FWD vs FWD pissing contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by burak213
DC5 rocks, but I wouldn't say it's the best car in the world. I'm assuming u r talking about the Type S Burak? Don't u have one of those? Actually there are a couple of Type Ss selling atm for <$24k. I might consider a Type S, they are nice and I like the facelift look. But realistically, they will be slightly out of my price range.
hehe was joking bout the best car in the world partQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikecivic78
but yes i got a type S the prices are going down slowly and i reakon you can haggle it down to 22k for a decent condition one.
i also looked at the s15. Didn't buy it cause of petrol, insurance and i was on green p's preventing me from driving turbo cars.
Well if you are looking into type S teggys
look for
cluster replacements
broken engine mounts
rear tail light water leakage,( lift up plastic cover in the boot to reveal space tyre make sure no rust in there)
and usual wear and tear items.
Thanks for the tips :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by burak213
I agree with you, s15s are noticebly thirstier than Type R tegs. Insurance wise, i think that they are similar. I haven't checked how much a Type S is though.
$22k for a Type S, I like it! Actually my mate just picked up a mint '07 CTR. Only 50,000kms on it w/ full service history. He paid $26,000. Bloody amazing! Book value for one of those is 29-31K. CTR ain't my cup of tea, but what a deal! Seller must be in financial stress.
by what you've said, go dc5r. they are amazing cars, plus after you've done the ol' i/h/e mods, much faster than a dc2r. i prefer the dc2r for personal reasons, fact is, k20 is a better engine with much more power potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikecivic78
Mikecivic78, as you probably know from some of my other posts, I used to own a s14a and now own a DC5R.
The 200sx was a great looking car and I personally didnt have any reliability issues except a flange (??) melting one time and loosing all my coolant and requiring an aftermarket part being put in place that could deal with higher heat levels. Took it to the track heaps and never had problems personally.
DC2/DC5
The best thing about the ITR's is that it being FF, I dont have to think as much driving it at its limits anymore - all its going to do is understeer. No surprises.
The missing part of the ITR's is that top end, if you want "punch" out of the car, its never going to be as much as a modified S15 with right mods (well within reason boys!)
S15 - Performance & the looks would have to be the best part of these vehicles. They are sexy!
Worst part - The modification "bug". As the other guys have pointed out, these cars respond really well to modification. Within no time after buying it, you'll have a front mount, electronic boost controller, ECU upgrade, bigger wheels & rubber, coilovers, and an empty wallet, but a big smile on your face!
I bought the DC5 to save money & to stop me pouring more and more 'coin into mods on the '200, and its going to keep working for me!
Both nice cars mate - can't go wrong with either.....