Hmm, yea so which is a better model the cxi or gli, assuming i cant find a vti for my price range? what mods have you done to bring yours up to spec steve88?
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Hmm, yea so which is a better model the cxi or gli, assuming i cant find a vti for my price range? what mods have you done to bring yours up to spec steve88?
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i Dont know if youve been listening to anyone here, or if youve had a look at the model list which as been posted twice, maby the vti-r is a little to expensive, but its really the only option if you want to keep your standard engine while still having a fast car.
The vti isnt a powerful engine, its non vtec its rated the same as a cxi (cheapest, less options), and gli (few extra options), at 88kw for the EK. The vti really only has a couple of extras on top of the gli.
Once again vti-r (different engine to the vti) is the only option for a fast car unless...
1. its unafordable and not an option
2. you have changed your mind, and are now happy to have a weak engine.
3. youve changed your mind and want to do an engine swap later
4. you wanna go turbo on the stock engine
We need to know what your after, you say you want the one with power but are choosing a model which lacks in that department, you realise this, but no longer mind, correct?
The cxi is the lowest model, gli is the step above. The gli has a passanger airbag, rear disk brakes, and was offered with both power windows and manual windows. (none of which come with the cxi)
The vti has power rearview mirrors (somthing no one really needs), and a sunroof if im correct.
If you want your car to be fast, but cant afford to get a vti-r, id do as i did, and go for the much cheaper gli or cxi, which are lighter, and save up to swap in a b18c ($5000-$7000?) which would shit on a vti-r and probably work out not too much more expensive.
if you care only for performance, and not options, the only real performance differences between the cxi and gli and vti for that matter, are the rear disk brakes. The cxi has drums instead (still tones of stopping power).
When i was in the exact same position as you, i chose a cxi because the average difference in cost between the cxi and gli, made it cheaper for me to get the cxi and do a rear brake swap, leaving me some cash to do some suspension mods.
If its between the cxi, gli, and vti, all it comes down to is what you want more, performance or nice features.
For example, you can get a vti with power windows, sunroof, rear disks.
Or for the same price, you could get a cxi, get some swaybars, lowering springs, and still have a little dosh leftover to put towards sport shocks or a rear disk conversion. (Its my opionion that the rear drums brakes on my cxi have all the stopping power you will need for the street, it brakes really hard, more than my parents commodore executive).
So as you can see it comes down to having extra money to increase the performance of a great car, or having power windows, power mirrors (how much time is spend adjusting the mirrors anyways???), a sunroof, passanger airbag, and the rear disk brakes.
hope this helps bud, i went the exact same thing ur goin through now, ony 1-2 years ago
Thanks thats given me some insight, i think ill go for the gli an just work on the suspension. I meen for a 4cylinder its a pretty good package in quality.
yeah it sure is! im as happy as larry with my cxi, the passanger airbag, rear disks and optional power windows would be a real treat!
afaik the cxi didn't have a tachometre or central locking?
Yeah, its got no tacho, but it didnt take long for me to realise how usless a tacho really is. Your manual tells you what the maximum safe speeds are for each gear. It i was driving to redline id shift at 50 in 1st, 90 in second and 135 or so in 3rd, no difference in looking at a tacho, and looking at your speedo. These days i barly look down at it as you seem to learn when to shift by the engine note, somthing that i believe happens quicker without having a tacho. Last thing you wanna be doing when you pushing to redline is looking down at a tacho/speedo.Quote:
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It dosnt have keyless entry, which is a bugger, but you get used to it. At least you dont have to reach over and unlock the passanger door for them:zip: , it happens automatically (im not sure if its called central locking with out keyless entry:confused: )
You are talking about central locking. Keyless entry is pretty easy to install after the fact though.Quote:
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This has all been discussed before, so lets more focus on engine details/requirements for this individual.
actually easily solved, buy a tachometre and stick it on your dash (impress ladies, fancy dials yo) ... and the central locking mechanism is actually present in CXi's, its just missing the wiring (someone here on ozhonda found that out, do a search)Quote:
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i havent really modded my ek mechanically except a 2.5" catback exhaust system, its stock d16 nonvtec sohc, came with 17" chromes that i have scratched while i learnt this car on my Ls (dont really care, they're pretty ugly)... i figured id save $5000~ and decide too sell it and get a VTi-R equivilant or drop a B18 in it :)
honestly id just save and get a VTi-R, a good condition GLi and decent VTi-R have about $3k difference
engines?
CXi/GLi = same 77kw ~ atw
VTi = about an extra 10kw atw if you're lucky, mind you the SOHC VTi is aimed for economy not performance
VTi-R = B16's basically, 100, 110kw atw if you're lucky
honestly for a first car i suppose GLi is fine, i still get my kicks launching it in first few gears. but i have driven my brothers VTi coupe and know the difference, and cant wait too drive a VTi-R :p
When you say central locking, are you talking about how the other doors unlock when you unlock the drivers door? If so my cxi already does that, im confused to what you mean. Your not talking about remote keyless entry obviously?????:confused:
Im perfectly happy without a tacho, and dont believe im disadvantaged in any way. I actually only just recently sold a new tacho i had laying around to teddychan of these forums, cus i feel i have absolutly no use for it lol.
odd! i was told central locking wasn't apart of cxi's stock! its something you have too buy.. my bad
lol, maby the previous owner got it installed and forgot to tell me..