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im only gunna be running 10psi max for starters so i'll keep the stock MAP sensor. A question on the downpipes on ebay for the D16 civics, are they really bad quality stuff or would it be sufficient for my build? Would i be better off getting one made..
they may be a hit or miss, you never know until you fit the product/item. try it & if it doesnt happen, just get one made up...
tbh i think you should just get your local exhaust shop to set that up...will cost 50-100 more but it will come with warranty and it wont break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiztec
has anyone ran 12:1 cr d16s with stock ecu??
ive got this setup atm and im nearly ready to run but i need to find out if the stock ecu will b ok
wtf?.Quote:
Originally Posted by a-man
I think that's why no one has answered him... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by fat_85_civic
""nearly ready to run"" to the junk yard
i heard your stock ecu is better then hondata dude so go for it. just buy another engine when your start your current engineQuote:
Originally Posted by A-man
It should be fine to start it up and let it idle, I wouldnt go driving it around though
i bought the engine already in the car as an unfinished project
the car has a built bottom end and stock head etc.
its got 12:1 ycp pistons in it
i need to run the car in
however i dont have any aftermarket management so what im asking is before i go driving around i wanted to see what others have done. if they have been in this situation before
ok, stock ecu only works well with stock or near stock compression. your like 2 nearly 3 points up in compression, the stock ecu just aint going to cut it. Proper engine management & tuning is crucial for such a high compression setup.
Also, another thing dont thread jack mate, if you want a question to be answered, which isnt even turbo/FI related, start your own thread...
i couldnt find anything relevent in the all motor section plus alot of what i was reading in there seemed to be bs
i didnt mean to jack
thanks for the help
if i were you i'd go hondata, u don't know how the stock ECU is gonna react so best to get it tuned for the motor.
ive got crome ill just chip another ecu
i've got a Y1 head ... but i needa check if its in working order ...
let me know if ur interested ...
What size intercoolers fit behind the EK Front bar without modifactions?
ANY>>?
PM LimboQuote:
Originally Posted by Jiztec
He should know as he got one
i can't rem how big my core is, will measure it when i get a chance to take the front bar out.
You want at least 60mm thickness with 2.5" inlet & outlet
okay thanks..im looking at one going for $100 measures 450X300X76... should be fine yeh.?
Bump!?
650x450x75 intercooler is the largest u can fit
okay thanks limbo (Y)
another question for you guys also.. i've sourced an OBD2 - OBD1 conversion harness, so all i need now for the ecu is the Chipped P28. Now with that (planning on going through XENOCRON) do i go the chipped p28 with basemap and tune it with chrome, or do i go the chipped P28 with basemap and buy the hondata S100 and run that (http://www.xenocron.com/s100-p-257.html) or do i pay like an extra $500 or so and get the hondata S300 boost tuning package (http://www.xenocron.com/hondata-s300...age-p-285.html)
any advice will be taken on board.
Want D16 engine loom running with a stinger ecu and tune for bolt on kit i am selling my setup :)
Jiztec, just as an option have you thought of buying this?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116112
Ek Turbo D series Sedan for $6000.
just a thought that might have you time, money and hassles.
hey thanks FastFwd i saw that the other day and thought about it but i like the look of my car better and i want to be able to say that i built my own car... and this way im learning a hell of a lot of info... If i had seen that before i got my car now i would have definately jumped at it.
Lookingforboost - ahk how much you looking at selling it for and how do i go about running it on my setup? PM me ;D
What setup have you got atm? and you just need to plug it in ist the whole eninge harness :)
PM me dude
BUMP! Much difference running Hondata S100 compared to S300 for my setup?
Massive diffQuote:
Originally Posted by Jiztec
I'm running S100B no USB no data logging no quick map swap and so on.
But they turn exactly the same so if your on a tight budget like me its fine
If you can afford it go the S300
okay thanks im thinking i might save a little extra and go with the S300 (Y)
Just go with the S100 bud...
yeah stay away from chrome, no support as most tuners do not use it.
Hondata s300 is the go if you have the $$$$
Otherwise only other one i would recommend is PFC
someone in australia should consider tuning with crome, ectune, uberdata, turboedit, etc...
i run crome on my b18
and its great bang for buck i have 4 cars and 2 of which need management for various reasons soon to b 3 of them and ill be using crome with them all...
only problems i have had has been from a dodgey datalogger which was replaced no questions asked from moates
its not always about labels and brands... the software works and its a good option same with the other avalible ecus, neptune etc.
Does crome get easier to use once you get used to it?
if your new to tuning, then i'd recommend not to go chrome. It runs everything fine, pretty much like most ECU systems, but you'll need to get the datalogger stuff to tune it and not many tuners will tune it.
End of the day if your new to stuff you don't want something that is gonna give you a headache trying to tune. It will not save you more money
i disagree if ur prepared to read and try what your doing...
i learnt alot from crome and me and a friend tuned my car (street tune) on crome
the surport is there from the us guys and besides setting up the datalogger ive had no problems what so ever...
i dont agree with people when they say aw just get a powerfc or just get a motec etc. because alot of people (namely me) dont have the money to spend on motec or in my case power fc isnt avalible for my engine.
for value for money its cheap and is as user friendly as say the new wolf system.
alot of people in the west only like to tune with v/afc, pfc, etc. and if u ask for a unknown ecu. they turn and dont wana know. its not that scary
this goes for ALL management like neptune etc.
and the us guys are using it so what makes them different to u... there not better, there not smarter, there no different to us....
But what Limbo is saying is that most tuners wont tune it or want to know and my become a headache not at all dising the ecu
As most ppl cant road tune there car by them selfs then it may become a problem trying to get a tuner to get them to tune it as they would rather use what they are familar with and dont want to experiment and have a customers car blow up as this would reflect on the tuner and at the end of the day word of mouth can really hurt a tuners business, but i completely understand your point :)
yeh i understand both points
and i hate that track of people keeping mainstream... but i guess its just the way of the world...
its also a shame i see it all the time where im forced for example to give an unfinished car back to a person when i work 24hrs on a weekend after i do an engine swap and im not happy because people dont realise whats involved
if someone like myself is happy to work through it with a tuner and see the probs first hand and understand u dont mind helping out. its when u get some guy who just throws money at a problem to fix it and doesnt understand, is when u need to be mainstream i see both storys and ive been on both sides
Plus Hondata S100 is only like $350 when you supply the ECU
Why would you bother with anything else
Because a chipped OBD1 ecu is like $250, ecu, chip & 2 basemaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukezen27
Here's my theory. Global economy has hit an all time low. crome (not chrome) is a free tuning program. If tuners would aim more at lower budget customers, they would get more business.
I know alot of us tuners use crome. Not 1 tuner (correct me if wrong) in australia have i heard tunes with crome. Neptune, yeah but only neptune RTP...
A perfect example would be me. Since no one tunes crome, DIY tuning cost too much, im forced to use an AFC cause its cheap. If i knew a crome tuner in QLD, i would deff scrap the AFC & use a chipped OBD1 ecu...
exactly im trying to get one of the local shops here to do it and hes quite keen.. we have 2 cars that i know of with crome and im lookin at running the 2nd possibly 3 ecus off it
both good points i reckon :) but if things will ever change is a different story :(
the only people who can change it is the demand...
and to get more demand we need to c modifiers/enthusiats (like ourselves) surport the products instead burn them like ebay knock offs...
Just rem that end of the day, Crome, Neptune & hondata all use a factory ECU and adjust its maps.
Hondata has alot more tuner support & the tuners can sell it, that's wat it comes down to.
But for this thread with a person who is new to all this, it is not cheaper to go down the less trodden path.
If you have a better understanding of cars, and have access to someone who can tune or help with it, you'd most likely have taken their advice rather than some internet mechanic.
I've had quite a few tuned cars, and they can be real headaches when you cannot get them working properly. I even ended up selling one cos the ECU tune on it was so crap i hated the car. SOmeone else brought it off me and got it retuned, and had no issues with it at all. My loss. I've seen this happen alot of times. (my age is now showing ;p)
If you new to the scene, get what you want built and run a common ECU that you can readily get support. More enjoyment for you.
A-man - i don't dis the ECU, but you have someone to help you with support. Most average guys out there don't have your connections so its not so easy for them. Each to their own.
yeh and everyone is different.
im not phased what anyone says about diff ecus because there is always going to be a hater. and its not my product so i dont really care but it works for me and im now seeing the benefits of keeping at it.
i think its a little diff being in WA then u guys but we are really backwards considering.
most tuners around my area, first thing pull out the ecu and do a full after market setup but each to there own.
i picked my ecu even though there wasnt many tuners here that used it or sold it but it dose everything i want it to do :)