Those rims look like the optional rims on the Honda City...Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
Still not a fun of the rear but front of the SI isnt bad.
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Those rims look like the optional rims on the Honda City...Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
Still not a fun of the rear but front of the SI isnt bad.
In my opinion, the styling has become more conservative with the latest model Civic and other bad points are:
- no K20 engine for the sport model (carry over from previous Australian delivered sport model)
- No K24 engine / 6 speed manual (as per USDM Sport model)
- no 6 speed manual transmission throughout range (and no manual transmission in Sport)
for those of you who are interested in new 2.0 engine (not too badly equipped for the price point i think)
I thought I will share this link about Honda R20 engine
http://asia.vtec.net/hardcore/8GAccord20/index.html
The article talks about the R20 engine available in overseas 8G accord and compares it against K20 engine
quite interesting.
Small loss of low end power and high end, with gain in mid range and fuel economy. I think its a good trade off, what do u guys think?
Its been in the US for some time now as i saw this face on the Civic 18 months ago in Hawaii. I quite like it
the rear tail light looks like camry
Not possible. It went on sale in the US in April 2011, so it's only been out there for 11+ months.Quote:
Originally Posted by ido09s
no more 4 door typer fan boy noww.. it just rebadge camry with new design taillight and wing
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Picked up new VTI-L, very impressed so far. It has the Honda quality feel; solid, reliable (feels like it will go for ever), safe, good handling, smooth and well engineered. Stereo sounds great and really like iPod connectivity. It will comfortably sit four people. The drive line is well proven and is up to the task of commuting and highway duties. It's a great overall package.
Couldn't get Bluetooth to work correctly with Sony Andriod phone. Kept trying to reconnect. I was told it's my phone is the problem. Will have to look further into this.
I looked up the price of an EG GLI, its price 18 years ago is nearly the same price of the new VTI-L. New cars are great value these days.
Sat in one today in the dealership, didn't get a chance to drive it though.
Interior build quality did feel really nice though, far less grey and plasticy compared to the 8th gen.
Impressed so far, just disappointed at the bodywork resembling a camry
Yes it was about $27,500 in the mid-90s, plus another $2,000 or so if you wanted the optional air conditioning. But remember that import duty was 30% 18 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
really fugly! hate the look!
This might have been asked before but does the US 4-door Civic Si grill fit our Civics here? The shape looks the same. I know the coupe grill is completely different.
The black honeycomb ones look a lot better than the chrome one we get.
Also, what is the model is now called?
It actually does not look much different to the 8th Gen even the inside is very similar, like I said before I only hope its rides better than the 8th.
drove mine to margaret river and back from Perth last weekend, 5.4L/100km, average probably 95km/h. so that was 800km from 43.5L... must have still had about 100km it could have run before fully dry.
However I'd already driven about 20km past when it said 0km remaining :P
that is impressive.....
hey UNLS1 i saw a vti-l with leather today and it looks pretty legit.. so is leather a factory option or is it some dealer third party thing?
tested this new civic (my friend's VTI-L),
interior : no significant improvement
exterior: disappointed, similiar like honda city
handling: no significant improvement
price : good (vtil-L auto : 27K)
overall : totally agree with US critics
"With the latest Civic, Honda has gambled that moving away from sportiness and towards quiet comfort will suit its buyers. Honda hasn’t hedged its bets into the boring realm of the Toyota Corolla, but it’s certainly an unadventurous effort. Aside from being quieter and more efficient, the new Civic doesn’t represent improvement as we define it. The Civic lacks the passion, soul, and entertaining driving dynamics of its predecessor. Mainstream buyers may not care, but enthusiasts surely will." - Car and Driver
why this mazda user stuck in this forum?lol.. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by denot
how r u mate ?:wave:
VTi-L - FB2
sport - FB3
Hybrid - FB4
http://performancedrive.com.au/2012-...-sport-review/
Anyone agree with the review?
Yo DMX! Long time no see mate! Did they lift the ban? :p lol jkzQuote:
Originally Posted by dmx
It says there are no reverse sensors but that's incorrect. It is an optional extra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
I wouldn't agree with the statement ... "Not as much kit as other competitors" ... and then at the bottom of the page they make this statement about the Mazda 3 ... "the Mazda3 amazes with the amount of optional kit available and tiers of equipment"
A bloke I work with has just bought a brand new Mazda 3 ... I checked it out the other day, everything about it has a very cheap and nasty feel to it ... it's nowhere near the quality of the new Civic, not even in the same league in my opinion.
No Xenon Headlamps, thats disappointing on a brand new car, mind you, havent checked if the Mazda or Toyota come with them either.. I am looking to buy the prvious generation Sport soon, but don't know if I would stretch to a second hand one of these in a few years, just can't see anything that really justifies it.
hid's are an easy diy.. no biggie
DIY HID are never legal unless you have the washers etc, but retrofitting in Aus is illegal I am sure
Charming, but it would gain far more respect if youprovided links to the RTA sites to prove your reply
Totally
mazda dont have HID, only MPS does.
Top of range corolla does.
lets wait and see what we get from thailand spec civic...
While there are still abundant optional extras on the new civics, most of these can be found as standard on Korean cars... Thai vs Korea? Which one has better quality?
It's offered as an option on mazda3 skyactiv2.0, add about 3k to sticker price. Think it also includes GPS and leather.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
After reading the article, it makes me wonder... if I switch to "Econ" while on "S" mode, which one will work? Or I cant do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
I found that the Econ mode is rendered useless, you get the sharper throttle and autobox response of Sport modeQuote:
Originally Posted by denot
wait econ gives u sharper throttle response? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
Learn2readQuote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
my bad.
no need for ur attitude, not everyone's as clever as you
Hey guys new to the forum. just bought a honda civic vti-l 2012 manual. paid $22 000 no extras just full tank of fuel in sydney. Just though ill post what i paid for others looking to buy.
the more i look at it the more it grows on me
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Originally Posted by Glocker
You get those on which mode? Didnt you mean "on Sport mode"? no wonder curtis265 is confused :pQuote:
I found that the Econ mode is rendered useless, you get the sharper throttle and autobox response of Sport mode
lol point concided. still friends? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
you gotta read my post which contained the original quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by denot
Guys is $24.5k for VTI-L auto with full tank, floor mats and mud flaps... is that a good price??
Also why is the reviewer I read gave it 3/5 ratings? anything bad about it? it sure looks good to me!
Price sounds good to me. Secondhand 7th Gen VTI-L Auto with low Kms are a bit less.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuling
I wouldn't worry about what reviewers say. If you like it buy it. Picked up a new VTI-L auto recently. Very happy with the purchase. It's a very nice car to drive.
how much did you pay for it? and what extras?
In general I'd agree with what it says in regards to how it drives and handles, going buy VTI-L experience. It's probably one the most accurate articles I read so far compared to general media. Most articles are brief and seems the reviewer hasn't spent much time with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
I wouldn't class suspension as hard, it handles well with adequate comfort. You can drive the car knowing it will cruise well at high speed and corner with confidence.
Around town I haven't noticed much difference with the Eco button on. On the highway with cruise it's best to turn it Off. When On the car is slow to react to accelerating up hills, Off no problem. Up hills the car holds 110km.
Most people who sit in side for the first time are impressed by the space age dash.
The seats are very comfortable and there's good space for sitting four people.
Can't really comment on the VTi-L price as I bought the Sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuling
But as a yard-stick I got my Sport for $30k driveaway in Dyno Blue, genuine mats, front and rear mud-spats and the extra 2 years genuine Honda warranty ... ended up being over $3k in savings off list price with the extras .. thought I did OK, I was pleased with the deal.
As for reviewers giving 3/5 or whatever .. personally I take any of these reviews with a pinch of salt, particularly ones like the Performance Drive one mentioned in an earlier post, any review that quotes the Mazda 3 as "offers a lot more kit" compared to the Civic obviously has some sort of bias toward the Mazda product for whatever reason ? ... or just hasn't spent much time in the Civic ?
When I looked around I found the Civic to be far superior overall to anything else available at this price point (particularly the Mazda 3)... and no, I'm not a Honda fanboy, in fact this is the first Honda Iv'e ever owned.
Have u tested the mazda and compared the standard equipment?
Didn’t look at Mazda. Honda family, third Civic, always been happy with brand. I hear once people buy Honda they generally buy them again. As the Civic is based on older generation platform and mechanicals it gives confidence it will last well into the future and be reliable. 7th Gen has proven to be a great car.Quote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
Considered Golf, didn't drive. Just sat in and looked at specs. Golf would of been mid 30's. Then there's question mark over servicing costs and reliability of DSG. VWs technology wise seem ahead.
Tested BMW F20 118i auto. Slight lag down low and great handler. Back seats not enough room. Mid 50's by time options are added. Value wise Civic stands up very well to BMW. Civic for every day use stands up very well performance and handling wise.
Er... Oh okay... :( I've got 7 gen, 8 gen and Euro but now driving CX9... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
Anyway, for 30k, i prefer a CU2. The only good things on Sports that I see improved from the 8th gen is the leather. The one on 9th looks more expensive and lux
I had a look at the mazdas, they have 5 models with different trim levels with optional extras like Bose sound system xenon lights, leather seats and GPS navigation. Oh and a 2.3L turbo engine if you are so inclined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robjh
Hope a Type R would join the line up soon :(
Nice deal you got on the sport by the way! Loved the dyno blue.
don't know if its been said, but the taillights are from the toyota camry 2002-2004 :LL
and i'm guessing they will just release a `refreshed, updated' civic in 2013-14 by altering the taillight pattern, going from red white red, to white red white just like the 04-06 camrys!
I would try for $23 000. walk out a couple times show them you dont care if u buy a mazda 3 or holden cruze go to all the honda dealerships do the same thing. I paid $22 000 for a manual vti-l and full tank no extras, add another thousand for auto, floor matts are less then $200 for realy good ones and mud flaps from china $40 delivered on ebay all you need is a battery drill to install im sure theres a how to install guide up on the net. With the extras i wouldnt pay more then $23 500. If your gona pay $24 500 give me the difference ill haggle with them if your in sydney.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuling
punctuation mun! That's hard to read!Quote:
Originally Posted by aleksstoj
u must be a hardcore haggler!
Automatic cost $2000 more so its going to be at least $24000?? No way they will sell for $23k!Quote:
Originally Posted by aleksstoj
doesnt look half bad with modulo kit on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3S8eOt8d0
i think the rear spoiler wing just ruins it.. too tacky
Hi, guys I recently bought a Honda Civic 2012 VTI-L auto model... to my surprise it didn't come with rear parking sensors and was told to add them it will cost me $780!! to me that's ridiculously high price!
I am new to the car market, so I am not sure if the one Honda uses is any superior to the one after-market people use (is it?)...Any recommendation on where to get a reliable rear parking sensors done that is cheaper (I need it to be installed aswell)? Is there any risk in getting in done with someone else beside Honda?
Will it void any warranty with Honda?
After market will be fine. It will not void warranty. Try calling a store selling car stereos, they might be able to suggest a place.Quote:
Originally Posted by yuling
Also try talking to your Honda Dealer see if they can do a better price. Ask the Dealer what brand they use. Have a chat to Honda Service Department as well, they might be able to guide you.
Rear Parking sensors are quite handy. It's not the best car for rear visibility when reversing.
Cant wait for the Mugen kit!Quote:
Originally Posted by chunky
^is there going to be one??
should beQuote:
Originally Posted by chunky
Looking at buying a 2012 Civic. For those of you that have bought one with the reverse park assist - are the reverse sensors integrated with the i-MID display ? or do they just beep ?
They just beep
Hmm. That's a bit disappointing... Looked at an online Civic manual, and it shows the reverse sensors are supposed to be integrated with the i-MID (showing which sensor is going off and the distance) - wonder if the dealers are cheaping out and installing some 3rd party system, and not the genuine Honda rear park assist kit
are you talking about a reverse camera?
No, not a reverse camera. In the 2012 Civic owners manual, it shows that when you have the reverse sensor kit, it displays on the info screen, which sensors are being triggered and indication of distance
some dealers are being cheap.. i guess we need to ask for "genuine parking sensors" lol
My dealer was going to throw them in the deal when I bought my Sport .. I politely declined the offer, the thought of the workshop Apprentice attacking my brand new bumper armed with a hole saw drill didn't exactly do much for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by ryaan
I have reverse sensors fitted by Honda, part of options new. Nothing comes up on display, there's a beep when moving to reverse indicating its engaged. Works fine.
I've read about 3rd of manual. I wouldn't say it specifically tailored to Australian model. Still does a good job of explaining.
The manual says the ECON button " helps improve your fuel economy by adjusting the performance of the engine, transmission, heating and cooling system / climate control system and cruise control ".
I've read a few reviews mentioning Sport has nice power over VTi-L. The VTi-L at 40km/h feels like it's hardly moving. Around town the car needs to be pussied as it feels it wants to go harder.
The Sport only has a one type CD player where as the earlier model had the six deck unit is this progress?
8th Gen civic scored safety rating 4
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Originally Posted by euromax
If the rear park sensors comes from factory fitted like accord euro lux then it will beep and shows in MID. however even if put geniine rear park assist as a genuine honda accessory it just beep and it wont come in MID. I got genuiine honda rear park assist with my accord euro cu2 My10 it just beep and doesnt shows in MID.
Honda dealers use after market rear sensors too which is bit cheaper but it comes with a black seperate small box usually they stick on top of the rear view mirror which shows in green LED the distance and beep.
hope this helps..
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Originally Posted by gooseberry
When you asked for reverse sensor, you should state is it the OEM honda or aftermarket. when I bought the FD2 ages ago, they just put down "Reverse sensor" but I asked them "I want the OEM one" and they put "Reverse sensor (OEM)".
wow.. dem stealershipsQuote:
Originally Posted by denot
Interesting point on OEM sensors. I wouldn't have known at the time what the difference was and known to ask. I wonder if there is OEM available on Japan models. It may change when production comes from Thailand.
It's interesting as you reflect back on how cars have progressed. Years ago there's was nothing in terms of aids. It's so much easier to drive car these days.
funny coz I cant find civic on honda's japan website :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Swordie
there is no civic in japan anymore
Talking of accessories, has anybody had fitted the 'door styling guards' on their new Civic? Do they look good?
To clarify, current Aust models are built in Japan. I was wondering if OEM is actually available on Japan built models.Quote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
I thought reverse sensors would have been made like, standard on just about every model since 1999
not sure if seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by Glocker