we have all stooped down to this level.
*sigh & thumbs up*
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we have all stooped down to this level.
*sigh & thumbs up*
call yourself a mod?!!! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
:p j/k
My pleasure, even if it leads to a continuation of arronngs incredible word playsQuote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
:p
Everyone needs to have some fun once in a while ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kraiye
??? wats rong with mods that joke?
u obviously dont leave the euro section much to see wat the other mods are like
anyway, back on topic
Justin! give us an updateeeee
COUGH QBALL COUGH wo0000ppsz how inappropriate of me
lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
installed the comptech exhaust tonight... will have videos in the next few days... first impression are good... but itll be interesting to see what it sounds like off the jack stands and under load... (as apposed to sitting 2feet in the air free revving...)
:thumbsup:
wohoooo lovely cant wait :)
Eagerly awaiting your vid.
y r ppl in this place so firey?Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
u obviously dont read ppl's whole posts or u wouldn't have missed the ":p j/k" at the end.
it was a JOKE!
mods with humour = the shiznit! :thumbsup:
after all... mods are ppl too u know!
and fyi, this is prob my FIRST time in the Accord section.
HAND :)
heheh to be exact the Accord Euro section. :thumbsup: hehe taking the piss outta you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kraiye
ok, well im gonna have to get the car back up on jacks again, the exhaust is vibrating off the cars heat shield just behind the middle muffler, makes really annoying sound...Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
verdict so far: exhaust sounds extremely low deep and sexy at idle... when revving that changes to more of a raspy typical 4cyl sound... but under WOT it definately sounds nice... kinda does a little back crackle when backing off from 4000rpm, but that may only be while the ecu getting used to it... i dont know whether its the exhaust or the fact i sound deadened my entire boot, but cruising still sounds completely stock inside :) :thumbsup:
anyway, heres the video, not awesome quality, but u kinda get the idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5eTtpJ8fIE
maybe its backfiring Nice though.
rofl, sound deadening prob the reason, just curious why you sound deaden the boot? do you have a sub?
yeah i got two :p lol but also i dont like drone... i do trip around a bit in my euro.... would hate to do canberra to brisbane with drone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
lol to it for a drive tonight... im actually really liking it, sounds alot better when driving.... ive pin pointed where the vibration is, so ill fix that up soon... sitting on 80km/hr in 6th gear its the nicest low deep rumble... but either drop down to 5th or do 90... and you cant hear a thing, its like its stock! :D
cant wait till i get my 3" intake installed tho :thumbsup: lol ill try get cabin recordings some time soon, i need a new way of recording videos, the camera im using only records down to 100-120hz... well above the low deep grumble of idle note :(
nice mate,Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
hopefully when the ECU fully adjusts to the exhaust it won't be as droney.
sometimes i am glad my 5zigen is piss quiet but nice when revving. --> compared to loud but nice deep tone idle buddyclub.
Most video cameras have the capability to plug in an external mic. Does yours have that?Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
its not video camera... its a cheap 3mp fuji camera using the inbuilt "video" function lol :(Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Haha Justin your tuner must love you,there once a week.lol
F*******CK!
lol whoever said awhile back that the cooling system is different... and i said its not? lol well it is, im desperately trying to get my hands on a K20 water outlet connection, as it is a completely diff part to the K24s :( lol
damnit! plus i just realsied ill have to mod my RBC manifold to fit onto a K20 head with the seperate water outlet... means pulling out the angle grinder and doing some cutting!
why does there have to be soooo much work involved! :eek:
Told you. I read it on k20org. Bugger.
ust went thru 22 pages... wow... your a freak...
Yeah, if I were you, pick up a k20a manifold instead of grinding down your RBC. I'm sure you can make up the price of the k20A manifold and a little extra by selling the RBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
lol nah this cars gonna be unique :) lol RBC FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
i just finished modifying my second P2R IM thermal gasket from JDMyard to fit the K20 head... and yes i know they sell them for it, but i didnt realise that when i ordered it lol i keep thinking that the K20 is the same as the K24 head lol
lol he cant get over having the first RBC, props 2 you man i respect the commitment.
ok... so got some better pics of the head today... here are some non blurry close ups :)
INTAKE:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...F2265Large.jpg
EXHAUST:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...F2267Large.jpg
DECK:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...F2270Large.jpg
THE SECRET IS OUT:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...2273Medium.jpg
Well if those port figures are anything to go by then this thing will flow nicely with the right headers and intake, combined with a decent set of cams and a raise in the redline it will scream along!!!
woah this is so nice man im sure this can take up to high rpm :D cant wait till u finish ur project :O !!!!! the 1st euro 2.4l with high rpm
lol nah mine will be staying at stock 7400rpm rev limit... i dont want to kill my engine lolQuote:
Originally Posted by felixd
besides, i think theres a certain melbourne based euro thats revved to 8000rpm a few times... ;) no names mentioned hehe
roflmao!
would be nice to though but yeh too harsh for the euro.
unless we had the K20a engine
^i think i could guess..lol
Justin... SHHHHUUUSH!!!!!
hey what ever happened to you development in progress?Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
Wow awesome! Keep us updated man...how long to go before all parts are installed?
More pics of the headlights with blacked out housing lol...really keen to see how it looks (seen the other pics that was uploaded) :)
LATEST UPDATE!
Aaronng you will be happy :)
the J32A3 throttle body definately runs on the K24A3... it has required a few mods to do (nothing electrical, just physical)... but it works, hooked it up before, cold idle sat about 1900rpm, warm idle sat at 1100rpm... obviously needs to be recalibrated... throttle control was good, not jumping or over sensitive... :D
Nice!!!!! Will you be selling your modified spares? heheehehe.
Does the stock intake arm still fit over the J32 TB?
ill try that tonight... i fitted my 2.5" K&N over it, so you might be able to do it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
yeah, ive ordered 3x J32A3 throttle bodies, and after ive modded them to suit, ill prob sell 1 or 2, keep the others for a complete intake system..
PM me your price for 1 of the TBs. hehehehe :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
Does it bolt straight onto the RBB instake manifold too?
ok i tried it with the stock intake piping... no go :( just wont squeeze over the inlet pipe...Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
as for being direct bolt on, yes, but! the idle bypass cutout needs to be blocked off somehow, im getting mine welded up, you could probably use a custom made gasket, all i did to try it out was cover it with gaffa tape :p lol
MORE PICTURES!
P2R throttle body spacer bored out to 66mm :D
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...2287Medium.jpg
66mm spacer vs. stock 60mm plenum inlet
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...2281Medium.jpg
J32A3 TB (left) vs. K24A3 TB (right)
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...2289Medium.jpg
Backside of the two TBs *NOTE on the K24A3 TB you can see where it blanks out the idle bypass cutout...
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...2294Medium.jpg
Was the size difference between the J32A3 and the K24A3?
J32A3 = 64mmQuote:
Originally Posted by Nepolian
K24A3 = 60mm
but my J32A3 has ported inlet and outlets, i kinda copied off the spoon TB desgin
Hmmm... Now I feel like going for the FD2R throttle body.... Would you be able to source a used one? hehhe.
i havent seen close up pics of one (so not sure on its design, my guess is very similar to the K24A3 DBW TB...) meaning it should bolt straight on... i know that theyre 64mm but i think the FD2R uses a RSP intake manifold? which doesnt have the idle bypass, meaning i dont know if the TB would have blanking plate for it or not? im still trying to find pics of it! lol heres the part # GMD1A, but they are very rare... saw one a couple months back for USD$350...Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
which is why i went for J32A3...
Wow, how much was the J32 TB instead? Maybe I should try to source a 2006-2008 TSX intake arm as those have a slightly larger diameter.
J32s go for around USD$100-150Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
yeah itd prob fit... or if u just made a custom pipe?
I prefer a stock look. Hmm, time to check ebay. From the pics, the K24A3 TB has that idle bypass, but the gasket blanks it out, is that right? Would that mean that I would just need to find a similar gasket for the J32A3 TB which does the same thing by blocking the idle bypass?Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
Crap, nothing from ebay. Does your contact have any 06+ intake arms in stock?
wad is the benefit on this TB if put in RBB intake manifold will it be more responsive n how much kw approx can be made ? with this mod just having I/H/E mods
How long is a piece of string? You'll have to put it on your car and dyno a before and after.Quote:
Originally Posted by felixd
on the K24A3 TB, underneath the main inlet theres an extra flat piece of aluminium, even tho there is a rectangular cutout in the gasket, when pressed up against the RBB, this blocks the idle bypass... on the J32A3 however, youll notice there is no flat aluminium continuation under the inlet... so when using the normal gasket (or J32A3 gasket) on the RBB or RBC, the idle bypass will have a leak....
ill send him an email and check, im not sure if he has any '06 tsxs in atm... (he normally just deals with engines only)
lol hopefully my euro gets to be that piece of stringQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Ahh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand which part it is. What is the solution to this short of either using the RBC manifold or using an adaptor plate to block up the bypass?Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
well even on the RBC there is an idle bypass... so on mine im just welding it up... the simple solution tho as you say, would be a gasket or blanking plate :thumbsup: or, there is an intake manifold that bolts directly to the K24A3 block, that does not have an idle bypass... AND it makes more power than thr RBC :eek: buy one aaronng!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Wow better intake than RBC? What is it? Do tell?
This modding is getting more exciting by the day.
need more updates!:wave:
hehehe not sure if it goes aswell top end... but definately more torque mid range... its called the RRC (or RSP) and is off the FN2R
heres a pic of its "chamber of torque" lol
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1...4mediumop5.jpg
LOL fkn hell man i cant wait till you install all this shiz
Haha nice! I can't imagine the MAP sensor going "what the" when you first put on the RBC and then going "WTF!!?!?!?" after you put the RRC on.Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
Looks like I am going to have to wait for your hand-me-downs :p
So maybe this RRC will be viable if straight bolt on 64mm throttlebody can be sourced.
or maybe you can just bolt up the RRC and FNR2 64mm TB as one unit no mods to the K24!
Yeah, was thinking about that since the FN2R has an electronic throttle too. Just need to check that teh Euro's ECU is able to operate it. It should since it can run the J32A TB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
lol you shouldnt seen my engine when i first started it with the J32A3 TB on it lol car was like "holy sh*t so much air!"
lol yeah i think i ordered too many parts lol :p
RRC manifold is PERFECT for J32A3 TB, becuase the RRC does not have an idle bypass, so they will mate perfectly with no holes :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
im trying to weigh up now whether to stay with RBC or try an RRC... decisions decisions...
both the euro type r and civic have k20 right? how great would the difference of each intake manifold be? would the tb diameter be a good simple mans indicator?
i understand that there are differences between both the k20's used in the civic and euro such as the civic (jdm) making greater power at higher rpms.
so we cant use a euro type r throttle body due to it not being compatible with our electronic throttle where as the civic type r is?
Choose one and I'll take the remaining choice. hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
lol is that easy? so you dont think theres enough difference for it 2 matter?
Wow. The RRC sounds good. Wonder how it will dyno.
Question is?: Can you even buy this RRC yet?
i eny u lol.. ur euros gonna be crazy
CL7 euroR uses JDM K20A spec R engine...Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro08Jaz
Makes 162kw at 8,000rpm
and 206nm torque at 7,000rpm
cabled 62mm throttle body
FN2R CTR uses JDM K20A spec R and makes...
165kw at 8,000rpm
and 215nm torque at 6,100rpm
electronic 64mm throttle body
my guess is that the peak power increase is due to the intake/exhaust ports being polished (same process used on the NSX), and that the extra torque (lower down in the rev range too :thumbsup:) is due to the RRC manifold design...
i cant source any atm :( saw one in an old sale thread from a few months ago go for USD$620... alot to pay for the possible extra torque! if i could find one for a good price, id definately give it a go... but i still might have something up my sleeve lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
So what are you hoping for at the wheels when it's all built and tuned mate?
lol im not tuning it... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by vte18c
i dont wanna guess numbers, because i dont want to let people down if i dont make them, and because im not tuning, i dont even know if its going to work... all ill say is, guys running similar mods and setup to this, once tuned get anywhere between 200-240hp atw...
how much is that in kw's?
150-180kwsQuote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
niceeee
200-240HP US dyno? thats around 140-160kw atw AUS
still very impressive for a euro
He's located in Aus... would that be considered a US dyno? 160kW is still subtantial for an Euro with stock ECU.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatboyz39
hehehe data logger (a/f ratio) installed today, logged files will be up soon :D
oh and i do believe i hit 10,000+ views :p lol
So the new heads not on yet but you have the Af gauge hooked up in preparation.
I was looking at k20a.org and theres some fantastic results with a k20a head on the K24 with almost no tuning.
Im hoping you will get an immediate 20kw boost. That would really set my pants on first..so to speak!
You still projecting end of month on the head install?
yeah im logging my a/f ratios before the build so once i do it i can compare and make sure the ecu is coping...Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
the build is planned for monday-wednesday coming up :D only problem is im still waiting on two parts :( so the heads will be swapped, but i wont be able to drive it until they arrive! :(
tell us wat A/F ratioz ur getting J
post us up some graphs and shiet, lol
still trying to figure out how to export the graphs lolQuote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
but idle i sit dead on 14.4... under WOT its pretty much 12.5 the whole time...
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sounds good J
numbers are pretty cool, tho, im talking in a textbook sense, not in a "ive seen many built engines with these numbers sense" lol, so dont trust me, lol
WOT is a little rich, but thats a good thing, reduces the possibility of knock, idle is ok
u were properly warmed up when u got those ratios right?
yepp yep :D water temp was 92degrees... oil temp 87degrees and oil pressure at idle was 25psi...Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
yeah im glad my WOT is rich cause thats when the engine is running in open loop (off settings in the ecu and not chasing the sensors)... so hopefully all will go well :thumbsup: