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17-02-2010, 03:56 PM
JasonGilholme

anyway, i'm sick of this B series vs D series crap. Its about having fun with what you've got.

Have any of you D guys priced a turbo setup for your car? I really like the EJ8 (??) Sedans and would probably get one for a daily if i needed a new one. If i was going to do anything major to that i would probably go turbo.
17-02-2010, 04:08 PM
will13

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Originally Posted by GSi_PSi

Fair enough, i wanna see a 100kw D16a non-turbo for less than a b16a swap then ill take back all my comments...
D series owners love talking about how they can build this B series killer and always sitting there defending it. Why not try actually doing it, then you can talk and then defend it with your setup.. Dont try and come up with oh this D16 turbo will easily make that much power... cause this is the all motor section...
Just curious what does a D16a nonvtec make at the wheels?. and what about a D16y8 vtec ?

not sure about a d16a but il defo be trying to get the d16y1 up around that mark as cheap as possible.

d16a8 and d16y8 both make something like 78fwkw (according to d-series.org) but i think they call the a8 something different over there. I've seen some claims of mid low 90's with i/h/e.

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Originally Posted by xtercii

hahah just let them try what they wanna do, it doesn't harm anyone...

but in saying that I remembmer the 1.6 D ranging from 88kw to 92kw, spending 3k and expecting them to match b16a (118kw) is a bit unrealistic. We are talking about nearly 30kw increase, and 10kw per $1k is big number for any 4 bangers. I'd love to see one and proven wrong though...

88 to 96...sorry lol just being pedantic.
17-02-2010, 04:10 PM
will13

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

anyway, i'm sick of this B series vs D series crap. Its about having fun with what you've got.

Have any of you D guys priced a turbo setup for your car? I really like the EJ8 (??) Sedans and would probably get one for a daily if i needed a new one. If i was going to do anything major to that i would probably go turbo.

I've priced one for a y1 at about $600 US which imo is REALLY cheap. See below

The kit contains:
-FJ R Spec Custom Length D16 I Beam Connecting Rods
-ARP 2000 3/8" Rod Bolts
-ARP Lube
-YCP Vitara pistons (75mm / 75.5mm / 76mm)
-Wrist pins and C clips
-Piston rings (Hastings or NPR)
-OEM Timing Belt
-Japanese Water Pump
-ACL Rod Bearings
-ACL Main Bearings
-ACL or King Thrust washers
-Full engine Gasket & Seals set--> Its all the gaskets and seals you will need for your engine from the oil pan and up to the head.Metal 3 layer Head gasket (approx .030 thickness)

Looks like you'd have to source the snail from elsewhere though
17-02-2010, 05:04 PM
TheSaint

i have considered FI but my little D15b7 has over 300k kms on it now and i think it would involve alot of replacement OEM parts if i did lol
17-02-2010, 05:05 PM
beeza

Yeah forsure haha
17-02-2010, 05:23 PM
dougie_504

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSi_PSi

Fair enough, i wanna see a 100kw D16a non-turbo for less than a b16a swap then ill take back all my comments...
D series owners love talking about how they can build this B series killer and always sitting there defending it. Why not try actually doing it, then you can talk and then defend it with your setup.. Dont try and come up with oh this D16 turbo will easily make that much power... cause this is the all motor section...
Just curious what does a D16a nonvtec make at the wheels?. and what about a D16y8 vtec ?

The guys on CRXAustralia say a D16A8 makes low-mid 70's in stock form. I think it's about 93.2kw at the engine.

D16Y8 I dunno, but the D16Y1 is around 65-70kw
17-02-2010, 05:47 PM
bennjamin

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougie_504

The guys on CRXAustralia say a D16A8 makes low-mid 70's in stock form. I think it's about 93.2kw at the engine.

D16Y8 I dunno, but the D16Y1 is around 65-70kw

a d16a8/zc makes exactly 96kw @ the flywheel dead stock brand new.
Around 55-60kw ATW. The d16y1 and d16y8 both make 96kw too. Similar kw at the wheels too.
Less since its so old now.
17-02-2010, 05:47 PM
JasonGilholme

Quote:

Originally Posted by will13

I've priced one for a y1 at about $600 US which imo is REALLY cheap. See below

The kit contains:
-FJ R Spec Custom Length D16 I Beam Connecting Rods
-ARP 2000 3/8" Rod Bolts
-ARP Lube
-YCP Vitara pistons (75mm / 75.5mm / 76mm)
-Wrist pins and C clips
-Piston rings (Hastings or NPR)
-OEM Timing Belt
-Japanese Water Pump
-ACL Rod Bearings
-ACL Main Bearings
-ACL or King Thrust washers
-Full engine Gasket & Seals set--> Its all the gaskets and seals you will need for your engine from the oil pan and up to the head.Metal 3 layer Head gasket (approx .030 thickness)

Looks like you'd have to source the snail from elsewhere though

you'll spend a bit more for the turbo gear i'm sure. I haven't looked at prices in a long time.

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Originally Posted by TheSaint

i have considered FI but my little D15b7 has over 300k kms on it now and i think it would involve alot of replacement OEM parts if i did lol

I think at 300K you'd be needing to replace OEM parts anyway. Turbo or not!
17-02-2010, 06:03 PM
beeza

Here's an old dyno graph.

d16y4 auto,4th gear run.

The only mods then were:

Custom Intake
2" exhaust piping and x-force twin loop,stock cat and resonator

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l2...rstDynoRun.jpg
17-02-2010, 06:07 PM
will13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennjamin

a d16a8/zc makes exactly 96kw @ the flywheel dead stock brand new.
Around 55-60kw ATW. The d16y1 and d16y8 both make 96kw too. Similar kw at the wheels too.
Less since its so old now.

Ben, I think the figure at the wheels is going to be higher than that. 40% loss atw is huge for FWD

I have raced against a SSS pulsar that pulled 93fwkw and he only just gained on me slowly by the time i hit 3rd gear. Probably 1 car length at the most.

All i had at the time was a catback. No headers, no intake, no high flow cat. just catback.

Makes me think that the y1 is putting more to the ground than what people might think? I'm not sure

Fully laden, he's heavier by about 100kg
17-02-2010, 06:10 PM
bennjamin

Quote:

Originally Posted by will13

Ben, I think the figure at the wheels is going to be higher than that. 40% loss atw is huge for FWD

I have raced against a SSS pulsar that pulled 93fwkw and he only just gained on me slowly by the time i hit 3rd gear. Probably 1 car length at the most.

All i had at the time was a catback. No headers, no intake, no high flow cat. just catback.

Makes me think that the y1 is putting more to the ground than what people might think? I'm not sure

Fully laden, he's heavier by about 100kg

Im not doubting the mighty old d16a8. Great old engine , i had one. But it put exactly 58ishkw atw in 2004. Well maintained.
17-02-2010, 06:10 PM
beeza

That WAS at the 1/4 mile right Will? LOL :)

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