Just for my stockies (EM1 15" rims)
205 or 195 u reckon? 205 size tyres probably be loud yea?
Whats your impression of Falkens?
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Just for my stockies (EM1 15" rims)
205 or 195 u reckon? 205 size tyres probably be loud yea?
Whats your impression of Falkens?
I haven't had the best experiences with falkens in the past, but it really does depend on the spec of tyre you go after. I would steer clear of the ziex range for your car. They are ok on smaller cars....Quote:
Originally Posted by causeraybay
they are the sort of tyre that last a long time, but are attrocious in wet weather. 205 is a bit wide for stock 15 rims. I'd say stick to 195.
dunlop sp sport maxx's on now! quiet, and seem to be handling quite well so far.
Which falkens?Quote:
Originally Posted by causeraybay
Apart from the Azenis RT215 and RT615, I don't like the falkens much.
They are an OK tyre, but within your $150 price range, the GoodYear GSD3 are a far superior tyre in terms of performance.
They also have very good mileage as they have a TWR of 280, which should be good for over 50,000km if you don't abuse em.
Ok i have had my goodyear gs-d3 235/40/18 after 1500kms now and just thought that u guys might want to know that the tyres dont last very long at all, cause after looking at em today iam only expecting 6000-8000kms max and this can be compared to my old gt radial campiros which lasted me 50000kms.
And yes iam running exactly the same camber and settings as i had with the campiros.
And just woundering does anyone here have gs-d3's which are made in Australia? Cause ive heard other ppl getting alot more kms than iam gonna get using them, cause i suspect that since the 18's r now made in Aus the rubber compound is a lot softer to the original germany ones.
are you doing burnouts? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by boggey
I can't see how a set of GSD3 would last for only 6-8000km if you looked after them.
even after 2 trackdays (one in the wet admittedly), I could not see significant wear on my set of GSD3s. Mine were made in Australia too.
GT radials are a hard compound, so they will last, but traction/handing is focking horrible.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit
No iam not doing burn outs, wish my car could though :p , but i do sometimes push it a bit.
But yeah the fronts on my cars pretty bad but the backs r still like new, looking at the treadwear it looks like i had a bit too much camber, but this was on the stock struts/spring.
But anyway i put on tein ss coilovers yesterday, and i go for my wheel alignment and camber adjustments tomoz.
But yea like i said iam driving exactly the same way i was when i had the gt radials, i know they r a harder compound but i still didnt expect the gs-d3's to wear so quickly.
Bridgestone S0-3
Price: $350 :confused:
Awesome grip around corners.
what size is that?
you can get S03s in 245-40-17 for that price
17-inch
how long to the C.drives last for km wise..?
about 20000 on them and plenty of meat left
Whats the TWR on them? I'm guessing around 220-260. If so, should last you around 40,000km if you take care of em.Quote:
Originally Posted by preludacris
They are the replacement for the A539.. I think they should last you for a while, but performance wise, they are fairly average. Quite a soft sidewall too.
hrmm
thats good to hear. Does anybody know the exact tread wear rating?
and how are they priced compared to say .. potenza gIII and preceda II. are they cheaper?
i think i would be looking at either preceda II or c.drive. it depends if i get some 15 inchers for spirited driving, i would definately prefer c.drive on my 17's for daily use (includes some hard cornering here and there)
heres a intresting little link i found.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...ay.jsp?type=MP
Ive gone through half this thread already and couldnt come across a comprehensive list of the info i wanted. Im gonna be lazy and not search through the rest of this thread..
1. AUSM DC2R stock tyre size = 195/50/R15?
2. What tyre did they originally come with? Im guessing Bridgestone Potenza RE050?
2. Recommended "BANG FOR YOUR BUCK" tyre for my stock AUSM DC2R rims.. (<$150 a piece)
edit: typo
1. 195/55R15Quote:
Originally Posted by arron
2. BS RE010
Bang for your bucks, something like BS G3/ Dunlop DZ101 (disconinued now) around 130-160
Check if they make sp sport maxxs in your size? I got mine in 17's for 222 each (few weeks ago) which was cheaper than I got the direzza dz101's 2 years ago ($255 each). Dunlop dealer at West Ryde was the cheapest place I got quoted.
Dunlop SP Sport MAXX only come in 17'' or 19'' according to their website...
No one has any Dunlop Direzza DZ101's anymore...
and since when did Bridgestone G3's sell for $165 each (195/55/R15)???? Focking expensive man.... anyone know a really cheap place for G3's in my size???
schucks man...
go the Good year GSD3 then.. in your size it should be well under 150.Quote:
Originally Posted by arron
My friend just bought a 16", for $150 each.
They are a good tyre, and will last a long time too.
the website isn't up to date for the sp sport maxx. call your local dunlop dealer and see if they have your size. the 17 inch size I have wasn't listed on dunlop site either.Quote:
Originally Posted by arron
Anyone got any feedback on the Yokohama A.drive R1s? also, anyone know the load rating of AD07s?
According to Yokie website, A.drive R1s is higher performance ranked than C.drive, have to call up the sport tyre dealer for the load rating of AD07s though....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/...passenger.aspx
I'm getting some new rims from tempe this month, whats decent rubber I should get with it? Nothing too expensive or exotic like P0's - but something with really good dry grip, average wet and nice thread pattern? 205/45/R17. or 215/45/R17 .. whichever has the most tyre choices.
Michelin Pilot Preceda
Fantastic performance and a all round weather performer.
They retail from about $185
Available for 15"-19"
Hello Everyone,
Took me ages to go through every response on this thread.
My current OEM Dunlops 205/55R16V91s are on their last month or so (done 50,000 Kms) and am looking for replacements. I do mainly city and freeway driving (90%) with the occassional country run (10%). Stopping power and wet grip is non-negotiable. The Dunlops were not fancy but they held their own under most normal driving conditions.
Mine is a lease car so am limited to my choices of preferred suppliers. From what I have read, surfed,etc., I am kinda narrowed to the following:
Bridgestone SO3s ($265ea)
Bridgestone G3s ($230ea)
Bridgestone ER30s ($280ea)
Continental CSC2s ($220ea)
Yokohama C.Drives ($220ea)
I think some of these prices are negotiable as they seem steep (ok ridiculous) when I read your comments.
I had some Yokis (A539s I think) on my old commodore and they were great, but had to replace them after only 35,000Kms! If the C.Drives are the A539 replacement, I am loathed to buy them. I am told the SO3s will fall into same category.
I like my next set of tyres to be better than the OEM Dunlops but to get at least 40,000kms out of them. From what is left, it looks like I am down to CSC2s and the G3s. Anyone like to give me their opinion on these?
Should I have considered other brands? I am a bit of a Bridgestone, Yokohama and Michellin bigot but am prepared to hear your opinions.
i was told some YOKOHAMA tyres was good but forgot the model...
currently using POTENZA GIII's 205/55/15...good in most conditions but gets a lil noisy when there isnt much grip left on it.but overall its good for day to day driving with a occasion of some wheelies...S03's arent bad too but dont actually know cos i havent tried it before
C.Drives have a wear rating of 300 now. What was the wear rating on the A539 that you had? I have C.Drives on our Astra, and they are good and silent. In terms of grip, it's better than the Dunlop 2050m that you have, and in the wet, the Dunlops are no challenge at all.
I need advise on quieter/ smoother 17" tyres. My current nankangs 205/45 have way too much road noise..:eek:
The Yokis I had was not the A539s. They were the A509s. Yeah, that was a while ago. The A509s were awesome until I done about 35,000Kms. Then the rubber compound harden so it was like driving on roller skates.
I went to the Bridgestone GR50s after that. They were competent but nowhere as good as the A509s. Then again I got good mileage out of the GR50s. So it is always a bit of a compromise between performance and wear.
Anyway, what does a wear rating of 300 mean? I love the looks of the C.Drives but don't fancy parting with $900 (include a wheel alignment) for tyres that will only last 18 months
Wear rating of 200 supposedly translates to about 55,000km. I doubt the C.Drive with 300 would 1/3 longer as the rubber would harden first. But it won't be as short as 24 months.
BTW, for Yokos, try calling up Tyrepower for quotes.
So the higher the rating, the longer they wear? Therefore a 300 rating would supposedly mean one should get something in excess of 55,000 Kms (rating of 200)? Or at least make it to 55,000 kms? Where is this stuff published?
The best I ever got on a set of tyres was 60,000 kms. I cannot remember what brand they were but they were not great, otherwise I would have remember them! I have now developed a habit to closely examine tyres once they have done 40,000 kms and just replace them outright if and when they make it to 50,000 kms.
If the C.drives have a rating of 300, almost assuring that I can get 45 to 50,000 kms, then they just creeped back into consideration. I read on the Tirerack web site that the Continental CSC2s are more of a dry weather tyre so I may just steer away from them
http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html
Basically, you can expect a 300 rating tyre to last twice as long as a 150 tyre as long as the driving conditions are the same and the alignment is perfect.
This is a fantastic web site. Sure explains a heck of a lot of stuff.
Where does the rating of 300 for the C.drive come from?
BTW, Tyrepower is not one of my leasing company's preferred suppliers. But Bob Jane is and they can supply the C.drive at @220 each. I would anticipate to pay something less than that thru the buying/referral power of the leasing company
It's printed on the tyre sidewall. I'm running a set on one of our cars.
I was quoted $188 for C.Drive 205/55 R16 at Claremont Tyrepower.
Bob Jane Bondi Junction wanted $205 fitted and balanced.
LOL.
Yes, that is one way to find out the rating. On the actual tyre itself - Doh!:o
I am just about sold on the c.drives now.
Those sound like really good prices. I also now have reference points to go and negotiate. Will let you know how it pans out
Looking for 2 front new tyres for 18inch wheels.. after something cheap around 150 mark which is decent... thinking of getting Ling Longs! Anyone heard of this brand? its a copy of the Nankangs? What you guys reckon??
When i was hunting for tyres, i basically narrowed it down to a very similar list like yours. Was pretty much set on getting the C.drives as well, heard a lot of good things and are supposedly very quiet (compared to my previous BS GIIIs and RE010, which i found noisy esp in my ek9).
But i thought i'd try some Hankooks as i have a friend who works for them, and hearing alot about silica tyres i thought i'd give them a go, as they were a lil cheaper too. Got me some 205/45/16 Hankook K424s and honestly i was quite suprised and very impressed... to me they were lighter on the steering and handling and i felt they rolled alot better, and were quieter too. Can't complain about grip either, very good and on par with my previous GIIIs and RE010s. I've really come to liking them, and will very likely get another set of Hankooks later on... the model i got were performance/comfort... but i think the most popular performance is the K104, similar league to GIIIs, C.drives. Have a look into them too if you can...
I've heard of them, duno how good they are tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwillz
Honestly, i've learned my lesson and i wouldn't recommend anyone go too cheap when it comes to tyres. They're what keeps u stuck to the ground, and safety wise they're one of the most important things on ur car. $100-200 difference for tyres isn't alot when u compare to claiming insurance or repairs or worse if anything happens due to shitty tyres. Anyway, i'm sure u can get a better set of tyres for only a little more.
Out of the ones you mentioned I would probably only get the S03. The S03 is a higher grade than the G3. Also I haven't heard of the ER30 before.Quote:
Originally Posted by fortec@sprint.net.au
I managed to get over 35,000km out of my set of S03s with rotation. But that is without any tyre abuse like burnouts etc.
My car makes a fair bit more power than the Accord so you should get significantly more mileage out of a set.
Like most tyres, they started losing a bit of grip towards the end of their life though.
One other thing to remember, the S03 has been around for a while now, so there are other tyres out there that perform equally as well or better for a cheaper price, such as the Dunlop SP Sport Maxx. Or the Goodyear GSD3.
One thing to keep in mind is that the TWR is not a common grading across all tyre manufacturers but a general guide within a brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
That is, a 200 Goodyear TWR will be different to a 200 Dunlop TWR.
I agree, the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 is a very good all rounder, and it should be cheaper than the S03.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit
This might help you decide which tyres to go with.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...y_f1_gs_ds.pdf
http://www.eurotuner.com/techarticle...ide/index.html
Sounds like treadwear is really important to you. I don't see how SO3 and GIII can out wear C.Drive while having a higher performance than them. Beside, you should get the C.Drive a bit cheaper than the Bridgestones.Quote:
Originally Posted by fortec@sprint.net.au
Does anyone has any update on the performance differences in GSD3 between the countries that they are made in? :(
the GSD3 will be ALOT cheaper than the S03.. I know someone that bought a set of 16" for $150 each. S03, ever since they won the Wheels tyre test a couple of years ago have become a rip off.Quote:
Originally Posted by euro77
slidetaker: I have *heard* that the german made GSD3 will outlast the Australian made ones, and that the Aussie ones lose grip towards the end.... but thats just something I heard from someone and I cannot confirm it. :)
And in anycase, whether a tyre loses grip towards the end of their life largely depends on how you treat them and how many heat cycles its been through anyway. I would say both Aussie and german ones would be pretty similar interms of quality and grip.
It is standardised and carried out under controlled conditions against a control tyre of rating 100. If under the tests, the manufacturer tyre lasts twice as long, then it is given a rating of 200. Granted, two 200 rating tyres will last the same under the controlled conditions, in real liffe it is different and they will each last a different duration. However, it is still a good guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kit
The rating is mandatory for the US as the test is an NHTSA test. Therefore for tyres sold in australia, you won't find the wear rating on every tyre sold here.
The TWR situation must have changed then. I remember years ago when not all tyres had TWRs, it was a rating within a manufacturer and it wasn't standardised.
Yup, now it's controlled and tested by NHTSA. No more fudging numbers. LOL. Instead they now fudge EPA fuel consumption numbers by putting in 5w-20 oil into Hondas in the US.
I am not so sure about that. According to “Tirerack”..Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
“….it is important to realize that the Department of Transportation does not conduct the tests. The grades are assigned by the tire manufacturers based on their test results or those conducted by an independent testing company they have hired. The NHTSA has the right to inspect the tire manufacturer's data….”
“..Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.’’
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...currentpage=35
LOL, don't take tirerack's articles as gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by slidetaker
The test track for the treadwear rating is located near San Angelo, Texas and it is owned by NHTSA. There is only ONE test track. All manufacturers go there to test, using the NHTSA testing procedure. Once manufacturer's test at that location, the data is then used to extrapolate the entire tyre life wear. Of course you can't say that a 200 tyre would last 40,000km and a 300 tyre would last EXACTLY 60,000km. It could be 50,000km, or it could be 70,000km. But, a 300 tyre should last significantly longer when driven under the same conditions as a 200 tyre. Remember, it's NOT a guarantee. It is a GUIDE.
PDF file of the testing procedure:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/staticfiles...-UTQG-W-01.pdf
get a set of 205/50/15 its cheap and you can get good control out of it
or try get Falken Azeni
Falken tyres are crap, easy as that. Do they even make the Azeni's any more?
yeah..azenis rt-615 with a new thread pattern.
Hey guys,
im running thin on tread on my Falken Ziex512s and it looks like sooner rather than later I'll be looking to upgrade. especially after getting a nice big thick can openner wire getting stuck and deflating my tyre last night.
I found the ZIEX512s not bad in dry but just like other people here - somewhat unpredictable in wet so definatelly something better handling in the wet is what im after.
Currently running 205/40/17s.
I called a couple places based on some of the recomendations here and found the prices being slightly more... by about $80
Potenza GIII @ $289
The guy recommended the following and wandering if anyone can comment on these:
Pirelli Dragons @ $280
Pirelli 7000 @ $314
Michelin Pilot Precenda @ $279
Yokohama Aro @ $280
Kumho KU21 @229
Kumho KU31 @199
I was hoping to purchase something closer to $200 so i'll do a few more calls here and there.
any info would be appreciated
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx in that size cost me $222 each however that was the cheapest quotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by SINISTR
Yoki's can't remember the A something spec, but were about 240 odd and EVS100 were about 270. Toyo T1R's got quoted about 250 as well.
looks like again Perth prices are more by about $40-$60 bucks!?
im tempted to get the Kuhmo KU31 @ $199.
Does anyone have them? they are getting quiet good reviews.
Hankook K104's would fit in your budget and are quite an excellent tyre.
ah yeah... thats what the guy at the tyre place said this morning when i was getting the Falken repaired.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
Just had a look around and aparently they have a very weak sidewall - when hitting a pothole etc they just crap themselves - can you confirm?
Just need to keep the tyre pressure up to recommended levels and they are fine. No less than 35psi and the sidewalls will last practically forever.
What you guys recommend for 14"
godo performance ones.
I got quoted the same price for the g3's though lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by SINISTR
with sydney you just ring around many places...prices vary heaps...
e.g. the most expensive quote for the dunlops I got was $345....ie...123 bucks more expensive per corner! :eek:
Quoted $160 per corner for bridgestone GIII 195/55 R15 for '98 DC2 in Brissie.
Ended up going for Yoko C-drives @$169 per corner. Highly recommend these tyres :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Same grip as G3's in the dry but the Yoko's grip very well in the wet, much better than the G3's. Even in a rainstorm they refused to break loose until I deliberatly dumped the clutch! Apparently are quieter because of their assymetrical tread.
Should last a bit longer than my previous g3's (20000 k's)
i doubt they would outgrip g3's in the dry
and in a motor mag tyre test i think it was, c drives were actually the loudest out of the group. opposite of what they claim. tho, the difference between the loudest and quitest tyre apparently would not be noticable to the human ear.
anywayz, thats what i magazine said. i havn't experience either so i can't really make judgement.
I've used C.drives in 15, and driven a car with GIII in 15 as well. C.drive is quieter. Dry grip-wise, I didn't push the GIII, but the C.drive grip well when going 10/10. In the wet, C.drives are superb as well. GIII doesn't have as good wet braking ability.
up for new tyres on my R
had the RE010, but seems like the GIII has superseded them...
so in the market for new 1s..
195/55/R15
GIII got quoted 165 per tyre
any other recommendations?
I'm pretty sure what tires you need will depend on your driving style.
Your choice will depend on what whether your you drive your car daily or just on weekends or on the track or whether you drive long distances.
My DC2 is pretty much a daily driver and I occasionally go for long distance drives, so I thought a good all-round tyre would be the more appropriate for me. If you read a few posts back my recommendation was for Yokohama C.drives as they have decent grip wet or dry and are only slighty more expensive than G3's.
G3's a quite a good tyre, but in my own experience they weren't that great in the wet and didn't last very long.
If you track your R a bit then I'm sure other members here will make some more tyre recommendations to you.
Cheers
165 for GIII ?!?! i got quoted for only 130.. 195/55/R15.
Well everyone. I had my heart set on a set of C.Drvies after reading through all these replies and recommendations.
I went to the lease company's designated Tyre Dealer and asked for C.Drives. He didn't have any in stock for my tyre size (205/55/16) and I really didn't want to wait until the new year so I went for what I thought were the next best thing - Michelin Precedas.
Full of excitment I took them out. Fantastic I thought: Quiet, a bit softer and very comfortable. They were comparable with the OEM Dunlop 2020s. I have had them for 1000kms now then I took them out in the rain.
What a disappointment!
In a straight line and slow turns - bewdiful! Then I took a slight hair pin bend at about 40 kphs and whoa...slide city..... Geezes I am disappointed! I mean these are new and just runned in.
I have only ever slid once in the OEM Dunlops and that was after nearly 50,000 Kms. Now I am stuck with these crap-in-the-wet tyres for another couple of years. I have lost all confidence of handling the Euro in the wet.
If you want wet grip, give these a miss. Go with the C.Drives. All those people out there can't be wrong. I should have waited.....
That's the problem. Dunlop 2020s and 2050s are SHIT. Poor grip in the dry and next to none in the wet. If you want something from Michelin that is up there with the C.Drive, then look at the Pilot Sport. But I don't think they make it in 16" as most European sports models come with 17" or larger. That's why if you want a higher performing tyre in a smaller size, you need to go for a Japanese brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by fortec@sprint.net.au
My Girlfriend has the C.Drives on her Astra in 205/55R16 and handling in all conditions is fantastic to say the least ;)
Shame about the lease tyre dealer actually allowing you to fit them, they should have suggested otherwise :(
any reviews on the continental premium contacts?
Yoko C-drive: 225/45/17
price: 260/cnr from bob jane
performance: one of the good reputation tyre, excellent grip dry or wet, but bit noisy on fwyz, but they rekon if u put pure nitrogen in it would make it alot beta
who drives hard in the wet anywayz.
obviously if u have mad dry grip, ur gonna sacrifice some wet grip. take so3 for example. i wonder if they would be a dissapointment :S
wif this price u can get c-drive which is well known very nice tyres, Michelin PP2 is not bad as well(very quiet but not as soft as yoki's), but guess u can get them cheaper than this price!Quote:
Michelin Pilot Precenda @ $279
Yokohama Aro @ $280
mine yoko's c-drive 225/45/17 from bob jane onli $260 per corner include fitting, so go shop around.
Looking at getting a set of bridgestone potenza GIII's for my soon to arrive 16" rims. I Want to keep as close to the rolling diameter i have now to have minimum rubbing. Currently i am running 195/50/15's on my stock rims. So i am thinking a set of 205/45/16's would be the best option. I figoured with this tyre on a 16" rim it would push up the rolling diameter about 7.5mm more into the gaurd. I have looked into the SO3's as well but they don't have the size that i want. Any recomendations on other options or does this sound about right, sound like a good option. Wat kind of prices am i looking at??
Any help would be awesome.
Thanks,
-Mike
For those interested in tyres in the size of 185/60/14. Just got a quote from Bob Jane Box Hill for
Bridgestone GIII's = $99
Yokohama C.drive = $119
fitted and balanced...
A week ago i got myself two Falken FK451's in size 215/35/18s, very good tyres, handles well in the wet and the dry however very very noisy tyres! Possibly noisy because i havent done an alignment yet?
wat do u guys reckon about a 225x50/16 for $115. They are called directional tyres. ive never heard of them. by the way they are brand new.
cheers guys.
can anyone comment on the new toyo proxes 4, from experience ?
I’m yet to see a review for these in here and am quite surprised about it, for those wondering ill give my personal take on these fantastic tyres.
Falken Azenis RT-615
205/50R15
Tread wear 200
Traction A
Temperature A
$220 each fitted and balanced (Re.JDMyard)
As my first tyre Review I can safely say if you are after a tyre with the utmost excellence in dry weather handling with no bearing on tread wear the Falken Azenis RT-615 is the tyre for you. Bordering the line of Radial and Semi Slick the RT-615 is a hard tyre to beat with its versatility as a Street/Track tyre. Much like the model it replaced, this tyre has had numerous reviews putting forward that the tyre has poor wet weather characteristics. However, my personal experiences through heavy rain (coming home from eastern creek) have shown that given a responsible driving style these tyres are perfectly fine during wet weather, contra to these reviews. If you are after a tyre Irrespective of It’s wear I highly recommend these tyres and I give it 4 out of 5 thumbs up.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
205/40/16Quote:
Originally Posted by DNYALL