Ozhonda Post Quality System / Knowledgable Posts

because it takes away the emphasis from car enthusiast forums

it leaves the possibility of this website revolving around the FS section instead of the rest of the honda enthusiast forums

it makes sense that ther will be less spam and bs going around simply because ppl wont be spamming massive amounts of garbage simply to get their PQ point and jump onto the FS forum

Also, if the FS section isnt restricted to proper members, then the amount of FS threads will triple, making moderating ALOT more difficult

any progress on this topic?

My comments in bold.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

For starters it shouldn't be a question of "How Many" it should be a "yes/no qualification" type system that qualifies people to sell in the for sale section
THe how many mentality creates a division amongst this community - mods vs general populus, and populus vs populus etc.

Agreed. That's why I'm looking at hiding the little green blocks.

secondly, requests to have an account with selling priveliges should be made with moderators basing their decision on point a) above. A registered account should not have selling privelidges to begin with.

This brings up the whole issue of fairness and users will start complaining of biased moderating. Not to mention the fact that moderators will be inundated with requests on top of their already large work load. It is just not feasible.

but honestly the ideal solution is to allow anyone to sell on here and just moderate the forum. Who cares if people just join to sell, i'd rather have that than read 90% of the bullshit around here... as it gives members a greater list of items to purchase, thats a win win.

I just dont see why thats a problem

Then unfortunately you've failed to see one of the main reasons for the forum, and that is for it NOT for it to become a place for people to merely buy/sell things. The main purpose for this forum is for people to help each other out and learn about their Hondas.

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ok

John's at it again. Negative repping when he Clearly knows better
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...39&postcount=2

Bad rep for that comment, was "there is other ways to do it" (-1 Rep for Bad Grammar, lol) when clearly in later comments in the same thread I've offered alternatives.

Interestingly I received a +rep from another person for the same thread.

This is an obvious case of abuse of position, and I want
a) the rep removed
b) the moderator warned to not abuse the system with an infraction.

I believe an infraction for Misuse of the PQ system is worth 10 points.

what is going to be done about this?

I noticed you guys have not only left the -rep, but have removed a +rep.

What are you guys up to?

who ? where ? Ive been away since the 26th so calm down ill have alook.

you refer to this ?

ECU-MAN ProECU 16:21, 27th Feb 2008 -9 there is other ways to do it
If there are other ways to do it , its a justified point. I do hope ECU MAN can reply with examples in that thread , so everyone can learn.

This is not "abuse" of the system. (as was that last complaint)

What +rep was removed ?

did you actually read the thread with my alternatives?

its NOT a legit -rep and you know it.

Just looking out for your mates arent you

lol bro, u look in2 this way 2 much, green blocks are like a dick, its not the size thats important, its how u use it :p

just chill man. u have 2 greeblocks anyway...

lol for someone so old evan you act like such a child

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Originally Posted by mr crex

lol for someone so old evan you act like such a child

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lol u think this is bad

u shooda seen the stuff that got deleted

rediculous yeah?

I really value your opinion Steve

i dun get how to become a member!

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Originally Posted by J_Phongsavan

i dun get how to become a member!

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http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...73&postcount=2

Reply or post only if you have something legitimate or valuable to add to this thread plz ppls :)

Is there a problem with having "PM me for product X" in signatures?

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Originally Posted by power_of_dreams

Is there a problem with having "PM me for product X" in signatures?

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Wrong section. But no, there is no problem with advertising in your signature as long as it is not too big and distracting.

cool just wanted some clarification. sorry about the wrong section.

not allowed to ask for PQ's
try posting useful info.
and u will get pq

That is right Tai.

RDX, you haven't really contributed at all to providing useful information to this forum. Have a look at your post history and you will understand.

www.carsales.com.au is the place to go.

ROFL I've been thinking that i've been given people PQ points.. ._____. didn't know about 100 points before I can give them out! And I have a green box.. I still can't post in for sale thread!

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Originally Posted by RtN

ROFL I've been thinking that i've been given people PQ points.. ._____. didn't know about 100 points before I can give them out! And I have a green box.. I still can't post in for sale thread!

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coz you havnt been a member for long enough

Thanks.. WOW @ all your PQ points lol!

hey guys, dont think this has been mentioned b4....

is there a way we can find out precisely which posts a user has been given a neg rep point for?

maybe this way, a user with a red box isn't automatically dismissed as a useless spammer? it might add an element of objectivity

say, if u click on the red box, it links u to another page containing more links to all the posts the user has received neg rep for

it doesnt have to show the name of the user who issued the neg rep, just the post, to help ppl decide accordingly if a person with a red box deserves a +ve PQ point or not

just an idea, its prob too complicated on the vb/html programming side of things....

not infractions ben

neg rep points, maybe im confused....

lol we both are. I linked you wrong but you described wrong.

FYI , a person with a red box has -1 or less (more?) reputation points.

You want to know if normal members can view the amount of neg. points they have ? No real point as if someone tries hard enough it doesnt matter how many points they have , they will get a rep ( or - rep)

Ben

I think he is asking
if you can find out why they actually got neg rep for.
As in...what sorta crap they answered to a question.

nah afaik only mods can look at such info. the system works with a level of anonymity to keep bias out ( IE if certain people give someone rep , then you might not etc)

lol ben, thnx for moving

i shooda put it in here to begin with

its just that ive seen lots of users with red boxes, and im a bit unsure as to whether they deserve a +point or not wen they do post something of worth

just thought seeing the posts they got a neg for would help judge wat kind of person they are, and whether the +point is deserved

all im saying, is currently, im very cautious wen giving + to ppl with red boxes, and i cbfed sifting through their previous posts to judge, lol

and yeh, thnx for input will

edit, ah crap, bloody tai, ur avatar confused me, lol

good point i understand your perspective.This is the discussion area after all.

Dont let previous mistakes cloud your judgment. If you notice someone is actively trying to be in our discussions or trying to help out ( with CORRECT info) then they by all means deserve a + rep.
If they say one good reppable thing and they haven't been too active before , they can sit on red for all we care.

oh btw, this only applies to ppl with red boxes

and only to neg points they recieved

and ppl dont get to see who gave out the neg point

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

good point i understand your perspective.This is the discussion area after all.

Dont let previous mistakes cloud your judgment. If you notice someone is actively trying to be in our discussions or trying to help out ( with CORRECT info) then they by all means deserve a + rep.
If they say one good reppable thing and they haven't been too active before , they can sit on red for all we care.

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yeh fair enough

just that ive seen a fair few ppl with red boxes lately, lol

Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

well i still get one evry now and then

and lots of ppl still use it

its just that evry1 is very careful handing them out than ever before

after that interesting incident from last year

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Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2

Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

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It is because the people who find the posts helpful are newcomers and they do try to give points. Because of the minimum point limit before you can give actual points, it just turns up as a grey box. But it is still listed in UserCP.

Should be reduced to 50 I reckon haha =]

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Originally Posted by krogoth

hey guys, dont think this has been mentioned b4....

is there a way we can find out precisely which posts a user has been given a neg rep point for?

maybe this way, a user with a red box isn't automatically dismissed as a useless spammer? it might add an element of objectivity

say, if u click on the red box, it links u to another page containing more links to all the posts the user has received neg rep for

it doesnt have to show the name of the user who issued the neg rep, just the post, to help ppl decide accordingly if a person with a red box deserves a +ve PQ point or not

just an idea, its prob too complicated on the vb/html programming side of things....

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I see what you mean but unfortunately it's not possible. Ben makes a good point that you should treat each post based on merit (and not on the users past comments).

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Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2

Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

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It is still being used. It's just harder for a user to become a member / hand out points now because of the clowns that abused the system awhile back.

The hiding of the blocks is on my to do list. Just haven't had any weekends free of late.

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Originally Posted by wynode

It is still being used. It's just harder for a user to become a member / hand out points now because of the clowns that abused the system awhile back.

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it certainly doesnt appear to be used as much?

comment based on ? From what ive browsed in the stats its still used as much as ever. Not just the usual suspects but.

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

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or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?

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Originally Posted by dsp26

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

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or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?

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^ Nope. Not a feature of vBulletin and if it was we probably wouldn't implement it either. Sorry.

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Originally Posted by dsp26

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

***EDIT***
or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?

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That's just a code like [quote] that hides certain text - vb doesn't have any plugin to auto do that on neg post - and if it did... everyone would just give negs on posts they didn't want showing. - what difference, if post is that bad - mod will delete.

Really wish I could post in parts for sale section though >_< no damn points.

heh.

[quote=aramiK;1626359]That's just a code like

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that hides certain text - vb doesn't have any plugin to auto do that on neg post - and if it did... everyone would just give negs on posts they didn't want showing. - what difference, if post is that bad - mod will delete.

Really wish I could post in parts for sale section though >_< no damn points.

heh.

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try to be helpful 1st :)

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts these days are spam

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts these days are spam

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That is why I tend to stay in the model and technical sections rather than the lounge when I am doing my daily ozhonda reading. I only go into the lounge to do thread/post cleaning. :)

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts in the lounge these days are spam

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fixed

You are right about the majority being in the lounge but it's the spamming in serious threads wich bothers me

Half the time i can't be botherd sifting through the spam in other sections to see if the advice sort has been given a reply

The other day aarong deleated a post that i reported because i got so sick of it, by the way thank you for that

Are members actually still able to rep posts if over 100? Or is it just moderators now?

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Originally Posted by aramiK

Are members actually still able to rep posts if over 100? Or is it just moderators now?

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Anyone can rep.

i still cant post =/

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Originally Posted by mikey1717

i still cant post =/

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you just did?
lol.

he means in the For sale section. Why ? Because you are a newcomer , Mikey1717.

Try and help out with links or relevant info around the forum and soon enough you will be able to sell. Actually how about this , if you are keen to sell leave this forum and pay the trading post to sell it :)

I found a tech bug in the PQ system...

- pressed the button
- left good comment
- retarded me forgot to pick an option
- pressed OK
- Got message "Thanks for adding to this users reputation..."

But it defaults to a neg rep....

On a side note, could a mod please fix the neg rep i gave this fellow.. i feel bad, was supposed to be +pq:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...8&postcount=16

Thanks :D

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Originally Posted by dsp26

I found a tech bug in the PQ system...

- pressed the button
- left good comment
- retarded me forgot to pick an option
- pressed OK
- Got message "Thanks for adding to this users reputation..."

But it defaults to a neg rep....

On a side note, could a mod please fix the neg rep i gave this fellow.. i feel bad, was supposed to be +pq:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...8&postcount=16

Thanks :D

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Noted.

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Originally Posted by claymore

Why does yours default to neg rep?????? Just click on rep button and you can see for yourself that is is default in POS rep if you don't do anything other than click and apply it will be positive rep to get neg rep the user has to POSITIVELY change to neg rep NOT DEFAULT??????

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He might be using a weird browser...

sorted fellas.. it does default to positive...

but it seems my timeout issues with my ISP caused it...

when i clicked the rep post, out of habit i usually just press OK expecting the default on positive.. from memory it didn't actually have anything selected when i pressed OK...

refreshed to try it again and said i already repped it...

ignore me.. i'm n00b :p

I got 2 rep points in my UserCP, I'm confused.

it means you made some good posts
and someone repped you for thhem
see the icon next to the green (online) circle
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
eventually after how many posts your block will turn green for making more good posts
every 100 points you get will be worth 1 green block
as you will see some people and mods have like 12 green blocks
'green block gangsters' we call them
so start repping people and people will rep you for your posts
:wave:

How many do you need to become 'Member' status?

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Originally Posted by Lukey

How many do you need to become 'Member' status?

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1 point.

I am still noob still dont get how this system works after reading several times lol...

oh wells

^ Some ppl never will :)

i kinda get it... but don't know how to check how many points i have i srolled down and i see nothing la

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Originally Posted by mars_panas

i kinda get it... but don't know how to check how many points i have i srolled down and i see nothing la

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If theres nothing listed in ur User CP, then that means you have not received ANY reps of any kind.

Simple :)

ohh... so thats how it works..

cheers

Q_BALL

here omg
its right there
or maybe you have the box collapsed
so click that arrow to expand it
or maybe you have no points at all
which you probably do because your block is still grey
if you want member status get a green block (1 point or more) and retain it for a certain period
i forgot, i think 90 days

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1...c31216d118.jpg

thank you for that beautiful infraction Qball
:p

Ok... thanks chunky for making me understand how it works and where i should look at to see if i have points :p

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Originally Posted by chunky

here omg
its right there
or maybe you have the box collapsed
so click that arrow to expand it
or maybe you have no points at all
which you probably do because your block is still grey
if you want member status get a green block (1 point or more) and retain it for a certain period
i forgot, i think 90 days

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1...c31216d118.jpg

thank you for that beautiful infraction Qball
:p

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rofl

infractions galore, lololol

and look at all those neg reps, lol

some of them arent really appropriate, like, ther should be an infraction for spam rather than a neg rep, lol

yea the spam crew was trying to get me to red
lol they were finding any crap post of mine to neg rep

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Originally Posted by chunky

yea the spam crew was trying to get me to red
lol they were finding any crap post of mine to neg rep

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If you feel it is not justified, link a mod to the post that you got the neg rep for. Seriously.

Exactly.

If anyone here feels unfairly "repped" (positive or negative) please pm a moderator to work it out.

spam in tech thread = justified

lol

DNT-CRY chukny

I got 2 points ( i think )

http://i31.tinypic.com/15dkk2g.png

you have 0 points, it says right there

because the ppl that rep you don't have enough points themselves to give you points....

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Originally Posted by Bludger

you have 0 points, it says right there

because the ppl that rep you don't have enough points themselves to give you points....

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Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

Hi Wynode,

I have submitted quite a few posts now and still not gained member access. Can you please let me know why? or what else I need to do.

Thanks

Dale

Post something helpful :)
I just looked at ur posts u have only made 4 posts including this one.

wow a member for almost 2 years and only 4 posts :confused: post useful stuff bro loll or otherwise link us to those 'queit a few posts' that u have made..

ok let me get this straight, i have some rep yeah.. does that mean i have to wait 90 days before getting member status?