Dedicated DA9 Q & A thread

its alright kids the eg civics have smaller condensers because they run a half size radiator aswell the condenser is the same size as the radiator and because ill be running a civic dual core radiator thanks to the nice lady at AAA honda. this should fix all my problems i will just extend the a/c lines to the condenser from the drier and compressor




the prob im having now is the turbo hits the bellhousing we (being my bro and i) r goin to move the flange on a angle away from the block this should fix the problem... the only downside is if its cut to much the manifold is useless and cant be salvages but not enough and itll still hit... its pretty gay but ill get it...

however it does work in my favor because ill have a little more room to run pipes and therefore make it neater i have pictures and i think u guys will like it :P

and not just the turbo the whole lot so far

You could grind away some of the webbing on the block if you're close.

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hey, were in melb can i get my vafc2 tuned with b18c, I/H/E, spoon p28 ecu? do modproject do it? i know they have no dyno but surely they can get it done.

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Access Automotive in nunawding/mithcham tune Apexi gear.

They have a dyno also.

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Originally Posted by Jarkz

Access Automotive in nunawding/mithcham tune Apexi gear.

They have a dyno also.

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sick, nice work

yeh but the intake is bout a 30 mm in the bellhousing i wouldnt b able to fit any filter or anything on it.... im modifying the manifold and give it more angle and this will move it forward and up should fix the prob

got bored today so decided to play around with the dash with red permanent marker....now i wonder if i can still see the needles at nite LOL

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i put gauges in today in my glove box they look good ive taken pics but i dont have the cable to put em on the computer...

looks like ill cut the webbings off but i angled the flange and its moved it away significantly but still close so im doing more again...

hey guys this has been asked but quickly is the inlet to the cat ( im putting extractors on tomoz/today) 2.25 inches? just dont wanna take stock ones off to find i wasted time. cheers!

no, pretty sure inlet to cat is stock 1.75 or near there.

what headers u using 'thescotty'

xforce..but im not sure if it was off a stock or aftermarket exhaust system

factory headers pipe is 2 1/4 inchs but the flange is smallerits more like 1 3/4 inch having said that the pipe goes as big as 2 1/2 inches on the OD of the pipe at the flange where it bolts to the CAT

where abouts r u measuring from im assuming ur measuring from the ID of the headers u have

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sry for bad quality pics but took it on my fone will have good ones when i get the data cable... its what ive been doin i got gauges to but i need the other camera...

extractors fit good, on the low down 2 of the bolts on the far left that hold them to the engine are snapped off (no wonder there has been a ticking noise :s) now have to get new thred! and the full exhaust system this week:) cheers for the help guys.. also do xforce ones usually come with the oxygen sensor on one of the pipes closest to the engine cause we had to re wire the sensor to be longer.

piston sparking wtf?????? get off the drugs

u should b able to drill it out and either helicoil it or u mite find itll still b ok

i have one broken on mine to


nah they usually dont come with oxygen sensors

hey guys just wondering what type of exhaust system you think this is, it was off a integra DA9 and it is fatter piping all round then the stock one? any ideas, sports or whatever? cheers guys!
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sorry bout there pics, hard to get the drift of them! cheers

fairly sure its off the first of the da9s there different to the later model ones

taht doesn't look like a stock b-pipe..mostlikely custom made..and the way the bend is done...looks like custom made by exhaust shop

so is it stock? Cause its fatter then the stock das also has a different tip.

any performance like do you recon its a custom made sports exhaust?

measure it... and compare it to urs if its bigger then urs then its a performance one coz itll b better for u hopefully

well its around 2.5 to 2.75 and yeh fatter so should be good! Thanks guys!

Its press bent so that 2.75 could come down to 2.25 in places (defeating the purpose of 2.75). it could also be from a late 80's civic based on the shape of the exhaust b pipe and muffler. Hard to tell unless you measure it to a stock DA.

its on the car, its 2.5-2.75 i havent fully measured..it was off the 91 DA and had been custom made not that long ago for it...:)
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As you can see the car is F'ucking dirty!

no worries mate, mine was 2.5 pressbent in parts to 2.25. which is perfect for our 1.8ltr n/a

I was right im the da king

lol, no, that would be me, i have the plates to prove it!

yeh but i know the most

probably!

got the bolts fixed and it sounds tones better and goes quicker:)

thats good pics of the headers??

Hey All, can a bunch of you post up pics of your exhaust under the Da9? I am trying to make a 2.25 stainless system fit that came off a Prelude or something, and have issues with the shortshifter, my current setup has a bend or 2 to get it past this, but my nerw system wont fit cause the pipe from the cat is straight, would be good to see close ups of the pipe from cat back. Cheers, Chris

whats wrong with the shifter? is it hitting on the exhaust??? because when i put a shortshifter in mine it was still a few inches away from hitting the cat.


having said this u may need to mount the exhaust lower down if it hits the shifter there not surposed to be to close to the body because u will get heat transfer through the body...

If the shifter is hitting the exhaust, either move the exhaust or the shifter. It's a prelude exhaust that doesn't fit, knowing about any other exhausts won't help you.

I easily fitted 3" pipe from the engine back straight until the fuel tank bend, with around 1cm to the short shifter's base (no heat shield). Ground clearance a little worse than stock but more than adequate. The stock bend doesn't help miss the shifter. The shifter is directly above the exhaust tunnel which is not directly inline with the B-pipe from the headers (but can be if you angle the whole lot).

Cut out a few sections and reweld so that it goes --\__/-- instead of ------, get a stock shifter, or get a new exhaust.

id go with dont b a tight ass and get the right exhaust itll b less hassle and u wont have to cut

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id go with dont b a tight ass and get the right exhaust itll b less hassle and u wont have to cut

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Don't call someone a tight arse for being resourceful. Why waste a perfectly good exhaust because it needs an hour of modifying?

As the 'DA9 king' I thought you'd be accustomed to being resourceful by now :)

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Originally Posted by A-man

id go with dont b a tight ass and get the right exhaust itll b less hassle and u wont have to cut

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Thanks for that helpful information Captain Obvious, in the end I will have paid around $350 for a complete Stainless Steel 2.25 exhaust, and that includes an X-Force cat (saving money for now)

My current exhaust does have a \____/ bend, so will just get a piece bent the same and it will be all good to go, the bends on the new system are a work of art, would be a shame not to try and get it to fit, from after the shifter its a perfect match up to and over the suspension, and will go nicely to my Tanabe SS muffler (dont want to use the one on the new system as its a 4 inch tip....

Thanks for all the people who have given positive advice.

Cheers

Tseesinn

i dont see 350 bucks worth salvaging for a old exhaust system... to be honest its not worth the headache trying to get something to fit when u can get a new one for that price... thats y i said ur a tight ass not because ur trying to make something else fit....


the people who do exhaust systems charge bugger all for that kind of thing and for the work they do its crazy he would agree with me u have to cut and weld different pipes etc.


thats all im saying

I still can't believe you're advocating getting a whole new exhaust instead of modifying a small section of his current exhaust - where is the advantage? The very most he should do is take the prelude exhaust to an exhaust shop and get them to modify it for an hour's pay.

It is irritating me the emphasis you are placing on the difficulty of modifying a piece of steel tubing. Headache? Hassle? If a few cuts and 3 welds brings you to your knees, perhaps it's time to scrap the turbo project, the DA9 is an interesting beast to boost.

my turbo is done...


and i do this shit for a living saying that thats y i wouldnt waste time with exhaust pipes because its a shit job...

thats y u pay the grubby guy at the exhaust shop to stuff around with either it be reuse an exhaust or make a new one... its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other....

i take it u dont weld often either?? unless u do it all the time u wont get a weld like the guys at the exhaust shop or a boilermaker will thats where ur headaches r.. welding pipe is shit

u make it out to be simple shit but its an art weather u use new or old materials (if old theres more work in prep anyways)

have u got any pics for us then???

He said it fits perfectly except for the shifter section. Perhaps if he had a stock shifter it wouldn't rub, but that's not the point - it's just one section! Why replace the whole exhaust when the same shop could just fix one section. Just think it's a waste of money but do as you wish.

get a vid of the turbo setup and a vid of driving it Aman

my short shifter is the same underneath the car how is urs lower?

im not arguing with u guys over a shitty exhaust system who gives a ****... ive done that before with my old supra and i took the old exhaust and said fix it and ill pick it up in a hr i paid 80 bucks it was done and i drove away and looked way better then anything i could weld and i was happy with it... its not hard

dont get carried away with it mate its done now and he shelled out to get it done i wouldve done the same thing so good on him... now move on


as for my turbo setup i need the exhaust done and im getting it done at a shop thats y no vids

If it's the same underneath the car then it gets it shortness from simply reducing the height of the knob, thus making it much lower than stock. To retain the stock shifter location in the cabin, you need to extend the shifter between the pivot and the shifter rod. Some shifters do both and have a very short throw (chinese ebay shifters for example).

Depends on the shortshifter...

Some have the pivot ball higher or lower making the bottom sit lower and touch the pipe..

that makes sense...

i duno if u guys have changed urs but the one i have u put brass spacers in the rod and that gives u smaller h pattern but keeps the throw the same... however making it shorter or lowering the pivot point fixes it....

EXCEPT shortening the shifter will/can give u harder to change gears because its got less leverage

hey guys i have the 2.5" exhaust with extractors.was just wondering how much power the stock cat is taking away from the extractors and exhaust? cheers also wat other cats fit on our DA's that would make it better? cheers

if ur gonna change the cat anyways... bust it through so its empty and then compare before and after... the hi flow cats r about the same as no cat.. but i dont think u would notice much difference to be honest.


having said that its a double edge sword itll give u more flow for sure (with no cat) but u might not get back pressure and will loose power because of it.... not to mention the smell u get from no cat either

im going through this with a mate of mine and his xr6 turbo...

u might find that cat might be alrite... i heard u can wrap the cats and get them hotter and they will work better but dont quote me on this...

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hey guys i have the 2.5" exhaust with extractors.was just wondering how much power the stock cat is taking away from the extractors and exhaust? cheers also wat other cats fit on our DA's that would make it better? cheers

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i have a emptied stock cat if u really want to do a comparison, we can trade for the day, for research purposes.

pm me

Hey guys, I just stumbled accross this thread and i love it.

I've got a DA9 with a 1998 GSR B18C, recently rebuilt. Anyway i'm currently in the process of overhauling my car. Everything in my car is standard apart from the mechanical side of things and being a 1990 model car it's all starting to make horrid noises.

Soooooooo does anyone here have any suggestions for new suspension. My stock suspension is starting to creek and groan on every little bump and it's really annoying. I'm not looking to take my car racing or anything like that, my car is just to get me around but i would like to have it corner a little better and sit a little lower than stock. So i was looking around the $800 or less mark for suspension.

Also does anyone have or know of a DA9 that's being sold for parts of selling parts?
My driver side seat is starting to tear a little and the rails aren't solid so the seat rocks with about an inch movement. lol or maybe there's some nice after market seats and rails i could snatch up from somewhere.. hehe any suggestions on these would be muchly appreciated :)

- Scott

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Hey guys, I just stumbled accross this thread and i love it.

I've got a DA9 with a 1998 GSR B18C, recently rebuilt. Anyway i'm currently in the process of overhauling my car. Everything in my car is standard apart from the mechanical side of things and being a 1990 model car it's all starting to make horrid noises.

Soooooooo does anyone here have any suggestions for new suspension. My stock suspension is starting to creek and groan on every little bump and it's really annoying. I'm not looking to take my car racing or anything like that, my car is just to get me around but i would like to have it corner a little better and sit a little lower than stock. So i was looking around the $800 or less mark for suspension.

Also does anyone have or know of a DA9 that's being sold for parts of selling parts?
My driver side seat is starting to tear a little and the rails aren't solid so the seat rocks with about an inch movement. lol or maybe there's some nice after market seats and rails i could snatch up from somewhere.. hehe any suggestions on these would be muchly appreciated :)

- Scott

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i have same sort of combonation, pulls great and is so fun to drive!

any have a import da9 k-frame that i can have? any wrecks lying around?

you could pick up a set of d2 coilovers for close to that sort of money, have a look on ebay, however I've never used them, so can't really say much for or against them.
the most common/recommended combination is koni yellow shockabsorbers paired with some lowering springs.
chances are that most of the 'noises' are coming from your bushings, and some lithium grease could quieten it down a bit.

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Originally Posted by b18cfreak

Hey guys, I just stumbled accross this thread and i love it.

I've got a DA9 with a 1998 GSR B18C, recently rebuilt. Anyway i'm currently in the process of overhauling my car. Everything in my car is standard apart from the mechanical side of things and being a 1990 model car it's all starting to make horrid noises.

Soooooooo does anyone here have any suggestions for new suspension. My stock suspension is starting to creek and groan on every little bump and it's really annoying. I'm not looking to take my car racing or anything like that, my car is just to get me around but i would like to have it corner a little better and sit a little lower than stock. So i was looking around the $800 or less mark for suspension.

Also does anyone have or know of a DA9 that's being sold for parts of selling parts?
My driver side seat is starting to tear a little and the rails aren't solid so the seat rocks with about an inch movement. lol or maybe there's some nice after market seats and rails i could snatch up from somewhere.. hehe any suggestions on these would be muchly appreciated :)

- Scott

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i have a emptied stock cat if u really want to do a comparison, we can trade for the day, for research purposes.

pm me

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the only thing is that the cat on the car atm i couldnt get off when i piucked the system up and it is bulted on very very tight..

use some wd40 on it itll help... but usually the exhaust systems r all rusted and stuffed mine was...

ive heard the konis r good aswell...

u can usually get a rebushing kit off ebay for a good price hey and depends if ull do it urself or not u can save alot of money... and that way its overhauled ur full suspension and u wont have to worry bout regreasing stuff...

as for the seats i was told wrx seats look good in da9s :P and are plentiful to... i need to do my seat real bad its horrible i hate it...

hehe, thanks for the replys. I'll look into the konis sometime later in the week when i get some spare time. lol also turns out a fair bit of the creaking noise from the rear end wasn't suspension anyway, it was actually my sub box rubbing against the side of the boot :o lolol my bad. BUT there's still noise from the suspension when i go over speed humps etc so i'm definately getting it changed.

On another note. I need to get my car tuned because the ecu i have once the car is warmed up, if i turn it off and leave it for a little bit and start it up and drive and it hasn't gone completely cold yet then it doesn't cruise at a constant speed properly, it jolts as if i'v suddenly taken my foot compeltely off the accelerator (compression stopping) and then if i give it slightly more on the throttle it kicks back and realises the tb isn't closed rofl.

So before i spend money on a tune i want to get cams changed in my car. Does anyone know where i can get some cams? ITR cams would be cool. But maybe a little more aggressive if i could. hehe thanks in advance guys :)

how much is a decent tune? ive been wanting to look into it to:)

pointless on a stock ecu....

and a stock b18a

his is different its vtec so u can get alot of aftermarket aids for tuning. ie. vafcs etc.


but mine does that sometimes its a little jerky first off try taking the throttle body off and cleaning it... because theres a sender on the throttle body that can get clogged up and let this happen.. try that first and the other obvious things maybe a new fuel filter aswell...

what happens is the pcv from the valve cover obviously lets the oil vapour go straight into the intake manifold then burnt up by the engine... because of this it clogs shit up and thats what happens... happens aswell sometimes when u get engine hunting...

yah i had engine hunting on my both my old engine and again with the new one because of shit in the tb and the big plastic screw thing being loose.

Naw this is definately a tune issue, apparently it's a issue with an old software version on the S200 ecu. But anyway i'll get it all sorted out pretty soon, just wondering on what kinda cams to look at, i would go some stock ITR but i like the idea of gettin something a little more aggressive.

can u get ur stock ones reground???

that way u can get a custom lobe

depends what u want.. i think obviously u wont high lift and long duration on the non vtec...

without looking at them in detail maybe check what skunk2 do or something


those s200 can u just do a software upgrade??? i thought u were running factory ecu... what other goodies does ur teg have

are the spoon obd1 ecu's on ebay america wearth looking into? cause theres some guy "jdmtuning.." someshit like that user name on ebay america selling obd1 spoon ecu's for 92 integras and preludes etc....they look stock but? has anyone seen them or watever?

don't think they'll do anything for a stock b18a eng man

unless u have aftermarket cams and cam gears...

I have a aus spoon ecu, not 100% sure but a little richer, higher rev limited and slightly diff timing. But that's on my b18c not stock b18a. Especially non- vtec I wouldn't think jt did much.

those spoon ecu are only for vtec engines yeah? i dun think they'd build anything for...nonvtec...

but i'd like to see if there is anything for b18a...to lift the rev limiter..i need a bit more rev on each gear for winton....everytime i come to a corner i hit the limit..and when i change to higher gears it bogs down...i know i could get better gear ratio to fix it..but...not worth spending on it now for this engine..maybe when i get another eng...

[QUOTE=Spoon DA9R;1849788]those spoon ecu are only for vtec engines yeah? i dun think they'd build anything for...nonvtec...

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nah on the american ebay theres spoon ecus for non vtec b18a integra 92-93's... see for yourself:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...053758648&rd=1

and there the ones im asking if they are stock ecu chipped or whatever? (i.e scam or not?)..if they are any good we could all put in for postage for one each? if not meh!

hey ive got a b18b2 in my 89 LS does that mean i have an obd2? or is it an ob1?

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can u get ur stock ones reground???

that way u can get a custom lobe

depends what u want.. i think obviously u wont high lift and long duration on the non vtec...

without looking at them in detail maybe check what skunk2 do or something


those s200 can u just do a software upgrade??? i thought u were running factory ecu... what other goodies does ur teg have

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hehe, yeah i don't want reground cams, i hear that it's not a good way to go, best off with new after market cams. I been looking at some Toda Racing B18C Spec B camshafts.

lol on my engine i have ported head, adjustable cam gears, lightened flywheel, complete exhaust with 4 - 2 - 1 stainless headers with k&n filter. And that's about it. So to complete it pretty much cams and tune. :P

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Originally Posted by thescotty

nah on the american ebay theres spoon ecus for non vtec b18a integra 92-93's... see for yourself:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...053758648&rd=1

and there the ones im asking if they are stock ecu chipped or whatever? (i.e scam or not?)..if they are any good we could all put in for postage for one each? if not meh!

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all they do is change or rev limit..i dun think they would be able to do anything else...spoon never made anything for non vtec..so it'll be some backyard stuff like...making a chip themselves then put in a stock ecu....

ok so i guess its just shit in an ecu.... better off sourcing a place that can tune my ecu or get a full built ecu....just needa a lil more power! but dunno what to get done! suggestions guys?

respect man thats a mint setup...


how much is the 'spoon' ecu??? because u can get a e-manage or similar for fairly cheap

i dont like those bolt on aftermarket ecus etc. depending on the type though because every engine is different and thats why u have a ecu and for example headers when u change them the ecu adjusts its settings for the headers so making it run richer wiont give u more power... and a higher rev limit on ur car wont help u either because its not designed to rev harder

u can spend that money on better mods and its only really when u do cams (even still u dont usually have to change em theres ways around) or injectors or nitrous or something u know....


ive seen a 1jz-gte mines tuned ecu and it was just taped on the side and stamped that mines had tampered with it it was better removed fuel cut, rev limit, speed limit etc. thats the only real reason y i would change it

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respect man thats a mint setup...


how much is the 'spoon' ecu??? because u can get a e-manage or similar for fairly cheap

i dont like those bolt on aftermarket ecus etc. depending on the type though because every engine is different and thats why u have a ecu and for example headers when u change them the ecu adjusts its settings for the headers so making it run richer wiont give u more power... and a higher rev limit on ur car wont help u either because its not designed to rev harder

u can spend that money on better mods and its only really when u do cams (even still u dont usually have to change em theres ways around) or injectors or nitrous or something u know....


ive seen a 1jz-gte mines tuned ecu and it was just taped on the side and stamped that mines had tampered with it it was better removed fuel cut, rev limit, speed limit etc. thats the only real reason y i would change it

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agree to that...but in my case...i just need it to rev a bit longer until i get outta the corner than change gear..rather than stuck in the middle of the corner..

yeh i know what ur saying i agree i hate doing the same thing u wish u had just a little more so it didnt bog down... it sounds silly but its only for a half second or something and it does help

yeah...specially when u r in the momentum of fly through the corner...as u clip the apex u want to power out...then...rev limit kick in.....

Hi guys,

Was wondering if anyone had done DA9 chassis strengthening? Like spot weld or front lower brace (also known as lower tie bar i assume?) Any brands for this?

How about strut bar? I've been looking for one but to no avail... Those that i found are adjustable ones which would be of much help... anyone here can recommend me?!

Thanks!

someone ask this question a while back...

for front lower tie u can use cusco for EF, as for the rear i saw some on skunk2 web site..

strut bar cusco has one for the front, jdmyard has them,

for the rear...some of the dc2 or eg would fit...

I'm planning on getting a tint on my gunmetal grey integra

I'm thinking maybe a 5% tint would be nice. Has anyone done this? Hows the driving visibility?

i got 21 and thats not legal but it looks mint i rekon dark tint looks good on da9s having said that its not really that bad with visibility... FARK thats dark i only just relieased


:P

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someone ask this question a while back...

for front lower tie u can use cusco for EF, as for the rear i saw some on skunk2 web site..

strut bar cusco has one for the front, jdmyard has them,

for the rear...some of the dc2 or eg would fit...

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Thanks

The DA9 chassis is a big floppy dick in the scheme of things. You need more than bolt in bars to harden it up.

I lowered the front of my chassis onto jack stands the other day. The front cross member dropped approximately 5mm further, after the stands had taken weight of the car - that is lowering slowly under the static weight of the car! Imagine how much it will flex when I stand on the brakes off the main straight at 170kph!

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i got 21 and thats not legal but it looks mint i rekon dark tint looks good on da9s having said that its not really that bad with visibility... FARK thats dark i only just relieased


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Thanks for the advice im gonna go to the tint shops and check to see if they have any samples up so i can see for myself.

I asked around and heard 5% is pretty dark i might opt for the 15%.

I'll post some pics once i get it done =]