Heya...........wondering if anyone has bought a CU in the last couple of weeks since the car market started to cut prices to move stock?
imported cars are so screwed.........no room on margin side and cost side just increased by heaps..........
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Heya...........wondering if anyone has bought a CU in the last couple of weeks since the car market started to cut prices to move stock?
imported cars are so screwed.........no room on margin side and cost side just increased by heaps..........
Aussie dollar dieing in the ass doesn't help. I can't see them dropping the price.
hey MKI4EVA
i bought my black euro standard cu2 last week, and there wasn't much give on price.
Southside Honda in Brisbane was really busy when I was there, so busy that I had to book a time to come in.
Since I was there, 3 people had bought Jazz's and two others bought the new Accord Euro.
And that's in the same WEEK!
It must be used cars that are feeling the crunch...
Tried other dealers, they are just as busy.
So as far as I'm concerned the car market hasn't really budged in regards to Honda's in brissie.
Dunno about Sydney, but I only managed to shave a couple of grand of the final price.
Which was decent.
As Type R Positive said the Aussie dollar is giving us less bang for our buck, and so all I can say is if you like it, and you have enough money, buy it. Sure look around, and get some prices, but I can only see a few hundred or a grand being cut of the final price over the next 12 months. If your lucky you might persuade them to throw in some floor mats, boot liner, 12 month rego, and a full tank of petrol...
At least its a start right?
Things look like they have sorted peaked at the moment. Thats my opinion.
That's what I did. I think I got my 6mt base for $35k drive away too?Quote:
Originally Posted by nesterjester
interesting.........looks like theres no diff buying early then..........koolies......was just curious.
they are lucky that the CU2 is a new model. Hondas generally don't discount much anyway.
I just bought a Turbo Jetta and got $9000 off the rrp drive away price. Awesome deal!
Got the car serviced yesterday, Honda is doing the '08 run out sale thingy, but didn't ask what price for the CU2. Honda website says nothing....
oh yea was that your 1000km service?
Gonna get mine next sat.
nah, 10,000. I had my car for like nearly 6 months now.....
may i ask how much was your service if you dont mind.... ?
$160. Ridiculous for just an oil change......
They usually charge 240 in sydney for 10,000kmQuote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Wow! 4 litres of oil and a filter......Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Anyone else managed to get a good deal on the CU2? I'd like to see what others are paying to get a good idea of where to start bargaining at.
A Honda dealer in Melbourne quoted me 'less than $40,000- on the road' for a new CU2 Luxury manual over the phone yesterday. Only problem was that it was only a red or white model as that was what they had in stock.
Go Milano Red!! Best colour!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Just saw the new price list for CU2 Euros, they increase in price by $2k on 6 Jan 09 onwards accross the whole range. Wonder if this means bigger discounts?
or smaller discounts!?Quote:
Originally Posted by carmen
Thats a really good deal, I'm after a a standard 6spd and can't find anyone willing to go under $34,000 in SYD :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
Just got a CU2 standard Auto for $37,400 drive away. Full tank of fuel and floor mats was all i could get them to throw in, tried for window tint as well but no luck. I also believe i got top $$$$ on trade.
Mine was $36k with mats, boot liner, 12 month rego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensei
$34k is bloody cheap. ;)
This is weird - you guys are paying more than what many paid for the CL9 when it was first released. And the CU2 is cheaper with its $32,990 entry + ORC! Sounds like dealers are trying to protect margins at all cost.
I paid $40276 drive away when i bought my CL9 lux manual back in 04 and the retail price was $40800. You just need to speak to the manager straight away :)
lol if the cars are going up in price i would say discounts would remain the same, only 2k more than now.
I paid $43,500 for my 05 lux auto which included:
- paint protection
-enviro shield
- underbody sound deadning
- mats
- boot tray liner
- boot lip matt
- aftermarket navman supplied and fitted by honda with a custom cradle and second cigarette lighter output installed behind the centre console
- all on road costs paid as well
I think I got a pretty good deal
Update:Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I got quoted $34,500 out the door for a Standard Euro Auto....starting to look better.
I paid $43,000 for my 07 Jan(1st shipment for black on black) lux auto which included:
- paint protection
-enviro shield
- underbody sound deadning
- mats
- boot tray liner
- boot lip matt
- tints
- all on road costs
- 5 years wannrenty
- 5 roadside assistant
- leather & vinal protection
- Honda sports pedals
- Full Tank of petrol
- and they deliveried to my house on truck with a bottle of champeng
rofl damn!Quote:
Originally Posted by devilians
good catch!
but alas, not a CU2....
Unfortunately while it looks good the resale is rubbish on Milano Red. Dealers pay really low for the Milano Red. If you want to sell later you have to go private and hope for a buyer who wants the color specifically.
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Originally Posted by tritty
I don't see too many MR around. Best resale would have to be silver wouldn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Star
I paid $40500 for CL9 Lux AUTO NAVI Euro, tinted windows, Bluetooth Phone, Matts, Boot liner, Paint protector all included.
Build date of the car is MY08. January 08. Bougth it in May, great car. CU2 was coming out but i figured this was as good a dela as i was going to get anywhere for a car of this quality :)
Well look at it this way, From 1st Jan 2010 there is a Import Car Tariff REDUCTION from the current 10% down to 5% duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by carmen
So wait until next year and the Deals will just be a little bit better than now. What do you guys think?
Hi Phillip how are you?:wave:.The dealers don't seem to pass on tariff reductions,they usually add a few more options to the car and keep the price the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedBird
I think you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I think you're right!Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Expeience tells me silver & white have the best resale values, but in saying that, condition also plays a large part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
IMO, the CU2 Buran Silver is a much nicer silver than the CL9 Alabaster Silver but the CL9 Arctic Blue is nicer than the CU2 Cobalt Blue.
Well I got my rattling CU2 Auto Lux, with mats, bootliner, bluetooth, 5 year warranty etc, in silver, on road, $43,700...in August with a bonus free rattle in the engine, then the parcel shelf due to a weld going, then a rattle in the speaker, which they fixed, but left a screw out and loose under the passenger side window control, that I fixed myself rather than get the Honda muppets to waste more of my time...anyone want to buy my car??
You make it sound like it's only worth $15K now. It's taken a long time for the CU2 to come on sale in Japan. As I've said before, the rest of the world is Honda's guinea pig. Once sorted, they started selling in Japan where any defects would have required Honda bosses to commit Harikiri.
33.2K Drive away black manual base model 08 euro. northside brissy. with mats and peds and nothing else
That be a great price mate! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by arthhtra
Well the rattle is in the parcel shelf again, so back to Honda for the 4th time in 4 months...so yes the time it takes to take it to Honda at a business cost point of view makes this a very expensive POS.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Oh and also the rattle in the passenger front door, could not be "found" by my local Honda dealer, but alas, I removed the power window controls after locating the approx source of the problem, and low and behold a screw was just sitting there, obviously NOT screwed in, seems the morons, or as they like to be called "technicians" left this off after checking the passnger side speaker...
In all my years of owning cars, this car is a bigger POS than my 1985 VK commodore that was put together by monkeys and not machines. To say that the new CU2 that I own is worth $15K is probably close to how much you would expect to pay for a car with this many issues, but alas, Honda has rested on its laurels for a while and now its coming to fruition, what happened to if we don't race crap all through indy, and now they are out of F1...its all bullshit, the whole organisation and the products it produces are a joke, and I will endevour to ensure that ALL potential customers become aware of this!!
I find your posts are becoming more humorous by the day, trying to compare a VK dunnydore with a CU2......get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobjones
OH.....and Honda withdrawing from F! has absolutely nothing to do with the world financial crisis, or for that matter talk of F1 using a controlled (1 make)
engine in the near future. Heaven forbid even Ferrari is talking about withdrawing from F1.
I wonder what your reaction would be if you had a major problem.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101747
You might want to check that againQuote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
"We had no choice in the current financial conditions."
HONDA CEO Takeo Fukui said it in press realse
Honday Spend over $300M in 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by devilians
That was my point, Honda withdrawing from F1 has to do with the world financial crisis and nothing else.
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
D:Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
5 chars
Sarcasm....... I picked it up.
I probably shouldn't of posted, but couldn't help myself.....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
As it stands my 1985 Group A SS currently has no rattles, has never had a rattle and has never had an engine problem, and this from a car that is now 23 years old, so yes it is a GOOD comparison, why, well I will spell it out for you seeing as it appears you need it...
The Euro will be back on Honda 4 times in 4 months, I am very reluctant to see how many more problem occur in the next 4 years let alone the POS even lasting 23 years...
Yes I agree horses for courses, but I was of the belief that Honda had a good repuation for build quility and also being at the forefront of small capacity engine technology including reliability. This is now somewhat quesitonable. I will also follow you to your post in other threads and answer them in more detail, but alas, if this is not a major problem then what is, does the car have to have the engine cease with my wife driving it before some intellectual pimy such as yourself will call it a major problem...please, go back under your rock and stay there.
Is that all? Mine went back seven times in less then 3 monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobjones
Me too and i am already seriously considering getting rid of it. There is no way i would classify my Honda as a "quality" car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobjones
Subaru here i come.....
[QUOTE=Bobjones;2058187]Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.
As it stands my 1985 Group A SS currently has no rattles, has never had a rattle and has never had an engine problem, and this from a car that is now 23 years old, so yes it is a GOOD comparison, why, well I will spell it out for you seeing as it appears you need it...
The Euro will be back on Honda 4 times in 4 months, I am very reluctant to see how many more problem occur in the next 4 years let alone the POS even lasting 23 years...
Yes I agree horses for courses, but I was of the belief that Honda had a good repuation for build quility and also being at the forefront of small capacity engine technology including reliability. This is now somewhat quesitonable. I will also follow you to your post in other threads and answer them in more detail, but alas, if this is not a major problem then what is, does the car have to have the engine cease with my wife driving it before some intellectual pimy such as yourself will call it a major problem...please, go back under your rock and stay there.[/QUOT
Well seeing as the others have already picked on your for your lack of thought with Honda's F1 withdrawal all I can do is merely add to your downfall.
I can't help it if many didn't read this the way it was intended....but Type R did...... it was an off the cuff sarcastic remark and i am surprised more didn't pick it up.
The bottom line Bob is we are buying budget cars and expect them to be faultless. It doesn't matter if we buy a budget Kia Rio or spend several hundred thousand dollars on an exotic, all cars have faults and they always will.....I would love an F430 Ferrari as i am sure many would, but there have been several cases of these cars catching fire while being driven......yet i would still buy 1 if I had the $$$$.
There is an old saying that no one should buy the first of a new model as it takes time to iron out any bugs, but we still do. Manufacturers give warranty for a reason.....that being to fix any problems that may occur. Unfortunately in our case we have imported cars, therefore a fix has to be approved by the parent company and this takes time (Honda Australia has to wait for an answer from Honda in Japan). Your complaint has been registered with Honda Australia who have apparently received several complaints, yet for the time being their hands are tied. Once they receive a fix (however long it takes) you will be notified.
If this turns out to be a timing chain rattle as i suspect, it is something that has effected a very small percentage of "K Series" engines throughout the Honda range & there are many variations of this Engine. The Cylinder Head on the K24Z3 Engine fitted to the new CU2 Euro is a completely new design, so any minor problems with it will filter back to Honda Japan who will find a remedy, It is not a major problem that will effect engine life.
As for body rattles, they are not generally a warrantable item, however dealers generally try to rectify them as goodwill. Unfortunately these repairs are generally given to apprentices to try and sort out which is rarely successful. I have no idea if you had your windows tinted, but if you did consider that door trims, speakers, and rear parcel shelf are removed for the tinting to be done. They are rarely reassembled to factory standard as often retaining clips are broken, screws left loose or not replaced etc. 1 reason I would never have windows tinted.
When I buy a car the important things i kook for are build quality, reliability, economy & resale value. For the price there is very little on the market that comes close to Honda & you can definitely discount falcadores along with many other makes.
Let me tell you about a crazy old man in my family who owned a Toyota Prado in concourse condition. He wanted to downsize due to fuel costs even though he only did 5000k a year. I told him he was crazy to think about it, but if he wanted a sub $40K car he could not go past a Euro. So he got 1, only to trade it again after 1400km because it was too small. What did he buy? A 66K Subaru Tribeca. 600km later he lost the engine, as it turned out the crown of number 4 piston separated from the little end. That is what I consider a problem and he is now into his 4th week without a car.
I am the proud owner of a CU2 Euro and regardless of what you might say i don't believe i could buy a better car for the money. It is the 4th Honda i have owned - the previous 3 have done over 1 million trouble free km. Oh by the way i do not work for Honda.
It is not often i visit this forum these days, but read several postings today. I know nothing at all about the new Accord Euro. I just wanted to give my thoughts on Buddah's Postings. Several years ago i knew him personally when he modified my 93 Prelude SI. 1 thing i do know is that he was well known in Sydney for Honda servicing and performance Modifications.
Hey Buddah, I thought you had a current model Civic, how come you got rid of it so soon? Looks like you have ANOTHER Accord eh. PM me your email pls
Buy a current model Holden Bob, and then see how good the Honda is.
They don't make em like they used too..........
I'm with Buddah on this one.I too believe it's a timing chain and or tensioner issue.
But seems weird that it is only with the auto?
Mines been nothing but awesome, just like my CL9 used to be.
Type R.....that would be like comparing Apples (Euro) with Cow Dung (Dunnydore), but then again probably more suited to Mr JonesQuote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Hey Godiva, Long time no hear. I did Have a FD civic for a few years. Unfortunately i Parked it in the wrong place and it became filling for a Commodore Sandwich.....some stupid female reversed into it after lighting up her rear tyres in reverse. I was worried about transmission damage after being pushed backwards while in park so decided to get another Accord. PM sentQuote:
Originally Posted by godiva
Perhaps you neglected to mention that you got Corporate Plus and the additional factory support on fleet purchases. Let's not lead people to believe that you get that off retail shall we?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdongers
But what he says is true....Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Honda don't discount. I get fleet discounts and stuff through work, but get stuff all for Honda.
It is nearly embarrasing the discount I got off my Toyota Prado VX TD, like $15k+ :)
BTW, anyone can go through a car broker and get fleet discount. ;)
No they can't. Brokers are middle men that tell you they have buying power. They charge both the buyer and the seller and EVERY SINGLE TIME you can buy it cheaper dealing direct with the dealer. Brokers do NOT get fleet discounts. The buyer does. Most manufacturers offer corporate business because it encourages incremental sales through word of mouth. They do require some form of doucment that states employment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
try again....Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Thanks in advance for elaborating. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
OK, I will elaborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Anyone can buy a car through a car broker and get fleet discount pricing. ;)
No they can't. I hope my 6 years industry experience has more weight than your unsubstantiated heresay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I would agree with m0nty ITR with respect to car brokers in my limited experience.
When buying my Euro (was 3 years ago) tried a couple of brokers and they quoted me nothing special at all (and one seemed to be pi**ed off he had couldn't close the deal in one call). Was able to get a far better deal by simple negotiation with the dealer direct.
The impression I formed was that Honda don't do fleet discounts, versus Toyota, Holden etc. do.
not too long now before we place our oder............fark to think it's been almost 6months of tyre kicking.........hahhaha.
gonna get TOW BAR y'alllllllllllllllllll. : ).
I already said Honda don't do stuff all...... read my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ok2
What as? Used car salesman?Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Unsubstantiated with my missus working for Toyota. ;)
Sales manager at a Volkswagen dealer for 4 of those years. Childish retorts just make you look the bigger fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
My dealer principal has had a Toyota dealership for over 20 years and before that Ford for 10 years. He owns the largest and most successful Lexus dealership in the southern hemisphere (that includes the factory owned Sydney City Lexus) and would spend his time playing Golf with people like John Rocka. But I'm sure you're wife knows who he is. ;)
What exactly does your "missus" do for Toyota when you live in Perth?
Please lets not veer into personal attacks. With my limited experience with brokers I also say they are useless. Got way less than he could just by talking with dealer.
Brokers might work on "common" brands willing to discount but Honda doesn't discount much. Brokers don't work at all in Darwin because there is only one dealer for each brand and most dealers sell more than one brand; so no competition. I contacted a broker once and all he did was call my local dealer because there was no advantage for him to sell me a car sourced from Sydney that then had to be freighted 4,000km.
A lot of people here go south to buy something like a Landcruiser because they can get an instant discount of around $8K; which also pays for their holiday to get the car and they have change left over.
Yeah i agree,brokers work best on the more common brands that offer fleet discounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
lol well done Type R positive u got ownd.
now wat does ur mrs do at toyota? regos?
Owned?
Google "car broker fleet discount" mate, and you just might learn something.
Missus was a finance manager before going to westpac if you must really know.
And no, she didn't play golf with anyone, if that matters as well.
Because a car broker tells you the get fleet discounts you believe them? Imagine if they posted the truth. Would you use them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Here at XYZ car brokers we charge the dealers a referral fee, sometimes up to $2,000 and in some instances the customers too. That means the "fleet discount" we get you is eaten up and you could've bought it cheaper from the dealer anyway.
For the record, John Rocka is CEO of Toyota Australia. But I wouldn't expect a former business manager to know that, or how car broker services work. Both UNLS1 and myself have years of motor sales experience between us. Every other sales person in the industry will tell you the same. They'd rather sell direct to customers than to brokers and they could get it cheaper without a broker anyway.
For the record, John Rocka is CEO of Toyota Australia. But I wouldn't expect a former business manager to know that, or how car broker services work.
Who is John Rocka? According to the Toyota Australia website, the Australian CEO is Max Yasuda. The Lexus CEO is John Roca. Maybe with all of the experience, you have gotten confused somewhere?
One and the same. John Roca was the MD of Toyota before Lexus from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
At the end of the day I do know how car brokers work because they have bought cars from me. they DO charge referral fees and do NOT get fleet discounts regardless of what they tell people on their websites.
Hi Guys,
I’m quite new to the forum. I am currently in the process of closing the deal on a brand new Accord luxury. I got a quote for $37,489 drive away. This is on a company fleet deal.
Cheers,
Dilan
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanja
Hmm strong 1st post and join date.
saw euro prices has gone up by $1k... but you get free CTP, Rego, 5 yr warranty, 5 yr roadside assist for now.