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Sup Guys..
Looking at getting my first car soon :thumbsup: But I'm a little stumped..
I've pretty much narrowed it down to a Vti-r Teggy, a vti-r ek civic, or a del sol.
Opinions? Suggestions for any other car? Preferable Dohc with vtec... But will consider none the less. Price limit about 6-7.
They're all good options IMO, it really depends on what looks best to you or what you LIKE the most. Their performance will probably be very similar in terms of handling and power.
I think the DC2 looks the best, followed by the EK4 (although I would prefer an EG6 to an EK4). EG2 has never really interested me as far as CRX's are concerned - I would prefer an EF8 (and I own one booya!).
Man you're not gonna get a decent vti-r for 6-7k. It's gonna be thrashed, high km or repairable write-off or something.
But out of the 3, vti-r teggy! biased of course :P
Yup what dougie sed, depends on what you like the most. DC2 would me abit more roomier than the ek and crx so that would be easier if you got passengers etc imo. All 3 cars have fairly good aftermarket support so lots to choose from if your planning to mod it. If it was me i would choose the ek4, for some reason they look hot lol what about a bb6 prelude vti-r? There should be some within your price range.
Hahahaha Just thinking about somthing with a good engine from factory, as i will be on p's... Otherwise i would engine swap an eg5 :PQuote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
Hahaha yeah i would save up a bit more if i got a teggy... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
Yeah not really worried about passengers, i ain't no taxi ;) But yeah, I like the ek4 the best, but would need one with b16a from factory... as can't do engine swaps :/ Not really a fan of the prelude. I don't know why, they just haven't really appealed to me :3Quote:
Originally Posted by DTN
Drive around in a teg with me ;) Hahaha
If you get a VTi-R teg def try get a facelift one 98+ looks much cleaned and dual airbag so you and passenger are safer..:)
But I'd be mainly worrying about looking better ;)
I'd go teg but the again bias.. I got a type R .. Actually even look int an EM1 I really like those lil things .. If modded right they look awesome..
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He won't get an EM1 for $6-7k. He's going to struggle to get a DC2 or EK4. Del Sol you can get for that price range if you look hard enough.
The cars you have selected are all good options. IMO don't buy an EG5 and engine swap it. You'll spend much more than $6-7k total. Just start with somebody that already has a good potential, or look for a clean car that's already been legitimately and legally engine-swapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicEGSI
EK has the most room, followed by DC, then Del Sol.
I might even end up getting more than 6-7k thats just what i have now :3 Really keen on getting a del sol lately, but there isn't much available. And can't get one that is engine swapped, as i can't have a mod plate, because will be on my p's, and that shit is illegal D: know anyone who wants to get rid of a del sol in qld for like 7k? ;)
1+ for DelSol - Its got a targa top for summer, zippy with the b16a good gearbox good fuel economy, quite rare and uncommon (most people always ask what car i have )
1+ for DC2 - Its got a nice B18C so easily modified to go quick, great aftermarket and parts support (can use parts from dc2r etc),
Agreed. I was going to get a type R teg, but funds weren't as readily available as i thought >.<
It's a waste of money buying a Type R as a first car.
What's wrong with a type R as a first car? I've never driven one but i'm assuming it'd be amazing
Type R would be great as a first car!! I know everyone thinks that a p-plater with a powerful car = try to be a hero, but i wouldn't try and be some maddog in an xr6 there daddy bought them ^_^
Loooool an R isnt that powerful compared to what some P platers are driving these days...
Yeah, a Type R isn't powerful, but that doesn't stop kids from thinking they're race drivers and under-steering into a tree. This can happen in any car, sure, but it's more likely to happen if someone is driving a supposedly fast car. An XR6 is also a dangerous proposition. Kids should be made to drive something more sedate.
That issue aside, you're more likely to write your first car off than any other, and it's better to wreck something other than a poor Type R. I see girls with rich parents driving their new Audi TTs, and I wonder how long that car will last before its third low-speed collision.
I you get De sol or Teg +P plate. You'll get raped by insurance, pulled over by cops every 1/4 mile and crash when the vtec kicks in. Youll suffer the same on civvies but at least cheaper to insure...
Lol thats funny cos one of my best friends is driving her dads audi turbo. im pretty sure she cant even legally drive it but they only got one car in the family. It's fkn quick... had trouble keeping up just driving normally on the roads. It hits 60 five times faster than me with half as much throttleQuote:
Originally Posted by Indie
I've got teg +p plate, never been pulled? maybe it's a QLD thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
Type R is a sick car. Not just for power, but for handling. Best FWD handling car going around back in the 90's and it would give all modern FWD's a run for their money.
Not a good option for first car IMO. You'll damage it. Everybody crashes eventually. Better off crashing an EK or an EG - something easily fixed.
Type R's (and Integras generally) also cost more to insure comprehensively (if you can get insurance on it at all). They carry a 'vehicle excess' extra of about $500 due to the amount of idiots that crash them.
To be honest, a first car should be something fairly slow and cheap so that you can "learn" how to drive..
my opinion get a EG/EK, drive around for awhile, then buy a b16/b18 and drop it in.
DC2R wouldnt be that bad as a first car imo. Its not powerful and a stock one is fairly easy to drive. As long as you drive responsibly, i wouldn't worry too much about getting pulled over etc. Insurance might be abit high for p platers tho but if you like an r and the funds isnt restricting you, i say why not? :P
Both of these statements are just so absolutely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by RSKEbaby
But cannot engine swaps :/ I know what you mean though, i know P-platers are the furthest from being perfect drivers.
Why will i get pulled up every 1/4 mile? Cops up here are downers, the only thing that matters to them is more cylinders, they would see someone in a modded teg and just go back to RBT'ing the 400000 falcadores up here >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
my opinion is if you want a type R and can afford it as your first car then do it....
i did and have never looked back...
why buy something shit and waste your time with it when you know your going to get one eventually anyway....
ps i bought my type R myself (no help from mummy and daddy) when i was on myy red P's a the only times i have been pulled over by the cops is when i was doing something dumb which is like twice in the past 3 years.. so i wouldnt worry about getting pulled over too much.
True, not everybody has a crash , I mean they would not give you your p's if they think your going to crash in the first place. If you can afford a type-r get it , it's a great car with a decent package from factory. Why waste your money on a civic which your not going to engine swap and probably waste money on mods.
Everybody has a crash sooner or later. It's just a matter of time.
I did 123 hours of legitimate practise and still managed to crash. The crash wasn't entirely my fault (circumstancial) but it was deemed my fault and my car still got written off.
So do what I did. Drive a cheap and affordable care (I had an '86 Corolla carby sedan) and later bought a '94 Civic Sedan VTi and also a JDM CRX SiR for a weekend car now that I'm older, earning more money, and a better driver.
You WILL crash eventually.
just get the del slow, learn to drive and upgrade to something better. on your P's you'll probably have a ding here or there and it's much cheaper to fix a EG or EK like previously mentioned.
also i wouldn't be dailying a Type R. thieves love to debadge them or if they know what they're doing, take the whole car, joy ride, crash and then steal your seats which is usually enough to write off the car.
i'd be leaving my R safely at home while i daily in something much much slower.
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Originally Posted by michaelz
So true. This is why I drive a daily D-series Civic and have a JDM CRX for a weekender.
Yeah i probs will just get a del slow :3... Make that shit legit!
Del Sol isn't a slow car compared to the other options you're considering. They go quite well.
i love your vote of confidence dougie :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
Is 123 hours supposed to be a lot? hahah i did 600 on my Ls and i still drove like shit. Raise the requirements to 1000 imo...Quote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
lol fk it just stop giving kids licences while your at it.. :) but serz 600... how long were you on you L's.?? like 4 years.?Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
Oh well... lot of people i know who faked their logbook hours ended up totalling a car anyway. Learnt their lesson in the end. Can't even drive in a straight line or turn a corner without mounting the rear wheel but somehow passed their test.
I was on my Ls for 1.5 years lol i just drove to/from school and everywhere else. Easy hours!
All of the older members agree that it's better to start on a slower, cheaper car.
You may really want a faster car now, but when you want to move out or travel, it just might happen that you wish you weren't paying for insurance/fuel/expensive servicing/repairs/sports tyres/replacing stolen seats...
You come to love your first car no matter what it is.
I think it's kind of ignorant to say someone will crash no matter what The people I know when I and them were fresh red platers never had a crash except for one guy but an old lady ran a red and smashed into him so not his fault.
Just get what ever car you like if your confident that your a good driver, otherwise get a sh1tbox like most said.
Why does 'not a Type R' automatically mean 'a shitbox'?
People should learn to appreciate lesser cars.
So because you will eventually crash sooner or later, we should keep driving shit boxes until we do?
1K hours?! I Honestly don't think anyone's parents would like that at all.. Hell, mine complained about 100. D:Quote:
Is 123 hours supposed to be a lot? hahah i did 600 on my Ls and i still drove like shit. Raise the requirements to 1000 imo...
Do I really have to refer to that thread of that Type R Teg wrapped aound a pole with a dead passenger? I did 400 hrs on my L's with defensive driver training and I still reckon I could've learned more before I'm on the public roads. Having a powerful car as 1st car with a P plate and claim you'll always drive sensibly.. Yeah right.
You can speed in any car, its not like these Hyundai excels suddenly cut its engine once it reaches 70ks
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by THEEYA
^Not everyone loves their first car... i was over mine after 2 months. However if it was to be sold/written off i might feel a speck of sadness. It's just been a learning process about cars and the modifying scene. My teggie is simply a guinea pig
Same here. My first car cost 600 bucks. LPG powered Sigma love wagon ooo yea. Saved me lots of money and 3 accidents (2 at faults) later I learnt to slow the **** down. Never needed repairing since it was such a tank. Passed it on for $450 and looking back best purchase ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
Money you save not repairing or doing stupid mods on your 1st car will go towards a nice 2nd or even 3rd car.
rink pureez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
I mean, you love your first car, because its a car... Like, it would suck getting on your p's with no car to drive... Even if you end with a hyundai you will still love the fact that you have a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
If I had any money when I got my licence I would have probably bought an eg/ek daily, played around with it then bought the R a year or so later. When you are more in tune with the road and can easily afford it..
Not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by CivicEGSI
A friend of mine did the whole "buy a shitbox for your first car" thing, bought an early 90's corolla and hates every second of it. He even got excited when he thought it was stolen. He's now looking to sell it and buy a civic.
Also engine swaps are legal for P platers as long as the engine was offered from the factory. e.g swapping out a CA18DE for SR20DE in 180SX or D16Y4 for B16A2 in an EK - however with the engine swap all other parts need to be fitted with it too (rear disc brakes with the upgrade to B16A2 etc). Mod plates with engine modification codes is what we're not allowed. Which means a mod plate for say a bucket seat is actually allowed.
For all these people saying "YOU WILL CRASH" - don't let them dictate you on what to buy - crashes happen yeah, but just driving style has a shit load more to do with it than with what car. I'm a p plater and the only crash I've had wasn't my fault but an open licensee's fault - and nowadays L platers/P platers generally know more about road rules than most people on their opens.
Buy something cheap, and reliable - I'd go with the EK4 as it's newer than the del sol and it'll be cheaper to buy/run/insure than the teg.
but u did technically crashed :P
The guy ran up the back of me at a set of lights... all I could do was sit there.
Would he rather be walking? Thats one reason i think everyone loves when they get a first car :3Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuzaki
Of course not, but the point I was trying to make was that he doesn't love it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubstein
You don't love your first car, you love being able to drive your first car.
^^ Owell, i'm pretty happy with my teg. (Picking it up next weeked)
Who wouldn't be happy with a teg.. ha. Good luck with it
I got a dc2 teggy for myself as a first car, haven't looked back.. Beenf fairly reliable also looks good/turns heads. What else do you want on your ps?
IMO you always love your first car, even if sometimes you don't realise until it's been written off.
If this happened to me in my EF8 I'd have a lot of trouble getting it repaired no matter who is paying. Better off with a cheap first car. The stats don't lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuzaki
It probably would be better off getting a hyundai or something, to learn to drive, but its not like im a terrible driver. I know accidents happen, but i guess i'll learn my lesson ;)
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...ords=&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965322 4294965105 443 900&SearchAction=N&silo=1011&PriceTo=443&seot=1&ts rc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=18&__sid=1308E34369F0
What You guys think about this?
Cheap price for a VTIR comes with a few "lol mods" which is alright I guess. You'll get it cheaper than asking price if you pay cash.
If you're really genuinely interested definitely definitely get a pre purchase inspection done.
^yuck... sorry lol but that's some ugly shit. Besides the fact that it's green, those seats, wipers, exhaust and tail lights wreck it.
surprised a vti-r has made it to 216k km considering they all get raped up by vtec fanboys
and wtf is "MEG WHEELS" "BROOM BROOM MUFFLER" "MINZA SPORT SEATS" and "HIPS OF REGO" hahahaa
High kms.
It's gonna be fkn hard to find a nice vtir dc2 with <200,000kms for <7k.
Put in some extra money and get this:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...2435&silo=1011
lmfao @ megwheels and minza seats
i want a broom broom muffler!! :(
HIPS of rego LOL.
In all honesty though, $5k is pretty cheap and it might be worth a inspection. Assuming it's ok mechanically, de-rice the thing and it'll be a ok car.
thats pretty good facelift vtir for 5k you can easily de-rice that thing,
.. lol charliebrown you sound a bit butthurt with your vtec fanboy comment.
A type R xDQuote:
Originally Posted by tegzy
Much, much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuzaki
Buy this, or don't bother.
5K is awfully cheap yo. Seriously, a car is something you don't want to cheap out on. If you choose to go the cheap way and buy a car that's in pretty poor condition because simply for its low price you're asking for trouble. Also you can learn a lot about a car and its owner by the way the ad has been written. Dude selling the car sounds like an idiot... Personally I wouldn't waste my time, especially with the amount of K's on it.
Realistically, save a bit more money or get a Civic or CRX. Or you could get a GSI and eventually build a B20 Vtec or turbo if you're interested.
I got my Gsi for 2.7K :D Good buy i might say myself !
theres a delsol on jdmst for 7k ono with mods and b16a. check it out
Go for a Del Sol.
You wont see many of them around.
Pretty sure the member VT3C still has his up for sale. Check his sale thread out ---> CRX DEL SOL
I just got myself a Del Sol after owning an EG5. Best decision ever!
5 seats are overrated.
Needs to be in Queensland :/Quote:
Originally Posted by EG5VTI
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Originally Posted by CivicEGSI
i asked myself the same question afew months ago too! same shoes as you. had 7k and wanted a dohc vtec. i narrowed it down and for 6-7 you wont get a decent teggy, either thrashed or high km or rolled back km etc. del sol 2 seats was inconvenient for me so i ended up getting a ek4. i love the thing, i wouldn't mind the extra bit of torque from the teggy but cant complain for 6k.
Hahahaha yeah i know the 5k teg was shit, but it was cheap and in qld, and as long as the engine was ok, would be good.