Honda Civic B18C type r conversion

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14-01-2006, 12:05 AM
dc2itr

Honda Civic B18C type r conversion

Thinking about droppin a B18C Integra Type R engine into a Honda Civic, EK or EG.

Trajedy struck a couple of weeks back when some fool crashed into my integra :( . There is now one less Type R on the road guys. :( :( Luckily the front half (the vauable half) is fine and the idiots at the insurance company had no idea what the engine was worth. :) Deciding to sell it back to me for a measly 1K. :) :) Slightly offended, I accepted their offer. So.....

Wanna know what you think? EG or EK? Leaning towards EG at the moment because of the diff in price!

I am planning to transplant almost all the dc2r goodies, including diff, gearbox, drive train etc.

Any advice? Rough costs, things to look out for, ideas?

DC2R
Ex - Integra Type R Owner
14-01-2006, 12:25 AM
kOncept

Sorry to hear about the car man...

personally i'd go with the EG, I've always preferred the shape of EG downsides are the older looking interior and that's about it as far as I can see.
14-01-2006, 12:57 AM
krasyvy

yeh go for the eg...

more of a sleeper..

speak to samo on these forums, or even ecu-man

they have both done b18c conversions

in terms of costs - wateva u cant use from that half cut u will have to buy

how are the driveshafts?

also do u know the condition of the engine in terms of services?

small costs like seals and fluids u might want to change which all add up.

good luck with the swap - take heaps of pictures so we can all see

:)
14-01-2006, 01:03 AM
[[d a n n y]]

dude of course he knows the condition of his engine..

oh btw EG mate EG all the way
14-01-2006, 01:04 AM
krasyvy

oh lol

my bad - i thought u were hit by a type r and were buying his engine...

hahah
14-01-2006, 01:09 AM
barefootbonzai

Get an EK so you can be slower
14-01-2006, 07:06 AM
faijai

EK bro there's like 2 ppl on this thread has got now in the Ek's
14-01-2006, 07:25 AM
|N|

i would put it in an EK ... EG has been done to death ... but the only EK that i knw with b18c is quite slow for some reason
14-01-2006, 07:49 AM
2MPRSS

EG is more sex then EK so EG
14-01-2006, 10:40 AM
Lukezen27

There’s no comparison!!!!!!!!!!

The EG it without a doubt the sexist Civic ever made straight off the showroom floor
Sexy curves and bends, interior’s lacking a bit but you can’t have everything

The EK is the complete opposite, one of the most boring Civics ever made IMO
Lost all its Sexy curves

Just my opinion

LukeZen
14-01-2006, 10:57 AM
barefootbonzai

On second thoughts, get an EG for sure!
14-01-2006, 04:51 PM
xtercii

I'd say EK, newer and better chassis, not much of a weight difference and I prefer ek's shape...
14-01-2006, 04:57 PM
[[d a n n y]]

actually there is quite a differnce in wieght.

about 150KG
14-01-2006, 04:59 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

actually there is quite a differnce in wieght.

about 150KG

EG ligher right Danny?
14-01-2006, 05:02 PM
KB

Id get some hasport mounts and drop it in an EF
14-01-2006, 05:02 PM
[[d a n n y]]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

EG ligher right Danny?

indeed
14-01-2006, 05:10 PM
EGB16A

Quote:

Originally Posted by kOncept

Sorry to hear about the car man...

personally i'd go with the EG, I've always preferred the shape of EG downsides are the older looking interior and that's about it as far as I can see.

nothing a dc2r dash and recaro's can't fix :D
14-01-2006, 05:31 PM
xtercii

Quote:

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

actually there is quite a differnce in wieght.

about 150KG

definitely not 150kg, 98 model ek gli is 1009kg, surely eg can't be 850kg, the weight difference would be around 30kg according to the redbook.
14-01-2006, 05:34 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtercii

definitely not 150kg, 98 model ek gli is 1009kg, surely eg can't be 850kg, the weight difference would be around 30kg according to the redbook.

redbook's clueless

Have 92-95 Honda Civic VTI as a DOHC :p
14-01-2006, 05:44 PM
|N|

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtercii

definitely not 150kg, 98 model ek gli is 1009kg, surely eg can't be 850kg, the weight difference would be around 30kg according to the redbook.

EK weight more then that... more like 1100 mark ... neva trust redbook
14-01-2006, 05:46 PM
[[d a n n y]]

well we have a watedump just around the corner of my work that's got a weight bridge.
and my car wieght 925KG with 20kg's of cardoboard in the back.
and i am sure. EK's are much heaiver
i remeber on a thread here while a go soem 1 saying there EK weighs 1100kg+
14-01-2006, 05:53 PM
|N|

Quote:

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

well we have a watedump just around the corner of my work that's got a weight bridge.
and my car wieght 925KG with 20kg's of cardoboard in the back.
and i am sure. EK's are much heaiver
i remeber on a thread here while a go soem 1 saying there EK weighs 1100kg+

yes indeed danny ... EM1 weight 1140kg and EK sedan weight 1144 kg if i m not wrong... hatchies from memery do not weight a lot less.... probably just over 1100
14-01-2006, 06:03 PM
xtercii

em1 weighs 1114kg according to motor magazine and redbook, dont' really know about ek4 tho...
on my rego papler, which is a 97ek gli hatch, it says 1009, same as the redbook...so guess all the info is pretty legit
14-01-2006, 06:06 PM
[[d a n n y]]

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtercii

em1 weighs 1114kg according to motor magazine and redbook, dont' really know about ek4 tho...
on my rego papler, which is a 97ek gli hatch, it says 1009, same as the redbook...so guess all the info is pretty legit

rego papers are often incorrect mate

for example my rego paper says sedan for a EG3 hatch back.
14-01-2006, 06:16 PM
.::F[L]Y::.

EG would be much more fun!! Esp with dc2r gearbox.... :)

just make sure you get a Efi EG to save yourself the trouble of converting from carbie to efi.

if i was to get an EK then k20a in it for sure
14-01-2006, 06:17 PM
|N|

Quote:

Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.

EG would be much more fun!! Esp with dc2r gearbox.... :)

just make sure you get a Efi EG to save yourself the trouble of converting from carbie to efi.

if i was to get an EK then k20a in it for sure

but k20 cost too much ... not many ppl wants to be as hardcore as me
14-01-2006, 08:59 PM
dc2itr

made the decision

Still mourning at the moment.....

**Hey tried putting some pics up for u's to c. but it says I've exceeeded my quota by 225.1kb. Each pic is only 226kb. what's the deal? neva tried this b4...help**

Yep...Decided EG. Sorry to all the EK guys. But its cheaper, lighter and......looks betta (me thinks)!!!

Hey, so how much harder is it to convert from Carby? I thought only the SI model EG came with SOHC 1.6 litre???? The VTI model is still carby isn't it??? Will prob look for an SI anyway, hate rear drums.

And how come everyone does conversion with the EG hatches and not the sedans. Personally, I like the look of the sedans but I have yet to see one with a conversion. Is the only reason cause they weigh bout 40kg more or is there more to the story?
14-01-2006, 09:12 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc2itr

Still mourning at the moment.....

**Hey tried putting some pics up for u's to c. but it says I've exceeeded my quota by 225.1kb. Each pic is only 226kb. what's the deal? neva tried this b4...help**

Yep...Decided EG. Sorry to all the EK guys. But its cheaper, lighter and......looks betta (me thinks)!!!

Hey, so how much harder is it to convert from Carby? I thought only the SI model EG came with SOHC 1.6 litre???? The VTI model is still carby isn't it??? Will prob look for an SI anyway, hate rear drums.

And how come everyone does conversion with the EG hatches and not the sedans. Personally, I like the look of the sedans but I have yet to see one with a conversion. Is the only reason cause they weigh bout 40kg more or is there more to the story?

Get the GLI mate

All power opts and EFI :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

VTi Carby!!! HELL no, VTec engine without ELI lol

*bennjamin edit* Dont preach what you dont know :D
14-01-2006, 10:13 PM
ctr kid

advice? yeah sell the wreck to me for 2K lol... go the ek.. and shave the rear wiper off! jdm style...
14-01-2006, 10:28 PM
sivic

just to clear up:
Si is not carby. its EFI (DOHC Non VTEC D16A8)
Both Si and Vti come with rear discs. Gli has rear drums.
as far as conversions go there is no diff between hatches and sedan.
so you could go a Gli, as it would be cheaper and still has EFI and all electrics, then a do rear disc conversion or go a Si or Vti if you cant be stuffed doing rear disc conversion
14-01-2006, 10:36 PM
Lukezen27

I thought AUS ZC where Cardy lol

Guess I was wrong :o

Learn learn
14-01-2006, 11:11 PM
ECU-MAN

Dude

this is whats involved

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30312

is the rear trailing arms and disks ok on the wreck as you could fit them to a GLI to make it 4w disk
15-01-2006, 01:38 PM
barefootbonzai

yeah, my rego papers say my hatchback is a sedan, and it's a Civiv not Civic.
15-01-2006, 05:33 PM
dc2itr

thanks ECU-MAN. Good guide to what's involved.

I swear my mate has a VTI EG Civic with rear drums.....maybe I'm wrong....

not sure about the condition of everything. Have only had a brief look. When I get the car back I will have to check everything out.

Hey any1 in Canberra know any1 gd to do the conversion for me?

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